Updates on TaylorMade's TP Line Irons/Woods Revival? (merged)

[Michael79]

Also a few new shafts will be offered for tp line as well making for a bigger selection.

[BirdieBob]

lol.......when will we know for sure?

[phelps22]

[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383661557' post='8104342']
Also a few new shafts will be offered for tp line as well making for a bigger selection.
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They did update their tp shaft selection not too long ago. Not sure how many they added but I do know they have added the Aldila Tour Blue/Green in both 65gr and 75gr.

[Chilli9880]

Guys, like all this "insider" info. But I'm sorry, I can't really believe any of it until I see it in my hands or at least on their website. And even then, the website doesn't give all of the info.

I will say, if the release of the 430 head is mid-December AND there will be multiple TP shafts to choose from, this will make me very happy. With the release/announcement, will that expansion of TP Shafts also apply to multiple options for the Fairways & Hybrids?

[bph7]

[quote name='Chilli9880' timestamp='1383664667' post='8104534']
Guys, like all this "insider" info. But I'm sorry, I can't really believe any of it until I see it in my hands or at least on their website. And even then, the website doesn't give all of the info.

[b]I will say, if the release of the 430 head is mid-December [/b]AND there will be multiple TP shafts to choose from, this will make me very happy. With the release/announcement, will that expansion of TP Shafts also apply to multiple options for the Fairways & Hybrids?
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You can believe it or not, but I bet you will be happy.

[JC671]

Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?

[bph7]

[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
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With the original sldr, from Golfsmith at least, it costs $206 OVER THE TP PRICE to put in a 7.2 tour spec. So, you could get the TP version with the "stock" speeder TS 6.3 for $500, but it would be $706 for the 7.2 Based on that, I would not anticipate the 7.2 or 7.3 all of a sudden being no upcharge, but who knows.

[Michael79]

[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
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Not sure for the driver at this point but the 8.3 ts and 9.3 ts are stock offerings in the fairway and hybrid. My assumption is the 7.3 ts can be selected as well for no additional charge in the SLDR line...

[bph7]

[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383666741' post='8104694']
[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
[/quote]


Not sure for the driver at this point but the 8.3 ts and 9.3 ts are stock offerings in the fairway and hybrid. [b]My assumption is the 7.3 ts can be selected as well for no additional charge in the SLDR line...[/b]
[/quote]

At least for the current SLDR line, this assumption is incorrect. TMAG doesn't even offer the 7.3 as a "custom option" shaft on their website. Therefore, if that's the shaft you want, you would probably have to get it independently (and thus get little or no discount). Also, remember that the 6.3, 8.3, and 9.3 are the stock TMAG graphics TP shafts. THESE are where you can get good value buying TP. Just because a 7.3 on the open market would be the same price as an 8.3, does mean that a "real deal Fuji graphics" 7.3 (which is what it would have to be) could be freely substituted for the TMAG graphics 8.3. Finally, just to be clear, I am not trying to get into the whole "read deal/OEM graphics" shaft debate. I believe that the factory graphics TP shafts are the same as the OEM graphics shafts, but, the fact remains that the TMAG graphics TP shafts go a lot cheaper relatively then the identical Fuji graphics shaft.

[ZJohnson]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1383656478' post='8104086']
[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1383626430' post='8103558']
The 430's cg has been moved even closer the face if that answers your questions. And I am not 100% sure but I heard mid Dec for the 430.
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I am hearing 12/13/13 for the 430cc release date. Bad news though, the TP logo will most likely not be on the retail production model. Same deal as the TP irons.
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The head that I took a pic of was not stamped with a "T" Not sure if that matters though.

[Michael79]

[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1383667514' post='8104750']
[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383666741' post='8104694']
[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
[/quote]


Not sure for the driver at this point but the 8.3 ts and 9.3 ts are stock offerings in the fairway and hybrid. [b]My assumption is the 7.3 ts can be selected as well for no additional charge in the SLDR line...[/b]
[/quote]

At least for the current SLDR line, this assumption is incorrect. TMAG doesn't even offer the 7.3 as a "custom option" shaft on their website. Therefore, if that's the shaft you want, you would probably have to get it independently (and thus get little or no discount). Also, remember that the 6.3, 8.3, and 9.3 are the stock TMAG graphics TP shafts. THESE are where you can get good value buying TP. Just because a 7.3 on the open market would be the same price as an 8.3, does mean that a "real deal Fuji graphics" 7.3 (which is what it would have to be) could be freely substituted for the TMAG graphics 8.3. Finally, just to be clear, I am not trying to get into the whole "read deal/OEM graphics" shaft debate. I believe that the factory graphics TP shafts are the same as the OEM graphics shafts, but, the fact remains that the TMAG graphics TP shafts go a lot cheaper relatively then the identical Fuji graphics shaft.
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Per my spec sheet for 2014 these will be on the tp options list as well as the 7.3. Things always could change but I am basing this off of the info I have at the moment.

