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Titleist TS3 vs Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero vs TM M5

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  • Bomber_11Bomber_11 Enjoy the Chase.  3562ClubWRX Posts: 3,562
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    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff Montreal 28888Members Posts: 28,888
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    1 of those 3 drivers is released where i live (TS3). So that's my favorite so far.
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  • texcromtexcrom Franklin, TN 3599ClubWRX Posts: 3,599
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    TS3.......longer, sounds better, better looking, and less money.
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    WITB

    Titleist TS3 10.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff 
    Titleist TS3 16.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff
    Titleist U500 3 iron HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 80g Stiff
    Titleist U500 4 iron HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 80g Stiff
    TItleist T100 5 - PW AMT S-300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 48-10F, 52-12F, 56-10S, 60-14K
    Titleist Scotty Cameron T-22 Newport 
    Titleist Pro V1X


    Alternate Bag

    Titleist TS3 9.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 60g Stiff 
    Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW KBS $-Taper stiff
    Titleist Vokey SM7 54-10S, 60-10S

    Titleist Scotty Cameron T-22 Newport 2 

    GO VOLS!
  • moorebaseballmoorebaseball  313Members Posts: 313
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    One of these or one if the new offerings from PING and Mizuno will be in my bag this year. Time will tell.
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  • radimanradiman  4729Members Posts: 4,729
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    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.




    I honestly had such a bad taste in my mouth from the 915 series that I never even tried the 917. After a while, I noticed that it was getting some good feedback. Was it a dog for most? It can be had for a steal now. Plus, it is a beautiful driver. I'm contemplating grabbing one for craps and giggles.
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
    Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
    Taylormade Spider X Navy/White 35"
    Callaway MD3 52, 56, 60
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  • texcromtexcrom Franklin, TN 3599ClubWRX Posts: 3,599
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    radiman wrote:

    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.




    I honestly had such a bad taste in my mouth from the 915 series that I never even tried the 917. After a while, I noticed that it was getting some good feedback. Was it a dog for most? It can be had for a steal now. Plus, it is a beautiful driver. I'm contemplating grabbing one for craps and giggles.




    917 D3 is an excellent driver. Played it with a Diamana white for almost two years. Solid, and a great looking club.



    That being said, the TS3 is noticeably longer (probably because I got properly fitted, as well as a little hotter head), and more forgiving.



    Good luck, you won’t be disappointed.
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    WITB

    Titleist TS3 10.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff 
    Titleist TS3 16.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 70g Stiff
    Titleist U500 3 iron HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 80g Stiff
    Titleist U500 4 iron HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 80g Stiff
    TItleist T100 5 - PW AMT S-300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 48-10F, 52-12F, 56-10S, 60-14K
    Titleist Scotty Cameron T-22 Newport 
    Titleist Pro V1X


    Alternate Bag

    Titleist TS3 9.5 degree HZRDUS Black Smoke 6.0 60g Stiff 
    Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW KBS $-Taper stiff
    Titleist Vokey SM7 54-10S, 60-10S

    Titleist Scotty Cameron T-22 Newport 2 

    GO VOLS!
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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2500ClubWRX Posts: 2,500
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    I thought the 917 sounded and felt great — also very accurate — but it is clear the TS line is superior for distance.



    Like the shape of the Flash SZ but have yet to see it. Some have knocked the sound but I want to hear it for myself.
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    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
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  • tdk8180tdk8180  2417Members Posts: 2,417
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    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro AL 3331ClubWRX Posts: 3,331
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    I loved the 917 d3. Great look and easy to hit fairways. It took some work to get distance out of it, but it was there. Get fit.
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    Titleist TS3 8.5 evenflow white
    Titleist TS2 15* evenflow white 
    Titleist TS3 19 hybrid evenflow white
    Titleist 718 AP2 4-pw kbs tour
    Vokey SM7 52/58 wedges 
    Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5m
  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 1995Members Posts: 1,995
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    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.
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    Titleist TS3 - 9.75* vs. TS2 - 8.75* - Tensei Pro Orange (C1 Setting, STD Fade)
    Titleist U510 1-iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 and 4-iron - KBS C-Taper
    Titleist 716 T-MB 5-PW - DG AMT
    Titleist 718 AP2 50* - DG AMT
    Titleist SM7 55* S-Grind - DG AMT
    Titleist Spin Milled 58.12 - DG Tour Issue
    Evnroll ER6-B
    Bridgestone Tour B X, Titleist Pro V1x
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
  • stk123stk123  455Members Posts: 455
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    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...
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  • Smitty120Smitty120 MD 506Members Posts: 506
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    I agree 100% with your findings Mahamilto.
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 1995Members Posts: 1,995
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    That is the shaft, not the head. The GP6s spun less in my TS3 than the Smoke 6.5



