JP Wedges are back

[SubaruWRX]

I wonder if there's a different rate for PGA pros?

 

Texsport

Free Fiddy?

[nochct1]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

[BigHook25]

Always amazes me that there are so many people that care what other people spend their money on.

 

WGAF?

 

I don't think its as much that as if its a decent deal or not. It is just a matter of opinion between people who think its great versus people who don't. Only a different matter of opinions and both sides should have a say.

[Muirfield Willie]

Man I could get a set of those and some Lonzo Ball shoes and really feel like a "big-baller". No thanks, my $5 Hogan Special works just fine.

The people who are paying $2,000 for this want something more than just fine.

 

As in something to show off to their dude-bros while they shoot in the 90's and post a vanity handicap?

While they have to play in a group with a "dude bro" like you who judges people based on the clubs they play? What's worse the dude who spends $2000 on the wedges or the dude who judges someone else for how they choose to spend their money?

 

When did I judge someone by what they play? I personally think its a joke to pay that much for a club. Then again I don't play in magic sand and grass where these would be beneficial so I guess I just don't get it. But hey if you wanna blow your money on them, have fun. Like I said before I'll continue to use my $5 dollar wedge that works for me. Try not to waste too much energy being upset about it man, its really not good for your health, dude-bro.

[FairwayFred]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

[SPY ZINGER]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

Sounds like a guy that ran a wedge and iron business!

[FairwayFred]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

Sounds like a guy that ran a wedge and iron business!

 

Who? Me? :D

[AThompson_3]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

Here's the thing. Is a 16 handicap going to spend $2000 on wedges or a circle T anyways? I don't know any 16 handicaps that have over a $1000 invested in their whole bag. I also don't play with too many people that are 16 handicaps, but still I've never met one. Even then it's been proven that even the worst golfers have enough consistency that a proper fitting will benefit their game. I just don't know too many subpar golfers who have that much invested.

[nochct1]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

I should have clarified. There is a benefit to getting fit. But the 20 handicap would do perfectly fine getting fit for an off the shelf Vokey. Anything more than that isn't going to do much.

However, if they get enjoyment out of spending $2k for top of the line Wedges, then they should do so. I'm not going to try to talk somebody out of that.

[stryper]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

Nope, it's stupid...sorry.

 

Edit to add: and the resale value on these will be what? :dntknw:

WHO THE HELL BUYS GOLF CLUBS BASED ON RESALE VALUE? You just don't get it.

 

No need to shout, resale value was an aside...but I think you knew that.

 

Regardless, you're still right, I don't get it. But since you don't quite get it either, value-wise, will $2000 for a fist full of wedges and a wonder-filled fitting experience with an alleged wedge wizard really make any difference in anyone's game? Do you really think $2000 will buy you a better short game? More so, is an incrementally better short game worth that kind of investment for any recreational, non-professional player?

Haha the only thing you see is the $.

 

Again, you're right...that's all I see, but I suspect that's all that JP sees as well. So buy the snake oil, drink the koolaid, if that's what you want. It's your money to do with as you please.

 

And let us know which tour these sticks propel your game onto.

[BigHook25]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

I should have clarified. There is a benefit to getting fit. But the 20 handicap would do perfectly fine getting fit for an off the shelf Vokey. Anything more than that isn't going to do much.

However, if they get enjoyment out of spending $2k for top of the line Wedges, then they should do so. I'm not going to try to talk somebody out of that.

 

Does your dad know that your are using his computer

[buckeyefl]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

Here's the thing. Is a 16 handicap going to spend $2000 on wedges or a circle T anyways? I don't know any 16 handicaps that have over a $1000 invested in their whole bag. I also don't play with too many people that are 16 handicaps, but still I've never met one. Even then it's been proven that even the worst golfers have enough consistency that a proper fitting will benefit their game. I just don't know too many subpar golfers who have that much invested.

You have to be kidding. The whole equipment section is filled with 16+ handicappers who have well over that amount in their bag. The equioment companies make a fortune off of 16 handicappers. How much does a name brand set of irons and a driver cost? A"proper" fitting does not run anywhere near $1000 and they would gain the same benefit for reasons already posted. You are really hard to win the discussion by making ridiculous claims. Spend your money how you like but just stop with the high dollar fittings/equipment making a lick of difference or being any better for Average Joe, its simply not true.

