Clubhouse Grille (*** NO LIV DISCUSSIONS ***) (*** NO POLITICS/RELIGION ***)

[scomac2002]

I've gone back and forth on posting about this today as I was in the wrong.  That said, usually there's a reason behind a person's actions other than pure cussedness.  But, in this day and age, that doesn't seem to matter and recriminations flow...

 

AS you have gathered by now I was the recipient of some COVID rage earlier today.  I was in a local grocery store that I don't normally go to.  I only had a few things to pick up and I was there because the kitty litter was on sale.

 

I sanitized before I enter the store as per request and then head to the produce department.  Took me a while to sleuth out the romaine lettuce.  I usually buy heads in a package.  After a bit of time I spot them and dig them out from behind some other packaged lettuce.  Both packages were a week over their best before date so I put them back.  I continue to look at some other options.  Obviously I'm not going to get what I'm looking for.

 

When I settle on a fresh head and am struggling to get the produce bag to separate with my dried out sanitized hands this generation Xer in her leggings and neon hair loses it.  She proceeds to dress me down for touching every package in the display and contaminating them with my germs when the sign clearly states that don't touch if you don't intend to buy.  She threatens to call the manager to which I thought; let's do that because I had a thing or two to say to the manager.  Needless to say I was taken aback, but I had to concede that she did have a point.

 

I never responded to her, just looked at her with a certain amount of disbelief.  I didn't think of it at the time, but I seem to recall that I saw her full face as she was talking down to me which means that she didn't have her mask on, but maybe I misremembered.  I think my silence only aggravated her even more as she stormed off to the bakery as I continued on my way.

 

I have said it before and I'll say it again.  It's not the virus that going to be the real tragedy of this pandemic; it's how we treat one another, especially strangers.  Pretty clear that the trend is we're all enemies now... 😟

[NoTalentLefty]

5 hours ago, Qqq123xx said:

Keeps reposting my previous post. So lets try this and see if it works. 

I was weaned on Molson. Never hardly drank commercial beers like Spudweiser etc. Just about always some type of Molson, Labatts or Tuborg. Never Moosehead always gave me serious gas. 

Started my drinking at 17 with Little King Ale. Moved to PBR, in the seventies it was considered top shelf for us. Never understood why. Then on to Budweiser then Bud Lite. Now, I don’t drink beer , but did start Jameson and Ginger Ale for about 10 years, well let say the first two then straight up Jameson. Now I drink margaritas and rum drinks that a taste more like Hawaiian Punch than alcohol. They’re dangerous if you don’t stop. Tequila and rum make me braver than I should be. I was built like a lover not a fighter when young, now built like a trash can.

[NoTalentLefty]

5 hours ago, Qqq123xx said:

Keeps reposting my previous post. So lets try this and see if it works. 

I was weaned on Molson. Never hardly drank commercial beers like Spudweiser etc. Just about always some type of Molson, Labatts or Tuborg. Never Moosehead always gave me serious gas. 

Started my drinking at 17 with Little King Ale. Moved to PBR, in the seventies it was considered top shelf for us. Never understood why. Then on to Budweiser then Bud Lite. Now, I don’t drink beer , but did start Jameson and Ginger Ale for about 10 years, well let say the first two then straight up Jameson. Now I drink margaritas and rum drinks that a taste more like Hawaiian Punch than alcohol. They’re dangerous if you don’t stop. Tequila and rum make me braver than I should be. I was built like a lover not a fighter when young, now built like a trash can.

[NoTalentLefty]

5 hours ago, Qqq123xx said:

Keeps reposting my previous post. So lets try this and see if it works. 

I was weaned on Molson. Never hardly drank commercial beers like Spudweiser etc. Just about always some type of Molson, Labatts or Tuborg. Never Moosehead always gave me serious gas. 

Started my drinking at 17 with Little King Ale. Moved to PBR, in the seventies it was considered top shelf for us. Never understood why. Then on to Budweiser then Bud Lite. Now, I don’t drink beer , but did start Jameson and Ginger Ale for about 10 years, well let say the first two then straight up Jameson. Now I drink margaritas and rum drinks that a taste more like Hawaiian Punch than alcohol. They’re dangerous if you don’t stop. Tequila and rum make me braver than I should be. I was built like a lover not a fighter when young, now built like a trash can.

