2016 US Open Discussion Thread

[dlygrisse]

7-under in the last 7 holes. unbelievable on those greens!

 

make that -8 for the last 8

 

Look out! Johnny Millers legacy may be in jeopardy.

[Sixcat]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

[peachfuzz]

This has probably been said already, but I haven't been able to watch much coverage this weekend until today.I

 

I'm loving that "hawkeye" thing they're doing on the greens. Exactly like the EA golf games of the past decade, and it works great for real life.

[dlygrisse]

Hey Richard. Were those ditches always along the fairways or were those added when the trees pulled out? Also if they were there were the trees outside the ditches?

[jmck]

Sky Sports just interviewed Andrew Landry. Yuuuugge Duval vibe again. Definitely not just the shades.

[carn9698]

Koepka just oozes talent. Best young American by a mile.

[toddnt]

"Hold the door".... Really. ASSHAT!

[bscinstnct]

Hold the door!

[jmck]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

Fine with me, though in fairness Miller's 63 was to win it. Koepka could shoot 58 and it'd still take a train wreck for him to win it. Still though, it's only a matter of time before someone cracks 63 in a major, might as well be Koepka today. Dude's out of his mind right now.

[Sixcat]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

Fine with me, though in fairness Miller's 63 was to win it. Koepka could shoot 58 and it'd still take a train wreck for him to win it. Still though, it's only a matter of time before someone cracks 63 in a major, might as well be Koepka today. Dude's out of his mind right now.

 

If Koepka does, I'm sure we will hear all about how it doesn't rise to Miller's level at the Open next month.

[dlygrisse]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

Fine with me, though in fairness Miller's 63 was to win it. Koepka could shoot 58 and it'd still take a train wreck for him to win it. Still though, it's only a matter of time before someone cracks 63 in a major, might as well be Koepka today. Dude's out of his mind right now.

 

I don't know if he can keep his head straight or not but he legitimately has a chance to shoot in the 50's if he keeps focused.

[PGArox]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

I guess it's worth posting all the 63's in major championship history.

 

Masters (2)

 

Nick Price, 1986, third round (9-under)

Greg Norman, 1996, first round (9-under)

 

U.S. Open (4)

 

Johnny Miller, 1973 (Oakmont CC), final round (8-under)*

Jack Nicklaus, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)*

Tom Weiskopf, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)

Vijay Singh, 2003 (Olympia Fields CC), second round (7-under)

 

The Open Championship (8)

 

Mark Hayes, 1977 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)

Isao Aoki, 1980 (Muirfield), third round (8-under)

Greg Norman, 1986 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)*

Paul Broadhurst, 1990 (St. Andrews), third round (9-under)

Jodie Mudd, 1991 (Birkdale), final round (7-under)

Nick Faldo, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Payne Stewart, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Rory McIlroy, 2010 (St. Andrews), first round (9-under)

 

PGA Championship (13)

 

Bruce Crampton, 1975 (Firestone GC), second round (7-under)

Raymond Floyd, 1982 (Southern Hills CC), first round (7-under)*

Gary Player, 1984 (Shoal Creek), second round (9-under)

Vijay Singh, 1993 (Inverness Club), second round (8-under)

Michael Bradley, 1995 (Riviera CC), first round (8-under)

Brad Faxon, 1995 (Riviera CC), final round (8-under)

Jose Maria Olazabal, 2000 (Valhalla GC), third round (9-under)

Mark O’Meara, 2001 (Atlanta Athletic Club), second round (7-under)

Thomas Bjorn, 2005 (Baltusrol CC), third round (7-under)

Tiger Woods, 2007 (Southern Hills CC), second round (7-under)*

Steve Stricker, 2011 (Atlanta Athletic Club), first round (7-under)

Jason Dufner, 2013 (Oak Hill CC), second round (7-under)*

Hiroshi Iwata, 2015 (Whistling Straits), second round (9-under)

 

*Went on to win

[Anonymosity]

Koepka just oozes talent. Best young American by a mile.

 

Jordan Spieth thinks that's a bold take.

[jmck]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

Fine with me, though in fairness Miller's 63 was to win it. Koepka could shoot 58 and it'd still take a train wreck for him to win it. Still though, it's only a matter of time before someone cracks 63 in a major, might as well be Koepka today. Dude's out of his mind right now.

 

I don't know if he can keep his head straight or not but he legitimately has a chance to shoot in the 50's if he keeps focused.