[AThompson_3]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

Here's the thing. Is a 16 handicap going to spend $2000 on wedges or a circle T anyways? I don't know any 16 handicaps that have over a $1000 invested in their whole bag. I also don't play with too many people that are 16 handicaps, but still I've never met one. Even then it's been proven that even the worst golfers have enough consistency that a proper fitting will benefit their game. I just don't know too many subpar golfers who have that much invested.

You have to be kidding. The whole equipment section is filled with 16+ handicappers who have well over that amount in their bag. The equioment companies make a fortune off of 16 handicappers. How much does a name brand set of irons and a driver cost? A"proper" fitting does not run anywhere near $1000 and they would gain the same benefit for reasons already posted. You are really hard to win the discussion by making ridiculous claims. Spend your money how you like but just stop with the high dollar fittings/equipment making a lick of difference or being any better for Average Joe, its simply not true.

I don't know very many people on here (that I know of) and I certainly don't know their handicaps. Most of my time on WRX is spent on the mobile platform and the handicap info doesn't show up when using mobile. I was just saying from my personal experience that I don't know any 16 handicaps who invest a whole lot of money in their bag. Maybe a couple who have a new Ping G driver or M2 or something. But that's just one club. They have a new driver matched with a set of G5's or something similar from 10+ years ago. Like I said though just my experience. Most of the people I know who spend money on their clubs are single digit or close to single digit handicaps.

[BIG STU]

Man I was thrilled when I saw the headlines. Man oh man I thought Joe Phillips is back!!! Then I saw the light------------- OOPs not Joe Phillips----- I know you have to be over 50 to get all of this-------- I do know that rusty darn near worn out JP WILSON was knocking down pins yesterday!! Oh well I have about 20 of them.

 

I know I am being a old crumudgen this morning--- I wish Titleist and the "new" JP all the luck in the world.

[nochct1]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

I should have clarified. There is a benefit to getting fit. But the 20 handicap would do perfectly fine getting fit for an off the shelf Vokey. Anything more than that isn't going to do much.

However, if they get enjoyment out of spending $2k for top of the line Wedges, then they should do so. I'm not going to try to talk somebody out of that.

 

Does your dad know that your are using his computer

 

?? I'm not sure I understand? I'm simply pointing out that custom grinding is a waste of money for most people. But they do it because they get enjoyment out of it. And that's fine.

And yes, I can afford to spend $2k on Wedges. It wouldn't have an impact on my life. But I choose not to because I don't see any value in doing so. People spend money for different reasons.

 

 

[buckeyefl]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

Here's the thing. Is a 16 handicap going to spend $2000 on wedges or a circle T anyways? I don't know any 16 handicaps that have over a $1000 invested in their whole bag. I also don't play with too many people that are 16 handicaps, but still I've never met one. Even then it's been proven that even the worst golfers have enough consistency that a proper fitting will benefit their game. I just don't know too many subpar golfers who have that much invested.

You have to be kidding. The whole equipment section is filled with 16+ handicappers who have well over that amount in their bag. The equipment companies make a fortune off of 16 handicappers. How much does a name brand set of irons and a driver cost? A"proper" fitting does not run anywhere near $1000 and they would gain the same benefit for reasons already posted. You are really hard to win the discussion by making ridiculous claims. Spend your money how you like but just stop with the high dollar fittings/equipment making a lick of difference or being any better for Average Joe, its simply not true.

I don't know very many people on here (that I know of) and I certainly don't know their handicaps. Most of my time on WRX is spent on the mobile platform and the handicap info doesn't show up when using mobile. I was just saying from my personal experience that I don't know any 16 handicaps who invest a whole lot of money in their bag. Maybe a couple who have a new Ping G driver or M2 or something. But that's just one club. They have a new driver matched with a set of G5's or something similar from 10+ years ago. Like I said though just my experience. Most of the people I know who spend money on their clubs are single digit or close to single digit handicaps.

 

Add the original cost of G5s, an M2 driver, a putter and a couple of vokeys. The MSRP for G5s was $800. I am not sure how not playing with higher handicap players makes it so difficult to see they spend more than lower handicaps as a whole or how you don't know the general cost of the tools people use. Clubs are not cheap and you can hit $1000 with a set of irons alone in a second, even ones used by high handicappers.You don't have to play with a variety of players to know any of these things.

[cgasucks]

$2,000 is cheap considering you are getting 3 hand ground wedges fit to you specifically by one of the top 3 wedge specialists in the world. Bob Vokey charges $2,000 for his wedge experience and its the same deal 3 hand ground wedges fit by Voke himself. $2,000 is a bargain.

