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4 hours ago, notsohard said:

Going to get interesting when the honeymoon period is over and SSG wants its returns. 


 

The guys are all billionaires and sports team owners. Steve Cohen alone is worth 20 billion, owns the Mets, and runs a hedge fund with like a 3000 person team that crunches numbers all day. 
 

The pga tour never produced that much excess in “earnings” after expenses and they are well aware of this. 
 

The return comes not necessarily from YoY profitability 

 

It comes from what is called an “exit”

 

Either selling to someone else or going public. It’s understood this can take many years of no returns and/or losses. 


So far let’s speculate as an SSG partner, Steve Cohen has put up a couple hundred million for this deal. sounds like a lot

 

But consider he also reportedly paid $165MM for this painting 🤣

 

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7 minutes ago, tomjas said:


Only if they allowed Cam Smith to play 

 

Btw, LIV Adelaide is significantly bigger than the President’s Cup was in Australia 

 

Simply because it's a booze fest and giant party. 

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3 minutes ago, tomjas said:


See Phoenix which has been far & away the most successful PGAT tournament this year 

 

In terms of golf or beer consumed ? I doubt PGAT brass would consider Phoenix the most "successful" tournament this year and I'm sure have plans to turn the Phoenix volume down some for next year. Like Adelaide, most attendees don't give a hoot about golf. 

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1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:


 

This truly underlines where there is an actual market/demand for LIV vs the US

Let's also keep the AUS market in proper context. The entire population of AUS is like 25% smaller than the state of California. So growth is limited. 

 

Also in proper context 120k presold tickets is still not that much. Oak Hill in the relatively small market of Rochester NY sold 225,000 tickets for the 2023 pga championship. Waste Management in Phoenix gets around 700k!

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8 minutes ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Let's also keep the AUS market in proper context. The entire population of AUS is like 25% smaller than the state of California. So growth is limited. 

 

Also in proper context 120k presold tickets is still not that much. Oak Hill in the relatively small market of Rochester NY sold 225,000 tickets for the 2023 pga championship. Waste Management in Phoenix gets around 700k!


True but it’s the biggest tournament in the history of Australian golf and has had significant flow on effects for the game in this country 

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27 minutes ago, Ghost of Snead said:

 

In terms of golf or beer consumed ? I doubt PGAT brass would consider Phoenix the most "successful" tournament this year and I'm sure have plans to turn the Phoenix volume down some for next year. Like Adelaide, most attendees don't give a hoot about golf. 


Hard to justify enormous purses if nobody is watching 

 

The turnout (or lack thereof) for the RBC so far is woeful 

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2 minutes ago, tomjas said:


True but it’s the biggest tournament in the history of Australian golf and has had significant flow on effects for the game in this country 

Just noticed LIV put up the YT vid of its highlights from last year at Adelaide to promote the runup to its “signature” event. After a little over one day - 2.6k looks. After 12 hours highlights of Scheffler’s round yesterday - 58,000 looks. Even on its “platform” nobody cares. 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Just noticed LIV put up the YT vid of its highlights from last year at Adelaide to promote the runup to its “signature” event. After a little over one day - 2.6k looks. After 12 hours highlights of Scheffler’s round yesterday - 58,000 looks. Even on its “platform” nobody cares. 

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29 minutes ago, tomjas said:


See Phoenix which has been far & away the most successful PGAT tournament this year 

 

No it wasn't.

 

It was a drunken mess with arrests, a woman falling out of a grandstand, people with tickets couldn't get in, security told put an alcohol sale halt on the Saturday and even fights.

 

Several players were unhappy with the crowd behaviour and organisers have acknowledged significant changes are required for next year.

 

Hillsides at the rain-hit Phoenix Open were transformed into mudslides – a description taken literally by some fans.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Just noticed LIV put up the YT vid of its highlights from last year at Adelaide to promote the runup to its “signature” event. After a little over one day - 2.6k looks. After 12 hours highlights of Scheffler’s round yesterday - 58,000 looks. Even on its “platform” nobody cares. 


Why would anyone watch a replay when it was shown live on free to air in Australia & we’ve already seen it?

 

Nobody watched Scheffler yesterday so are catching up 

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14 minutes ago, tomjas said:


Lol

 

It’s a sellout at 120k and government approval was required to increase capacity to that amount 


 

 

 

They must be offering free trips to Coober Pedy to mine opals.

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