Get your arm swing and pivot in sync

[fearlessgolfer1]

Great article, DC!
Those who know you personally and many of your students already know that you have a knack on hitting that sweet spot to fix flaws easily, and this is no exception. Great insight and much thanks!

[Finbarr Saunders]

I'm sorry for being dumb but i have to ask. When doing the drill, on the back swing as you have set out with the wrists fully set and the hands hip high, should part of the goal be to keep both arms poker straight. The feel i get when i force the trail arm straight its like im pulling my left arm out of its socket, or is it ok to have a very soft bend in the trail arm. I know this isn't the aim of this drill but i just want to do it properly

[iteachgolf]

[quote name='Finbarr Saunders' timestamp='1361045791' post='6440945']
I'm sorry for being dumb but i have to ask. When doing the drill, on the back swing as you have set out with the wrists fully set and the hands hip high, should part of the goal be to keep both arms poker straight. The feel i get when i force the trail arm straight its like im pulling my left arm out of its socket, or is it ok to have a very soft bend in the trail arm. I know this isn't the aim of this drill but i just want to do it properly
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Will feel straight. If it bends slightly so be it. It's a drill that's a motion not static position. If arm swing is short enough rear arm should be straight. As it becomes chest high and longer the trailing arm has to bend.

[sheldonjhacker]

Iteach...this is SO helpful...thanks from all of us. Can you please post a video of the correct way to do the drill...a bit hard to understand by just reading. Many thanks!

[Finbarr Saunders]

[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1361046585' post='6440999']
[quote name='Finbarr Saunders' timestamp='1361045791' post='6440945']
I'm sorry for being dumb but i have to ask. When doing the drill, on the back swing as you have set out with the wrists fully set and the hands hip high, should part of the goal be to keep both arms poker straight. The feel i get when i force the trail arm straight its like im pulling my left arm out of its socket, or is it ok to have a very soft bend in the trail arm. I know this isn't the aim of this drill but i just want to do it properly
[/quote]
Will feel straight. If it bends slightly so be it. It's a drill that's a motion not static position. If arm swing is short enough rear arm should be straight. As it becomes chest high and longer the trailing arm has to bend.
[/quote]

Got it, thanks for taking the time

[J13]

Dan great article my man. It sounds as if this would be a good drill for me to work on to get some more width and keep my hips opening on the backswing. Good stuff

[isaacbm]

Seems like this could help me as per our conversation, no??

Have to give it a go

[Antz]

Great article Dan. Very timely as I have been struggling with pushed shots due to arms getting too slow...
Thanks

[Daniel Eason]

This is a good article but as you show in the example in the picture how do you avoid moving the head away from over the ball...? This is my problem, I am building flexibility but not using it to my advantage by turning too much around not up with more (what look like) restricted shoulders.

[iteachgolf]

[quote name='Daniel Eason' timestamp='1361276614' post='6457075']
This is a good article but as you show in the example in the picture how do you avoid moving the head away from over the ball...? This is my problem, I am building flexibility but not using it to my advantage by turning too much around not up with more (what look like) restricted shoulders.
[/quote]
Not sure I understand. Why are you trying to restrict your shoulders? The turn is responding to the swinging of the arms. If the arms are extended, and therefore must be in front of you, you have no choice but to turn. The "up" happens because you are bent over. So shoulders turn on a tilted plane

[juststeve]

Iteach wrote "The turn is responding to the swinging of the arms. If the arms are extended, and therefore must be in front of you, you have no choice but to turn. The "up" happens because you are bent over. So shoulders turn on a tilted plane" which everyone should remember. I would again suggest that so long as your turn is a response to the arm swing they will be in synch.

