Premium Balls To Try - TP5x & which two CSx, ProV1 & AVX?

Drofdarb23Drofdarb23 Members Posts: 83
I've been playing the 2017 version of the Callaway Chrome Soft and am looking to try some of the other premium balls on the market (I have some gift cards that are burning a hole in my pocket). I'm primarily looking for a straighter ball, less affected by wind and side spin that provides the feel and feedback around the greens from the premium balls.



I'm pretty certain I want to try the TP5x (longer, straighter, lower spin that the TP5 (and great in the wind)) but also want to try one or two of the following three - Chrome Soft X (firmer ball, lower launch and less spin than standard CS), ProV1 (lower trajectory & lower spinning than ProV1x), AVX (even lower, more penetrating ball flight and less spin than ProV1?).



Are my assumptions/statements generally correct regarding the differences between some of the balls and their x/nonx counterparts? If they're wrong, feel free to correct.

Which two of CSx, ProV1 and AVX would recommend and why?

Are the ProV1 and AVX different enough to warrant trying both?

Does the AVX really belong at the same price point as the ProVs?



Thanks!

Comments

  • Fairways_and_GreensFairways_and_Greens Members Posts: 758 ✭✭
    The z Star XV is likely the best wind ball.
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    917 F2 15° Diamana S+ 80x
    917 F2 18° ATX Blue 85x
    915H.d 20.5° Modus3 105x
    Z765 Modus3 125x
    Z765 51° Modus3 125x
    Mack Daddy Forged 58° Super Peening Blue
    EvnRoll 8
    Z Star XV
  • elwhippyelwhippy Members Posts: 3,076 ✭✭
    I have always found Cally ammo the best in a wind so not sure you will find anything better. The AVX is great until you get within 50 yards and then it plays like a cheaper ball. The AVX is not a premium ball but Titleist marketing is second to none.
  • craz-ecraz-e Members Posts: 4,033 ✭✭
    I loved the 2017 CS, not a fan of the new model. Currently playing the project (a) and I find it to be excellent. I have purchased a dozen AVX balls today and will be trying them on Monday.
    Driver = Ping G410 Plus even flow black 6.0
    5 Wood = Taylormade Burner

    Irons = Miura 1957 Baby Blades Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wilson Staff FG59 DG S300's (4-PW)
    Titleist 718 MB Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wedges = Titleist Vokey SM6 52*, 56* and 60*

    = Taylormade 64* Hi-Toe
    Putter = Wilson Staff 8882
    Ball = Titleist AVX
  • Hat TrickHat Trick Members Posts: 543 ✭✭
    TP5X and Pro V1
  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Posts: 3,195 ClubWRX
    Prov1 still the one to beat.
    Taylormade M1 (2017) 440 9.5* tour w/Atmos Black TS 6x<br />Taylormade M6 Rocket 3 w/Atmos Black 7s<br />Taylormade p790 3-pw <br />Taylormade hi-toe 52-9 and 58-10 wedges <br />Taylormade Spider Mallet 72
  • scrap22scrap22 Members Posts: 189 ✭✭
    elwhippy wrote:


    I have always found Cally ammo the best in a wind so not sure you will find anything better. The AVX is great until you get within 50 yards and then it plays like a cheaper ball. The AVX is not a premium ball but Titleist marketing is second to none.




    I couldn't disagree more about what you said about the AVX.
    Callaway Epic Flash 9 
    Ping G410 3 Wood
    Ping G410 Hybrid 19
    Ping G410 Hybrid 22
    Mizuno JPX 900 HM 5-PW
    Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60
    EVNROLL ER2
    Titleist AVX
  • Big BenBig Ben Members Posts: 8,936 ✭✭
    I fell in love today with the TP5x, what a great ball! Ive been set on my Cally Chrome Soft X and B330s for a while now but this ball feels and performs better for me. It's without a doubt my next ball and I'm NOT a TM fan. BB
    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • Drofdarb23Drofdarb23 Members Posts: 83
    Picked up a dozen TP5x and ProV1 - hoping to compare them this week or coming weekend.



    Couldn't convince myself to pull the trigger on a dozen CSx.



    Might need to try out the Z Star XVs but still unsure/intrigued by the AVX.. Such wide range of opinions on this ball.
  • argee1977argee1977 Members Posts: 297
    I find the Pro V1 is the ball of choice for me, and it's close to the TP5 in terms of performance and feel, compared to the TP5x, never really got on with the 5x, feels a bit too clicky for me, same with the CSx, although not tried the 2018 CSx.



