Official WRX Gear Trials Event Thread: Results are in and Data live- Page 27

[Medic]

I am still knocking the snot out of my Z and love it. I have tinkered a bit with the settings, something Brian didn't do a lot of. Interesting results when, for fun, I put my BC plus bag in the bag with the loft jacked up. It was almost as long as the Z and felt really good. Just not quite as tight in dispersion.

I am also seeing drastic differences now that it is hot. My swing speed is probably closer to 95 now and the weight of the Z allows it to flow through the swing. Would love to do a trackman session now. Summer Gear Trials might make for better season results based on how I am hitting it now. Cannot help but wonder how the cold, the layers of clothes, and the wind all affected our results.

[Peanut191]

Cannot help but wonder how the cold, the layers of clothes, and the wind all affected our results.

Definitely cost you guys an average of 50 yards each.

 

....Just kidding :happy:

 

Seriously, though. It would be cool if you guys could update us on how you are doing with your new, fitted drivers now that the weather is getting warmer.

[300_Straight]

Great reviews! Glad everything is liking their new sticks (for the most part). I'm still wondering how Ball Speed numbers changed so much with different Drivers. My numbers seem to barely move between clubs.

[3_Jack_Par]

Cannot help but wonder how the cold, the layers of clothes, and the wind all affected our results.

There's nothing I've done since the GT that would have caused me to pick up 5 mph in clubhead speed. I've been really busy at work, and haven't been playing or practicing much. I'm just about as fat as I was then, and haven't started doing yoga or anything, and I haven't made any mechanical changes to speak of. Even before I got my swing fixed yesterday, my earlier swings during the session were the same speed. I think the extra layers definitely affected our flexibility and knocked a few mph off our numbers. But I don't think that really affected the results of the testing in any material way.

[Medic]

Cannot help but wonder how the cold, the layers of clothes, and the wind all affected our results.

There's nothing I've done since the GT that would have caused me to pick up 5 mph in clubhead speed. I've been really busy at work, and haven't been playing or practicing much. I'm just about as fat as I was then, and haven't started doing yoga or anything, and I haven't made any mechanical changes to speak of. Even before I got my swing fixed yesterday, my earlier swings during the session were the same speed. I think the extra layers definitely affected our flexibility and knocked a few mph off our numbers. But I don't think that really affected the results of the testing in any material way.

 

Believe it or not - ready for this.

 

I have been doing a little stretching and yoga. (Don't LOL fellas!) And have lost a little weight. I was up to around 208 and am now back down to 200. Just took my annual FF physical and did more this year than last so I must be onto something. But I am also hitting the ball past where I was - a long way past. I tend to play the same courses a lot of when I am getting onto a par 5 in two that I NEVER even considered before, something just feels right. : )

 

About the only thing I can't manage with my Z is a little fade. You guys who saw my swing can understand - I just can't control anything I am intentionally trying to send right. But other than that, this driver has been an amazing addition.

 

How did I lose a little weight? I started walking a little more. And have actually worked on field units a couple of times - that will put some miles on your shoes. Felt good to get my hands in again. So in the end, between the lack of layers of clothing (this Florida boy had three layers on!), and some conditioning added to an amazing driver, I have really seen some amazing results.

[jefftomahawk]

Final driver for season (subject to change) Taylor Made M1 460 9.5 w/ Mits. Rayon Kuro Kage tini 60 s flex at 45.25 inches playing length

The M1 was my gold selection, but money made me go the M2 route earlier this season, The M1 proved to be lower spinning and the needed adjustments that can be made. Happy so far.

[300_Straight]

Yoga is a great thing, especially when it comes to Golf. Anything that can make you more flexible (especially your back which Downward Dog helps, as well as other stretches) and improve mobility is a plus and should not be taken lightly. Some people may make fun of guys doing Yoga, but it's great for both physical and mental health. I have an outing Saturday and have been on / off Yoga for the past couple months. I am going to do it every day this week in preparation. No shame here, Yoga it up!

[GC70]

Yoga is a great thing, especially when it comes to Golf. Anything that can make you more flexible (especially your back which Downward Dog helps, as well as other stretches) and improve mobility is a plus and should not be taken lightly. Some people may make fun of guys doing Yoga, but it's great for both physical and mental health. I have an outing Saturday and have been on / off Yoga for the past couple months. I am going to do it every day this week in preparation. No shame here, Yoga it up!

Plus the scenery is nice! ;)

[IL2AZ]

Yoga is a great thing, especially when it comes to Golf. Anything that can make you more flexible (especially your back which Downward Dog helps, as well as other stretches) and improve mobility is a plus and should not be taken lightly. Some people may make fun of guys doing Yoga, but it's great for both physical and mental health. I have an outing Saturday and have been on / off Yoga for the past couple months. I am going to do it every day this week in preparation. No shame here, Yoga it up!

Plus the scenery is nice! ;)

 

Yoga is the one class in which there are numerous benefits to being in the back row...

