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2 hours ago, Valtiel said:


The problem is that same thing happens to all drivers, i've had a similar experience with a couple Titleist's (915D3 and TSi3). "Getting funky" is necessary to continue pushing for incremental performance gains, and that will inevitably involve weight saving strategies (like carbon faces) to achieve. Trust me I love the OG SIM, nothing has kicked it out yet, but insisting a company "stay behind" so to speak is a recipe for getting lapped by the competition, something TM obviously tries hard to stay ahead of.


A buddy of mine plays on the korn ferry tour. He's on his 9th head.  Two cracked in competition.  My local retailer assumes they've had over 30 cracked Stealth heads.  They all come apart the same way. The face lifts free from the chassis.

 

The ratio problems between Titleist, PING, and TM stealth drivers is completely lopsided with the latter being the main offender.  

 

 

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Titleist TSR3 15° HZRDUS

PING G430h 19° Ventus HB-8

Mizuno 241 4-P KBS Tour

Vokey SM9 50f, 54s, 60m

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On 9/3/2023 at 7:40 AM, JDSPGA said:

 

Yes. It's simply not forgiving. It's great out of the middle but compared to a TSR2 or a G430, Paradym X, it is awful on mishits. 

 

Sure, they have a lot of tour players playing them, but they hit the middle of the face a lot. 

 

Oh, that and Twist Face isn't real. It's just bulge and roll and every company has that....

stealth 2 is very forgiving idk what you're on about... twist face is definitely a real thing, not saying its revolutionary but it definitely exists... 

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Looks like the TXF video with Trottie using the new Spider Tour got taken down, guess that wasn't meant to be out there yet huh?

 

EDIT: Guess it got renamed
 

 

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 9* - Ventus Black 6S

Woods: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour 3 & 5 Wood - Ventus Black 7S

Hybrid: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour - Ventus Blue 85HYB Stiff

Irons: TaylorMade p790 & p770 Combo Set - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 50 SB - 54 SB - 58 LBV - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour DB 35"

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6 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

The milled one Scottie was playing? 

No, this is the one Fleetwood was trying/playing. 

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Callaway Paradym 9* (Kinetixx Velocity)
Tour Edge C722 3wd 
Titleist u505/Tour Edge C722 3H/Callaway Mavrik Max 5wd 
Tour Edge C722 4H

Srixon Z85 5U 
Mizuno 225 6-GW (PX IO 6.0)
Vokey SM9 54D & 60T
Odyssey Stroke Lab Tuttle or Scotty Futura X 35" (SS Pistol 1.0 w/ 50g CW)

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On 9/6/2023 at 12:56 PM, hammergolf said:

I agree, maybe a all Carbon cup face attached to a titanium chassis.


This is my guess too. Basically the inverse of Cally’s Paradym. Nobody knows how much carbon is in the Cally so the tech story gets lost. A cup face will be obvious and likely less expensive to manufacture…less total carbon than the Cally  

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1 minute ago, golfnhack said:

I could have sworn that when Stealth came out, TaylorMade stated that they would NEVER make another non-carbon face driver again. I will need to find that article.

 

From a site I cannot name.. but TM did state this

 

TaylorMade is so committed to the Carbonwood that it has said it will never make another titanium-faced driver. It’s so serious, in fact, that job titles are changing. Guys have literally had the Metalwood in their job tiles changed to Carbonwood.

"Some emotions cannot be endured with a golf club in your hand." - Bobby Jones

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I would love if they would just be able to fill 2023 orders. Ordered the 770's beginning of July, entire set is delayed 3 months, due to Project X-T 6.5, 7 Iron shaft. Looked today, just got pushed another week to Mid October ship date.

 

Anyone else experiencing this?

 

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Got the call an hour after the post that they are at Golf Galaxy awaiting pickup!!!

 

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22 hours ago, JoakesOnYou348 said:

I would love if they would just be able to fill 2023 orders. Ordered the 770's beginning of July, entire set is delayed 3 months, due to Project X-T 6.5, 7 Iron shaft. Looked today, just got pushed another week to Mid October ship date.

 

Anyone else experiencing this?

 

EDIT:

Got the call an hour after the post that they are at Golf Galaxy awaiting pickup!!!

 

not their fault if they dont have the shaft 

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The "MySpider Tour" is no longer on the TaylorMade website it seems, so I'm guessing those new Tour model putter can't be too far away?

