Srixon Z-Forged II seen at Zozo

[Rosco1216]

8 minutes ago, jholz said:

 

Nice one. Pushing it back even further.

That’s about as far back as I know first hand but I’m sure there are older ones!

 

3 minutes ago, golfinbrad said:

One of my all time favorites right there.

Great line of clubs! I played the pro for most of my highschool playing days. Actually, won a 36 hole tournament my very first time hitting them and it was my first ever school tournament. My coach wasn’t happy at first when I showed up with clubs I’d never hit!

[BirdieBob]

Much prefer the current Z-Forged Blade look.

[BraxtonFullerton]

Ugly as sin.

[m_w]

38 minutes ago, golfinbrad said:

One of my all time favorites right there.

Same. Those were my first set of custom clubs. T-Zoid Pro

[golfinbrad]

17 minutes ago, m_w said:

Same. Those were my first set of custom clubs. T-Zoid Pro

Mine weren't custom, but they were my first new set.

[Red4282]

1 hour ago, jholz said:

Everything old is new again....

 

Toe is not as round 😉

[jholz]

2 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

Toe is not as round 😉

 

Well, that's just how they are achieving the increased distance and tightened dispersion that this "new" design will achieve. Engineers are working around the clock, I am sure. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by jholz

[AdamStoutjesdyk]

The best combination of J33, TZoid Trues and Cobra Pro Blades All my favorites of all time 

[cav5]

i like em!

[fixurpitch]

I think they’d look better… in my bag. Not that I’m skilled enough to play them. They look great. 

[mngolfer7]

Interesting to hear everyone's opinions on a new blade design. Hard to really push the envelope of progress with a "true blade", so I don't think we can be too offended when a company does something relatively unique. If they came out with something nearly identical to the original Z Forged, we'd complain that it's just a recycled design to make money.

 

That being said, these look awesome from address. Perfect blend of visual appeal without being too intimidating.

[Is Golf Fun or Work]

I don't think those are unique, J33 or mid 1990s Mizzy TZoid very similar

[mngolfer7]

Just now, Is Golf Fun or Work said:

I don't think those are unique, J33 or mid 1990s Mizzy TZoid very similar

Unique for the current blade marketplace.

[BraxtonFullerton]

1 hour ago, mngolfer7 said:

Hard to really push the envelope of progress with a "true blade"

 

I mean pushing progress is not the point of a blade... But with how good manufacturers are getting at hiding tungsten and foam into smaller looking packages; they may not be around in "true" form much longer.

[mngolfer7]

2 minutes ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

 

I mean pushing progress is not the point of a blade... But with how good manufacturers are getting at hiding tungsten and foam into smaller looking packages; they may not be around in "true" form much longer.

I agree, but I know if they did not change much from the last Z Forged people would complain about that too.

 

I think we are moving away from that for sure, and probably with good reason. Irons in an i59 looking package that can mimic the performance of a blade (low launch, high spin) with added forgiveness will likely become more the norm.

[coloradogolf72]

Just like with almost anything, we will hear the dislikes more than the likes. 

[Red4282]

1 hour ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

 

I mean pushing progress is not the point of a blade... But with how good manufacturers are getting at hiding tungsten and foam into smaller looking packages; they may not be around in "true" form much longer.

Disagree…. A one piece true forging will ALWAYS have its place.

[BraxtonFullerton]

10 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

Disagree…. A one piece true forging will ALWAYS have its place.

 

In our hearts... yes... in reality... I think materials will be good enough in the next 5-10 years, that you won't see many, if any, traditional one piece forgings anymore... either that or the product lifecycles will get ridiculously long.

[Viper4225]

 

will HIDEKI game these? 

 

 

[mngolfer7]

20 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

Disagree…. A one piece true forging will ALWAYS have its place.

If OEMs can completely mimic them with added performance benefits, I don't see the financial incentive for them to sell them anymore. Maybe they can't get there, but I think they keep creeping closer and closer each year.

[Canthelion]

These look terrible, looks just like an old t-zoid. Next thing you know fanny packs and pit viper sunglasses will be back in style. 

[Red4282]

1 hour ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

 

In our hearts... yes... in reality... I think materials will be good enough in the next 5-10 years, that you won't see many, if any, traditional one piece forgings anymore... either that or the product lifecycles will get ridiculously long.

Again l, disagree. Same materials we had 20 years ago. Its been around over a century and isnt going anywhere. If a company is dumb enough to not offer one, many will just find a brand that will. The life cylces are getting longer but thats just due to companies wising up to the marketshare for a full set is rather small 1-2%

Edited October 19, 2022 by Red4282

[Red4282]

57 minutes ago, mngolfer7 said:

If OEMs can completely mimic them with added performance benefits, I don't see the financial incentive for them to sell them anymore. Maybe they can't get there, but I think they keep creeping closer and closer each year.

But from an 8 iron (~35*) through wedges, there isnt much tech can do. This has been proven time and time again. And for that reason, solid one piece forgings will always be a part of sets, even the most “techy” irons sets of today still utilize them in short irons.

[apsp_1]

1 hour ago, Canthelion said:

These look terrible, looks just like an old t-zoid. Next thing you know fanny packs and pit viper sunglasses will be back in style. 

Hate to tell ya, but both of those have been in style this summer 😅

I agree though, i'm not the biggest fan of these compared to the OG Z-Forged but if they truly perform better then I'll have to at least demo them.

[mngolfer7]

1 hour ago, Red4282 said:

But from an 8 iron (~35*) through wedges, there isnt much tech can do. This has been proven time and time again. And for that reason, solid one piece forgings will always be a part of sets, even the most “techy” irons sets of today still utilize them in short irons.

I think the emergence and growing popularity of the Glide wedges and even set gap wedges with the i210 on tour speak to a change in that dynamic.

[krs0ne]

not bad

[Red4282]

1 hour ago, mngolfer7 said:

I think the emergence and growing popularity of the Glide wedges and even set gap wedges with the i210 on tour speak to a change in that dynamic.

No thanks, ill take a solid forged blade over a muffled casting any day

[TravAz]

I gamed T-zoid Trues in 1997 and they were too much club for my game then - thinking about making the same mistake with these. 😍

[golfinbrad]

6 hours ago, TravAz said:

I gamed T-zoid Trues in 1997 and they were too much club for my game then - thinking about making the same mistake with these. 😍

I recently hit the current Z Forged and was surprised how easy they were to hit.  Not as demanding as other blades.  Giving serious thought to giving them a go.  I'm sure they will be discounted soon.

[Gary Gutful]

1 hour ago, golfinbrad said:

I recently hit the current Z Forged and was surprised how easy they were to hit.  Not as demanding as other blades.  Giving serious thought to giving them a go.  I'm sure they will be discounted soon.

I still think the 945s are the best blade they've produced.