2019 Equipment Contract Changes

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  • CStephenson17CStephenson17 ClubWRX Posts: 639 ClubWRX


    Hey all.: Now that we know Rose is going to Honda the next big question will be what shoe and appeal deal(s) will he have? Thanks




    Bonobos
  • zonadubzonadub Members Posts: 297 ✭✭
    ctfuzz21 wrote:


    It’s not necessarily that bc Tour Pro Steve plays a brand you will buy it. The player endorsement’s true value is the constant marketing of that brand on Saturday and Sundays from 2-6p and the highlight shows all week after.



    It’s rarely a straight line; more of a constant drip to at least get you to “think” of their brand when it comes time to make a purchasing decision.




    This. ^^^^^
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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,914 ✭✭
    Fabian Gomez has gone to Titleist. Don't get too excited!
    Titleist TS3 8.5 Stiff Project X Even Flow White T1100
    Titleist 915Fd 15 Stiff Rogue Black
    Titleist 915Hd 17.5 Stiff Diamana S+
    Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW Stiff KBS Tour
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50.08 & 54.10
    Titlesist Vokey SM7 60.04
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5S
    ProV1x 2019
  • QManyQMany #TheWRX ClubWRX Posts: 9,065 ClubWRX
    Molinari with Callaway MBs!?!



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    Taylormade SLDR Mini (14°) Matrix White Tie 70X
    Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
    Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
    Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
    Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
    Odyssey O Works R-Line
    Taylormade TP5X


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  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,682 ✭✭
    And Toulon putter!
    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 2
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • cardozacardoza Members Posts: 1,193 ✭✭
    Woodland not using the Cortex.



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    Callaway Rogue Subzero 13.5* - HZRDUS Yellow 83X
    Callaway Rogue Subzero 18* - Accra 380 M5
    TitleistAP2 3-PW - KBS Tour 130X
    Callaway MD4 52* W Grind and 58* X Grind - DG X100
    Black Lab BL2 35" Super Stroke Pistol GT Tour
  • BIG STUBIG STU Members Posts: 11,396 ✭✭
    MattyO1984 wrote:


    Fabian Gomez has gone to Titleist. Don't get too excited!
    Really??? OMG!!! I can hardly contain myself
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  • GolfingfanaticGolfingfanatic Members Posts: 3,126 ✭✭
    grahamc wrote:


    As above b-man777, looks like Bonobos for apparel, unsure on shoes at the moment.


    He still wore the adipure spikeless shoe in the promo pictures for Honma. Maybe shoe only deal with adidas?
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    2016 TM M1 T3 12.5°
    TEE CBX 119 16° hybrid
    Cobra F9 4 Iron Ricke Special
    Miura CB57 5-PW
    Vokey SM4 52°/ Cleveland RTX 2.0 Raw 56°/ Vokey Proto 60°
    Odyssey Armlock
  • averysdadaverysdad Members Posts: 1,216 ✭✭
    cardoza wrote:
    Woodland not using the Cortex.



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    Dang...that would’ve been a coup for Wilson.
  • CStephenson17CStephenson17 ClubWRX Posts: 639 ClubWRX
    averysdad wrote:

    cardoza wrote:
    Woodland not using the Cortex.



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    Dang...that would’ve been a coup for Wilson.




    Yeah but can you imagine how long he is with the G400 😵
  • averysdadaverysdad Members Posts: 1,216 ✭✭
    ^^stupid long I’m sure
  • GC70GC70 What's Next? ClubWRX Posts: 7,544 ✭✭
    What’s going on with Paul Casey? I heard rumors about him going to Honma also?
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  • collindm1collindm1 Members Posts: 91 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,682 ✭✭
    GC70 wrote:


    What’s going on with Paul Casey? I heard rumors about him going to Honma also?




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    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 2
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • texcromtexcrom ClubWRX Posts: 3,505 ClubWRX
    Any final word on Sneds?
    Any combination of 14 of the clubs below make up the bag at any given time:
    Titleist TS3 10.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff 
    Titleist TS3 16.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff
    Titleist 718 T-MB 3 - PW Project X PXi 6.0
    Titleist 718 AP2 4 - PW AMT Tour White S-300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 46-10F, 50-08F, 54-10S, 58-12D, 60-12D
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Newport
    Titleist Pro V1X

    Others:
    Titleist 905R 10.5 degree YS6+ Stiff, Taylormade R7 425 TP, Taylormade R7 TP Titanium 3 wood, Ping Anser 35 inch brass (old), Cleveland Designed By blade putter.

    GO VOLS!
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,480 ✭✭
    edited Jan 3, 2019 12:19am #197
    texcrom wrote:


    Any final word on Sneds?




    Bridgestone bag gone. Workday bag and hat. Same Bridgestone irons. I heard a Ping G400 driver. I can't imagine the Odyssey leaving the bag.



