COVID-19 and tournaments (MOD EDIT: NO CORONAVIRUS DISCUSSIONS. KEEP RESPONSES ON TOPIC)

[wildcatden]

Our local Little League has suspended the season until further notice. Bummer.

[Sean2]

In 2013 almost 60,000 people died of the flu in the US and yet life seemed to proceed as normal. Not sure what to think.

[BloctonGolf11]

Can we please stop making this false comparison/equivalency to the flu. It is far more complicated than simply comparing those numbers.

[Tingting]

Agree its apple to oranges. COVID testing has specific criteria prior to testing PIUs travel vs flu.

[heavy_hitter]

After doing my own research and some discussions I had last night my opinion is that the CoronaVirus is more dangerous than I though. With the flu you are looking at less than a 1% fatality rate. With the CoronVirus it is somewhere between 3%-5%. Numbers are are still coming in throughout the world and could obviously change for the worse or better, but right now that is where it sits. The virus is highly contagious because you can feel fine and spread the virus. Kids can contract the virus, but not necessarily get sick from it. With kids it is very similar to Hep A where it makes an adult extremely ill but a kid can test positive and have no side effects from it.

 

Right now we will be business as usual as it comes to golf. We are going to avoid tournaments like AJGA, Hurricane, or other tournaments that have an abundant amount of people flying in to play.

[GoGoErky]

What’s the mortality rate based on? Is it the overwhelming of the medical system like in Italy and where the population is over 65 which happens to be the age range for where the virus has the largest impact or is it the general consensus of the experts that will be the eventual rate. South Korea is under 1% as is the US to date.

 

[wildcatden]

Our local school district hasn't closed yet, but you can keep your kid out of school with no ramifications on absences (they are excused). School district sports, school dances, theater, etc... have been suspended.My company hasn't closed our local office yet, but they did close HQ on the east coast for 2 days this week to clean/disinfect the office due to someone being exposed to someone with COVID-19 (and they are now under quarantine).Our local Little League suspended.

I'm curious as to what the overall mortality rate truly is (across age groups). Someone probably has a website slicing and dicing it based upon known cases of COVID-19. "Known cases" being the key word because many cases may not be known or people may never present symptoms (very mild).

[heavy_hitter]

The US is not under 1%. If you do the math including active cases it is at 2.7%. However, you can't use active cases because those people haven't recovered. There have been 38 deaths in the states meanwhile only 15 people have fully recovered. There is not enough data to accurately give a percentage on what the fatality rate is.

Not enough data on recovery from South Korea as they have over 7000 active cases with 333 recoveries and 66 deaths.

 

Worldwide the Fatality rate only using Deaths and recoveries is over 6% fatality rate. I think China is the best stat there is. 65,995 cases of deaths 3,169 and recoveries 62,826. That is a mortality rate of 4.8 %.

[heavy_hitter]

#1 Commodity is Ammo. Stock up.

[darter79]

I got a letter from our school saying students will be bringing books home for spring break in the event of school is canceled they will go to a remote learning and they are looking into ect ect. From all my friends doing non golf sports everything is still on here a bit shocked by the NBA honestly. Now all the power 5 have canceled their conference tournaments. NHL has now told teams not to practice. Now the PGA starting Friday will have no fans at events at least until the Texas Open. Sports do a lot of things they take your mind off the reality of the world I sure hope this doesn't last but its starting to seem like its going to be here for a bit.

[dlc1914]

Thank you for actually doing some research and not going off of your "gut" like so many people are seeming to do. I trust medical professionals opinions on this way more than my own and the majority of them are VERY concerned. It's possible that we as a country are overblowing the whole thing, BUT given the stakes I think it's better to overreact NOW instead of looking back and saying we under-reacted.

Just my $.02.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

Our school system is holding a teacher workday on monday to teach them distance learning. Its about time (that's a separate topic).

Got notice that MAPGA is postponing their pro events for March. Waiting to see about April.

[leezer99]

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[wildcatden]

Anything on age groups on that site? Curious.... I thought I read an article this morning that in China the death rate for patients age 65+ was 7% (or so).

[JuniorGolfParent]

I think the death rate is significantly higher for elderlyhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[wildcatden]

 

Wow, yes quite significant for the elderly.

 

[leezer99]

That's from late February. There's nothing new I could find online about the ages impacted.

[kekoa]

Our local scpga tournaments just canceled tournaments until april. Knee jerk reaction, but I guess better safe than sorry since all other big organizations are cancelling events.

[leezer99]

San Diego Jr Golf and Cali Jr as well. US Kids LA will cancel as well I'm sure. FCG sent an email this morning saying they were still going but they'll get pressured into cancelling as well.

[wildcatden]

Rather safe than sorry for these tournaments to cancel. I suspect all USKG to cancel nationwide. I'm happy we have a golf mat and net to hit into in the backyard during the next few weeks. Plus, we've got a batting tee for hitting and can work on our fastball in the backyard also. Everyone just be safe and wise.

[wildcatden]

If anyone is wondering how long this virus shutdown stuff may last, I would suggest at least 6-8 weeks. My company has offices all throughout China's major cities (ex: Shanghai, Beijing) All of our users started working from home around January 20th, and they are just now returning to the office next Monday. There is much concern of a second wave of a virus outbreak.

[mrshinsa]

They're probably just following the law... Coronavirus: Gov. Newsom orders statewide cancellation of gatherings over 250

Surprisingly our local director has yet to cancel ours. Our event is sold out with nearly 200 players + caddies + spectators and volunteers.

[darter79]

I asked our tour director about this as of yesterday USKG has no plans to cancel any events per him but with every pro sport not on hold that might change. He has control of the local ones but USKG can step in and override that. I would think USKG would not want to cancel something like worlds until it gets closer, it wouldn't surprise me to see them cancel this months regional but nothing as of yet. Has anyone talked to them or emailed them directly?

[mrshinsa]

Even PGA has cancelled. US Kids is now truly the last sport organization standing...

 

[hangontight]

We’re scheduled for Jekyll Island Regional. Thought about calling, but no point. I am sure they are swamped and have no straight answer yet - betting they have something out today.

[darter79]

Just called USKG....

 

Nothing official yet but they are in a meeting right now so expect a release later today. The guy I spoke with told me he thinks the locals will continue as long as the local director wants to continue to run them. If people want to withdraw they can with a full refund due to this going on. In terms of regional he said he expects Jekyll to be canceled and probably the Texas Open but nothing in terms of Worlds will be decided for a little while again these are unofficial statements. I know in Texas some of the other tours are still operating under normal schedules but I bet that stops sooner than later.

 

Breaking news. The masters just postponed DCP, Masters and ANWA

[dlc1914]

AAU cancelled all activities through end of the month.

[leezer99]

Meanwhile in CA our governor says Disneyland must close while not allowing schools to close without penalty unless there is a positive case of COVID-19.

[wildcatden]

Several Bay Area districts are shutting starting Monday. San Francisco with 113 public schools and 54,000 students was first to announce shutting down for 3 weeks.

[Kcct82]

We got our notice last night that schools will be closing on Monday. I’m surprised there are no words from our local USKG director yet.