Ping vs. Srixon

I'm currently shopping for new irons. I've been testing Srixon 585's and Ping i210. I like both irons a lot and am torn on which one to get. My numbers with a 6-iron are 168 carry, 5410 spin, 29 yards peak height, 45 descent angle. They're both nice - I'm about a club longer with the 585's but I like the look of the i210's over the Srixon.

What do you think?

If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

> @AG12 said:

> If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

Yep!

According to the Maltby website, the Srixon 5-iron is 2-degrees stronger than the i200 5-iron. The Maltby playability factor gives both sets a similar rating, 504 to 474 which is close enough to call it a wash. The distance gain on the Srixon irons is due to the “jacked” lofts. Are the shafts identical in each set you’re testing? AG is correct. Ping offers Power Spec.

Huge Srixon fan here, but would strongly consider the Pings if you like the looks better. The i210 is has a really nice combination of everything most people would need in an iron, and it sounds like they fit your eye. That would mean more to me than a few yards.

I don't think you can go wrong either way.

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Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

Srixons all the way, and you can always combo with the 785s

Pings. I have them and they feel as good as anything I’ve hit. And they perform.

> @GolfChannel said:

> Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

There’s only one thing that feels 100x better than an i210, and we don’t speak of such things on GolfWRX.

Srixons, easy

Srixon 585 irons all the way. I think the look way better than the Ping's and the playability is fantastic. Great distance and accuracy, I did not care for the look and feel of the I 210 irons. Just saying as the Pings are great clubs, just not for me. Keep testing the two sets.

> @GolfChannel said:

> Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

Pings for me! Personally waiting for new release. I think the 210s are due for a makeover?!

> @Indygolfer85 said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

>

> I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

> @GolfChannel said:

> > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> >

> > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

>

> Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

>

> Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

Agreed. iBlade is silly forgiving for the size. That said, they are soft in a dull way - they don't feel forged. They do feel nice, however.

> @balls_deep said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> > >

> > > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

> >

> > Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

> >

> > Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

>

> Agreed. iBlade is silly forgiving for the size. That said, they are soft in a dull way - they don't feel forged. They do feel nice, however.

I agree, couldn’t figure out how to describe it. Pure shots feel great, but powerful and solid. Not clicky at all like the i-series is prone to (even my beloved i200). Pure, but not in a forged kind of way where sometimes you didn’t even realize you hit a ball, but more of a satisfying smash that you just want to step back after the shot and look around so everyone else can admire it.

> @GolfChannel said:

> > @balls_deep said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> > > >

> > > > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

> > >

> > > Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

> > >

> > > Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

> >

> > Agreed. iBlade is silly forgiving for the size. That said, they are soft in a dull way - they don't feel forged. They do feel nice, however.

>

> I agree, couldn’t figure out how to describe it. Pure shots feel great, but powerful and solid. Not clicky at all like the i-series is prone to (even my beloved i200). Pure, but not in a forged kind of way where sometimes you didn’t even realize you hit a ball, but more of a satisfying smash that you just want to step back after the shot and look around so everyone else can admire it.

Absolutely. The forgiveness is actually so surprising given the size. Interestingly though, my local fitter told me he feels like it is the least forgiving in the bracket of clubs I've been trying. I really like them, I'm going to reshaft with PX 6.0 if I keep them though. The S300 just feel like I'm always having to hold have speed. If I hit it hard I'm spinning them too much. Tend to get too much shape right to left as well. I preferred the Cobra MB and 919T to the iBlade during a recent fitting though.

I don't trust Srixon spin at all - I have argued with many on here about it but I'd rather have to hit a knockdown rather than work to hit it high with spin. I know this sounds opposite to the above but I just found the PX 6.0 better than s300 for me. I still get the spin, height, and descent I need with them. The Srixons are very spotty for distance control. Feel amazing though.

> @balls_deep said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

> > > >

> > > > Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

> > > >

> > > > Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

> > >

> > > Agreed. iBlade is silly forgiving for the size. That said, they are soft in a dull way - they don't feel forged. They do feel nice, however.

> >

> > I agree, couldn’t figure out how to describe it. Pure shots feel great, but powerful and solid. Not clicky at all like the i-series is prone to (even my beloved i200). Pure, but not in a forged kind of way where sometimes you didn’t even realize you hit a ball, but more of a satisfying smash that you just want to step back after the shot and look around so everyone else can admire it.