[hayzooos]

It's been in the works for quite some time, but mine is about to be here, I'm hoping this week. It's been hard waiting this long, but it's gonna be AWESOME when it comes through. I've only played 27 holes so far this year which is an absolute atrocity as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure there are guys around here who have played more holes than that today alone :(.

 

I'll update my WITB with the new stick as soon as it arrives, and I'll link it in this thread if anyone is still keeping up with it.

 

It's going to be an LTD Pro with an Agera shaft in it, but if all goes according to plan, it'll look different than your average bear.

[ladahl]

Gear Trial gear heads- anyway all those that participated can start a running list of what's currently in the bag?

 

Pics would be great too

[hayzooos]

Gear Trial gear heads- anyway all those that participated can start a running list of what's currently in the bag?

 

Pics would be great too

 

Just got mine yesterday, and literally JUST updated my WITB w/ the driver (http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/957665-hayzooos-witb-20160604-matte-ltd-pro-is-here/page__st__150#entry13695878)

[Stuart_G]

Gear Trial gear heads- anyway all those that participated can start a running list of what's currently in the bag?

 

Pics would be great too

 

Sorry no pics, but still got the new Ping G in the bag. Only change since the last post I made was with the shaft - went from the Rogue black to the Rip Phenom to drop the shaft weight down a bit.

[Boricua Golf]

Well my WITB is the same as my signature, the newer changes I did is put into play is the Callaway X Utility Prototype (had it laying around in the house and re-shafted it with the AD DI 105x from the hybrid) and I am now playing the X Hot Pro driver head (I normally switch between that and the RFX head) it has been really nice, consistent and long...

[knudson81]

Gear Trial gear heads- anyway all those that participated can start a running list of what's currently in the bag?

 

Pics would be great too

 

I am still rocking the LTD but have moved on from the HZRDUS Black back to the XPHLEXXX Agera. Combo has been really good so far, little less fade biased than the HZRDUS

[G-Bone]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

[ladahl]

Callaway Sub Zero AD GP-7X Black

 

 

and it has been a great move. Very happy with this combo

[jefftomahawk]

3 weeks from last post, Still Taylor Made M1 9.5 460 w/Mitsu. Rayon Kuro Kage tini 60 s, head set at 8.5 degrees,

drove the ball the best this past Saturday, Best round in 20 years, 5 birds with 7 bogies, and the rest pars

[3_Jack_Par]

I have the driver that should have been my winner based on the data in the bag now. Ping G LS Tec 9* (not digitally lofted, so who know if that's accurate), set to the lowest loft setting. Aldila Rogue Silver 110 MSI 70x, playing at 44.5".

I have a 125 MSI Rogue 70TX that I'm going to try as soon as I have a chance to pull the adapter on it and install a Ping one. I'm hoping it might give me a little more anti-left bias. If that doesn't work out, I have another 110 MSI Rogue (tip broke on one and got a warranty replacement after already buying a new one because I needed it quickly), so I might tip that and put it in to see if that gets me where I want to be.

Overall, I'm really happy with it. It's longer than the G30 LS I played last year, and it seems more forgiving.

[300_Straight]

So now that the Callaway Sub Zero is out, is there gonna be another test? # 1 signup right here!

 

:)

[swizbeatz]

I've been using both the G and LTD, my two "winners". Probably a 5-1 ratio at least towards the G and I haven't come close to putting the LTD in for a competitive round, it's still longer good for good but it's hard to go back and forth from Ping to something else because of the shape IMO. I like the G better than last years gamer G30.

[IL2AZ]

Going back and forth with the M1 and Cobra LTd Pro with differing shafts which isn't helping the decision making process. Want to like the LTD and it's added forgiveness but it seems a little more fade biased. I'm coming from a 07 Burner TP that I hit for 9 years so the M1 graphics are a little similar and it seems more intuitive to hit the high draw with. Both the M1 and LTD are outstanding drivers, I think they both feel great with the carbon crowns which create a more solid feel IMO. Has anyone found a significant forgiveness difference between the two or is the 300 points of MOI difference negligible in the real world?

[Brooks_Cupcake]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

[G-Bone]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

 

Thank you for the feedback. Here are the facts, directly from Ping engineer - Ping hot melts each the G LS driver about 5-8 grams before shipping and fortunately they now allow a customer to request hot melt location, therefore swing weight doesn't change but CG does. I am confident and comfortable with this decision after a long discussion with Pings metal wood engineer. We will see once the new head arrives.

 

Even if it's just a placebo, I'll take it!

[hayzooos]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

 

Thank you for the feedback. Here are the facts, directly from Ping engineer - Ping hot melts each the G LS driver about 5-8 grams before shipping and fortunately they now allow a customer to request hot melt location, therefore swing weight doesn't change but CG does. I am confident and comfortable with this decision after a long discussion with Pings metal wood engineer. We will see once the new head arrives.

 

Even if it's just a placebo, I'll take it!

 

I'm a Wishon fan, and I know where he's coming from. The weight itself (in that little of an amount) will not change the ball flight, that's true. However, I do think that much will change the way you hit the club, maybe slightly slower rotation, whatever. 5-8g is enough to make a difference I believe. Again, if a robot is swinging, there will be no change, but we're not robots, we play with feel and adding 8g in one location will almost certainly affect how you swing the club.

