JP Wedges are back

[Markboots]

I could see $2k for 3 or $2500 for 4 wedges if....

The faces could be replaced. All those pieces put together and they can't offer you the option to replace the face?

 

I think that's searching for a value add that would make this financially justifiable to the common consumer like you or me. Thing is, this is a luxury good, and luxury goods by their nature are not financially justifiable. There is no financial reason to spend $500 on a Burberry or Louis Vuitton wallet, it won't hold your money any differently than a $20 wallet. Sure the quality of materials may be better, and some may argue that makes a difference as far as value is concerned, but the actual results will be minimal.

 

The people who can actually afford these won't care about the price of replacement wedges, another $2000 on wedges is like a trip to McDonald's to them.

 

If you're trying to justify this financially here's the thing. You can do a regular titleist wedge fitting at any of their fitting centres for I think $100-$150, you have a full slate of vokey bounce and grind options from the stock sm6 offerings, so you can get the same level of performance as you can in these wedges for $700, and then when you need replacement wedges it's just the price of a wedge because you know your specs.

 

These JP wedges are offering a cool experience and some unique clubs, that's what you're paying for. While there may be a performance benefit as well you can get the same benefit for a third of the price.

 

I could not agree more with this post. Just seems there is a lot of anger around the price. I was hoping this thread was going to showcase a lot of pictures of JP's old designs and new designs.

 

I lived in NY and now SF and there are simply people with a ton of money (I am not one of them). I have a hard time believing anyone dropping $2K on this experience is assuming they will now be able to turn pro. Just a great experience and a conversation piece with a few new cool wedges. If it shaves off a few strokes on their game than that is an added bonus. Look at how much money people are willing to pay for Superbowl tickets. I am not here to debate the relative value of each experience, just to highlight their is value around each experience that everyone feels differently about.

 

Of course I would like these wedges more affordable but only time will tell if this price point works.

Regards,

Mark

[BWTgolfer]

If and when you have tour players and armatures playing his products as much as Vokey and Cleveland do, let me know. Not saying his wedges are bad or anything, but it's a boutique item for now. Lets wait and see how it performs with the masses.

As far as Wally goes, his job is to make $$$$ for Titleist (or whom ever owns the company) any way he can. SC is doing it for putters, maybe JP will be the next line of wedges for Titleist when Vokey retires....who knows!!!

 

When you have guys like Cleveland and Vokey who have built their reputation during their entire lifetime, I'm thinking that JP has a little learning curve to come up to speed to compete with these guys. Price alone does not guarantee a quality product or a guaranteed swing. Like some other posters have said, you're paying more for the experience than the actual product. The only reservation that I have a the 4 piece design. Looking at the weight and the position where it's placed, I don't think that "forgiveness" will not be it's main qualifier. I bet I can scruff this wedge as well as my Mack Daddy forged.

 

What does JP have to learn specifically from Cleveland or Vokey? Wally Uilein told me to ask....

 

Always felt wedges are the very easiest irons to hit...if you can't hit a Vokey or Mizzie or Callie wedge, what the heck happens with your 7 iron?

Wedge forgiveness seems like a somewhat funny, almost retail marketing concept...then again, JP hasn't seem everyone hit a wedge, so...maybe it's out there and he's just clueless?

 

I always thought 7* Tony Pena persimmons were easy to hit. Guess those metal wood inventors were clueless.....

[whatshannenin]

If and when you have tour players and armatures playing his products as much as Vokey and Cleveland do, let me know. Not saying his wedges are bad or anything, but it's a boutique item for now. Lets wait and see how it performs with the masses.

As far as Wally goes, his job is to make $$$$ for Titleist (or whom ever owns the company) any way he can. SC is doing it for putters, maybe JP will be the next line of wedges for Titleist when Vokey retires....who knows!!!

 

When you have guys like Cleveland and Vokey who have built their reputation during their entire lifetime, I'm thinking that JP has a little learning curve to come up to speed to compete with these guys. Price alone does not guarantee a quality product or a guaranteed swing. Like some other posters have said, you're paying more for the experience than the actual product. The only reservation that I have a the 4 piece design. Looking at the weight and the position where it's placed, I don't think that "forgiveness" will not be it's main qualifier. I bet I can scruff this wedge as well as my Mack Daddy forged.

 

What does JP have to learn specifically from Cleveland or Vokey? Wally Uilein told me to ask....