 

(I know).....ssshhhhh.....

 

Let's not talk about it any more. Like a perfect game in baseball--just leave the man alone on the bench.

[Roadking2003]

Wait a second....

 

A Guy ranked 40th on the face of this earth is an "average Joe??????"

 

A guy ranked 110 is a "below average Joe???"

 

I Frickin love this place!!!

 

Fairways & Greens My Friends,

RP

 

The context is PGA Tour players. Not all golfers.

 

Is this to imply PGA Tour players are somehow not a fair representation of the greatest players in the world?

 

Lowry chooses to play mostly in Europe. After all, he is Irish. That formula worked pretty well for Seve.

 

When Ernie Els won the 1994 US Open at Oakmont, he had one worldwide win, a European Tour event. I think things worked out pretty well for him.

 

When Jack Nicklaus won the 1962 US Open at Oakmont, he had zero professional wins. I guess he was an "average Joe".

 

You missed the point. Among tour players we have above average, average and below average. It really is a simple concept. Regardless of what the group is, you can't label everyone "above average". Some in any group have to be below average.

 

Many "average Joes" become above average. That's another really simple concept.

 

At age 29, three wins is nothing special. That's why I call it average. That's not to say that he will not have a spectacular career winning majors and 15 tournaments. He probably will. But today, it's just three.

 

At age 29, Nicklaus had 30 wins, so no, he was not average.

[PGArox]

What an unbelievable driver of the ball Dustin Johnson is.

[Roadking2003]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Me too. That would cause lots of excitement. But then the USGA would have to lower par again.

[jmck]

Wait a second....

 

A Guy ranked 40th on the face of this earth is an "average Joe??????"

 

A guy ranked 110 is a "below average Joe???"

 

I Frickin love this place!!!

 

Fairways & Greens My Friends,

RP

 

The context is PGA Tour players. Not all golfers.

 

Is this to imply PGA Tour players are somehow not a fair representation of the greatest players in the world?

 

Lowry chooses to play mostly in Europe. After all, he is Irish. That formula worked pretty well for Seve.

 

When Ernie Els won the 1994 US Open at Oakmont, he had one worldwide win, a European Tour event. I think things worked out pretty well for him.

 

When Jack Nicklaus won the 1962 US Open at Oakmont, he had zero professional wins. I guess he was an "average Joe".

 

You missed the point. Among tour players we have above average, average and below average. It really is a simple concept. Regardless of what the group is, you can't label everyone "above average". Some in any group have to be below average.

 

Many "average Joes" become above average. That's another really simple concept.

 

At age 29, three wins is nothing special. That's why I call it average. That's not to say that he will not have a spectacular career winning majors and 15 tournaments. He probably will. But today, it's just three.

 

At age 29, Nicklaus had 30 wins, so no, he was not average.

 

You're missing the point that calling Shane Lowry an "average Joe" is a dumb, ignorant thing to say.

[Golfnutgalen]

I approve "hold the door", hard not to for a GOT reference.

[DavePelz4]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

I guess it's worth posting all the 63's in major championship history.

 

Masters (2)

 

Nick Price, 1986, third round (9-under)

Greg Norman, 1996, first round (9-under)

 

U.S. Open (4)

 

Johnny Miller, 1973 (Oakmont CC), final round (8-under)*

Jack Nicklaus, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)*

Tom Weiskopf, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)

Vijay Singh, 2003 (Olympia Fields CC), second round (7-under)

 

The Open Championship (8)

 

Mark Hayes, 1977 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)

Isao Aoki, 1980 (Muirfield), third round (8-under)

Greg Norman, 1986 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)*

Paul Broadhurst, 1990 (St. Andrews), third round (9-under)

Jodie Mudd, 1991 (Birkdale), final round (7-under)

Nick Faldo, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Payne Stewart, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Rory McIlroy, 2010 (St. Andrews), first round (9-under)

 

PGA Championship (13)

 

Bruce Crampton, 1975 (Firestone GC), second round (7-under)

Raymond Floyd, 1982 (Southern Hills CC), first round (7-under)*

Gary Player, 1984 (Shoal Creek), second round (9-under)

Vijay Singh, 1993 (Inverness Club), second round (8-under)

Michael Bradley, 1995 (Riviera CC), first round (8-under)

Brad Faxon, 1995 (Riviera CC), final round (8-under)

Jose Maria Olazabal, 2000 (Valhalla GC), third round (9-under)

Mark O’Meara, 2001 (Atlanta Athletic Club), second round (7-under)

Thomas Bjorn, 2005 (Baltusrol CC), third round (7-under)

Tiger Woods, 2007 (Southern Hills CC), second round (7-under)*

Steve Stricker, 2011 (Atlanta Athletic Club), first round (7-under)

Jason Dufner, 2013 (Oak Hill CC), second round (7-under)*

Hiroshi Iwata, 2015 (Whistling Straits), second round (9-under)

 

*Went on to win

 

IIRC, a Korean player shot 61 in an LPGA major a few years back. I know,I know.

