Ping vs. Srixon

[boycer]

Buy what ever you think you will keep longer. Or better yet, buy both.

 

2nd round out with my i210 I shot a +2, 73 only hitting 4 of 11 fairways with the driver.

 

I had the z585, seemed to thin a lot of shots.

[Chuck905]

> @2717B said:

> There are a couple guys atop the Open leaderboard that are playing 785’s! Enough said about spin and distance concerns!

 

It would be awesome if Lowry can pull off the Open win tomorrow; Srixon and Cleveland stocks would be deserving for notoriety.

 

I’m not sure why Srixon and Cleveland gets over looked when you consider major wins from k Bradly, McDowell and LPGA wins.

 

Personally, I do consider tour wins when buying an iron set, but that is just me.

 

 

[bird_4_3]

Had 585 and now have 210s. I think the Pings are a better club even though they are shorter. To me they have been more accurate. Both irons are great and I think they are the 2 best manufacturers on the market for irons.

[Krt22]

> @jcorna01 said:

> I’ve played the z585s since April. No spin or distance control issues here. Mine were fit 2* weak.

 

Working well for Shane Lowry as well! I have a 585/785 combo set and a 745/945 combo set and have no spin/distance control issues

[Krt22]

> @GolfChannel said:

> > @Bunkersarebigcups said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > >The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel.

> >

> > And THAT is the point where I've got to call ****. Sorry. As long as you're not talking the MP 18 Fli His, there is miles between the 545, 565 or 585 and the Mizunos. Period.

> >

> >

>

> They use softer carbon steel than Mizuno. Still a Mizuno guy if I was forced to choose, which is why I said rivaled not equals, but your ignorance is showing.

 

The face isn't though. They have such a muted feel because the face is welded on, almost hybrid like construction IMO

 

[Lakers2020]

> @AG12 said:

> If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

 

> @AG12 said:

> If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

I've never heard of 'Power Spec.' Does Ping do that for you?

[Lakers2020]

> @Moonlightgrm said:

> According to the Maltby website, the Srixon 5-iron is 2-degrees stronger than the i200 5-iron. The Maltby playability factor gives both sets a similar rating, 504 to 474 which is close enough to call it a wash. The distance gain on the Srixon irons is due to the “jacked” lofts. Are the shafts identical in each set you’re testing? AG is correct. Ping offers Power Spec.

 

Same shafts - Modus 105 S

[agood3putt]

> @Lakers2020 said:

> > @AG12 said:

> > If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

>

> > @AG12 said:

> > If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

> I've never heard of 'Power Spec.' Does Ping do that for you?

 

Yes wherever you order your clubs from when you custom order the PING's just ask for Power Spec. PING then bends the heads stronger for you.

[Lakers2020]

> @GolfChannel said:

> > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> >

> > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

>

> Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

>

> Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

 

I put the iBlade and Blueprint side by side and noticed the iBlade was a bit larger. Made me think they may be forgiving for a blade.

[2putttom]

unlike women you don't score with looks alone. Go with consistency that's what you will be relying on under pressure.

[GolfChannel]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > > @Bunkersarebigcups said:

> > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > >The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel.

> > >

> > > And THAT is the point where I've got to call ****. Sorry. As long as you're not talking the MP 18 Fli His, there is miles between the 545, 565 or 585 and the Mizunos. Period.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > They use softer carbon steel than Mizuno. Still a Mizuno guy if I was forced to choose, which is why I said rivaled not equals, but your ignorance is showing.

>

> The face isn't though. They have such a muted feel because the face is welded on, almost hybrid like construction IMO

>

 

Or it could your lac> @Lakers2020 said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > > @Indygolfer85 said:

> > > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > > Srixons will feel a hundred times better than the i210’s and perform to boot, but they have always had an inherent draw bias in my opinion. As always, test them first, there are plenty of them out there.

> > >

> > > I disagree. Middle vs middle, yes, the forged iron will feel/sound better. The Pings are among the best feeing irons I’ve ever played (I’ve played quite a few too including 565) if you are even somewhat of an inconsistent ball striker.

> >

> > Most Pings yes (see iBlades), i210’s not so much. The Srixon 5 series rivaled the MP18 series in terms of feel. Again, my only complaint is they seemed to have a natural draw bias and I don’t want the ball to go left. The i210’s are the lifeless version of an excellent iron in the i200. Depends if you want soft (Srixon), click (i210), or a smash/thud (i200) like feeling on shots.

> >

> > Just hit the iBlades. They are easier to hit than you think, soft off the face for cast, and ridiculously user friendly through the set.

>

> I put the iBlade and Blueprint side by side and noticed the iBlade was a bit larger. Made me think they may be forgiving for a blade.

 

They would make an excellent combo set if I was so inclined. That said, I still prefer the iBlade on the whole to the Blueprint. That could change with better shaft offerings.