[Qqq123xx]

Even though they're the same, it was an honor getting three (3) posts from you NTL. 

[BIG STU]

15 hours ago, scomac2002 said:

I've gone back and forth on posting about this today as I was in the wrong.  That said, usually there's a reason behind a person's actions other than pure cussedness.  But, in this day and age, that doesn't seem to matter and recriminations flow...

 

AS you have gathered by now I was the recipient of some COVID rage earlier today.  I was in a local grocery store that I don't normally go to.  I only had a few things to pick up and I was there because the kitty litter was on sale.

 

I sanitized before I enter the store as per request and then head to the produce department.  Took me a while to sleuth out the romaine lettuce.  I usually buy heads in a package.  After a bit of time I spot them and dig them out from behind some other packaged lettuce.  Both packages were a week over their best before date so I put them back.  I continue to look at some other options.  Obviously I'm not going to get what I'm looking for.

 

When I settle on a fresh head and am struggling to get the produce bag to separate with my dried out sanitized hands this generation Xer in her leggings and neon hair loses it.  She proceeds to dress me down for touching every package in the display and contaminating them with my germs when the sign clearly states that don't touch if you don't intend to buy.  She threatens to call the manager to which I thought; let's do that because I had a thing or two to say to the manager.  Needless to say I was taken aback, but I had to concede that she did have a point.

 

I never responded to her, just looked at her with a certain amount of disbelief.  I didn't think of it at the time, but I seem to recall that I saw her full face as she was talking down to me which means that she didn't have her mask on, but maybe I misremembered.  I think my silence only aggravated her even more as she stormed off to the bakery as I continued on my way.

 

I have said it before and I'll say it again.  It's not the virus that going to be the real tragedy of this pandemic; it's how we treat one another, especially strangers.  Pretty clear that the trend is we're all enemies now... 😟

Me I do not take anyones crap--- I would given her one of my looks which the wife says will melt plate steel and then basically told her to **** off. 

[Fellaheen51]

19 minutes ago, Qqq123xx said:

Even though they're the same, it was an honor getting three (3) posts from you NTL. 

 

NTL reputation gathering (NTTAWWT).  Since we distribute them like confetti, I'll oblige.  Shoulda had two more of same in order to run the table of reps.  

[scomac2002]

4 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

Me I do not take anyones crap--- I would given her one of my looks which the wife says will melt plate steel and then basically told her to **** off. 

 

I've been involved in a few too many confrontational exchanges this year with all but this one occurring at the golf course while I was working.  It gets a bit old after a while.

 

By nature I'm not an aggressive person.  I don't enjoy confrontation.  If there's one thing I have learned over the years is that it's better to attempt to diffuse the situation rather than escalate things.  If that's not possible, then you just walk away which really seems to piss off someone who's looking for a fight.

 

AS far as this woman was concerned she was rude and demeaning.  I suspect that this has been difficult for her these past months most likely with young children and being fed this constant barrage of fear mongering from public health officials.  In her mind it's people like me that spread the disease when in fact that's not what the evidence points to.  Her unmasked rebuke was far more dangerous especially when she was intent on getting right up in my grill, so I turned away from her.

 

I'm sure she told someone.  I can have a rational conversation with an employee not some irate customer.  A few moments later an employee asked if I needed assistance in finding anything to which I declined.  I gathered my items headed to the self checkout and left the store.

 

The simple solution is to not shop at this particular store again.  I wonder how many other folks will be convinced of the same?  Needless to say, I'm not feeling particularly charitable when it comes to my local community at this moment.  There have been other instances that left a bad taste in my mouth.  I've done my best to support local merchants, but when I can order whatever I want hassle free online and have it delivered or travel further afield and get what I want without incident the locals are going to end up being the losers.  C'est la vie...😕

[BIG STU]

20 hours ago, scomac2002 said:

 

I've been involved in a few too many confrontational exchanges this year with all but this one occurring at the golf course while I was working.  It gets a bit old after a while.

 

By nature I'm not an aggressive person.  I don't enjoy confrontation.  If there's one thing I have learned over the years is that it's better to attempt to diffuse the situation rather than escalate things.  If that's not possible, then you just walk away which really seems to piss off someone who's looking for a fight.

