Hank Haney takes shot at Tiger

[legitimategolf]

> @"Night train" said:

> Hank can be a little outspoken at times, but I've always enjoyed his radio show. He's simply another **victim** of our politically correct society being battered because he spoke bluntly.

 

thoughts and prayers

[starsail85]

I don’t see how saying a Korean is going to win is racist .... race has nothing to do with nationality

[Krt22]

> @Nachosgrande said:

> Amazing how far we’ve regressed, back to the days when you would go to jail for saying that the earth revolves around the sun. Same thing, you can lose everything for stating a fact.

 

Except it wasn't.

 

Haney is a moron. The fact that he ended up being "right" doesn't change that.

[DavePelz4]

Had he said..."You know, I don't have much knowledge on the LPGA these days and would have a hard time naming 6 players. However, I do know that Korea has a national program that is developing some outstanding male and female players and it wouldn't surprise me to see one of the many strong players contend" then he'd be OK.

 

 

BTW, I have applied to be the ambassador to Switzerland.

[legitimategolf]

All this over a stupid popsicle.

[Krt22]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> For anybody looking for the exact context, here is it -

>

> **Co-host Steve Johnson: “This week is the 74th U.S. Women’s Open, Hank.”

>

> Haney: “Oh it is? I’m gonna predict a Korean.”

>

> Johnson, laughing: “OK, that’s a pretty safe bet.”

>

> Haney: “I couldn’t name you six players on the LPGA Tour. Maybe I could. Well … I’d go with Lee. If I didn’t have to name a first name, I’d get a bunch of them right.”**

>

>

> Let's just flip the script real quick and imagine a sport where men, particularly African American men tend to represent a majority of the players. Imagine Erin Andrews or some popular female reporter or sports figure droning on about how she might predict the best 40 yard sprint time for the NFL Combine would be a black guy, etc.

>

> Would nottttt go over well for her. Shouldn't be too different for Haney here.

 

Bingo. Not sure why this is so hard for some to grasp. If you completely marginalize a group of people and take away all of their individualism (especially in an individual sport), there will be flak.

 

What if he predicted the the next PGA tour winner will be a spoon fed country club raised elitist *****. I bet some folks on here would get their panties in a bunch.

[jlbos83]

Taking a shot at Tiger ten years after, and when he at least appears to have learned and changed was a little but cheap.

 

Every time Hank has tweeted since last Wednesday he has only demonstrated that he doesn't even understand where he went wrong.

 

I think in a lot of ways Haney's show has run its course. Now its spent hawking his pain relief cream, bashing the USGA (sometimes well deserved, but without any real suggestions on how to do things differently), and telling callers that would like help that they have to tell him abut their ball flight in order for him to help, and then running out of time to actually help, as he needs to get back to selling pain relief cream.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > I tell you. I have the hardest time picking a side on this one. Can we just roll a grenade into the pile and take care of the twitter trolls , SJWs and Haney ?

> >

> > Interesting that the reports on Haney's original comments didn't mention that Haney's co-host was discussing the KLPGA Lee naming convention prior to Hank's "controversial" comments so it was in context with the conversation. He didn't just pick a random common Korean sounding surname.

> >

> > There is pattern to the way these kind of outrage stories are reported and it often involves the omission of something that gives the comments their proper context this completely changes the meaning and intent.

> >

> > This episode was fading fast and would have been forgotten soon but he's just poured fuel on the fire with the latest comment, madness.

>

> I’ll say this and then stop.

>

> I do not agree with any real ( yes real) racism or sexism. Truly Malicious things.

>

> All Haney is guilty of is being a baby boomer with a platform. And he’s on the lower end of the curve for that particular group. And I’m the first to say Haney is an idiot. But the bridge you’d need to build form idiot to racist is 20 miles long.