Looking forward to seeing them

Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 9* - Ventus Black 6S

Woods: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour 3 & 5 Wood - Ventus Black 7S

Hybrid: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour - Ventus Blue 85HYB Stiff

Irons: TaylorMade p790 & p770 Combo Set - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 50 SB - 54 SB - 58 LBV - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour DB 35"

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37 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Wish they would release that milked version that Scottie was playing for awhile. 

 

Me too! I'd buy that 

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 9* - Ventus Black 6S

Woods: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour 3 & 5 Wood - Ventus Black 7S

Hybrid: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour - Ventus Blue 85HYB Stiff

Irons: TaylorMade p790 & p770 Combo Set - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 50 SB - 54 SB - 58 LBV - KBS Tour 120g Stiff

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour DB 35"

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I really hope they keep the carbon face lol

TM Qi10 (9*) | Speeder Evolution IV 661 X

TM M6 3w (15*) | HZRDUS Yellow 76 6.0

TM Stealth2+ 5w (18*) | HZRDUS Yellow 83 6.5

PXG Gen4 0311 X (20*) | HZRDUS Black 105 6.5 

PXG Gen4 0311 T (4) | DG X100

TM P730 (5-9) | DG X100 

TM MG3 (46.09, 54.13, 60.TW) | DG S300 

TM TP Soto CB

Ball: Taylormade TP5x 

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On 9/11/2023 at 2:42 PM, JoakesOnYou348 said:

I would love if they would just be able to fill 2023 orders. Ordered the 770's beginning of July, entire set is delayed 3 months, due to Project X-T 6.5, 7 Iron shaft. Looked today, just got pushed another week to Mid October ship date.

 

Anyone else experiencing this?

 

EDIT:

Got the call an hour after the post that they are at Golf Galaxy awaiting pickup!!!

 

 

My MG4 TW say it won't ship till NEW YEAR!!!   MG4 56 with S400 Tour Issued.....

 

The Head was the item with the delayed date....

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Taylormade QI10LS 10.5 (@9.5) Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6S (Testing Velocore + 6S)
Taylormade Stealth 2+ 15 (@14.50) Fujikura Motore Speeder 8.1S Tipped .5"
Callaway Apex "21" 19/3H Aldila Rogue Black TS95 Tipped .5"
Taylormade SLDR 4i DGSLS300S
Taylormade P750 7-PW P770 5i-6i DG AMT White S300
Taylormade MG2 52 DGTIS400, MG4TW 56/12 DGTIS400, & Tour Issued MG3 Hi Toe 60/09 DGTIS200 115
Scotty Cameron TeI3 Long Neck Newport 2 34" (34")
Bridgestone Tour B XS (Testing New TP5x)

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On 9/9/2023 at 9:16 PM, JadenGolfWRX12 said:

stealth 2 is very forgiving idk what you're on about... twist face is definitely a real thing, not saying its revolutionary but it definitely exists... 

 

Completely agree.  I hit the Stealth 2 (plus) very well and found it extremely trustworthy in the flight expectations.  It's the fragility of the head that is killing the product.  My retail manager friend says they aren't even selling Stealth drivers at any meaningful rate.  It's the slow part of the season but he says most driver buyers are Titleist and PING.

 

I know it's petty but enough of the black and red.  Go back to blue/grey/chalk for the next colorway - if for no other reason but it reminds us of the best and most reliable TM drivers in the last 10 years, the SIM line. (M2 was good too)

TItleist TSR3 9° HZRDUS

Titleist TSR3 15° HZRDUS

PING G430h 19° Ventus HB-8

Mizuno 241 4-P KBS Tour

Vokey SM9 50f, 54s, 60m

L.A.B. Link.1

 

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Durability definitely a problem. On my 3rd stealth head already. Bought a sim for backup and anytime I want to swing hard in practice

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Driver - Stealth+ 8.0 | Hzrdus Smoke Green PVD 60TX

3W - TSR2+ 14.5 | Ventus TR Black 8X

19* Callaway UW | Ventus Black 10X

4-P Mizuno 243 | DG X100

50, 54, 60 - Ping Glide 4.0 | Stock Wedge Shaft Z115

Putter - Evnroll Midlock ER11vx with plumbers neck

Ball - Titleist ProV1

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