 

AS far as this woman was concerned she was rude and demeaning.  I suspect that this has been difficult for her these past months most likely with young children and being fed this constant barrage of fear mongering from public health officials.  In her mind it's people like me that spread the disease when in fact that's not what the evidence points to.  Her unmasked rebuke was far more dangerous especially when she was intent on getting right up in my grill, so I turned away from her.

 

I'm sure she told someone.  I can have a rational conversation with an employee not some irate customer.  A few moments later an employee asked if I needed assistance in finding anything to which I declined.  I gathered my items headed to the self checkout and left the store.

 

The simple solution is to not shop at this particular store again.  I wonder how many other folks will be convinced of the same?  Needless to say, I'm not feeling particularly charitable when it comes to my local community at this moment.  There have been other instances that left a bad taste in my mouth.  I've done my best to support local merchants, but when I can order whatever I want hassle free online and have it delivered or travel further afield and get what I want without incident the locals are going to end up being the losers.  C'est la vie...😕

Like you we are trying to support local businesses. But service what is left of it has went to hell in a handbasket. And sorta to defend them no one wants to work any more. Restaurants and stores are begging for help here local and chain businesses alike.

[NoTalentLefty]

Covid has had an odd effect on the psyche on people. To those who won’t where mask, to outright deniers , to calm, to unleashed fury at the slightest transgression. Its effects on people may be as bad as the actual disease itself. 
 

[NoTalentLefty]

Now on to happier things. Golf in 54 degree weather yesterday, golfing today in the 80s. Central Illinois living, taking the good with the bad.

[scomac2002]

56 minutes ago, NoTalentLefty said:

Now on to happier things. Golf in 54 degree weather yesterday, golfing today in the 80s. Central Illinois living, taking the good with the bad.

 

Agreed.  I was thinking last night that I sure know how to throw cold water on things.

 

Rain all day up here in the peninsula.  I even got off early as we had a grand total of 7 customers between opening and 10:30 am.  I have a tee time booked with my son for Saturday am at another course.  Hopefully the weather will be decent.  It has been three years since I played with him. 😕

[scomac2002]

4 hours ago, BIG STU said:

Like you we are trying to support local businesses. But service what is left of it has went to hell in a handbasket. And sorta to defend them no one wants to work any more. Restaurants and stores are begging for help here local and chain businesses alike.

 

No one wanting to work is a big one.  I was reading an article either last night or this morning that said income had gone up during the pandemic due to gov't handouts despite all the closures and high unemployment rates.  I was at the dentist yesterday for a procedure and the assistant asked if I had travelled or gone camping this summer.  I responded that my camping days were long ago in the rearview mirror.  She then told me that it seemed like 1 in 3 patients had purchased a camper or travel trailer this summer.  My thought was that is pretty nice when you can pull that off on the gov't dime.  Next thing you know truck sales will be up! 🙄

[scotee]

Peddling fast to keep up.

 

I like pretty women.

 

I like breakfast.

 

I like a wide variety of music.

 

I avoid confrontation but will protect myself and family.

 

My golf game has just enough good days to keep me from quitting, (I find myself reliving my glory days)

 

Never had the pleasure? of garlic ice cream. (Must have been Gilroy Calif.)

 

Prefer good coffee and juice to alcohol.

 

We had a great summer and fall but this week it’s goodbye garden and hello frost delays.

 

 

[Conrad1953]

2 hours ago, scotee said:

Peddling fast to keep up.

 

I like pretty women.

 

I like breakfast.

 

I like a wide variety of music.

 

I avoid confrontation but will protect myself and family.

 

My golf game has just enough good days to keep me from quitting, (I find myself reliving my glory days)

 

Never had the pleasure? of garlic ice cream. (Must have been Gilroy Calif.)

 

Prefer good coffee and juice to alcohol.

 

We had a great summer and fall but this week it’s goodbye garden and hello frost delays.

 

 

 

Wow, that's cold. I remember sitting in Cheyenne, WY for 2 days in early October one year waiting

for I-80 to be re-opened after a big snow storm. Winter comes early in the mountainous west. I know

you get those warming Chinook winds up there from time to time in the cold season so....I hope you

get some soon so you can get back out on the course in warmer weather.

 

And yes...........................the Garlic Festival in Gilroy....,,,,just one of many NoCal food festivals held

every year.  I was working in San Jose when I was living in Gilroy and every day on my way home

from work as I entered the Gilroy city limits the aroma was like driving into a giant Italian restaurant;

during the garlic harvest season.

