Callaway Big Bertha and Big Bertha Alpha drivers: In-hand photos

[xerpro]

Slightly having a man crush on the Alpha....
I cannot wait to get my hands on it....Sounds like its going to be another SLDR vs Alpha shootout.....
Callaway has worked its way into my bag with the MD2, and now this could be a serious contender to the top of my bag....

[OUZO Power]

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[quote name='Rustynuts' timestamp='1390199254' post='8493815']
Just checking the Callaway website and went and checked the prices of the up charge shafts. Is the tour spec motore and tour ad always been a $300 upgrade?
[/quote]

If that's right, then that is a hell of a lot of upcharge over and above a so called tour quality shaft like the Fubuki Z/ZT. Wow! That would put the cost of the BBA at around $8-900. That's big $$$$.
[/quote]

How much is Titleist/ Tmag charging for a AD DI? If they're charging $300 as well I don't see the big deal. If they're charging less well then okay I understand.
[/quote]Also if TMAG is charging $300 for an upgrade to a MADE FOR shaft in reality they are asking for more.
[/quote]

Callaway are asking for more? Or Tmag are?
[/quote]TMAG. But now that I think of it both drivers would have to have the same price in stock form.

[jay65]

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[quote name='Rustynuts' timestamp='1390199254' post='8493815']
Just checking the Callaway website and went and checked the prices of the up charge shafts. Is the tour spec motore and tour ad always been a $300 upgrade?
[/quote]

If that's right, then that is a hell of a lot of upcharge over and above a so called tour quality shaft like the Fubuki Z/ZT. Wow! That would put the cost of the BBA at around $8-900. That's big $$$$.
[/quote]

How much is Titleist/ Tmag charging for a AD DI? If they're charging $300 as well I don't see the big deal. If they're charging less well then okay I understand.
[/quote]Also if TMAG is charging $300 for an upgrade to a MADE FOR shaft in reality they are asking for more.
[/quote]

Callaway are asking for more? Or Tmag are?
[/quote]TMAG. But now that I think of it both drivers would have to have the same price in stock form.
[/quote]

Yes, that's right. $499 aren't they? Then of course Cally's upcharges are that bit more. But sometimes price is irrelevant, for loyalty reasons, either way, I'm fully aware. But the most important question for me personally, is, will it run the probability of lowering my scores?

[UnderPar18]

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[quote name='Rustynuts' timestamp='1390199254' post='8493815']
Just checking the Callaway website and went and checked the prices of the up charge shafts. Is the tour spec motore and tour ad always been a $300 upgrade?
[/quote]

If that's right, then that is a hell of a lot of upcharge over and above a so called tour quality shaft like the Fubuki Z/ZT. Wow! That would put the cost of the BBA at around $8-900. That's big $$$$.
[/quote]

How much is Titleist/ Tmag charging for a AD DI? If they're charging $300 as well I don't see the big deal. If they're charging less well then okay I understand.
[/quote]

I have absolutely no idea what all the prices are in the US. But what I do know is that the Titleist 913 is less $$$ to start with than the BBA basic price, and that the Titleist comes with the S+ and D+ as standard, whereas Callaway are charging an extra $150 for those shafts options. I'm not sure what the charges are for Tmag over there. It's gotta be almost cheaper to retro fit a DI for example then sell the ZT on the Bay?
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Callaway can't always be the cheapest with every club in regards to shafts. I don't see Titleist offering tour v's, pxi, modus 3, recoils for nothing in their irons. Callaway is charging a lot for their driver but I get why. What I was trying to save is its a lot regardless what brand you buy now adays if you have a specific shaft in mind like a AD DI.
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Firstly, I think you'll find that Titleist do offer the Modus3, the KBS Tour V and Pxi's, some may be offered as 'off menu options, but they definitely offer them. The rest of your statement I agree with, that it is a lot of $$$ regardless. I just compared Tmag's upcharges on the SLDR 430 TP to the BBA's and the Callaways' upcharges are consistently more across the board. So I'm not sure if I totally agree with you as to why they have to charge more than anyone else, but that, we will have to agree to disagree upon. But you are right, it's a lot of money regardless.

If it works better for me than any other Driver on the Market, and most importantly, helps me to lower my scores, then it could be worth the $$$. But with Drivers virtually all maxed out, I'm not totally convinced. But people have their own money, so I'm not personally entitled to comment on what they spend their $$$ on. If they want to spend more money, and they think it will help their game, then more power to them.
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My point was this:
Your saying Tiitleist has better shaft options for the driver and especially for the price. Why can't Callaway.