Steve

[SC Golfer]

[left]This is a great drill for my swing issues. I have been using this to start my practice the last couple of times to the range and my ball strikin has improved dramaticaly along with swing being much more compact and repeatable.[/left]

[left]Thank you.[/left]

[mholmstrom]

Great Post Dan. You refer to two things that happen when the arms move too slowly. Can you please explain what types of shots usually result from this - and also what types of shots result when the arms move too fast. For me, when I hit a big push, it feels like my arms are left behind,...moving too slow. And when I'm hooking, it often feels like im all arms and late pivot. Just want to make sure i'm connecting the dot's properly here. Thanks!

[HappyGolf]

Dan I have a question pertaining to this 9-3 type drill.....

At P3 what kind of degree inside should the left arm be? 0? 10? 20? 30? ....what would you 'recommend'?

Thanks in adv......

[iteachgolf]

Will depend on player but I'd guess 20ish, hands in front of right peck just right of sternum would be good reference point.

[HappyGolf]

Thanks

How about the equivalent position (left arm parallel to the ground) on the follow thru? would the right arm be deeper as the pivot/turn has taken the left shoulder/torso more left?

Thanks in adv... (again!) LOL

[iteachgolf]

Should close to mirror image of other side. If arms are literally straight it will be a bit more in on both sides

[ramradhakri]

Is there a picture that shows what it means to "[color=#333333]set/c0ck the club fully" at the start? Is this similar to the first step in the Faldo drill?[/color]

[iteachgolf]

You don't set it at the start. It's fully set by hip high. Simply bend right wrist back fully

[ramradhakri]

[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1365458801' post='6788273']
You don't set it at the start. It's fully set by hip high. Simply bend right wrist back fully
[/quote]

Thanks! I will give this a shot and hope it improves my ball striking.

[joeunc]

sounds like an impact ball/nerf ball/poof ball would really help this drill out also, cause if you arms bend you drop the ball instant feedbak.
Great article Dan!

[DannyG]

[quote name='sheldonjhacker' timestamp='1361046860' post='6441015']
Iteach...this is SO helpful...thanks from all of us. Can you please post a video of the correct way to do the drill...a bit hard to understand by just reading. Many thanks!
[/quote]

I would like to second this request for a video.

[Hawkeye77]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vm2YEB2WJY&sns=em

Is this video a good representation?

[iteachgolf]

Not a bad one. I might be able to film something in the next few days depending on weather and schedule

[Hawkeye77]

That would be fantastic. A DTL would be nice as well, would be interesting to see it from that angle (and fries and a frosty!).

[Finbarr Saunders]

[quote name='HAWKEYE77' timestamp='1365725322' post='6814811']
[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vm2YEB2WJY&sns=em[/media]

Is this video a good representation?
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I would have thought that drill was almost the opposite, but I might have interpreted Dans one incorrectly

[Finbarr Saunders]

[quote name='Finbarr Saunders' timestamp='1365730084' post='6815569']
[quote name='HAWKEYE77' timestamp='1365725322' post='6814811']
[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vm2YEB2WJY&sns=em[/media]

Is this video a good representation?
[/quote]
I would have thought that drill was almost the opposite, but I might have interpreted Dans one incorrectly
[/quote] "[color="#333333"]The body will pivot back and through, but it will be doing so as a reaction to the arms swinging" [/color]

[HateTheHighDraw]

Yea but he's not setting the wrists in that video like the main post says to

[aimleft]

I beed working on the drill/feeling and I am suprised to find how mush you have to fight to get to the hip high position (with wrist set) in the follow through. It gets really hard to keep things really synched up with long irons and woods. Looking foward to a DC vid to see if I have the correct interpretation.

[CSagan]

[quote name='aimleft' timestamp='1365737751' post='6816625']
I beed working on the drill/feeling and I am suprised to find how mush you have to fight to get to the hip high position (with wrist set) in the follow through. It gets really hard to keep things really synched up with long irons and woods. Looking foward to a DC vid to see if I have the correct interpretation.
[/quote]

You're not supposed to hold the wrist set to hip high on the follow through. Just swing your arms back and through while keeping them straight and set the wrist on the backswing.