[Conrad1953]

I almost feel guilty posting this....................almost

 

Tallassee, AL

 

OCTOBER 22 - NOVEMBER 2

THU10/22

82° /67°

FRI10/23

80° /66°

SAT10/24

78° /64°

SUN10/25

81° /64°

MON10/26

83° /64°

TUE10/27

83° /65°

WED10/28

77° /59°

THU10/29

75° /62°

FRI10/30

75° /53°

SAT10/31

72° /52°

SUN11/1

73° /51°

MON11/2

71° /52°

 

 

[NoTalentLefty]

3 hours ago, scotee said:

Peddling fast to keep up.

 

I like pretty women.

 

I like breakfast.

 

I like a wide variety of music.

 

I avoid confrontation but will protect myself and family.

 

My golf game has just enough good days to keep me from quitting, (I find myself reliving my glory days)

 

Never had the pleasure? of garlic ice cream. (Must have been Gilroy Calif.)

 

Prefer good coffee and juice to alcohol.

 

We had a great summer and fall but this week it’s goodbye garden and hello frost delays.

 

 

You like them ugly too. 

[scotee]

15 minutes ago, Conrad1953 said:

I almost feel guilty posting this....................almost

 

Tallassee, AL

 

OCTOBER 22 - NOVEMBER 2

THU10/22

82° /67°

FRI10/23

80° /66°

SAT10/24

78° /64°

SUN10/25

81° /64°

MON10/26

83° /64°

TUE10/27

83° /65°

WED10/28

77° /59°

THU10/29

75° /62°

FRI10/30

75° /53°

SAT10/31

72° /52°

SUN11/1

73° /51°

MON11/2

71° /52°

 

 

Yeah, yeah, rub it in.

[miamistomp]

Miami, FL

Mostly Cloudy81

[tolmij]

We used to have several internet providers, some of them shared infrastructure, others had their own. Then came along the government with a brilliant idea, lets give everyone a fast reliable internet service, so they implemented the national broadband network. 

All other services were then on notice, they could still have customers because the NBN authority would not deal direct with the public, they did a compulsory purchase order on all infrastructure, then had super duper stuff made to make it quicker. 

The idea was to connect every single house and business in Australia to the NBN, this was around seven years ago and some still do not have any internet. The system cost the taxpayer billions of dollars and in not one tenth as efficient as the old systems they have replaced. When it was eventually connected it was compulsory to change to it, a notice was sent to the house instructing you to do it within a week or lose internet. 

So we went through the providers, trying several until we found one that was reliable, but never mind the provider who rented the data management off the NBN, the problem now was the infrastructure suddenly became fragile, where the old system had cables buried deep, the new system had them  close to the surface so many of them were cut by builders and workers going through their normal day, also the equipment they used was not reliable and was not installed by competent technicians, these second rate people are paid an enormous amount of money. Several cables were not suitable for the purpose they were used, installation was shoddy, connections were not completed, so all in all it was and still is utter rubbish.

We have now been out of internet for nearly a week, as you can see we have back, son working from home has had to use his phone to keep working, fortunately this has been fast enough to complete his programming.

The system.
We are without internet, we phone provider who checks their systems, no fault so they contact NBN help desk, no reported outages so we will investigate, send message to NBN head office, they now contact a contractor who will then eventually contact us and come out to investigate, this  bit takes 5 days and could be much longer if major repairs are required.

One of the original providers from way back are now installing their own cables and are going to compete with the NBN, they will obviously be competative as the NBN goes through so many hands giving them all a good pay day.

Rant over, internet back on, plenty to catch up on.

[tolmij]

The new Air conditioning is well and truly fitted, Two day job Wednesday and Thursday, Five tradesmen thumping around in our roof cavity ripping stuff out and putting all the new gear in place.

We were impressed with how they worked, their attitude and respect for our private space even though they required full access to all parts of the house. We knew they would be here along time, started at 6am and worked through to 4pm . We made our second toilet available exclusively to them and stocked our garage fridge with coconut water to help them rehydrate in the heat. They commented how unusual it was for customers to even admit they existed, but this was no different from when I was working as a farrier, the customers would sit under a tree with a cold drink holding the horse away from them and I would be shoeing in the heat. 