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    Ping i20 3 (DI-95S), 4-UW (PX 6.0)
    Ping Glide 2.0 56*SS, 60*ES (PX 6.0)
    Ping Vault Arna
  • theboypinoytheboypinoy Members Posts: 2,076 ✭✭
    edited Jan 3, 2019 1:05am #198
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    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html





    Here is in Hawaii:
  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. CanadaMembers Posts: 2,682 ✭✭

    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2017/12/21/bettinardi-golf-signs-francesco-molinari-putter-deal.html




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he’s full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.
    Taylormade M6 driver MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 60 S Flex
    Taylormade M6 fairway wood MCA Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 19° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 80 S Flex
    Taylormade M4 22° hybrid MCA OT Tour Hybrid 90 S Flex
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC irons 5-PW Irons Modus3 Tour 105 S flex
    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-08 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge
    Scotty Cameron Futura 7M
    Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 2
    Titleist Yellow Pro V1
  • collindm1collindm1 Members Posts: 91 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:


    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he's full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.




    Wow - can't believe switching up the putter after the year he had. Thanks!
  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers Posts: 2,478 ✭✭
    ^^ Seems odd but having gotten some insight into Team Molinari's approach and analytics via Denis Pugh on Sky Sports I'm 100% convinced its all planned to the finest detail.
    Titleist 910D3 8.5°
    TaylorMade M3 15°
    Titleist CB (710) 3-PW
    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 Chrome 54° S Grind & 58° C Grind
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2
    Titleist Pro V 1x
  • andrieddleandrieddle Members Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    Wonder how much he's getting from Callaway that he signed with them after the year he had......
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    Cobra Bio Cell 4W (16)
    TaylorMade R15 4H (21)
    FourteeN TC 606 (5-P/A)

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    Callaway MD2 (56/60)
    Odyssey EXO 7S
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  • jtitleist12jtitleist12 Members Posts: 3,024 ✭✭
    noodle3872 wrote:


    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he's full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.




    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".



    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...



    - Josh
  • MattyO1984MattyO1984 Members Posts: 4,914 ✭✭


    ^^ Seems odd but having gotten some insight into Team Molinari's approach and analytics via Denis Pugh on Sky Sports I'm 100% convinced its all planned to the finest detail.




    Now there is a good change for 2019, no more Denis Pugh on Sky Sports!
    Titleist TS3 8.5 Stiff Project X Even Flow White T1100
    Titleist 915Fd 15 Stiff Rogue Black
    Titleist 915Hd 17.5 Stiff Diamana S+
    Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW Stiff KBS Tour
    Titleist Vokey SM6 50.08 & 54.10
    Titlesist Vokey SM7 60.04
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5S
    ProV1x 2019
  • BRS2014BRS2014 Respect the game Members Posts: 320

    noodle3872 wrote:


    collindm1 wrote:

    noodle3872 wrote:


    And Toulon putter!




    Molinari? Isn't he a brand ambassador for Bettinardi?




    He signed with them this past season.



    Don't know how long contract is: https://www.pgatour....utter-deal.html




    Guess the Betti deal is done now and he's full bag Callaway and Odyssey Toulon. Golf ball is the wild card.




    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".



    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...



    - Josh




    Can you blame him? This deal probably sets his family up for generations to come and it's not like he's going to an unproven company. He's going to Callaway, this isn't like going to Wilson woods and a Volvik ball.
  • jtitleist12jtitleist12 Members Posts: 3,024 ✭✭
    BRS2014 wrote:





    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".



    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...



    - Josh




    Can you blame him? This deal probably sets his family up for generations to come and it's not like he's going to an unproven company. He's going to Callaway, this isn't like going to Wilson woods and a Volvik ball.




    I doubt Callaway is paying Molinari "generational" type money. If they didn't shell out for Rory last year, I sincerely doubt that they would back up the Brinks truck for Francesco.



    - Josh
  • BRS2014BRS2014 Respect the game Members Posts: 320

    BRS2014 wrote:



    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".



    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...



    - Josh




    Can you blame him? This deal probably sets his family up for generations to come and it's not like he's going to an unproven company. He's going to Callaway, this isn't like going to Wilson woods and a Volvik ball.




    I doubt Callaway is paying Molinari "generational" type money. If they didn't shell out for Rory last year, I sincerely doubt that they would back up the Brinks truck for Francesco.



    - Josh




    It is guaranteed money whatever the dollar amount is. Molinari's stock will never be this high, he has to take the money if offered.

    You can't blame the guy for taking the contract to play one of the top OEMs clubs.
  • KillerPenguinKillerPenguin Members Posts: 583 ✭✭
    BRS2014 wrote:



    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".

    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...