[bph7]

[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383676122' post='8105468']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1383667514' post='8104750']
[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383666741' post='8104694']
[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
[/quote]


Not sure for the driver at this point but the 8.3 ts and 9.3 ts are stock offerings in the fairway and hybrid. [b]My assumption is the 7.3 ts can be selected as well for no additional charge in the SLDR line...[/b]
[/quote]

At least for the current SLDR line, this assumption is incorrect. TMAG doesn't even offer the 7.3 as a "custom option" shaft on their website. Therefore, if that's the shaft you want, you would probably have to get it independently (and thus get little or no discount). Also, remember that the 6.3, 8.3, and 9.3 are the stock TMAG graphics TP shafts. THESE are where you can get good value buying TP. Just because a 7.3 on the open market would be the same price as an 8.3, does mean that a "real deal Fuji graphics" 7.3 (which is what it would have to be) could be freely substituted for the TMAG graphics 8.3. Finally, just to be clear, I am not trying to get into the whole "read deal/OEM graphics" shaft debate. I believe that the factory graphics TP shafts are the same as the OEM graphics shafts, but, the fact remains that the TMAG graphics TP shafts go a lot cheaper relatively then the identical Fuji graphics shaft.
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Per my spec sheet for 2014 these will be on the tp options list as well as the 7.3. Things always could change but I am basing this off of the info I have at the moment.
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Didn't know you had a spec sheet... Would love to get more info if you have it. For one, What are the "stock" tp options for the 430? In other words, what shafts can you get for just the standard tp upgrade price?

[JC671]

[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1383676929' post='8105546']
[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383676122' post='8105468']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1383667514' post='8104750']
[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383666741' post='8104694']
[quote name='peterra671' timestamp='1383666287' post='8104664']
Is there an upcharge for the speeder tour spec 7.2 or even 7.3 for the tp sldr?
[/quote]


Not sure for the driver at this point but the 8.3 ts and 9.3 ts are stock offerings in the fairway and hybrid. [b]My assumption is the 7.3 ts can be selected as well for no additional charge in the SLDR line...[/b]
[/quote]

At least for the current SLDR line, this assumption is incorrect. TMAG doesn't even offer the 7.3 as a "custom option" shaft on their website. Therefore, if that's the shaft you want, you would probably have to get it independently (and thus get little or no discount). Also, remember that the 6.3, 8.3, and 9.3 are the stock TMAG graphics TP shafts. THESE are where you can get good value buying TP. Just because a 7.3 on the open market would be the same price as an 8.3, does mean that a "real deal Fuji graphics" 7.3 (which is what it would have to be) could be freely substituted for the TMAG graphics 8.3. Finally, just to be clear, I am not trying to get into the whole "read deal/OEM graphics" shaft debate. I believe that the factory graphics TP shafts are the same as the OEM graphics shafts, but, the fact remains that the TMAG graphics TP shafts go a lot cheaper relatively then the identical Fuji graphics shaft.
[/quote]

Per my spec sheet for 2014 these will be on the tp options list as well as the 7.3. Things always could change but I am basing this off of the info I have at the moment.
[/quote]

Didn't know you had a spec sheet... Would love to get more info if you have it. For one, What are the "stock" tp options for the 430? In other words, what shafts can you get for just the standard tp upgrade price?
[/quote]

Thanks for the info.

[Michael79]

No difference between the 430 and 460 offerings for tp shafts. At least there is not any indication of that as of yet. Things could always change...

[Caesar Palache]

TP shafts with no additional upcharge

Adila NV Magnum 44
Adila RIP Beta 60, 70
Adila RIP Phenom 50
Adila RIP.D NV 65
Matrix 5x3 and 6q3
Matrix 7m3, 8m3, 6m3
Matrix Rul 60, 70
Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black 50
Mitsubishi Diamana S+/D+ 62, 72

also they will be selling individual "weight cartridges" (assuming they mean SLDR weights) at a really good price

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='Caesar Palache' timestamp='1383685045' post='8106272']
TP shafts with no additional upcharge

Adila NV Magnum 44
Adila RIP Beta 60, 70
Adila RIP Phenom 50
Adila RIP.D NV 65
Matrix 5x3 and 6q3
Matrix 7m3, 8m3, 6m3
Matrix Rul 60, 70
Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black 50
Mitsubishi Diamana S+/D+ 62, 72

also they will be selling individual "weight cartridges" (assuming they mean SLDR weights) at a really good price
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Good to know about the weight cartridges!

[bph7]

[quote name='Caesar Palache' timestamp='1383685045' post='8106272']
TP shafts with no additional upcharge

Adila NV Magnum 44
Adila RIP Beta 60, 70
Adila RIP Phenom 50
Adila RIP.D NV 65
Matrix 5x3 and 6q3
Matrix 7m3, 8m3, 6m3
Matrix Rul 60, 70
Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black 50
Mitsubishi Diamana S+/D+ 62, 72

also they will be selling individual "weight cartridges" (assuming they mean SLDR weights) at a really good price
[/quote]

In addition to the TS 6.3?