 

I figure people can just spend their money however they want. But let's not pretend that hand grinding by a top wedge specialist is going to help them. 95% of the people who are going to buy these don't have the skill to truly benefit from a custom grind.

 

If it makes them feel good, then go out a spend the money. They are very cool looking. Just look at the market for Cameron putters. A rat stamp doesn't make a club better. It just adds $1k to the price. The golfer is still a 16 handicap. But now their bag looks cool.

 

Just about any golfer will benefit from a properly fit wedge or a custom grind if you want to call it that. Golf is hard enough having wedges that work with you rather than against you makes a huge difference. Obviously not going to turn a 20 into a tour pro but it might help that 20 get down to an 18 and have a little more confidence around the greens. Is that worth the price of admission? Depends on who you are and what your looking to spend but saying that 95% won't benefit from a properly fit or custom ground wedge is just not true.

 

(speaking in general wedge fitting terms here not specifically about these new JP wedges)

 

I don't think so. With good sound technique, you can play with any wedge (regardless of grind or bounce). The tour pros in the old days (before crazy multi colored stampings and personalized grinds) did just fine without those vanity features back then. This goes the same for putters as well.

 

Think about it, what's the point of having a high or mid handicap golfer paying tons of money for a wedge with a bounce and grind that is specially made for him/her only to have that feature dissipated if he/she is a flipper or scooper through impact?

[Andrew Bond of Glencoe]

I could see $2k for 3 or $2500 for 4 wedges if....

The faces could be replaced. All those pieces put together and they can't offer you the option to replace the face?

 

I would also debate the "hand ground" comment as this wedge has three different types of metal.

 

I have spent $1000 on 3 custom wedges. Doubling that amount seems a bit high for me.

 

Is there a market? I would say yes. These will be a limited offering and there are way too many gear heads and rich people that will pay the money.

[Texsport]

Agreed!

 

It's why I wondered about a pro discount - some of them change their wedges every 6 - 8 weeks.

 

Texsport

[tannyhoban]

Agreed!

 

It's why I wondered about a pro discount - some of them change their wedges every 6 - 8 weeks.

 

Texsport

 

 

Just a thought, how many pros currently playing JP wedges?

[buckeyefl]

I could see $2k for 3 or $2500 for 4 wedges if....

The faces could be replaced. All those pieces put together and they can't offer you the option to replace the face?

 

I would also debate the "hand ground" comment as this wedge has three different types of metal.

 

I have spent $1000 on 3 custom wedges. Doubling that amount seems a bit high for me.

 

Is there a market? I would say yes. These will be a limited offering and there are way too many gear heads and rich people that will pay the money.

 

In his interview he talks extensively about how he CNC mills the wedges and how great it is ( being able to make identical grinds) so I am not sure how much hands on time is involved. Probably has variety of settings for grinds that he programs into the system.

[Texsport]

Agreed!

 

It's why I wondered about a pro discount - some of them change their wedges every 6 - 8 weeks.

 

Texsport

 

 

Just a thought, how many pros currently playing JP wedges?

 

Likely none since just announced.

 

But Titleist will get some in Tour bags soon.

 

So, at $500 a pop, could be 25 JP wedges/yr for a pro X $500 = $12,500/yr!

 

I think it's just a new marketing idea started by PXG. Don't have clubs in stock anywhere, or in inventory. Only make clubs as individually ordered.

 

An extension of Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy from other industries.

 

Texsport

[Thrillhouse]

I could see $2k for 3 or $2500 for 4 wedges if....

The faces could be replaced. All those pieces put together and they can't offer you the option to replace the face?

 

I think that's searching for a value add that would make this financially justifiable to the common consumer like you or me. Thing is, this is a luxury good, and luxury goods by their nature are not financially justifiable. There is no financial reason to spend $500 on a Burberry or Louis Vuitton wallet, it won't hold your money any differently than a $20 wallet. Sure the quality of materials may be better, and some may argue that makes a difference as far as value is concerned, but the actual results will be minimal.

 

The people who can actually afford these won't care about the price of replacement wedges, another $2000 on wedges is like a trip to McDonald's to them.

 

If you're trying to justify this financially here's the thing. You can do a regular titleist wedge fitting at any of their fitting centres for I think $100-$150, you have a full slate of vokey bounce and grind options from the stock sm6 offerings, so you can get the same level of performance as you can in these wedges for $700, and then when you need replacement wedges it's just the price of a wedge because you know your specs.