    Yes... GP6s...



    It actually spun so little that it will be on the BST soon.



    Driver SS is 115 or so here as well.
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    Titleist TS3 - 9.75* vs. TS2 - 8.75* - Tensei Pro Orange (C1 Setting, STD Fade)
    Titleist U510 1-iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 and 4-iron - KBS C-Taper
    Titleist 716 T-MB 5-PW - DG AMT
    Titleist 718 AP2 50* - DG AMT
    Titleist SM7 55* S-Grind - DG AMT
    Titleist Spin Milled 58.12 - DG Tour Issue
    Evnroll ER6-B
    Bridgestone Tour B X, Titleist Pro V1x
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8314Members Posts: 8,314
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    F9 has to be tossed in there, too.
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    D - Epic SZ | HZRDUS Smoke Black
    4w - '16 Tour Issue M1 | Diamana B Series
    3h - '17 Tour Issue M1 | Accra TZ6
    Irons - MP-20 SEL 4-PW | Modus 120
    GW - T20 50/7 | Modus 120
    SW - T20 54/8 | Modus 120
    LW - T20 58/12 | Modus 120
    P - Bettinardi 360-M
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS


  • Puttfordough91Puttfordough91  117Banned Posts: 117
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    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.


    Definitely agree
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 1995Members Posts: 1,995
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    I never could get the D2 to spin low enough, and the D3 was great when nutted, but really sprayed if missed.



    To me the TS3 is as easy to hit as the D2, but as low spinning (with higher launch) as the D3
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    Titleist TS3 - 9.75* vs. TS2 - 8.75* - Tensei Pro Orange (C1 Setting, STD Fade)
    Titleist U510 1-iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 and 4-iron - KBS C-Taper
    Titleist 716 T-MB 5-PW - DG AMT
    Titleist 718 AP2 50* - DG AMT
    Titleist SM7 55* S-Grind - DG AMT
    Titleist Spin Milled 58.12 - DG Tour Issue
    Evnroll ER6-B
    Bridgestone Tour B X, Titleist Pro V1x
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky  2039Members Posts: 2,039
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    Imo ts3>m5>flash sz
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  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OH 2211Members Posts: 2,211
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    Ts3 is a monster. One of longest drivers I've hit. Not experience with flash or m5/m6 yet.
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  • SoCalTitleistSoCalTitleist  3256Members Posts: 3,256
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    6.5 is too stiff for 100mph.
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  • Puttfordough91Puttfordough91  117Banned Posts: 117
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    Never had this much trouble trying to decide which direction to go with a driver before
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    TBD
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    Nike vapor fly pro 3 fuji pro 115 ts
    4-9 jpx 919 tour c taper x
    Vokey 48 52 56 60 kbs c taper/hi rev
    Scotty buttonback newport 2
  • tdk8180tdk8180  2417Members Posts: 2,417
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    Mahamilto wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.




    Rick Shiels...ya, I hit a bunch of great shots out of the garage door range at Carls Golfland as well. After he shot in the high 80s at a tournament, I stopped watching his videos. Too many other reviewers out there for me to get some irrelevant information.



    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.



    Maybe I have to try it with my GD Tour AD collection that I have for the Callaway drivers. More fair test that way.



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  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OH 2211Members Posts: 2,211
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    tdk8180 wrote:

    Mahamilto wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.




    Rick Shiels...ya, I hit a bunch of great shots out of the garage door range at Carls Golfland as well. After he shot in the high 80s at a tournament, I stopped watching his videos. Too many other reviewers out there for me to get some irrelevant information.