 

Always felt wedges are the very easiest irons to hit...if you can't hit a Vokey or Mizzie or Callie wedge, what the heck happens with your 7 iron?

Wedge forgiveness seems like a somewhat funny, almost retail marketing concept...then again, JP hasn't seem everyone hit a wedge, so...maybe it's out there and he's just clueless?

 

I always thought 7* Tony Pena persimmons were easy to hit. Guess those metal wood inventors were clueless.....

 

Your second part hit it on the head. Wally had enough faith to sign him in the garage, so that speaks volume of JP's potential. This just released, so not sure how comparing it to 2 guys whom have had wedges on Tour for 20+ years. JP is going about it his own way. He's not trying to be the same as the rest of the mass produced cast or form forged wedges out there. These are for the people wanting the best fitting and performing wedge out there. Tour validation is important to some degree and JP has had several Tour players play his stuff in the past. He hasn't given them the opportunity to come to a fitting and have them built up to try as he's been kind of busy developing and perfecting his product. I have a suspicion there will be some Tour players that want them in the very near future. Although, I'm not sure how their contracts read if they can play a JP wedge if on Titleist....maybe have to play Vokey.

[Sean2]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

Perhaps, but you can pay $400 for a very good bottle of wine...or you can pay $20 for a very good bottle of wine. For some what Titleist is offering may be worth it...just like an executive PXG fitting is worth it to some (2 nights, 3 days -- $15,000). Which is all well and good...enjoy the game as you will and purchase what you like. l

 

I practice my short game incessantly and I can't see how these wedges/fitting would add a "wow!" factor to my short game.

Then your not the target market anyways. Next.

 

*you're

 

Also Sean2 is a class act, if anyone here is entitled to a little bit of respect it's him.

 

Thanks Thrill. :-)

[lilc2334]

My Beauties from years back.. still game them every once and a while..new paint full now. Feels like butter FYI!

 

 

 

[EntourageLife]

PXG wedges putting Vokey into retirement. Zach Johnson plays PXG wedges now.

[BIG STU]

Man oh man at those prices I can not possibly see me playing them especially here. They are beautiful but they would look like crap after a few rounds around here with all the salt and sand. But to each his own

[SPY ZINGER]

Here are some images of my wedges. I included his milled pitch fork and ball mark. Just incredible.

 

 

 

[Yarra]

Here are some images of my wedges. I included his milled pitch fork and ball mark. Just incredible.

 

 

 

 

They are very beautiful. Given the chance, I will definitely get one of those. But I really doubt I would have the heart to play them...

[SPY ZINGER]

Just curious, any one on WRX sign up for a fitting. I know they're booked pretty good this summer already. Are you guys one of them?

[scratchswinger]

Required items for bagging these:

• LV bag
  
• 15+ handicap
  
• Wheels up account
  
• Net worth of 5+ mil
  

[Thrillhouse]

Required items for bagging these:

• LV bag
  
• 15+ handicap
  
• Wheels up account
  
• Net worth of 5+ mil
  

 

I want 3 and 4, 1 and 2 not so much lol.

[Kingcat990]

Thats a lot of moving parts for approach and flop shots.

 

He should make a chipper. Capitalize on all that old guy money

[SadTrombone]

Between PXG and these I can't believe Scratch didn't survive. These are pretty but yikes the price tag.

 

*goes to PNC online to start moving moneys around*

[SwingMan]

I don't play golf with jewelry...

[leojax]

I'm not sure I could practice with them. I'd be too afraid they might get a rock chip.

[SPY ZINGER]

JP is giving away a wedge tomorrow on Instagram, throw your name into the hat:

 

[EaglesGolf99]

JP is giving away a wedge tomorrow on Instagram, throw your name into the hat:

 

 

Bummer. Not an Insta-Guy.

 

Would love to register to win as I am JP too!!

 

He's James Patrick .... And I'm James Patrick! !!

[Jensen]

Anyone else get fitted for a set of these? Been thinking about driving down, going through the process and wanted to see how people liked the wedges.

[bolwin1]

My buddy in DSM is an ambassador. He had four in his bag Saturday when we played. He handed me the high bounce (I normally play low) and it setup perfectly. I hit it once and it was pure butter. They are something else.

 

Pretty sure I’m not paying $2k for as set, but these sole tech, feel and forgiveness are real.

[elwhippy]

I can see them selling in Korea or Russia where bling is everything. I would settle for forged Vokeys with a rusty finish.