What I'm saying is: for the price Callaway has better shaft options for irons. Sure Titleist carries a lot of these shafts, but upcharge them.

In the end you can't always be the best at everything. And I am glad no company is because monopolies mean lack of competiveness.

[Rustynuts]

Reason I asked is Callaway down here always had the best priced shaft upgrades, now granted I never looked before at the price but they seem to have gone up? Titleist always were the most expensive

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='Rustynuts' timestamp='1390250938' post='8496517']
Reason I asked is Callaway down here always had the best priced shaft upgrades, now granted I never looked before at the price but they seem to have gone up? Titleist always were the most expensive
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You got that right, Titleist is way more expensive for iron shafts. There is a $400+ difference for me to get 3-PW with recoils in the AP2's. That made my decision very easy to go with the Apex Pros.

[tbowles411]

I'm still stuck with choosing the BB over the BBA. Everyone wants more distance, but which one is simply easier to make contact with if you don't hit the center of the face all the time?

[xThor]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390251977' post='8496629']
I'm still stuck with choosing the BB over the BBA. Everyone wants more distance, but which one is simply easier to make contact with if you don't hit the center of the face all the time?
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Definitely try to hit both. For me personally the BB was much less demanding than the BBA. I thought the BB to be more forgiving for me personally while I was at the ECPC and better dispersion on my off center hits.

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390251977' post='8496629']
I'm still stuck with choosing the BB over the BBA. Everyone wants more distance, but which one is simply easier to make contact with if you don't hit the center of the face all the time?
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I would bet the regular BB would be easier since it's suppose to have greater MOI.

[tbowles411]

You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.

[TheMoneyShot]

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You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.

[xThor]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

Im right with you on the looks of the BBA. I was fit into the BB with the ZT shaft, but really thinking about getting a BBA and buying the BB separately.

[tbowles411]

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[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.
[/quote]
You're right. With a UST VTS in it. Yeahhhhhh.... Or just use my Attas 3 from my Razr Fit...

[TheMoneyShot]

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253034' post='8496715']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.
[/quote]
You're right. With a UST VTS in it. Yeahhhhhh....
[/quote]

You and your UST shafts. It sounds like a very lethal combo though...

[tbowles411]

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253034' post='8496715']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.
[/quote]
You're right. With a UST VTS in it. Yeahhhhhh....
[/quote]

You and your UST shafts. It sounds like a very lethal combo though...
[/quote]
Or my Attas 3...

[TheMoneyShot]

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[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253214' post='8496741']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390253136' post='8496733']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253034' post='8496715']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.
[/quote]
You're right. With a UST VTS in it. Yeahhhhhh....
[/quote]

You and your UST shafts. It sounds like a very lethal combo though...
[/quote]
Or my Attas 3...
[/quote]

Your such a shaft ho!

[tbowles411]

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[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390253452' post='8496757']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253214' post='8496741']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390253136' post='8496733']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1390253034' post='8496715']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1390252810' post='8496699']
You're both right. I love the looks of the BBA, but realistically, I probably need the BB.
[/quote]

If you are looking to order before you can demo it I would go with the regular BB. I'm sure you can hit either one T but the regular one is more forgiving over the BBA. That's what I have been told by many sources who have hit both.
[/quote]
You're right. With a UST VTS in it. Yeahhhhhh....
[/quote]

You and your UST shafts. It sounds like a very lethal combo though...
[/quote]
Or my Attas 3...
[/quote]

Your such a shaft ho!
[/quote]
I know! But I have it already in a driver. I don't want it to go to waste!

[SwooshLT]

Can anyone provide a side by side comparison picture of the bba, rfx and original razor fit?

[golf1010]

Is the new tip in the alpha and bb the same as the older razr drivers??

[xThor]

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Is the new tip in the alpha and bb the same as the older razr drivers??
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No, only compatible with the FT Optiforce series. Will not work with Razr fit/xtreme or original Xhot series.

[Dscvrr St Louis]

Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.

[Pure745]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
[/quote]

Very cool, thanks for the post. I definitely want to try the BBA to see what it's all about, a lot of better players at my club are definitely talking about it. Interesting how big of a difference the numbers are when the CG position is changed.

[jdub_ut]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
[/quote]

I tested BBA last Saturday with the stock Fubuki ZT X-stiff shaft. My SS is around 107, but my launch and spin numbers were very similar to yours. GC in low position dropped my spin by about 400 RPM into the 2200-2400 range. I cannot wait to put this club in my bag.

