New Blades and CBs for Callaway in 2020...?

[Kale_m]

Love my apex mb raw set!! They are not going anywhere!

[Thayneil]

> @st_pedro said:

> > @KJD777 said:

> > With the trend towards a 24 month cycle for Callaway, there has to be a strong chance that we will see an update to the Apex MB and the X Forged. Anyone have any more info or thoughts?

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> XForged 2.0 “star” maybe JDM only

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i dont get Japan release only.

 

Dont they have Post Offices or Fed Ex!

[ssfranny]

> @PowerCobra98 said:

> So...any more concrete info on a new X-Forged replacement? Timeline?

 

 

If they came out with a slightly larger X forged with modern lofts It would be a huge seller in my opinion.

 

[wely324]

> @ssfranny said:

> > @PowerCobra98 said:

> > So...any more concrete info on a new X-Forged replacement? Timeline?

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> If they came out with a slightly larger X forged with modern lofts It would be a huge seller in my opinion.

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X forged PW is 45*, seems pretty modern, aka strong lofted, to me. A slightly bigger clubface, mostly taller from what I can see, would be a apex pro or apex.

[TheMoneyShot]

> @Thayneil said:

> > @st_pedro said:

> > > @KJD777 said:

> > > With the trend towards a 24 month cycle for Callaway, there has to be a strong chance that we will see an update to the Apex MB and the X Forged. Anyone have any more info or thoughts?

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> > XForged 2.0 “star” maybe JDM only

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> i dont get Japan release only.

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> Dont they have Post Offices or Fed Ex!

 

Hopefully something similar will hit the states.

[KJD777]

1000% positive there will be no new releases in the X-Forged or MB category this year, I have seen the whole line

[TheMoneyShot]

> @KJD777 said:

> 1000% positive there will be no new releases in the X-Forged or MB category this year, I have seen the whole line

 

Anything nice for us to get excited about?

[WristySwing]

> @ssfranny said:

> > @PowerCobra98 said:

> > So...any more concrete info on a new X-Forged replacement? Timeline?

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> If they came out with a slightly larger X forged with modern lofts It would be a huge seller in my opinion.

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At least on here it wouldn't. The whining about how everyone should play a 60* PW would fill 500 pages and the guys saying they don't need to hit a 7i 250y would be rampant. I'd be willing to bet a good chunk of those players a) suck compared to the level they say they play at and b) wouldn't know the difference anyways. I've fit enough good players to know and see that a good player will hit any 6i, regardless of loft, the distance it should go for them. Good players adapt. Hacks don't. I for one, am in the hack camp.

 

As for the X-Forged and modern lofts, there are already so many of these types of clubs now. Apex/Apex Pro/Epic Forged, Srixon Z785, Honma 747V, Mizuno HMB/MMC, Cobra Forged Tec Black, Ping I500. It's a nice market idea, but it's also a market that is currently flooded and Callaway already has 3 irons that fit snugly in that category. Not to mention they'll likely have something kind of close in the Maverick Pro, making a 4th. My guess when they bring out X-Forged 2020 or 2021 it won't be much of a departure from what they have had since the inception of the X-Forged line (smaller topline, traditional-ish loft, lower offset, thinner sole). It is a better player's club after all.

[KJD777]

> @TheMoneyShot said:

> > @KJD777 said:

> > 1000% positive there will be no new releases in the X-Forged or MB category this year, I have seen the whole line

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> Anything nice for us to get excited about?

 

Only new irons are the Maverick lines, the Woods look sweet and so do the new Stroke Lab and Triple Track putter lines, some good new shapes to see. Very excited about the new golf ball as well

 

[xGameOver]

Looks like Aaron wise is trying the new Callaway MBs. Perhaps those are in the lineup for early 2020 release as well?

[QuigleyDU]

> @SuperBombin said:

> Looks like Aaron wise is trying the new Callaway MBs. Perhaps those are in the lineup for early 2020 release as well?

 

I was told no, but you never know. It could be something like the apex dot heads. So it is not really considered a new release but a release within a release.

