SWANRY30 WITB - 2014 FINALIZED?

[swanry30]

With the 913 I think I would go 7.2ts as it matches the head better for me . Nike is a toss up 6.3 or 7.2/3ts.

[JJK947]

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With the 913 I think I would go 7.2ts as it matches the head better for me . Nike is a toss up 6.3 or 7.2/3ts.
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D3 7.5 with 7.2 TS was one of the best combo's I've hit but it got edged out by the RFE for me. Interesting no 6.2 TS, too butt stiff? I think it is the stiffest butt out of the .2's and .3s right?

[scratchswinger]

I really have a hard time with the 7.2, it just feels heavy and dead to me, the 6.2 feels alive and stable. It's strange because I prefer the heavier 8.2 in my 3 wood.

[swanry30]

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[quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1367723798' post='6972344']
With the 913 I think I would go 7.2ts as it matches the head better for me . Nike is a toss up 6.3 or 7.2/3ts.
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D3 7.5 with 7.2 TS was one of the best combo's I've hit but it got edged out by the RFE for me. Interesting no 6.2 TS, too butt stiff? I think it is the stiffest butt out of the .2's and .3s right?
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I love the 6.2ts - in fact still have one . Selling the 7.5 ?

[JJK947]

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I really have a hard time with the 7.2, it just feels heavy and dead to me, the 6.2 feels alive and stable. It's strange because I prefer the heavier 8.2 in my 3 wood.
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I agree to some extent. Having hit it quite a bit in my 913 I can say that for me the performance is a lot closer to the 6.2 than the feel is for me. I really like the results but I feel like I am making the shaft work more in with the 6.2, that's improving my perception of the club/shaft.


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[size=4]I love the 6.2ts - in fact still have one [/size] [size=4]. Selling the 7.5 ?[/size]
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Yeah, the 7.5 is gone. RFE just edged it out but my needs in a driver a little different than most of you guys. I'll be updating with my thoughts in my thread from hitting them both side by side for 27+ holes and 3-4 range sessions. Keeping my 7.2 TS from the 913 though, I think it will make a great 3 wood shaft are you sticking with that in your Stage 2?

[scratchswinger]

JJ- what 3 wood for the 7.2?

[JJK947]

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JJ- what 3 wood for the 7.2?
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I've got a 14.5* 3deep coming, just couldn't resist. I'm a sucker for the deep faces. [size=4] [/size]

I'm expecting that it will work out but if it's not a realistic option for me off the deck when needed I will explore other options. FD, RFE and XHP are the top contenders for potential replacement. I've always been comfortable with the performance of the Titleists in the past (906F2, 904F). I could throw the stage 2 in there but I'm not huge on the graphics and feel, same deal with XTD. I'm still kicking myself over selling the 8.2 TS I had last year especially after reading your review/results in the titleist fitting thread.

I've pretty much eliminated the Nike stuff even though it's really good. I'm with you and Pure in that respect, there are other better looking/feeling clubs that do the same thing for me.

[scratchswinger]

I'll be interested to hear about your results with the 3Deep. I hit my 3 wood primarily off the tee, so it peeks my interest. I am concerned that it might go too far, I want to try one though.

[ksavy17]

any updates??

[swanry30]

[quote name='ksavy17' timestamp='1368466555' post='7025656']
any updates??
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none as of right now. my friend's nike covert performance / 7.2ts came in and it's money. with the covert tour head it should give the r1 v2 a good run.

my next step may get interesting - as it will force me into selling some equipment. the ansers will be my wet weather/winter clubs - but with the firmer ground conditions i want something with a smaller sole. the rbt in all reality are pretty damn good. a tweener set of irons. not too big not too small. the rbt three iron is crazy good off the tee. i am also finding out what kind of swing or strike you have to put on these clubs to get the proper feedback. after saying that - i'm still searching!

the for sures:

GOLFPRIDE Z CORD - best grip i have ever used.
MOTORE SPEEDER 6.3TS - the best 60g weight class shaft i have ever used.

after this it is open game!

[ksavy17]

love the for sures, especially the z cord grip. Its everything I want in a grip. I hope to see some players clubs in that bag, specifically some covert stuff. Covert tour with tour spec .2 is probably the best driver combo I have ever had

[JJK947]

You NEED to spill the beans on your secret formula for the X100's. Just picked up a set to go in my old TP MB's from 2006, feel was more important in these so that left C taper and PX out of the mix. I am debating going straight in, hardstepping once or possible tipping as much as the bore will allow as an experiment. Would love to know what this secret X100 trick is!

[DNice26]

You should add in the MP64s......simply awesome irons.

Question: have you ever tried the kiyoshi white 60g? If so, could you compare it to the 6.3?

PS: Z Cords are fantastic.

[swanry30]

[quote name='JJK947' timestamp='1368469077' post='7026000']
You NEED to spill the beans on your secret formula for the X100's. Just picked up a set to go in my old TP MB's from 2006, feel was more important in these so that left C taper and PX out of the mix. I am debating going straight in, hardstepping once or possible tipping as much as the bore will allow as an experiment. Would love to know what this secret X100 trick is!
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i will PM you later today. no tipping, hardstepping... a different secret.