[Caesar Palache]

[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1383686509' post='8106404']
[quote name='Caesar Palache' timestamp='1383685045' post='8106272']
TP shafts with no additional upcharge

Adila NV Magnum 44
Adila RIP Beta 60, 70
Adila RIP Phenom 50
Adila RIP.D NV 65
Matrix 5x3 and 6q3
Matrix 7m3, 8m3, 6m3
Matrix Rul 60, 70
Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black 50
Mitsubishi Diamana S+/D+ 62, 72

also they will be selling individual "weight cartridges" (assuming they mean SLDR weights) at a really good price
[/quote]

In addition to the TS 6.3?
[/quote]

yes thats the "stock" TP shaft

[Michael79]

That is the current tp list with more to come..expect a few to be added that will not carry an up charge.

[Caesar Palache]

[quote name='Michael79' timestamp='1383692007' post='8106824']
That is the current tp list with more to come..expect a few to be added that will not carry an up charge.
[/quote]

yeah its a month and a half old

[scratchswinger]

Whats the up charge on the Oban White?

[Michael79]

[quote name='scratchswinger' timestamp='1383694185' post='8106964']
Whats the up charge on the Oban White?
[/quote]

300

[JJensen]

Could you get the 8.3 in the driver without upcharge?

[Michael79]

Yes

[drbonesvt]

[quote name='JJensen' timestamp='1383715123' post='8108554']
Could you get the 8.3 in the driver without upcharge?
[/quote]

that would be an interesting combo

[drbonesvt]

[quote name='JJensen' timestamp='1383715123' post='8108554']
Could you get the 8.3 in the driver without upcharge?
[/quote]

what are the specs on that shaft?

how it would stack up against the 7.2 TS Speeder


L W T Tip
7.2 Tour Spec X 46 74 83 74 3.0 .335 .615

[TMBob]

[quote name='blblco02' timestamp='1383600965' post='8101432']
[quote name='pleepers303' timestamp='1383596559' post='8101110']
Wait, so with a lighter smaller head, I know the workability will be greater with the TP version, but how will this likely affect spin rates?

[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1383420552' post='8092980']
You're welcome...

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This is what I don't get. It seems like 95% of GolfWrx is constantly clamoring for a "smaller, more workable, players driver" from TM and all other manufacturers. Yet, at the same time 95% of GolfWrx is looking for the newest, longest driver with low spin rates. However, lower spin rates = LESS workabilitly. Unless I'm missing something.
[/quote]

With TM, they always want the opposite of what comes out from TM. These are more the haters of course. They screamed at TM for V2 smaller head because the Tours played em and when TM came out with one, it was old news instantly. It's just the way it's been for a long time. The 430 SLDR TP is just the same mold as the R11 head with a different "technology" to it and a TP logo. TM has been tinkering with the same molds of many items (SW's Irons, FW's, and drivers) for years.

[JJensen]

[quote name='drbonesvt' timestamp='1383744175' post='8109158']
[quote name='JJensen' timestamp='1383715123' post='8108554']
Could you get the 8.3 in the driver without upcharge?
[/quote]

what are the specs on that shaft?

how it would stack up against the 7.2 TS Speeder


L W T Tip
7.2 Tour Spec X 46 74 83 74 3.0 .335 .615
[/quote]

I'm not sure. I almost got one for my 5 wood on eBay. But I would think it perform very similar in spin and launch but just a little heavier with better feel.

[Michael79]

I don't have any specs on it but I can tell you this, it feels much better than the 7.2. I have a 7.2 in my 3 and 5 and hit the new 8.3 in the SLDR 3 and 5 and its much more smoother feeling with pretty similar performance on a flightscope. Now my tempo is on the medium side so I couldn't tell you how this will translate to someone with a quicker tempo or a slow tempo.

[drbonesvt]

[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1383748126' post='8109418']
[quote name='blblco02' timestamp='1383600965' post='8101432']
[quote name='pleepers303' timestamp='1383596559' post='8101110']
Wait, so with a lighter smaller head, I know the workability will be greater with the TP version, but how will this likely affect spin rates?

[quote name='ZJohnson' timestamp='1383420552' post='8092980']
You're welcome...

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[attachment=1934160:430.2.JPG]
[attachment=1934162:430.3.JPG]
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[/quote]

This is what I don't get. It seems like 95% of GolfWrx is constantly clamoring for a "smaller, more workable, players driver" from TM and all other manufacturers. Yet, at the same time 95% of GolfWrx is looking for the newest, longest driver with low spin rates. However, lower spin rates = LESS workabilitly. Unless I'm missing something.
[/quote]

With TM, they always want the opposite of what comes out from TM. These are more the haters of course. They screamed at TM for V2 smaller head because the Tours played em and when TM came out with one, it was old news instantly. It's just the way it's been for a long time. The 430 SLDR TP is just the same mold as the R11 head with a different "technology" to it and a TP logo. TM has been tinkering with the same molds of many items (SW's Irons, FW's, and drivers) for years.
[/quote]

In theory the 430 could be lower spin??? The D3 913 is lower spin than its larger brother the D2