[manima1]

Don't sleep on the Srixon 7-series. I think most are really surprised how forgiving they are for a one piece forged construction. They are actually score nearly 80 points higher on the maltby play-ability factor than the ping 210's.

[NJgolfer11]

I hit both irons and went with the i210 and I could not be happier. I think the i210 looks better than the 585.

 

I originally was going to go with the Callaway Apex, having had the Razr X Tours for sometime. The Apex went about 5 yards farther on average, but the shot dispersion was much better with the i210 and that was more important. It also helped they were like $400 less as well, ha.

 

Overall, go with is best for you and suits your eye.

[Lakers2020]

The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

[Krt22]

> @Lakers2020 said:

> The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

 

Do you hit the ball when the club is in your bag?

[TIM929]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @Lakers2020 said:

> > The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

>

> Do you hit the ball when the club is in your bag?

 

LOL

[2717B]

I predict the 785’s will be a classic!

[mantan]

> @Lakers2020 said:

> The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

 

Why I pretty much buy closeouts these days. I got my 565s right when the 585s were coming out for half the price.

[Krt22]

You can get brand new srixons for a song if you go through the right channels

[lefty74pgh]

I was a big Ping supporter until I had a few bad fittings and they messed up a few orders. I ended up going with Mizuno and then the Srixon Z585. The issue with the Ping’s for me was spin. I would spin the i200 iron around 7,500-8,000 rpms. I never tried the power spec, but I didn’t want to pay the money for an experiment. The Z585’s give me the feel, distance and control I need.

[NailedIt]

> @Lakers2020 said:

> The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

 

Two words: Discount Dan's. You're welcome.

[asumnerdawg]

> @Krt22 said:

> You can get brand new srixons for a song if you go through the right channels

 

What channels would those be?

[Shilgy]

> @AG12 said:

> > @Lakers2020 said:

> > > @AG12 said:

> > > If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

> >

> > > @AG12 said:

> > > If distance is a need for you and you like the distance the 585's provide you can always get the i210's in Power Spec. Which is anywhere from .5*-1.5* stronger than their standard lofts.

> > I've never heard of 'Power Spec.' Does Ping do that for you?

>

> Yes wherever you order your clubs from when you custom order the PING's just ask for Power Spec. PING then bends the heads stronger for you.

 

All of them? Srixon gaps differently. Which gives less loft early. They use 5° gaps in the short irons and less in the long irons. Which for most players gives equally spaced carries.

Which is more important than the loft numbers.

[Mike_C]

> @lefty74pgh said:

> I was a big Ping supporter until I had a few bad fittings and they messed up a few orders. I ended up going with Mizuno and then the Srixon Z585. The issue with the Ping’s for me was spin. I would spin the i200 iron around 7,500-8,000 rpms. I never tried the power spec, but I didn’t want to pay the money for an experiment. The Z585’s give me the feel, distance and control I need.

 

I spun the i200s with powerspec lofts and Recoil 110 F5s, more than any iron I have ever hit. Don't know if it was the shaft, swingweight, combo of the two or something else. I have played recoil 95s and 125s in other clubs, spin was never an issue. Never understood it.

[dmeeksDC]

I would say compare the 585 to the Ping G410 and the 785 to the 210. I think the 210 feels better than the 585, which has a spring face welded to it — no different than a Mizuno Hot Metal. I don’t think the softness of the steel used for the body matters because the 585 is not a one-piece forging anyway. Of the Pings, I like the i200 in looks and performance better than the 210. The 200 has a lower COG. The 785 is a one-piece forging delivers that forged feel if that is important to you.

[stumptown]

> @Lakers2020 said:

> The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

 

Check out the 785s. Were never on my radar when I was testing because my top two were the same as yours. My fitter made me try them and I haven't looked back.

[rmgatl]

I combo ping i210 with srixon u85 long irons, recoil 95s through set. Terrific.

[Krt22]

> @asumnerdawg said:

> > @Krt22 said:

> > You can get brand new srixons for a song if you go through the right channels

>

> What channels would those be?

 

Find a private dealer. Can find one on here with a WTB ad.

[Krt22]

> @stumptown said:

> > @Lakers2020 said:

> > The prices for irons these days is getting up there. I like the 585 at address but not when they're in the bag.

>

> Check out the 785s. Were never on my radar when I was testing because my top two were the same as yours. My fitter made me try them and I haven't looked back.

 

A combo set like the Champion Golfer of the Year works as well.

[Tommyj]

> @manima1 said:

> Don't sleep on the Srixon 7-series. I think most are really surprised how forgiving they are for a one piece forged construction. They are actually score nearly 80 points higher on the maltby play-ability factor than the ping 210's.

A lot of people refer to MPF scores when comparing iron head forgiveness. I've never found much correlation between MPF and how forgiving an iron iron actually is unless you are comparing a 300 MPF with a 700. Regardless of the MPF scores, Ping i-series irons have generally been reviewed as the most forgiving when you see group tests of better player irons, and that goes as far back as i3's and even earlier.