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1390277573' post='8499251']
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
[/quote]

Very cool, thanks for the post. I definitely want to try the BBA to see what it's all about, a lot of better players at my club are definitely talking about it. Interesting how big of a difference the numbers are when the CG position is changed.
[/quote]

It really does 'feel' like a different driver when switched..but off the face and overall swing..feels the same...just the 'placement' of the weight makes it change the static feel in your hands...

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='jdub_ut' timestamp='1390278585' post='8499349']
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
[/quote]

I tested BBA last Saturday with the stock Fubuki ZT X-stiff shaft. My SS is around 107, but my launch and spin numbers were very similar to yours. GC in low position dropped my spin by about 400 RPM into the 2200-2400 range. I cannot wait to put this club in my bag.
[/quote]

I have higher spin with most of my long clubs, my 5 wood checks! LOL!.. so was really cool to see the difference. Like the Fubuki K, but the Tour, Alpha, and I thought it was mentioned that the ZT was based on those latter two shafts, was just too spinny in the stiff and Rep didn't have the ZT in the X.

[evanseze]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
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Hey D....what sort of numbers were you getting with the BB??? Just curious what the difference was from the BBA. I am most interested in the BBA to see how it compares with the SLDR......any thoughts on that regarding comparing it to the SLDR?? Would you say the BBA is lower spin or the SLDR?

[jas904]

I wonder if one can get the BBA stock shaft in the BB without an up charge? I see that on golf works.com, the Z tour is $50 more than the Z, so maybe not.

[jdub_ut]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390278844' post='8499367']
[quote name='jdub_ut' timestamp='1390278585' post='8499349']
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1390277221' post='8499217']
Got to meet up with my Rep in STL today at my GG. Had my Kiyoshi White tipped up with an Optiforce tip to hit the BBA and BB to compare the two with my current gamer shaft.

BB was out of the running rather quickly...feels/sounds/looks great, but I couldn't get the numbers I was looking for with it.

BBA was different story, hit it with GC in the high position first to see what the normal set up would do...adapter set on Neutral/Standard loft. Pretty warmed up at this point and for being indoors was swinging pretty well...I do not swing as fast indoors as out..been measured in both and just don't do it..don't know why...was averaging 103-104 mph tonight. Ball flight pattern was ultra consistent, so I am sure the flight direction will be very good with the Alpha.
In High Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 13.8-15.5
Spin between 2600-3100.

In Low Position:
103-104 SS
LA between 12.8 and 13.8
Spin between 2200-2600.

Love the feel and look of the Alpha, the sound is very nice, not too loud, not too tinny, slightly muted, but powerful at the same time. In the High position, it was very normal sounding, almost like my RFE.
In the low position, first off the feel of the driver changes...literally, you can feel the difference when the weight is switched...just the general feel. Club swings the same in both positions, but the feel at impact is more 'dense' and more powerful to me in the low position. and to me it feels great...like my RFE, but better overall feedback. Mis-hits were very solidly on line, and the draws/cuts I thought would be extreme, were not. Really like it..can't wait till Release!

Test shaft..Kiyoshi White 75X at 45 inches. Lamkin Crossline.
[/quote]

I tested BBA last Saturday with the stock Fubuki ZT X-stiff shaft. My SS is around 107, but my launch and spin numbers were very similar to yours. GC in low position dropped my spin by about 400 RPM into the 2200-2400 range. I cannot wait to put this club in my bag.
[/quote]

I have higher spin with most of my long clubs, my 5 wood checks! LOL!.. so was really cool to see the difference. Like the Fubuki K, but the Tour, Alpha, and I thought it was mentioned that the ZT was based on those latter two shafts, was just too spinny in the stiff and Rep didn't have the ZT in the X.
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I have always played stiff shafts, but couldn't get my spin below 3000 with the Fubuki ZT stiff. The x-stiff gave me great numbers and it didn't feel too boardy. The rep recommended tipping the stiff shaft 1". I know nothing about how tipping the stiff would affect my numbers. I'm going to try to get down to Carlsbad for a fitting in the next month or so.

[jdub_ut]

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I wonder if one can get the BBA stock shaft in the BB without an up charge? I see that on golf works.com, the Z tour is $50 more than the Z, so maybe not.
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Fubuki Zeta Tour is an option on the BB with no up charge.

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='jas904' timestamp='1390279146' post='8499399']
I wonder if one can get the BBA stock shaft in the BB without an up charge? I see that on golf works.com, the Z tour is $50 more than the Z, so maybe not.
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According to the Callaway website, which has the preorder up for both drivers, yes. I was able to choose the Zeta Tour on the BB without an upcharge.