The new system is far better than we could ever imagine, the old one was incorrectly installed and was very noisy because the vents were too small. This system cools each room individually temperature  is the same for each room but air flow can be set individually, later we will install a device in some rooms that require individual temperature control.

To make it easy the main control is an android tablet fixed to the wall, we also have an ap on our iPads and the google home device in our kitchen uses voice control to set it. So now we are set up for the summer just around the corner.

[NoTalentLefty]

9 hours ago, tolmij said:

We used to have several internet providers, some of them shared infrastructure, others had their own. Then came along the government with a brilliant idea, lets give everyone a fast reliable internet service, so they implemented the national broadband network. 

All other services were then on notice, they could still have customers because the NBN authority would not deal direct with the public, they did a compulsory purchase order on all infrastructure, then had super duper stuff made to make it quicker. 

The idea was to connect every single house and business in Australia to the NBN, this was around seven years ago and some still do not have any internet. The system cost the taxpayer billions of dollars and in not one tenth as efficient as the old systems they have replaced. When it was eventually connected it was compulsory to change to it, a notice was sent to the house instructing you to do it within a week or lose internet. 

So we went through the providers, trying several until we found one that was reliable, but never mind the provider who rented the data management off the NBN, the problem now was the infrastructure suddenly became fragile, where the old system had cables buried deep, the new system had them  close to the surface so many of them were cut by builders and workers going through their normal day, also the equipment they used was not reliable and was not installed by competent technicians, these second rate people are paid an enormous amount of money. Several cables were not suitable for the purpose they were used, installation was shoddy, connections were not completed, so all in all it was and still is utter rubbish.

We have now been out of internet for nearly a week, as you can see we have back, son working from home has had to use his phone to keep working, fortunately this has been fast enough to complete his programming.

The system.
We are without internet, we phone provider who checks their systems, no fault so they contact NBN help desk, no reported outages so we will investigate, send message to NBN head office, they now contact a contractor who will then eventually contact us and come out to investigate, this  bit takes 5 days and could be much longer if major repairs are required.

One of the original providers from way back are now installing their own cables and are going to compete with the NBN, they will obviously be competative as the NBN goes through so many hands giving them all a good pay day.

Rant over, internet back on, plenty to catch up on.

Government at its finest. I was at a conference in 2010 on IT dealing with Security and Networking. The speaker had the medicine balls to say Big Government good , big Business bad. There were a few chuckles from the crowd.

[scomac2002]

55 minutes ago, tolmij said:

...So now we are set up for the summer just around the corner.

 

There's a sense of dismay on my part when I hear you say those words @tolmij.  For us that means that snow is not far off now and soon I will be saying my seasonal goodbyes to all my friends and coworkers at the golf course.  It has been a difficult year and yet I find that I'm truly sad that the end is near.😢

 

We were setting up our curling club registrations this morning and seeing which teams we are on and what the schedule looks like heading into the Christmas season.  We are going out west to see the kids come heck or high water in one month's time, so we're going to have to see about getting some spares to take our places for a couple of weeks.

[NoTalentLefty]

Clubs are getting cleaned up today and put away for the year. Summary for the year. Started on the senior tees due to hip replacement last year, moved to the men tees after two rounds , then last two rounds moved back to senior due to recent procedure.  Truth is I scored better on men’s tee. Oh well. Lowered my hcp by 3 playing mostly once a week. Putting woes this year was scattered out in rounds. Can’t find the hole yesterday if more than 3 foot away. Now trying to get healthier for next year. 

[miamistomp]

Yes! Beverly

 

[miamistomp]

 I wish New York City still looked as good as it did in black and white

[tolmij]

10 hours ago, scomac2002 said:

 

There's a sense of dismay on my part when I hear you say those words @tolmij.  For us that means that snow is not far off now and soon I will be saying my seasonal goodbyes to all my friends and coworkers at the golf course.  It has been a difficult year and yet I find that I'm truly sad that the end is near.😢

 

We were setting up our curling club registrations this morning and seeing which teams we are on and what the schedule looks like heading into the Christmas season.  We are going out west to see the kids come heck or high water in one month's time, so we're going to have to see about getting some spares to take our places for a couple of weeks.