    It is guaranteed money whatever the dollar amount is. Molinari's stock will never be this high, he has to take the money if offered.

    You can't blame the guy for taking the contract to play one of the top OEMs clubs.


    This times a million. Continued success is never a guarantee. Guaranteed money is. I have no idea what he's getting paid to play, but I wouldn't be surprise if it's in the low seven figures range. Seeing as winning any professional tournament is extremely hard, how many tournaments would Francesco have to grind in just to win $1M? Looking back at his number over the past few years, 2018 was an anomaly where he made over $5M in PGA TOUR events. In 2017, he made $2.8M. For 2014-2016, he wasn't even in the top 100 on the PGA TOUR money list (couldn't immediately find the Euro Tour list so I'm leaving that out - feel free to look it up for me).



    Will he find the new sticks hard to work with? Maybe, but I'd take the money and roll the dice too.
  • Garush34Garush34 Members Posts: 361 ✭✭
    edited Jan 3, 2019 10:36am #209

    BRS2014 wrote:



    Molinari is proof that these guys value money over success and what "works".

    Cannot believe he is switching anything after having the year he just had...


    It is guaranteed money whatever the dollar amount is. Molinari's stock will never be this high, he has to take the money if offered.

    You can't blame the guy for taking the contract to play one of the top OEMs clubs.


    This times a million. Continued success is never a guarantee. Guaranteed money is. I have no idea what he's getting paid to play, but I wouldn't be surprise if it's in the low seven figures range. Seeing as winning any professional tournament is extremely hard, how many tournaments would Francesco have to grind in just to win $1M? Looking back at his number over the past few years, 2018 was an anomaly where he made over $5M in PGA TOUR events. In 2017, he made $2.8M. For 2014-2016, he wasn't even in the top 100 on the PGA TOUR money list (couldn't immediately find the Euro Tour list so I'm leaving that out - feel free to look it up for me).



    Will he find the new sticks hard to work with? Maybe, but I'd take the money and roll the dice too.




    Here you go, prize money going back to 2013 for Frankie:



    Year Rank Official Prize Money



    2018 1 4,100,889

    2017 9 2,037,703

    2016 19 1,494,932

    2015 32 1,051,251

    2014 35 992,915

    2013 13 1,367,566



    I agree it makes sense to take the money now, the chances of him repeating this form over any other year in his career is unlikely. Might as well cash in while he can.



    Edit: the table changed format when posting, hopefully it show correctly now.
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    Wilson Staff FG Tour Wedges 50, 54, 58, Dynamic Gold
    Odyssey Tank Cruiser #1
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  • LanglandsLanglands ScotlandMembers Posts: 1,941 ✭✭
    No reason to think that Moliari won't play just as well with Callaway clubs, given that he had only just switched to TM the season or so before. I am surprised at the putter change though, is that a club Callaway would insist on being part of the deal?
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    Adams Tight Lies 2 5W
    Callaway 3h
    Snake Eyes 600B 4,6,8
    Vokey 48
    Mizuno MPT Raw Haze 53
    Cobra King Black 60
    Ping Darby
  • daleheaddalehead Members Posts: 1,503 ✭✭
    edited Jan 3, 2019 11:17am #211
    zonadub wrote:

    ctfuzz21 wrote:


    It’s not necessarily that bc Tour Pro Steve plays a brand you will buy it. The player endorsement’s true value is the constant marketing of that brand on Saturday and Sundays from 2-6p and the highlight shows all week after.



    It’s rarely a straight line; more of a constant drip to at least get you to “think” of their brand when it comes time to make a purchasing decision.




    This. ^^^^^



    zonadub wrote:

    ctfuzz21 wrote:


    It’s not necessarily that bc Tour Pro Steve plays a brand you will buy it. The player endorsement’s true value is the constant marketing of that brand on Saturday and Sundays from 2-6p and the highlight shows all week after.



    It’s rarely a straight line; more of a constant drip to at least get you to “think” of their brand when it comes time to make a purchasing decision.




    This. ^^^^^




    Exactly. There are some guys who buy equipment because their favorite pro plays it, e.g. some of the Tiger fans who suddenly discovered Nike clubs were the best for their game. Or all the Ardmore 3 putters that flew off the shelves when Tiger gamed one. As for the guys who say Tour use has no effect on their buying decisions, be honest. You have never considered buying a club because you saw it used by a Tour player? Maybe you bought it, maybe you didn't but you thought about it. This is the process the OP talks about. Apparently it works for the equipment makers. Either that or they are run by a bunch of idiots who are wasting their companies money on player endorsements with no return.



    Here's a prediction for 2019. We will see many discussions here on Golf WRX about Honma equipment, including guys who have purchased it. In contrast you could probably fit the clubs Honma sold in the US in 2018 in my garage. The difference? Justin Rose.
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