[wely324]

What's the story with the Apex MB stamped irons that look like Miura blades. Are they a one off design for Callaway or are they the new MB101 form miura? or is it just rumor that they are miura blades?

[Kgglonghorn]

how much can you really do to update a muscle back? I think all the manufacturers make some name changes and slight tweaks to the muscle and get us pigeons to keep antying up for new clubs when they are basically the same with each release. I game the Callaway MBs and they are SWEET and PURE. No upgrades needed to those bad boys.

And just foir good measure, my last five sets of clubs:

Mizuno TP 9

Titleist 690 MB

Mizuno MP 68

Miura blades

Callaway MB

Those clubs span 20 years of golf and all are buttery and all play about the same. I have been hitting a 5 iron about 190 yards since the 90's and I still do. I think muscle back irons are immune to technology aside from some slight tweaks to the shape of the muscle and then do a little bending to the lofts.

[lakecowboy]

Have you hit the new MP-20s? I feel like they feel softer than traditional muscle backs. May just be a placebo effect of the copper.

[GMN_02]

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Those aren’t new

[wely324]

Were or are they available through retail locations?

[Smitty120]

Those sure look like the the blades that Molinari and select other staffers are gaming.

[Lacey Underall]

Those are far different than the retail version. Looks similar to the variation that Molinari was using. Even the chrome plating looks different (that's one change I wish they would bring to retail). Either give us the raw version in the US or we would settle for a satin chrome.

[wely324]

I like the shiny chrome finish, would love to see those available for retail. why not offer the irons that the staff is using???

[wely324]

so identical swing speed and club data, etc. you are saying two irons that have the same shaft and only differ in loft, for example a 32* 6 iron and a 30* 6 iron will go the same distance? if that's true then what is the big deal of yardage gapping your clubs etc?

 

[WristySwing]

I'm saying they adapt. They will slow their rotation of the hands a little bit more or less to get it to do what they need it to influencing the dynamic loft. Or if they need it to go 175 they can flight it a certain way to get that number much better than amateurs can who rely heavily on my 6i goes 175 without thinking about the different ways to get it to go 175. But yes, more often than not I don't see hugely different numbers out of different lofted clubs. I have a set of New level irons at 28* and a set of 660 MBs at 32* (both 6i) and I hit the 32* MB 170 when struck decently and the 28* one goes about the same. Different flights and shafts and all that but ball speed is almost identical.

[wely324]

 

 

What defines being a "good player" and what yardage spread is considered "not hugely different"? If someone is spending money to be fitted and they are looking for certain yardage gaps, I would hope a club fitter, like yourself, wouldn't just say, "it's a 6 iron, regardless of loft, you will hit it your normal distance for a 6 iron." A 4 degree spread in loft should easily see a 10+ yard gap in the same club and shaft. And for "good players who adapt", yes they can but I am pretty sure they don't want to be manipulating their swings to get the yardages they want on a 100% distance shot for that club, or they would want to know what those distances would be. But what do I know, I'm probably someone who wouldn't know the difference.

[WristySwing]

I've seen as low as 2-3 yards (myself), some are 4-5 where they feel they are still hitting the same club. Others can see upwards of 10+ yards. It really depends how much the player delofts the club. Someone who flips a decent amount at it usually doesn't see more than 3-4 per club unless you do something extreme.

[OcRockRoller]

They are Miura 101 with Callaway stamps, confirmed

[summerof]

These look nice:https://callawaynews.jp/callaway-exclusive/5414/

[DFS PFD]

Never thought they'd release those, $2065.00 and fluent in Japanese seems to be the only requirements.

[QuigleyDU]

Hahaha. Google translate is your friend. So now I am confused. Are these muira??

[DFS PFD]

From what I read they are a "Callaway exclusive" product? But coming from Japan only I'm not sure what that means when everyone knows the top forging houses do made for stuff all the time...

[QuigleyDU]

yeah. Who know, and for me really who cares. They are way out of my price range.