    AVX is the ball i'm using just now though, loving it, keep reading this rubbish about spin and 50-100 yards in, honestly i can't get my head round the comments, does everyone on here spin the ball back like a pro, the fact is it's a golf ball, you get a feel for a course, you then play it for those conditions, i find it spins plenty for what i need, with the added bonus that it doesn't have as many of those massive spinners that the V1, CS, etc have, where you throw the ball on the green and it just stops dead without the expected roll, it does do well with the roll out on those.
  • scrap22scrap22 Members Posts: 189 ✭✭
    Lovin me some AVX! I enjoy the people that are making every attempt to bash the AVX. Maybe demand will decrease and the price will drop a bit. Either way, that is my ball going forward. Have had great success with it.
    Callaway Epic Flash 9 
    Ping G410 3 Wood
    Ping G410 Hybrid 19
    Ping G410 Hybrid 22
    Mizuno JPX 900 HM 5-PW
    Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60
    EVNROLL ER2
    Titleist AVX
  • gatorMDgatorMD Hacker-in-Chief ClubWRX Posts: 4,564 ClubWRX
    AVX lover here.
    Driver: Ping G400 Max 9 Tour AD MT 6
    3W: TM M2 Tour AD MT 7
    Utility: Srixon Z U65 3/19 Tour AD DI
    Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 4-9 Tour V
    Wedges: SM7 46F, 50F, 54F, and 60K KBS Tour
    Putter: SC Newport 3
    Ball: AVX/ProV1
  • craz-ecraz-e Members Posts: 4,033 ✭✭
    Had no problems with the AVX yesterday, chip shots pulled up, full shots dropped and stopped even on greens sloping away from me, cut through a slight breeze with no problems.

    Felt great from tee to green
    Driver = Ping G410 Plus even flow black 6.0
    5 Wood = Taylormade Burner

    Irons = Miura 1957 Baby Blades Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wilson Staff FG59 DG S300's (4-PW)
    Titleist 718 MB Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wedges = Titleist Vokey SM6 52*, 56* and 60*

    = Taylormade 64* Hi-Toe
    Putter = Wilson Staff 8882
    Ball = Titleist AVX
  • playaplaya Members Posts: 8,714 ✭✭
    scrap22 wrote:

    elwhippy wrote:


    I have always found Cally ammo the best in a wind so not sure you will find anything better. The AVX is great until you get within 50 yards and then it plays like a cheaper ball. The AVX is not a premium ball but Titleist marketing is second to none.




    I couldn't disagree more about what you said about the AVX.


    You are proving his point with this post.
  • Drofdarb23Drofdarb23 Members Posts: 83
    Sounds like I might have to swoop a dozen of the AVX after all.. Doesn't help that I'm a sucker for colored golf balls and they just so happen to make an optic yellow version (still wishing Titliest would make a yellow ProV1).
  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 9,769 ✭✭
    scrap22 wrote:

    elwhippy wrote:


    I have always found Cally ammo the best in a wind so not sure you will find anything better. The AVX is great until you get within 50 yards and then it plays like a cheaper ball. The AVX is not a premium ball but Titleist marketing is second to none.




    I couldn't disagree more about what you said about the AVX.




    He meant to say Tour Soft, obviously. Easy typo to make.
    Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.
  • kcd38kcd38 Members Posts: 277 ✭✭
    I have tested a bunch of balls, and for a great ball in the wind that also has less side spin definitely try the Bridgestone Tour B XS. Better feel and flight than the TP5, soft off of wedges and putter, controllable with the irons and straighter with the driver.
    WITB:
    Driver - PING G400 LST 8.5, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0
    3 Wood - PING G400 14.5, Ping Tour 75 S
    Hybrid - Ping G410 19 degree, Tensei CK Blue 80 HY or Taylormade P790 UDI, HZRDUS Black 6.0
    4-PW - Mizuno MP 18 MMC 4 iron, Mizuno MP 18 SC 5-PW, KBS C Taper 130 x
    Wedges - Vokey SM7 52 F, 56 F, 60 D (bent to 51, 55)
    Putter - Taylormade Spider Tour Black
  • Zakers23Zakers23 Members Posts: 116 ✭✭
    AVX is Incredible have hit them all there is nothing like it
  • c50soonerc50sooner Members Posts: 63 ✭✭
    big +1 for TP5x. I've briefly tried AVX too and it performs very well, but I prefer the higher ball flight of the TP5x, with no real wind penalty. Fantastic on/around the green as well. Also wasn't a fan of the feel of the Z Star XV, performs well but I found it to have a lack of feeling and feedback on full shots.
    Cobra F8+ 9.5* - Aldila NK2V Green SCallaway GBB 3 Wood - Kuro Kage TiNi SCallaway Apex 20, 23 Hybrid - Kuro Kage Black SSrixon Z355 4,6-PW - NS Pro 950GH SCallaway MD2 52,56 - DG S300Odyssey White Hot RX RossieBridgestone Tour B X
  • scrap22scrap22 Members Posts: 189 ✭✭
    playa wrote:

    scrap22 wrote:

    elwhippy wrote:


    I have always found Cally ammo the best in a wind so not sure you will find anything better. The AVX is great until you get within 50 yards and then it plays like a cheaper ball. The AVX is not a premium ball but Titleist marketing is second to none.




    I couldn't disagree more about what you said about the AVX.


    You are proving his point with this post.




    I am proving his point because I completely disagree? That makes zero sense. Thanks for your input though.
    Callaway Epic Flash 9 
    Ping G410 3 Wood
    Ping G410 Hybrid 19
    Ping G410 Hybrid 22
    Mizuno JPX 900 HM 5-PW
    Vokey SM7 50, 55, 60
    EVNROLL ER2
    Titleist AVX
  • WalterWalter Belgian Golfer Members Posts: 700 ✭✭
    I have been a long time prov1x user, I have always liked the higher trajectory, important for me. A couple of weeks a go I got a box of TP5x logo balls at an invitational event .. have been sold ever since , They give me Everything the prov1x gave me , But sometimes a bit more ( mostly on the driver ..) . Maybe it is the placebo of something "

    New" and possible I Will be back to good old prov1x in while .. But for now TP5x is My summer season ball 🙂
    Countdown for Augusta!!!
  • Drofdarb23Drofdarb23 Members Posts: 83
    argee1977 wrote:


    I find the Pro V1 is the ball of choice for me, and it's close to the TP5 in terms of performance and feel, compared to the TP5x, never really got on with the 5x, feels a bit too clicky for me, same with the CSx, although not tried the 2018 CSx.



    AVX is the ball i'm using just now though, loving it, keep reading this rubbish about spin and 50-100 yards in, honestly i can't get my head round the comments, does everyone on here spin the ball back like a pro, the fact is it's a golf ball, you get a feel for a course, you then play it for those conditions, i find it spins plenty for what i need, with the added bonus that it doesn't have as many of those massive spinners that the V1, CS, etc have, where you throw the ball on the green and it just stops dead without the expected roll, it does do well with the roll out on those.



    scrap22 wrote:


    Lovin me some AVX! I enjoy the people that are making every attempt to bash the AVX. Maybe demand will decrease and the price will drop a bit. Either way, that is my ball going forward. Have had great success with it.



    gatorMD wrote:


    AVX lover here.



    craz-e wrote:


    Had no problems with the AVX yesterday, chip shots pulled up, full shots dropped and stopped even on greens sloping away from me, cut through a slight breeze with no problems.

    Felt great from tee to green



    Zakers23 wrote:


    AVX is Incredible have hit them all there is nothing like it




    Just wondering from those of you that have played the AVX - how would you compare it in terms of softness/firmness to TP5x, Chrome Soft, ProV1? For example, I think it's safe to say more firm than Chrome Soft but softer than a Top Flight. Is it firmer than those balls, comparable, softer, something else?
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,611 ✭✭
    For me I would say the balls you listed rank softest to firmest like this;



    AVX / 2017 Chrome Soft

    2018 Chrome Soft

    Pro V1

    TP5x
    Taylormade M6 driver with MCA Tensei CK Pro White 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood with MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid with MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid with MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons with Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW with Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 with Modus3 115 Wedge
    Taylormade Spider X 
    Taylormade TP5
  • craz-ecraz-e Members Posts: 4,033 ✭✭
    AVX is similar to the old chrome soft with regard softness, the new CS is a bit clickier for me
    Driver = Ping G410 Plus even flow black 6.0
    5 Wood = Taylormade Burner