 

These JP wedges are offering a cool experience and some unique clubs, that's what you're paying for. While there may be a performance benefit as well you can get the same benefit for a third of the price.

[Jack Pearsall]

Arrggghhhh!!!

 

The idea that one would search out used versions of this club that are purposefully custom fitted to a stranger because they would be cheaper is just a little bit bizarre, and thoroughly in contradiction with the original manufacturing idea behind the clubs. Truly a cache play. :)

[SPY ZINGER]

Arrggghhhh!!!

 

The idea that one would search out used versions of this club that are purposefully custom fitted to a stranger because they would be cheaper is just a little bit bizarre, and thoroughly in contradiction with the original manufacturing idea behind the clubs. Truly a cache play. :)

 

I am hearing the JP stamp on these wedges actually stand for Jack Pearsall.

[tannyhoban]

Agreed!

 

It's why I wondered about a pro discount - some of them change their wedges every 6 - 8 weeks.

 

Texsport

 

 

Just a thought, how many pros currently playing JP wedges?

 

Likely none since just announced.

 

But Titleist will get some in Tour bags soon.

 

So, at $500 a pop, could be 25 JP wedges/yr for a pro X $500 = $12,500/yr!

 

I think it's just a new marketing idea started by PXG. Don't have clubs in stock anywhere, or in inventory. Only make clubs as individually ordered.

 

An extension of Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy from other industries.

 

Texsport

 

This has nothing to do with LEAN mfg. OR JIT. PXG still has to stock their fitters. Titleist obviously has chosen to enter the boutique market and groomed the designer. Then they scaled it. Big difference from going LEAN. This is just another market decision that started out as a big hairy audacious idea, full marketing behind it. And JP has been making wedges for awhile now - granted with a hiatus. So did any pros really use them?

[BWTgolfer]

When you have guys like Cleveland and Vokey who have built their reputation during their entire lifetime, I'm thinking that JP has a little learning curve to come up to speed to compete with these guys. Price alone does not guarantee a quality product or a guaranteed swing. Like some other posters have said, you're paying more for the experience than the actual product. The only reservation that I have a the 4 piece design. Looking at the weight and the position where it's placed, I don't think that "forgiveness" will not be it's main qualifier. I bet I can scruff this wedge as well as my Mack Daddy forged.

[Jack Pearsall]

Always felt wedges are the very easiest irons to hit...if you can't hit a Vokey or Mizzie or Callie wedge, what the heck happens with your 7 iron?

Wedge forgiveness seems like a somewhat funny, almost retail marketing concept...then again, JP hasn't seem everyone hit a wedge, so...maybe it's out there and he's just clueless?

[Yarra]

Always felt wedges are the very easiest irons to hit...if you can't hit a Vokey or Mizzie or Callie wedge, what the heck happens with your 7 iron?

Wedge forgiveness seems like a somewhat funny, almost retail marketing concept...then again, JP hasn't seem everyone hit a wedge, so...maybe it's out there and he's just clueless?

 

I am one of those guys who are very particular about my grind when it comes to my 60° wedge. I can't seem to play certain grinds for chipping around the green. But maybe that's more of my skill and my swing rather than the wedge, but I find it very helpful to have my wedge ground the way I like it. Lets me play and execute a certain shot (flop, etc) with ease...

[whatshannenin]

When you have guys like Cleveland and Vokey who have built their reputation during their entire lifetime, I'm thinking that JP has a little learning curve to come up to speed to compete with these guys. Price alone does not guarantee a quality product or a guaranteed swing. Like some other posters have said, you're paying more for the experience than the actual product. The only reservation that I have a the 4 piece design. Looking at the weight and the position where it's placed, I don't think that "forgiveness" will not be it's main qualifier. I bet I can scruff this wedge as well as my Mack Daddy forged.

 

What does JP have to learn specifically from Cleveland or Vokey? Wally Uilein told me to ask....

 

Always felt wedges are the very easiest irons to hit...if you can't hit a Vokey or Mizzie or Callie wedge, what the heck happens with your 7 iron?

Wedge forgiveness seems like a somewhat funny, almost retail marketing concept...then again, JP hasn't seem everyone hit a wedge, so...maybe it's out there and he's just clueless?

 

I always thought 7* Tony Pena persimmons were easy to hit. Guess those metal wood inventors were clueless.....