>

> And the horribly thick irony that’s connected from his words to the winners name plus nick name. It’s jist too much to not mention. The young lady literally has an addendum to her name to differentiate between the more than 10 others with the same name (6). Not just the sir name. The whole name is same as many others. What he said proved to be more correct than anyone could imagine. Why do we have issue with pointing out the Korean domination ? Why do we have issue with pointing out that a lot of the Korean players have the same name ? This world truly has jumped the shark. And it pains me to even remotely defend Haney. His crime was pointing out the obvious with an absolutely true Nostradamus type prediction.

 

LOL no kidding @bladehunter ! Why is it that some have an issue with Haney pointing out Korean domination of women's golf? They are dominant because they EARNED IT! Add to that, not only are there a lot of Lee's, but she is the 6th "Jeongeun Lee" in KLPGA history hence Lee6! I think you nailed it that the world has jumped the shark!

 

What I do find disappointing with Haney's statement is him broadcasting to a wide audience his lack of interest in the women's golf (even if he really isn't interested, keep it to himself). Golf would be better served with Haney being an ambassador and encouraging participation and interest in all levels of golf and save the snide comment like "oh it is? to himself.

[legitimategolf]

> @jlbos83 said:

 

> I think in a lot of ways Haney's show has run its course. Now its spent hawking his pain relief cream, bashing the USGA (sometimes well deserved, but without any real suggestions on how to do things differently), and telling callers that would like help that they have to tell him abut their ball flight in order for him to help, and then running out of time to actually help, as he needs to get back to selling pain relief cream.

 

I am almost positive that some exec at Sirius/XM is in Hank's ear right now egging him on.

[Krt22]

> @DavePelz4 said:

> Had he said..."You know, I don't have much knowledge on the LPGA these days, so it would be a disservice to all the hard working players in the field to predict a winner.

>

>

> BTW, I have applied to be the ambassador to Switzerland.

 

FTFY

[toc]

> @legitimategolf said:

> > @jlbos83 said:

>

> > I think in a lot of ways Haney's show has run its course. Now its spent hawking his pain relief cream, bashing the USGA (sometimes well deserved, but without any real suggestions on how to do things differently), and telling callers that would like help that they have to tell him abut their ball flight in order for him to help, and then running out of time to actually help, as he needs to get back to selling pain relief cream.

>

> I am almost positive that some exec at Sirius/XM is in Hank's ear right now egging him on.

 

You’re probably not wrong. I had no idea there was pga coverage on Sirius until this story broke.

[Scotty1140]

I get Haney’s point, but Woods was asked a question so he gave an answer. It’s not like Tiger made an unprompted social media speech on Hank’s original comments.

 

Hank would be doing himself a favor if he just shut his mouth at this point.

[Roadking2003]

> @DavePelz4 said:

> Starting to think Hank has more issues than I have.

 

Starting to think Tiger has more issues than I have.

[Roadking2003]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> The outrage 24/7 is tiresome.

Exactly. Some people wake up every day looking for something to be offended by.

[Roadking2003]

> @"Night train" said:

> Hank can be a little outspoken at times, but I've always enjoyed his radio show. He's simply another victim of our politically correct society being battered because he spoke bluntly.

 

Anybody offended by what Hank said needs to get a life.

[Roadking2003]

> @Scotty1140 said:

> I get Haney’s point, but Woods was asked a question so he gave an answer. It’s not like Tiger made an unprompted social media speech on Hank’s original comments.

>

> **Hank would be doing himself a favor if he just shut his mouth at this point. **

So would Tiger. Tiger doesn't benefit from trashing Haney.

[tiderider]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @"Night train" said:

> > Hank can be a little outspoken at times, but I've always enjoyed his radio show. He's simply another victim of our politically correct society being battered because he spoke bluntly.

>

> Anybody offended by what Hank said needs to get a life.

 

lol ... anyone who thinks criticizing hank for his comments is the equivalent of being offended needs to get a life ...

[str8up]

> @legitimategolf said:

> All this over a stupid popsicle.

and here goes hank pissing all over...

 

[MattyO1984]

Finding myself at the point where I can see Hank's point but did it need to be said? Absolutely not. Someone in his position should know better.

