Versa Jailbird

[Peter_b]

as armlock please

 

[JungleJimbo]

Something’s cooking…

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[Golfingfanatic]

28 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

Something’s cooking…

 

 

Both Austie and Chris no longer work for Callaway, I think. Probably more of a comment with regard to the general buzz than to an imminent release.

[Golfingfanatic]

https://worldofwunder.callawaygolf.com/the-versa-jailbird-the-putter-that-took-over-the-u-s-open/

 

This, however, sounds pretty promising. Looks like they might release something soon.

[Puttersaurus Rex]

18 hours ago, Azaggie said:

I have an original jailbird and would love to duplicate. Are these guys just extending and then weighting? I putt with a 36” putter, wonder how far I’d have to extend. Guessing reshaft to maybe 39”? 

They are using a heavier “tank” shaft that is longer.

[TheMoneyShot]

8 hours ago, stlblues31 said:

I definitely think they will rerelease the putter I am just curious if they will do so with an O-Works insert or not. 

I’m sure they will do an exact replica of what Fowler and Clark were playing, they would be silly not to at this point.  I have two tank I-works putters with the MH face and love them.  I’d add this to the family as well once it’s released. 

[bogeyczar]

I like the idea of a 38"-39" putter, never crossed my mind but it seems (at least in theory) that flow would be better in a more connected way. I'd probably spend the money on one if they release them. 

[JungleJimbo]

21 hours ago, Azaggie said:

I have an original jailbird and would love to duplicate. Are these guys just extending and then weighting? I putt with a 36” putter, wonder how far I’d have to extend. Guessing reshaft to maybe 39”? 

@Azaggie Details on the specs = have been posted earlier in this thread/ elsewhere.. Copied below, for easier reference.

 

Albeit not sure whether there's some discrepancy in the specs (i.e. 37 inches... or 39 inches?)
... or whether @easyyy's summary (in @atursky's thread) = the final spec for Rickie Fowler's putter

 

(Note1: @easyyy's explainer "At least those were his specs about a month and a half ago. Straight from Joe Toulon.").

(Note2:  The "It started with..." preface in J.Wunder's write-up).
 

Callaway/Johnny Wunder: "It started with... 37-inch VERSA JailBird with a 17-inch grip" (https://worldofwunder.callawaygolf.com/the-versa-jailbird-the-putter-that-took-over-the-u-s-open/)

 

...Edit:  I re-read the Callaway article and noted the following:

 

What’s with the model that the leaders at the U.S. Open were using?

Odyssey Performance Rep Cody Hale built the two putters in question, and this is what he had to say:

“Both players are using a very similar Versa Jailbird. The longer, counterbalanced version seems to help players swing the putter more freely and reduce some of the stroke manipulations. The feedback we continually receive is that the putter feels very stable, like it’s “swinging itself,” which creates a lot of confidence to hole those short to mid-range putts.”

 

Player A (Top 5)
Versa Jailbird w / MH Insert
Tank Steel Double Bend Shaft
38 5/8” eog / 2* / 70.75* / 631.7g
SuperStroke Zenergy 17” 3.0

 

Player B (U.S Open Champ)
Versa Jailbird w / MH Insert
Tank Steel Double Bend Shaft
39” eog / 2* / 70* / 636.7g
SuperStroke Zenergy 17” 3.0

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[Mike_C]

I tried the #7 version of this putter several years ago, 38 inches I believe.  Made everything on the practice green, but never could get those results on the course......  Maybe the magic is the Jailbird shape. 

[LoopySwing13]

1 hour ago, bogeyczar said:

I like the idea of a 38"-39" putter, never crossed my mind but it seems (at least in theory) that flow would be better in a more connected way. I'd probably spend the money on one if they release them. 

My buddy did this with a PXG blade double bend and loves it. I think he plays his at 37/37.5 but same theory. He has no idea about the club specs just what worked well at his fit lol. 
 

As someone who has long experimented with putters, I like anything that leaves a bit more flex/softness in the elbows to allow free flow.
 

 

[66Corvette]

Do Ricky and Wyndam use a countercore weight in their putter grips, and if so, what weight  do they use?

[tatertot]

On 6/16/2023 at 9:06 PM, Jeffinplano said:

I called odyssey..they are noncommittal

I love this ... who did you call, the VP of research? Marketing? Who did you expect to talk to? Did you expect the $14 an hour customer rep at the call center was going to fill you in on the minute-by-minute discussions goings on in the board room?