[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1368469078' post='7026002']
You should add in the MP64s......simply awesome irons.

Question: have you ever tried the kiyoshi white 60g? If so, could you compare it to the 6.3?

PS: Z Cords are fantastic.
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i will put the mp64 on the list!

i have hit the KIYOSHI WHITE - testing it in three different heads. the KW will launch higher, flight higher, and spin ever so slightly more than the .3TS. the profile, as i have mentioned before on the KW, is "unibend". you don't feel what part of the shaft is loading - the entire shaft is loading. with the .3TS you feel a section load. if the .2TS feels too firm in the butt section and you want the same results, the .3TS is perfect. the best direction comparison is the KW60 (which is actually in the 70's) to the BB7.

[DNice26]

Wow, the "unibend" concept is SPOT ON. I have the kiyoshi white now and I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Great description. It is a stout shaft for sure. Interesting, so I'll stay away from the .3 TS because I'm not quite getting the launch and spin out of the KW unless I step on it. I've been jumping back and forth between the kai'li 70X and the KW 60g in stiff. The KW feels solid and more "uniflex" like, as you described. Thinking about trying an AD DI.

The 64s are incredible.

Last quick question: have you switched away form the C-Tapers? I know you were a huge fan of them when they came out.....just wondering why you switched? Finally, can you tell me the secret?...lol. Cheers.

[swanry30]

[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1368473904' post='7026596']
Wow, the "unibend" concept is SPOT ON. I have the kiyoshi white now and I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Great description. It is a stout shaft for sure. Interesting, so I'll stay away from the .3 TS because I'm not quite getting the launch and spin out of the KW unless I step on it. I've been jumping back and forth between the kai'li 70X and the KW 60g in stiff. The KW feels solid and more "uniflex" like, as you described. Thinking about trying an AD DI.

The 64s are incredible.

Last quick question: have you switched away form the C-Tapers? I know you were a huge fan of them when they came out.....just wondering why you switched? Finally, can you tell me the secret?...lol. Cheers.
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still playing the ctapers and LOVE them. i do wish they balanced the shaft weight better, however, they work.

[Dizz]

Glad I listened to your suggestion on the 6.3 because I absolutely love the shaft.

[PingDrv00]

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[quote name='ksavy17' timestamp='1368466555' post='7025656']
any updates??
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none as of right now. my friend's nike covert performance / 7.2ts came in and it's money. with the covert tour head it should give the r1 v2 a good run.

my next step may get interesting - as it will force me into selling some equipment. the ansers will be my wet weather/winter clubs - but with the firmer ground conditions i want something with a smaller sole. the rbt in all reality are pretty damn good. a tweener set of irons. not too big not too small. the rbt three iron is crazy good off the tee. i am also finding out what kind of swing or strike you have to put on these clubs to get the proper feedback. after saying that - i'm still searching!

the for sures:

GOLFPRIDE Z CORD - best grip i have ever used.
MOTORE SPEEDER 6.3TS - the best 60g weight class shaft i have ever used.

after this it is open game!
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How would you compare the Covert Performance versus the Tour head? I have been going back and forth over which one to try. I am currently gaming the 913d3.

[swanry30]

[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1368487926' post='7028196']
Glad I listened to your suggestion on the 6.3 because I absolutely love the shaft.
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it's very good! would you mind sharing your comparison to the .2ts - curious to how describe the difference. also - did you find the spin/launch/etc... to be far off?

regardless of what trackman said - the 6.3TS on the course is just crazy good, besting our the 6.2TS easily. i personally love the 7.2TS for a driver shaft - but why when the 6.3TS gives me everything i need?

[swanry30]

[quote name='PingDrv00' timestamp='1368488456' post='7028258']
[quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1368468033' post='7025852']
[quote name='ksavy17' timestamp='1368466555' post='7025656']
any updates??
[/quote]

none as of right now. my friend's nike covert performance / 7.2ts came in and it's money. with the covert tour head it should give the r1 v2 a good run.

my next step may get interesting - as it will force me into selling some equipment. the ansers will be my wet weather/winter clubs - but with the firmer ground conditions i want something with a smaller sole. the rbt in all reality are pretty damn good. a tweener set of irons. not too big not too small. the rbt three iron is crazy good off the tee. i am also finding out what kind of swing or strike you have to put on these clubs to get the proper feedback. after saying that - i'm still searching!

the for sures:

GOLFPRIDE Z CORD - best grip i have ever used.
MOTORE SPEEDER 6.3TS - the best 60g weight class shaft i have ever used.

after this it is open game!
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How would you compare the Covert Performance versus the Tour head? I have been going back and forth over which one to try. I am currently gaming the 913d3.
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if you are coming from the 913d3 - it is easy to make a comparison to the nike line, in they have two models that are similar to the titleist line. for me regardless of what titleist says, i hit the d3 lower with less spin. i like the forgiveness of the d2, but i hit the d3 straight enough and the lower spin/flight/launch separate it easily from the d2. the performance head is great, low spin, nice shape, forgiving, decent flight. i would have to play it at 8.5. unlike titleist where i would play the 7.5 in both d2/d3 - the nike tour head would potentially have me go up to 9.5 - or if i wanted an even lower flight keep it at 8.5. three people i have seen get fit into the covert tour had to go up two degrees from the performance head to get the numbers in check.

my recommendation is the covert tour head and consider going up in loft!