[bscinstnct]

@Roadking2003 said:

> > @Scotty1140 said:

> > I get Haney’s point, but Woods was asked a question so he gave an answer. It’s not like Tiger made an unprompted social media speech on Hank’s original comments.

> >

> > **Hank would be doing himself a favor if he just shut his mouth at this point. **

> So would Tiger. Tiger doesn't benefit from trashing Haney.

 

Tiger was asked a question and he answered it.

 

Haney in deep doodoo and I can't imagine he expects TW to throw him a life saver.

 

I hadn't even heard this happened until Haney made his weak swing at TW. Now, he just insured that millions more know about this.

[Scotty1140]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @Scotty1140 said:

> > I get Haney’s point, but Woods was asked a question so he gave an answer. It’s not like Tiger made an unprompted social media speech on Hank’s original comments.

> >

> > **Hank would be doing himself a favor if he just shut his mouth at this point. **

> So would Tiger. Tiger doesn't benefit from trashing Haney.

 

He was directly asked a question. Was he supposed to say “no comment”?

[caniac6]

I see a new book coming from Hank.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @caniac6 said:

> I see a new book coming from Hank.

Then made into a movie!

 

 

[soregongolfer]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> For anybody looking for the exact context, here is it -

>

> **Co-host Steve Johnson: “This week is the 74th U.S. Women’s Open, Hank.”

>

> Haney: “Oh it is? I’m gonna predict a Korean.”

>

> Johnson, laughing: “OK, that’s a pretty safe bet.”

>

> Haney: “I couldn’t name you six players on the LPGA Tour. Maybe I could. Well … I’d go with Lee. If I didn’t have to name a first name, I’d get a bunch of them right.”**

>

>

> Let's just flip the script real quick and imagine a sport where men, particularly African American men tend to represent a majority of the players. Imagine Erin Andrews or some popular female reporter or sports figure droning on about how she might predict the best 40 yard sprint time for the NFL Combine would be a black guy, etc.

>

> Would nottttt go over well for her. Shouldn't be too different for Haney here.

 

The reality is it depends on who said it. If Charles Barkley said a black guy would have the best time, nothing would be said. In fact, it would be laughed at and rightfully so.

 

Haney didn't say anything a lot of us haven't. Popularity for the LPGA has gone down in the US because the Asians dominate. It is what it is. Popularity for men's tennis has been down because there are no Americans who win. And when Serena retires, women's tennis will be in trouble as well unless an American steps up.

 

As for Tiger's comments, he should have left it alone. It should have gone like this:

Reporter: Tiger, did you see Hank Haney's comments in regards to the LPGA.

Tiger: I did and they were unfortunately. However, I've had my own issues in the past and I'm not the guy to condemn anybody.

I would have respected that answer. Instead, he answered the way he did and I rolled my eyes. If Tiger wanted to take a shot at Haney because of the book, then okay. Otherwise, he should have taken the high road.

[Roadking2003]

> @tiderider said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > @"Night train" said:

> > > Hank can be a little outspoken at times, but I've always enjoyed his radio show. He's simply another victim of our politically correct society being battered because he spoke bluntly.

> >

> > Anybody offended by what Hank said needs to get a life.

>

> lol ... anyone who thinks criticizing hank for his comments is the equivalent of being offended needs to get a life ...

 

LOL. I agree.

[Pent08]

The internet was lionizing Haney after the LPGA victory validated his supposedly sexist and racist comment. Why screw that up?

[Roadking2003]

> @Scotty1140 said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > @Scotty1140 said:

> > > I get Haney’s point, but Woods was asked a question so he gave an answer. It’s not like Tiger made an unprompted social media speech on Hank’s original comments.

> > >

> > > **Hank would be doing himself a favor if he just shut his mouth at this point. **

> > So would Tiger. Tiger doesn't benefit from trashing Haney.

>

> He was directly asked a question. Was he supposed to say “no comment”?

 

Yes.

[Ashley Schaeffer]

So, does anyone want to educate me on what TW said?