    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.



    Maybe I have to try it with my GD Tour AD collection that I have for the Callaway drivers. More fair test that way.




    High 80s in a tournament...savage lol
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  • ryan983ryan983  747Members Posts: 747
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    How did you pick up 14 mph club of head speed in such a short period of time?
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 1995Members Posts: 1,995
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    I was just suggesting hitting the same shafts.



    And no, sheils isn’t perfect, but his strike pattern is very similar on gcquad on each review...



    Al I can tell ya is the TS3 easily paced the m5/m6, and maybe was a touch behind, but negligible than the Flash SZ.



    It’s the most apples to apples at this point. He’s not a robot, but his SS, AoA, and strike pattern were the same for each driver per GCQuad (a reference quality LM)



    It’s just safe to say that all the modern drivers will be reasonably close. One isn’t going to blow the doors off any other, unless it’s a poor shaft fit.
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    Titleist TS3 - 9.75* vs. TS2 - 8.75* - Tensei Pro Orange (C1 Setting, STD Fade)
    Titleist U510 1-iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black
    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 and 4-iron - KBS C-Taper
    Titleist 716 T-MB 5-PW - DG AMT
    Titleist 718 AP2 50* - DG AMT
    Titleist SM7 55* S-Grind - DG AMT
    Titleist Spin Milled 58.12 - DG Tour Issue
    Evnroll ER6-B
    Bridgestone Tour B X, Titleist Pro V1x
    Titleist Staff Stand Bag
  • rt_chargerrt_charger Ball Hitter  281Members Posts: 281
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    tdk8180 wrote:


    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.


    Well there's your problem... Titleist woods are not going to work off the rack, you need to be fitted unless you know your specs and what shaft. Comparing their woods off the rack is like driving a car with the seat and mirrors not adjusted for you.
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  • stk123stk123  455Members Posts: 455
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    ryan983 wrote:

    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    How did you pick up 14 mph club of head speed in such a short period of time?




    It was just a commitment to gain swing speed. I was about 110mph 3 years ago, then injury last year got me down to 101mph. Finally healed my injury (for most part) and worked out a ton, ate healthy, and committed to gaining swing speed. Swinging hard, overspeed training, etc. But one of the biggest difference makers was a major swing change as well. I gained back a lot of what I lost, and then some. A whole lot of gym/fitness and dedication. In the end, it was very hard work.
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MO 2928Members Posts: 2,928
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    TS3 is a monster. Beat everything on the market for me in October.



    Haven't tried M5 or Flash, honestly not even tempted. All the reviewers have already shown there is nothing special in them. Seems like we are back to the high launch/low spin phenomenon for extra distance. M5 added no ballspeed from what i saw.



    TS3 was 3mph faster than 2nd place for me. I swing 116-118
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    Titleist TS3 8.5* ...........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX proto 44.5" D5
    Titleist TS2 13.5*..........................................Tensei Pro White 70TX 42.75" D2
    Ping G410 19* H..........................................GD AD IZ 95X 40.25" D4
    Adams Idea Pro Tour Prototype 23*....Aldila Proto By You 80X D3
    Wilson FG Tour V6 5-Gw .........................PX LZ 6.5 +3/8" D2-D5 off 46* Pw
    Mizuno T7 55.09 .........................................PX LZ 6.5 35.5" D6
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  • minteqminteq  2857Members Posts: 2,857
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    For me, the TS3 has been the longest and most forgiving driver I have hit to date. I will hit the Flash SZ and M5 when they come out, but I seriously doubt they will a huge amount better. Plus I like the all black head on the TS range, not to keen on the colors, lines and graphics on the other two. Just my $.02.
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    TS3 is a monster. Beat everything on the market for me in October.



    Haven't tried M5 or Flash, honestly not even tempted. All the reviewers have already shown there is nothing special in them. Seems like we are back to the high launch/low spin phenomenon for extra distance. M5 added no ballspeed from what i saw.



    TS3 was 3mph faster than 2nd place for me. I swing 116-118




    Is high launch and low spin a bad combo? Is it less forgiving and more erratic? Can you please explain pros and cons? Genuinely interested in learning.
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