When we decided to move to Australia, we looked at the summer and winter conditions, this determined where we would live. Subtropics gave usthe best year round conditions, warm  to cool winters, always dry, hot wet summers humid but better than the alternatives. Year round outside activities including golf, course never closes, that is incorrect because three years ago we had torential rain and the course flooded, first time in ten years and it was only two days as the waterways through the course drained it all away.

 

always disliked the snow when we lived in England, we are not cold weather people.🥶

Edited October 24, 2020 by tolmij

[Conrad1953]

We sometimes talk about the shot we hit that keeps us coming back to this crazy game. I hit one

of those the other day. The hole was a dogleg left par 4  that beckons you to cut the corner in

order to get a shorter shot into the green. I hit my drive a little too far left and wound up with

some trees between me and the green.

 

I only had 92 yards to the pin but had to keep the ball low and through about a 10 foot wide

window about 20 yards in front of me. I grabbed a 7 iron and set up with the ball a little back in

my stance and tried to just punch the ball through the opening and get it somewhere around

the green......hit and hope.

 

I actually hit the ball a little too hard and it rose up and clipped a few leaves but got though.

That turned out to be a good break as the leaves slowed the ball just enough that it sort of

floated onto the green and rolled up to the hole for a tap in birdie. About 10% skill, 90% luck

but I'll take it! 

[scomac2002]

Just got home from playing with #1 son.  This is the first time since 2016 I believe, although he says that we have played since then.  It's also the first round of 18 on a regulation course that I have played in 3 years.

 

WE played at Chedoke Golf Club which is an old heritage course that was originally opened about 1898 I think with 9 holes.  It's a 36 hole muni now belonging to the city (where my son lives).  WE headed out this morning at 9:30 at 7°C, so it was cold.  Fortunately there was little in the way of wind and it was dry, although pretty greasy from heavy overnight rains.

 

The Martin course is par 70 (37/33) and 5800 yards with a 3400/2400 split.  Man was that front nine long!  I had a rough stretch of holes from 2-6 going +14 on those holes.  The back was considerably better playing it at bogie except for two holes.  Ended up with an even 100.  First time I had a score like that that I was proud of.  Had I putted a bit better mid 90's would have been in the cards.  Only lost one ball too.  I guess that's one of the advantages of being a short knocker. 🤣

 

What I did discover is that the long game comes around when you're continually hitting driver off the tee and fairway woods on approach.  My overall game would improve if I played a full length course regularly I'm sure.

 

I heard earlier this summer that the Chedoke courses are for sale.  I wanted to play there one last time should they end up coming under the developers shovel in the name of more condominium housing  with easy access to green space.  The rail trail system runs along the course so you meet up with hikers, dog walkers and cyclists over the course of a round.

[Conrad1953]

1 hour ago, scomac2002 said:

Just got home from playing with #1 son.  This is the first time since 2016 I believe, although he says that we have played since then.  It's also the first round of 18 on a regulation course that I have played in 3 years.

 

WE played at Chedoke Golf Club which is an old heritage course that was originally opened about 1898 I think with 9 holes.  It's a 36 hole muni now belonging to the city (where my son lives).  WE headed out this morning at 9:30 at 7°C, so it was cold.  Fortunately there was little in the way of wind and it was dry, although pretty greasy from heavy overnight rains.

 

The Martin course is par 70 (37/33) and 5800 yards with a 3400/2400 split.  Man was that front nine long!  I had a rough stretch of holes from 2-6 going +14 on those holes.  The back was considerably better playing it at bogie except for two holes.  Ended up with an even 100.  First time I had a score like that that I was proud of.  Had I putted a bit better mid 90's would have been in the cards.  Only lost one ball too.  I guess that's one of the advantages of being a short knocker. 🤣

 

What I did discover is that the long game comes around when you're continually hitting driver off the tee and fairway woods on approach.  My overall game would improve if I played a full length course regularly I'm sure.

 

I heard earlier this summer that the Chedoke courses are for sale.  I wanted to play there one last time should they end up coming under the developers shovel in the name of more condominium housing  with easy access to green space.  The rail trail system runs along the course so you meet up with hikers, dog walkers and cyclists over the course of a round.

 

Wow, 1000 yards is a big difference in 9s from the same tee box. 3400 is pretty long for us 

older guys for sure. I guess there's a good reason the course is set up that way; there usually is.