Edited June 20, 2023 by tatertot

[tatertot]

4 hours ago, bogeyczar said:

I like the idea of a 38"-39" putter, never crossed my mind but it seems (at least in theory) that flow would be better in a more connected way. I'd probably spend the money on one if they release them. 

Yeah, because you could never reshaft a putter.

[williaza]

24 minutes ago, 66Corvette said:

Do Ricky and Wyndam use a countercore weight in their putter grips, and if so, what weight  do they use?

I don’t think that model has a counter core port it’s just a very heavy grip 

[bradenw]

The Rickie effect is crazy!!! 

[Jeffinplano]

13 hours ago, tatertot said:

I love this ... who did you call, the VP of research? Marketing? Who did you expect to talk to? Did you expect the $14 an hour customer rep at the call center was going to fill you in on the minute-by-minute discussions goings on in the board room?

It was actually Johnny Wunder. I got hold of him via YouTube and talked for a few minutes...

[JungleJimbo]

 

 

[CDLgolf]

My wife has one of these putters and won't let me put it on ebay. I think we could triple our money or more. Lol.

[TheMoneyShot]

Wonder what the new price point will be for these when Cally releases them again? 

[dabohammer]

I had a counterbalance ping insert anser 39" with a extra long SS flatso grip. I gamed that ugly beast for years and swore by it. I might have to go take it back out of my buddy's garage

[jeffrey r]

Don’t forget about the White Hot Pro Havok.  Quite similar to the Jailbird, and might be able to still snag one cheap if people haven’t caught on yet.  

 

Must be a heavy head, because mine swing-weighted like E-6 or something like that with the stock grip at 35”.  I put a $20 Winn 15” heavy grip on, and it is obviously a stable and forgiving putter.

 

IMHO, you don’t really need to go 38” or so like Ricky and Wyndham.  If you generally putt at say 34”, even 35” with CB will give you that longer putter feel with some counter-balancing.  YMMV.

 

 

[the bishop]

Just looking at the Traveler's pics and now Jimmy Walker's trying a Jailbird.

[MattUtah]

3 hours ago, jeffrey r said:

Don’t forget about the White Hot Pro Havok.  Quite similar to the Jailbird, and might be able to still snag one cheap if people haven’t caught on yet.  

 

Must be a heavy head, because mine swing-weighted like E-6 or something like that with the stock grip at 35”.  I put a $20 Winn 15” heavy grip on, and it is obviously a stable and forgiving putter.

 

IMHO, you don’t really need to go 38” or so like Ricky and Wyndham.  If you generally putt at say 34”, even 35” with CB will give you that longer putter feel with some counter-balancing.  YMMV.

 

 

The Havok was awesome, wish I still had mine. It did make a bad ting sound but it was so stable. 
 

The OG 7 bird is a lot like it with better sound but not as stable because it’s a lot smaller. The 7 bird is a phenomenal design that never caught on. You can get them for $100ish new on Callaway preowned with stroke lab too. 

[jeffrey r]

1 hour ago, the bishop said:

Just looking at the Traveler's pics and now Jimmy Walker's trying a Jailbird.

 

Lol.  NGL, Rory should probably try one, as that TM he keeps going back to doesn't seem to be working (like ever)...

[MattUtah]

For anyone who wants to try a similar shape -

 

https://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/putters/putters-2022-wh-og-7-bird.html

 

 

New 35” stroke lab for $105. You get double points back today too. A lot better deal than the jailbird versa will be when it eventually gets here. 
 

 

I honestly prefer the alignment on this than the versa but that’s just me. 

[Mulliganizer]

I've never put with a jailbird before, is it that much more different than something like a o-works 7?

[TheMoneyShot]

2 hours ago, MattUtah said:

For anyone who wants to try a similar shape -

 

https://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/putters/putters-2022-wh-og-7-bird.html

 

 

New 35” stroke lab for $105. You get double points back today too. A lot better deal than the jailbird versa will be when it eventually gets here. 
 

 

I honestly prefer the alignment on this than the versa but that’s just me. 

Unfortunately, it doesn’t have the MH face. 

[JungleJimbo]

9 hours ago, the bishop said:

Just looking at the Traveler's pics and now Jimmy Walker's trying a Jailbird.

 

 

 

[TheMoneyShot]

JW just said on IG live that they may do another LE run of this putter soon. 

[SaVo_]

I worked the travelers pro am today. Just peeking at the range today on the putting green. Was funny to see many of the guys testing the jailbird build, wouldn’t be surprised if we saw at least 1 or 2 more go in play this week or the next