[cota0429]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

 

Thank you for the feedback. Here are the facts, directly from Ping engineer - Ping hot melts each the G LS driver about 5-8 grams before shipping and fortunately they now allow a customer to request hot melt location, therefore swing weight doesn't change but CG does. I am confident and comfortable with this decision after a long discussion with Pings metal wood engineer. We will see once the new head arrives.

 

Even if it's just a placebo, I'll take it!

 

I'm a Wishon fan, and I know where he's coming from. The weight itself (in that little of an amount) will not change the ball flight, that's true. However, I do think that much will change the way you hit the club, maybe slightly slower rotation, whatever. 5-8g is enough to make a difference I believe. Again, if a robot is swinging, there will be no change, but we're not robots, we play with feel and adding 8g in one location will almost certainly affect how you swing the club.

 

That in turn also changes the way the shaft reacts. Which for next years gear trials I would love to see head weights and nominal lofts which have an impact on spin.

[G-Bone]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

 

Thank you for the feedback. Here are the facts, directly from Ping engineer - Ping hot melts each the G LS driver about 5-8 grams before shipping and fortunately they now allow a customer to request hot melt location, therefore swing weight doesn't change but CG does. I am confident and comfortable with this decision after a long discussion with Pings metal wood engineer. We will see once the new head arrives.

 

Even if it's just a placebo, I'll take it!

 

I'm a Wishon fan, and I know where he's coming from. The weight itself (in that little of an amount) will not change the ball flight, that's true. However, I do think that much will change the way you hit the club, maybe slightly slower rotation, whatever. 5-8g is enough to make a difference I believe. Again, if a robot is swinging, there will be no change, but we're not robots, we play with feel and adding 8g in one location will almost certainly affect how you swing the club.

 

Also keep in mind Ping already add 5-8 grams to every G LS, so now we have moved 5-8 grams from one spot to another, effectively a net 10-16 gram difference.... That will certainly effect CoG and ball flight.

 

New driver went in play yesterday. Sound is incredibly different/better and so far ball flight seems to be substantially different. Will report back after a few rounds and range sessions.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

I am still gaming my "winner" - Ping G LS Tec with DI6.

 

However, do to a swing adjustment that is helping my handicap drop like a rock, I need driver with slightly less fade bias. Therefore, I just ordered a new G LS head hot melted in the heel. Hoping to peel 10-15 yard fade back to 5-10 yard fade. (Yes, we all know I have a sickness!). Head will be here next week, I will update on experiment.

 

Any hot melt added will not move your CoG whatsoever unless you want your driver to be completely unplayable at a ridiculous swing-weight. Ask Mr. Wishon, he will confirm this statement....

 

Thank you for the feedback. Here are the facts, directly from Ping engineer - Ping hot melts each the G LS driver about 5-8 grams before shipping and fortunately they now allow a customer to request hot melt location, therefore swing weight doesn't change but CG does. I am confident and comfortable with this decision after a long discussion with Pings metal wood engineer. We will see once the new head arrives.

 

Even if it's just a placebo, I'll take it!

 

I'm a Wishon fan, and I know where he's coming from. The weight itself (in that little of an amount) will not change the ball flight, that's true. However, I do think that much will change the way you hit the club, maybe slightly slower rotation, whatever. 5-8g is enough to make a difference I believe. Again, if a robot is swinging, there will be no change, but we're not robots, we play with feel and adding 8g in one location will almost certainly affect how you swing the club.

 

Also keep in mind Ping already add 5-8 grams to every G LS, so now we have moved 5-8 grams from one spot to another, effectively a net 10-16 gram difference.... That will certainly effect CoG and ball flight.

 

New driver went in play yesterday. Sound is incredibly different/better and so far ball flight seems to be substantially different. Will report back after a few rounds and range sessions.

 

Only by the weight of the back port, not by hot melting.

 

Congrats on the new sound though!

[G-Bone]

 

 

Only by the weight of the back port, not by hot melting.

 

Congrats on the new sound though!

 

As I mentioned above, Ping engineer explained to us that every G LS gets hot melt (Giloo to be more accurate). However, now Ping gives the customer the option to have it added to a specific location, which is what we did. This is over and above the weight port. Hope that explains it a little better.

 

Yes, the new sound is sweet, thank you!

[3_Jack_Par]

Played my first round with the 125 MSI Rogue yesterday, and I think it's probably going to be the one I play going forward. It seems like it gives me a little help keeping the really bad ones from going too far left (I did snap one, but there's no shaft in the world that helps the all arms, overdone flip with the hands swing from being really bad), and it's definitely no problem to turn it over. it's at least as long as the 110 Rogue and t has a little smoother feel, but that's splitting hairs. I'll be keeping the 110 for a while at least as a backup, but I think the 125 is the gamer. Besides, what kind of WRXer would I be if I had a chance to play a tour issue shaft and went with retail instead?