[PGArox]

Koepka just oozes talent. Best young American by a mile.

 

Jordan Spieth thinks that's a bold take.

 

Yeah, last time I checked Brooks has never won five times in one year, including two majors, and was Player of the Year and world #1. Absurd statement.

[bscinstnct]

I approve "hold the door", hard not to for a GOT reference.

 

Next up

 

http://youtu.be/spljhhpdg4s

 

 

 

 

[Christen_The_Sloop]

Much of the visual aspect of links courses is lost on TV. The raw beauty of a links or links-style course only hits you in person as your brain takes in the entire panorama. An example is cresting the hill on #3 on Old Mac at Bandon. There isn't a tree to be seen, just a moonscape. Very cool.

 

Much of the visual aspect of Holly's backside is lost on TV. The raw beauty of large backsides only hits you in person as your brain takes in the entire panorama. An example is just about any backside, especially Jennifer Lopez's. There isn't a flaw to be seen, just a moonscape. Very cool.

 

Just woke up and I read your post a little different....

 

Here in J-pan we don't get to see the thing, so all I have is my imagination...

[Sixcat]

Wait a second....

 

A Guy ranked 40th on the face of this earth is an "average Joe??????"

 

A guy ranked 110 is a "below average Joe???"

 

I Frickin love this place!!!

 

Fairways & Greens My Friends,

RP

 

The context is PGA Tour players. Not all golfers.

 

Is this to imply PGA Tour players are somehow not a fair representation of the greatest players in the world?

 

Lowry chooses to play mostly in Europe. After all, he is Irish. That formula worked pretty well for Seve.

 

When Ernie Els won the 1994 US Open at Oakmont, he had one worldwide win, a European Tour event. I think things worked out pretty well for him.

 

When Jack Nicklaus won the 1962 US Open at Oakmont, he had zero professional wins. I guess he was an "average Joe".

 

You missed the point. Among tour players we have above average, average and below average. It really is a simple concept. Regardless of what the group is, you can't label everyone "above average". Some in any group have to be below average.

 

Many "average Joes" become above average. That's another really simple concept.

 

At age 29, three wins is nothing special. That's why I call it average. That's not to say that he will not have a spectacular career winning majors and 15 tournaments. He probably will. But today, it's just three.

 

At age 29, Nicklaus had 30 wins, so no, he was not average.

 

Not sure how to respond. I can't stress how much I disagree with your assessment.

 

Els had one worldwide win when he won the 1994 US Open. Bubba Watson didn't win his first tournament at any level until he was nearly 32. This too is a really simple concept.

 

Whatever your profession, you didn't enter it with the ability you had after 5 or 10 years of experience. Yet another really simple concept!

[DavePelz4]

Landry had a lot of twitching going on before that first swing.

[PGArox]

I'd love to see Koepka post a 62.

 

Imagine Johnny Miller would s*** 3 bricks if he did!

 

I guess it's worth posting all the 63's in major championship history.

 

Masters (2)

 

Nick Price, 1986, third round (9-under)

Greg Norman, 1996, first round (9-under)

 

U.S. Open (4)

 

Johnny Miller, 1973 (Oakmont CC), final round (8-under)*

Jack Nicklaus, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)*

Tom Weiskopf, 1980 (Baltusrol CC), first round (7-under)

Vijay Singh, 2003 (Olympia Fields CC), second round (7-under)

 

The Open Championship (8)

 

Mark Hayes, 1977 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)

Isao Aoki, 1980 (Muirfield), third round (8-under)

Greg Norman, 1986 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)*

Paul Broadhurst, 1990 (St. Andrews), third round (9-under)

Jodie Mudd, 1991 (Birkdale), final round (7-under)

Nick Faldo, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Payne Stewart, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)

Rory McIlroy, 2010 (St. Andrews), first round (9-under)

 

PGA Championship (13)