[Dizz]

For me there is little to no difference on TrackMan. Slightly higher launch and spin but nothing crazy.

[swanry30]

[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1368570578' post='7035602']
For me there is little to no difference on TrackMan. Slightly higher launch and spin but nothing crazy.
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found the same results. negligible... on the course it has really allowed me to properly load the club and be patient with the transition a little longer than with the .2TS.

[J13]

well I will have a 7.2TS VS 6.3TS shortly. Have to say the 7.2TS loads like a champ for me so the 6.3 has it's work cut out for it.

[Dizz]

I think if both are tipped properly then they'll be close. I know James Hahn is using .3 Tour Spec series now after using .2 Tour Spec last year. He's a 170-175 ball speed guy so the shaft can definitely handle some speed.

This shaft is still plenty low spin IMO... I played 9 last night and it was very flat hitting. I was getting tons of roll in Ohio. I was screwing around on TrackMan again today and my good ones were VERY good. Launch was 13-14 and 2200-2600 so still a pretty low spin shaft by all accounts... I didn't compare anything else because I enjoy this shaft so much.

[J13]

Very good to hear JW. Didn't know Hahn was using it but not surprising. So many tour guys using one speeder shaft or another.

[Pure745]

[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1368577026' post='7036230']
I think if both are tipped properly then they'll be close. I know James Hahn is using .3 Tour Spec series now after using .2 Tour Spec last year. He's a 170-175 ball speed guy so the shaft can definitely handle some speed.

This shaft is still plenty low spin IMO... I played 9 last night and it was very flat hitting. I was getting tons of roll in Ohio. I was screwing around on TrackMan again today and my good ones were VERY good. Launch was 13-14 and 2200-2600 so still a pretty low spin shaft by all accounts... I didn't compare anything else because I enjoy this shaft so much.
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Tipping can bring these two pretty close. I think differences are much more visible on the course and not on the Trackman, they were for me at least. Both are just really good!

[Dizz]

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[quote name='J.W.' timestamp='1368577026' post='7036230']
I think if both are tipped properly then they'll be close. I know James Hahn is using .3 Tour Spec series now after using .2 Tour Spec last year. He's a 170-175 ball speed guy so the shaft can definitely handle some speed.

This shaft is still plenty low spin IMO... I played 9 last night and it was very flat hitting. I was getting tons of roll in Ohio. I was screwing around on TrackMan again today and my good ones were VERY good. Launch was 13-14 and 2200-2600 so still a pretty low spin shaft by all accounts... I didn't compare anything else because I enjoy this shaft so much.
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Tipping can bring these two pretty close. I think differences are much more visible on the course and not on the Trackman, they were for me at least. Both are just really good!
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Interesting... ultimately the course it really all that does matter. I went out to my course and played 3 holes where I was hitting 3 balls off each tee with both shafts and the same head as well as setting. I hit the 6.3 about 10 yards further than the 7.2 on course and I picked three very flat holes. I definitely do not have the speed that you do though and I'm not a very high spin player anyway. I will overspin some shafts but I don't crazy overspin shafts like DI or BB either.

[Pure745]

^^ Yeah, for me, it tested them side by side in the R1 V2. The 7.2 was much more boring and flat, the dispersion on misses had much less sidespin. The .3 tipped, had a much higher launch angle with very low spin (a really cool ball flight btw) which I liked, but it spun noticeably more for me on mishits. The D3 w/ 7.2 actually produces a similar launch to the .3 flight I'm talking about, but a touch lower and much more consistant. If I had a lower launching and spinning head than the D3, I would go .3 tipped because I do think it feels a little better (and it's blue)

[PingDrv00]

Thanks for the insight, I am going to give the Tour head a try next time out.

[Rosco1216]

I had a chance to hit a friends 6.3X tipped 1/2" with a harrison shotmaker in my Anser head and didn't find it as appealing as I was hoping for. Granted I prefer a heavier shaft and knew the shaft would be a little light and on the weaker end for me so I didn't go all out on it but really thought this would give me a good idea of the shaft performace before pulling the trigger. IMO opinion it felt loose, dispersion and side spin were the main concerns. I ended up going with an 8.2X TS and couldn't be happier(unless it was blue like the .3"). The .2 DEFINITELY tightens dispersion and side spin considerably. What I have found now after playing with this combo for a little while is that when compared to other "low lauch/spin" shafts, my overall top distance on perfectly struck straight balls or baby draws is about the same but the BEST part is that now when I hit to my "go-to" cut shot I have gained much much more control and 25-35 yards in distance simply because I can play a fade with it and still keep back spin easily in the 2500-2800 range. Also I maybe only use 10-15 yards when hitting straight into a good breeze.