    Irons = Miura 1957 Baby Blades Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wilson Staff FG59 DG S300's (4-PW)
    Titleist 718 MB Project X LZ 6.0 (4-PW)
    Wedges = Titleist Vokey SM6 52*, 56* and 60*

    = Taylormade 64* Hi-Toe
    Putter = Wilson Staff 8882
    Ball = Titleist AVX
  • Serenity NowSerenity Now Lefty Boomers Posts: 104 ✭✭
    I play 3-4 times a week so I always try to play what ever premium ball iss on sale. Usually I am playing last year's model to get best bang for buck. Been using the Z Star Tour XV which I got for $20 per doz from Rockbottom a few months ago and it is fantastic. Also use Pro Vx ot TP5x and Chrome soft as I have pretty good supply of all.



    A buddy of mine gave me 2 AVX to try out the other day and wow. It didn't make sense to me that Titleist would come out with a ball for same price as Pro V but now that I have played it I am sold. It performs as well as any of the others that I have played but the cover is so much more durable. I played 3 rounds with one ball finally losing it in a tree this morning but it still looked brand new right to the end. Hope they discount them at Christmas as they will now be part of the rotation for sure. I wouldn't pay 50 bucks a dozen for any of them but the AVX is as good as the rest for sure.
  • cristphotocristphoto Members Posts: 3,298 ✭✭
    It will be interesting to see if the AVX gets in line with the release cycle of the pv1 and pv1x which are due for replacement in early 2019. Otherwise it may be replaced in 2021 which would be the next cycle.
  • StumpnavStumpnav Members Posts: 141 ✭✭
    I played the CS17, but have moved to the CSX18 and won't look back. Earlier in the year, I tried the Z Star and Z Star XV, the TP5 and the Tour B XS.

    Truthfully, I could play any of them along with some others and be quite happy. But for the sake of consistency, I had to pick one and the CSX18 won out.
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    Epic 3W
    Epic Heavenwood
    (or Callaway UT XForged 18*)
    Callaway XForged 4-6
    Callaway MB 7-A
    Callaway MD Forged 56, 60
    Odyssey RSX001
    Chrome Soft X 18
  • benclabbenclab golfn702 Members Posts: 1,625 ✭✭
    I'm a big TM fan, loved the TPx line, but the TP5x is just not for me. Seemed like the ball floated in the air too much and didn't get any distance gains like some did. Maybe it's because I'm already a high ball hitter. The TP5 was even worse. I love the CSx. That ball is legit and is great in the wind too. I highly recommend it. I've never hit the AVX and didn't like the ProV1 or V1x.
    TaylorMade M1 8.5* w/ Speeder 661x (testing M5 9* w/ KK60x)
    Titleist 915 Fd 15* and 18* w/ Diamana WB 80x
    TaylorMade PSI tour 3 iron w/ PX 6.5
    TaylorMade MB 4 thru 9 w/ PX 6.5
    Mizuno T7 48*, 52*, and 58* w/ DG
    Odyssey RX VLine Fang or RX #1; 33 inches
    Titleist Pro V1x
  • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1 Members Posts: 575 ✭✭
    benclab wrote:


    I'm a big TM fan, loved the TPx line, but the TP5x is just not for me. Seemed like the ball floated in the air too much and didn't get any distance gains like some did. Maybe it's because I'm already a high ball hitter. The TP5 was even worse. I love the CSx. That ball is legit and is great in the wind too. I highly recommend it. I've never hit the AVX and didn't like the ProV1 or V1x.




    Played the TP5 for the first time today and somewhat agree. The Tp5 played shorter than the QST for me. But it does have a ridiculous amount of spin on full iron shots. Even my U65 di checked up and only rolled about 18" from the pitch mark on a long par 3.



    For those who have played both, is it worth me trying the TPx5, or are they more similar than different?
    WITB

    Callaway Rogue driver w/ Oban Tour Limited 4 60g
    Callaway Rogue 4 wood w/ Oban Kiyoshi White 4 65g
    Nike Sasquatch Sumo #4 hybrid(cut down 1") w/ H Diamana s
    Srixon U65 20° Miyazaki Kaula 7 s
    Ping G700 5-UW AWT 2.0(1°flat, 2° weak)
    Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 19 54/ KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115
    Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 19 60/KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115
    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne (adjusted to 32")
    Snell MTB Black
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