>

> Absolutely. The forgiveness is actually so surprising given the size. Interestingly though, my local fitter told me he feels like it is the least forgiving in the bracket of clubs I've been trying. I really like them, I'm going to reshaft with PX 6.0 if I keep them though. The S300 just feel like I'm always having to hold have speed. If I hit it hard I'm spinning them too much. Tend to get too much shape right to left as well. I preferred the Cobra MB and 919T to the iBlade during a recent fitting though.

They are all comparable, I got on with those irons as well along with the MP18 MB’s. I was quite surprised how good the Cobras were. However, what sold me was how much more forgiving the long irons were in the iBlades. I have never got on with hybrids and while a mixed set sounds sensible I am too anal retentive to ever actually go that route.

I am looking to reshaft the iBlades in September with something heavier than the AWT 2.0 stiff I am currently using.

The 565s look better iyam. Never liked the black on the back of the 585s. Id probably go with the srixons and bend a little weak if you could.

> @GolfChannel said:

> > @balls_deep said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > > > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > > > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > > > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

> > > >

> > > > Agreed. iBlade is silly forgiving for the size. That said, they are soft in a dull way - they don't feel forged. They do feel nice, however.

> > >

> > > I agree, couldn’t figure out how to describe it. Pure shots feel great, but powerful and solid. Not clicky at all like the i-series is prone to (even my beloved i200). Pure, but not in a forged kind of way where sometimes you didn’t even realize you hit a ball, but more of a satisfying smash that you just want to step back after the shot and look around so everyone else can admire it.

> >

> > Absolutely. The forgiveness is actually so surprising given the size. Interestingly though, my local fitter told me he feels like it is the least forgiving in the bracket of clubs I've been trying. I really like them, I'm going to reshaft with PX 6.0 if I keep them though. The S300 just feel like I'm always having to hold have speed. If I hit it hard I'm spinning them too much. Tend to get too much shape right to left as well. I preferred the Cobra MB and 919T to the iBlade during a recent fitting though.

>

> They are all comparable, I got on with those irons as well along with the MP18 MB’s. I was quite surprised how good the Cobras were. However, what sold me was how much more forgiving the long irons were in the iBlades. I have never got on with hybrids and while a mixed set sounds sensible I am too anal retentive to ever actually go that route.

>

> I am looking to reshaft the iBlades in September with something heavier than the AWT 2.0 stiff I am currently using.

Interesting... I should maybe try the 4-6 irons in the Cobra if I want to go that way. They fit my eye but you're right - the long irons in the iBlade are silly easy to hit.

Pings I210s look better to me and I’ve typically not been a fan of ping irons till the I210s and blueprints. The Srixons look chunkier to me.

Get the i210s. I actually have my second set on the way now cause I miss them so much. Played about 10 sets of irons between the first set and this set coming. I210s are that good. They are a different type of soft but the feel of them is phenomenal!

Srixons for sure

> @GolfChannel said:

>The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel.

And THAT is the point where I've got to call bullshit. Sorry. As long as you're not talking the MP 18 Fli His, there is miles between the 545, 565 or 585 and the Mizunos. Period.

Having played Srixon (765/565) and seriously considering i210, I think it's apples to oranges comparison. Feel is so subjective to each individual that it comes down to results and imo Ping makes equipment that is really consistent and predictable. They aren't flashy or do any one thing great but are just solid across the board. And there stuff wears like iron. It's a cliche answer but try both and see which one produces the most consistent results for YOU.

P.S. the V sole and low spin thing are over rated. Spin is a result of loft and strike and the V sole isn't magic. You can still hit them fat or thin like any other iron. I know from experience ?

I’ve played the z585s since April. No spin or distance control issues here. Mine were fit 2* weak.

> @Bunkersarebigcups said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> >The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel.

>

> And THAT is the point where I've got to call ****. Sorry. As long as you're not talking the MP 18 Fli His, there is miles between the 545, 565 or 585 and the Mizunos. Period.

>

>

They use softer carbon steel than Mizuno. Still a Mizuno guy if I was forced to choose, which is why I said rivaled not equals, but your ignorance is showing.

There are a couple guys atop the Open leaderboard that are playing 785’s! Enough said about spin and distance concerns!

> @2717B said:

> There are a couple guys atop the Open leaderboard that are playing 785’s! Enough said about spin and distance concerns!

Yeah because tour players have low spin issues.