So, Tiger ....

[27x10.5]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> > @"27x10.5" said:

> > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

 

Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

 

 

[powerpushfade]

Was Augusta a fluke? The curtain call? Is he becoming a ceremonial golfer? Is his heart in it anymore? Did he push himself for that one last, "I told you so" moment? I have no answers at this point. Just questions.

[MK7Golf21]

> @"27x10.5" said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

>

> Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

>

>

He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

[lowheel]

I called it his Jack in 86 moment because we dont know if there will be another. This is his new normal when he doesnt feel his best. If his season ended today it would be a success as it was last year. Curb your expectations and enjoy a living legend. From here on out its all gravy. He realizes hes still very good just not as good day to day.Thats age and injury which is normal. I cant believe I have to defend Tiger 3 months after winning augusta... guys relax

[Whit1969]

From here on out, this is what you are going to get out of Tiger. He has a lifetime exemption status on the PGA Tour, and now with the Masters win he has a five year exemption into the US Open and PGA Championship, combine that with lifetime exemption for the Masters and exemption until he is 60 for the Open Championship. He will just pick an choose tournaments and going forward it will look a lot like this year as far as what events he will play. My guess is he will play the majors, the API, Memorial, and the WGC events and the fed ex cup play offs provided he qualifies for them. Outside of that I do not think you will see him play much at all. In fact he is skipping the WGC in Memphis and probably will not play in the HSBC either. There are only four WGC events so he will probably be playing only two of them moving forward.

 

Honestly it is sad to see him play like he has over the past three majors. My guess is that he is holding on to be Snead's win total and he will hang it up after that regardless of where he is for major victories. I do not think he is focused on beating Jack's major record, as I think he realizes chances of that are pretty slim at this point. What I really can't believe is how well he played and hit the ball at Augusta, off the tee and with his irons to what it is right now.

[lowheel]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> >

> > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> >

> >

> He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

 

on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

[Shilgy]

> @lowheel said:

> I called it his Jack in 86 moment because we dont know if there will be another. This is his new normal when he doesnt feel his best. If his season ended today it would be a success as it was last year. Curb your expectations and enjoy a living legend. From here on out its all gravy. He realizes hes still very good just not as good day to day.Thats age and injury which is normal. I cant believe I have to defend Tiger 3 months after winning augusta... guys relax

 

> @lowheel said:

> I called it his Jack in 86 moment because we dont know if there will be another. This is his new normal when he doesnt feel his best. If his season ended today it would be a success as it was last year. Curb your expectations and enjoy a living legend. From here on out its all gravy. He realizes hes still very good just not as good day to day.Thats age and injury which is normal. I cant believe I have to defend Tiger 3 months after winning augusta... guys relax

 

Well said Low. At this point we do not know if that was his Jack ‘86 moment but it may have been. The most disappointing thing to me is he was in general more competitive last year.

 

I hope he finds a few more wins but he’s still the best I’ve seen play. Ps yes that photo is from today on hole 7.

 

 

 

[bscinstnct]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> > >

> > > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> > >

> > >

> > He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

>

> on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

 

If golf destroyed his back. Doesn’t make much sense to keep doing what practically crippled him in the first place.

 

 

[redfirebird08]

Honestly would not be surprised if he retires at the end of this season.

[farmer]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> > >

> > > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> > >

> > >

> > He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

>

> on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

 

Agree with both. If Tiger is not healthy enough to prepare, he cannot compete. If he's still having this much back soreness, that seems a bad sign.

[MK7Golf21]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> > >

> > > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> > >

> > >

> > He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

>

> on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

 

I think my expectations are just high coming off that surgery because he was basically right there for most of the tournaments in 2018 leading up to tour championship win and then the masters win this year. Been a sharp drop off since then

[tsecor]

Tiger barely cares. He didn't even try day 1, and his presser after his missed cut tells it all. he clearly isn't motivated. He should have stayed home. he says he needs time off...he barely plays!!! two missed cuts in majors after the fluky Masters win......sounds unmotivated or just old

[ohioglfr]

Thursday, Tiger looked stiff and less than happy. I believe the spinal fusion simply bought him enough time to win one more major. It's going to become a quality of life issue for him . . . keep pushing himself to get that next major (increasingly improbable) and suffer more, or gracefully retire from professional golf with an impressive legacy that stands tall among the greats of the sport. He could find other, worthwhile pursuits and, If he retires now, preserve his body for the occasional leisure round for years to come.

[DLiver]

I think Tiger is limited by his surgeries to the point where he can't really practice much. I think when he does practice, he is sore afterwards and pays a price not only in personal discomfort but also in limiting his ability to play with his kids and enjoy other activities. This is not a prescription for becoming a winner of majors.

[Golfjack]

He probably had his surgery, worked great, swinging 120 mph, tons of tournaments, over did it, swinging slower now, still too many tournaments, and now slow and only majors. I think he skips the tour championship, gets healthy for next year. He’s kind of gone from one extreme to another. I think he wrecked his body from over training, but that’s also how he got there. Oh well. Next year he’ll know his new body better.

[Dave230]

Feel that Tiger from the moment he came back in 2018 he had one goal and a short enough timeframe to do it with his back - win another major. When he achieved it, he proved everyone wrong and deserves immense credit. But winning 4 more majors was just not a realistic goal, that's Koepka or McIlroy's career so far and would require day to day dedication of Tiger in his 20s. Not sure Woods wants that and can't blame him. Hope he gets two more PGA Tour event to beat Snead's record, that's a more achievable goal.