 

Bruce Crampton, 1975 (Firestone GC), second round (7-under)

Raymond Floyd, 1982 (Southern Hills CC), first round (7-under)*

Gary Player, 1984 (Shoal Creek), second round (9-under)

Vijay Singh, 1993 (Inverness Club), second round (8-under)

Michael Bradley, 1995 (Riviera CC), first round (8-under)

Brad Faxon, 1995 (Riviera CC), final round (8-under)

Jose Maria Olazabal, 2000 (Valhalla GC), third round (9-under)

Mark O’Meara, 2001 (Atlanta Athletic Club), second round (7-under)

Thomas Bjorn, 2005 (Baltusrol CC), third round (7-under)

Tiger Woods, 2007 (Southern Hills CC), second round (7-under)*

Steve Stricker, 2011 (Atlanta Athletic Club), first round (7-under)

Jason Dufner, 2013 (Oak Hill CC), second round (7-under)*

Hiroshi Iwata, 2015 (Whistling Straits), second round (9-under)

 

*Went on to win

 

IIRC, a Korean player shot 61 in an LPGA major a few years back. I know,I know.

 

How ya doin', Gary?

 

I'll let you in on a little secret, but you have to promise not to tell anyone. Women don't have majors. :)

[buckeyefl]

41st in the world, qualifies for the most elite events in the world and he's average joe. I think you may be blinded by the same 8 or do names you see all of the time on coverage and in commercials because only in crazy 350 yard 7 iron golfers land is he average

 

That's the point. Everyone on the course today is very very good. Some are above average, some are below. But a 3 time winner among those out there is an average (US OPEN qualifier) joe.

 

Obviously it's quite subjective, but to me the top 25 are above average, the 26 - 100 are average joes and above that are below average PGA Tour Joes.

 

No he's really not and it's really not that subjective. As I tried to say nicely before, you are delusional if you think he's average joe.

[Roadking2003]

How ya doin', Gary?

 

I'll let you in on a little secret, but you have to promise not to tell anyone. Women don't have majors. :)

 

Last time I checked they have five every year. When did that change?

[dlygrisse]

Wait a second....

 

A Guy ranked 40th on the face of this earth is an "average Joe??????"

 

A guy ranked 110 is a "below average Joe???"

 

I Frickin love this place!!!

 

Fairways & Greens My Friends,

RP

 

The context is PGA Tour players. Not all golfers.

 

Is this to imply PGA Tour players are somehow not a fair representation of the greatest players in the world?

 

Lowry chooses to play mostly in Europe. After all, he is Irish. That formula worked pretty well for Seve.

 

When Ernie Els won the 1994 US Open at Oakmont, he had one worldwide win, a European Tour event. I think things worked out pretty well for him.

 

When Jack Nicklaus won the 1962 US Open at Oakmont, he had zero professional wins. I guess he was an "average Joe".

 

You missed the point. Among tour players we have above average, average and below average. It really is a simple concept. Regardless of what the group is, you can't label everyone "above average". Some in any group have to be below average.

 

Many "average Joes" become above average. That's another really simple concept.

 

At age 29, three wins is nothing special. That's why I call it average. That's not to say that he will not have a spectacular career winning majors and 15 tournaments. He probably will. But today, it's just three.

 

At age 29, Nicklaus had 30 wins, so no, he was not average.

 

Not sure how to respond. I can't stress how much I disagree with your assessment.

 

Els had one worldwide win when he won the 1994 US Open. Bubba Watson didn't win his first tournament at any level until he was nearly 32. This too is a really simple concept.

 

Whatever your profession, you didn't enter it with the ability you had after 5 or 10 years of experience. Yet another really simple concept!

 

I believe Ben Hogan was 33 years old when he won his first major. Hogan is without a doubt one of the 5 best players that ever lived.

[Matt J]

Koepka just oozes talent. Best young American by a mile.

 

Jordan Spieth thinks that's a bold take.

 

Yeah, last time I checked Brooks has never won five times in one year, including two majors, and was Player of the Year and world #1. Absurd statement.

 

Maybe Carn finds Koepka's talent largely untapped. Everyone has commented that Spieth has a lot of maturity for his age, so his mental game is one of his strengths. Doesn't mean Brooks could find his rhythm and put up a season like Spieth's. Not an "absurd" concept IMO.

 

Some of you guys get awfully defensive about a bunch of strangers. I dunno, maybe Jordan's your cousin or something !?!