[BearQ]

As proven so many times prior

 

Most tiger predictions have been wrong. Let’s see what happens. Wins a masters and maybe a fedex event in 19 = great season.

 

He could easily get back to having another strong year in 20,21,22. We just don’t know.

 

He’s been off his game at the PGA and this week (although he should have been 65-66 today). That’s really all the material we have. Not enough to forecast the future. It’s golf, game of hot stretches.

[Choclab]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> yea, Tiger hasn't been the same since the masters win really. It's like that masters win scratched an inch and now he is just taking it slow an easy. He didn't show up ready to win any of the majors after the win.

 

I got, and still get, the feeling that Tiger set it as his biggest goal to win a major when his kids were old enough to see and appreciate it. Now that he's accomplished that, I think a lot of his motivation is gone.

 

That's probably understandable with as hard as he reportedly has to work to even get ready to play each day.

 

 

[Titleist_PT23]

> @Whit1969 said:

> From here on out, this is what you are going to get out of Tiger. He has a lifetime exemption status on the PGA Tour, and now with the Masters win he has a five year exemption into the US Open and PGA Championship, combine that with lifetime exemption for the Masters and exemption until he is 60 for the Open Championship. He will just pick an choose tournaments and going forward it will look a lot like this year as far as what events he will play. My guess is he will play the majors, the API, Memorial, and the WGC events and the fed ex cup play offs provided he qualifies for them. Outside of that I do not think you will see him play much at all. In fact he is skipping the WGC in Memphis and probably will not play in the HSBC either. There are only four WGC events so he will probably be playing only two of them moving forward.

>

> Honestly it is sad to see him play like he has over the past three majors. My guess is that he is holding on to be Snead's win total and he will hang it up after that regardless of where he is for major victories. I do not think he is focused on beating Jack's major record, as I think he realizes chances of that are pretty slim at this point. What I really can't believe is how well he played and hit the ball at Augusta, off the tee and with his irons to what it is right now.

I think he can keep playing the PGA Championship as long as he wants to (just like the Masters and Open until 60). DL3 kept playing the PGA for many years, and I can't imagine he was otherwise able to qualify. So the 5 years into the U.S. Open is probably the biggest thing. Although maybe this only matters for like years 4 and 5, as he probably would have qualified anyways for the next two years and you know he'll get an exemption or two if he can/wants to play.

 

I hope he can pass Snead's record too. I also hope he skips this year's playoffs/Tour Championship, although that didn't seem to be his intention based on the remarks he made. If there are health constraints, other than playing a bit more until he gets two more wins, I can't really say there's a reason to play after the Open.

 

We are all guessing but my gut instinct is that his health is also a significant constraint vs. just being content after the Masters win. I guess it could also be that his health is no worse than what it was before the Masters (he withdrew from the API), but he just pushed himself through it then because he felt he was close. If so, then I can see the "being content" arguments for the rest of this year. But if true (health status), that doesn't bold well for his outlook.

[buckeye440]

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> Sad in Memphis...

>

> https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/columnists/mark-giannotto/2019/07/19/tiger-woods-wgc-memphis-fedex-st-jude-commitment/1743860001/

 

NE Ohio is still sad...

[buckeye440]

Tiger should really consider hanging it up if he is too sore to practice? What does he think his 50s or 60s will look like? Would hate to see him become addicted to painkillers.

[hwwong]

First time I've actually thought, "man, he's looking old." Something about the oversized vest, slow swing and his resting bitch face. Obviously he needs heat/warm weather, but I fear the worst.

[MK7Golf21]

> @buckeye440 said:

> Tiger should really consider hanging it up if he is too sore to practice? What does he think his 50s or 60s will look like? Would hate to see him become addicted to painkillers.

 

I think that is why he had toned it down so much after that masters win

 

 

[short game]

Played 4 tournaments since the Masters. Only playing 7 holes in practice rounds. The dude is hurting and not healthy. Been obvious since Bethpage.

[Marco]

With a fusion you have constant stiffness in the lumbar and neck, not easy to swing, weather doesn't help, he probably realized that and just didnt practice enough

[lowheel]

> @Redjeep83 said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> > > >

> > > > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> > > >

> > > >

> > > He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

> >

> > on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

>

> I think my expectations are just high coming off that surgery because he was basically right there for most of the tournaments in 2018 leading up to tour championship win and then the masters win this year. Been a sharp drop off since then

 

Dont underestimate the adrenaline factor. The wear and tear of the season showed up and maybe theres some carry over. he played a very conservative schedule prior to augusta as well. he just doesnt have it right now which is okay.The wgc will be sweltering hot and maybe that helps him. not too many drivers off the tee either. oops just read hes not playing, forget i said anything

[lowheel]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > @Redjeep83 said:

> > > > > > @"27x10.5" said:

> > > > > > This wasn’t that bad, look at the other names that are only a couple shots better that will also be missing the cut. It’s cool to see him play at all

> > > > > Look at how many cuts Tiger has missed in his career, missed the past two major cuts. It's very bad for him

> > > >

> > > > Disagree...guy has hardware in his spine and it’s cold and raining. Pressure changes from flying and weather, people call out of work for less

> > > >

> > > >

> > > He basically didn't practice and didn't play any tournaments between a rusty us open showing and the british open. He went on vacation and didn't touch a club according to him. Of course your not going to compete.

> >

> > on top of that he said he couldnt touch a club because of the soreness and he thought rest would be beneficial. It happens. Hes still not giving back his green jacket for better performances the last 3 months. The stars aligned for him and he hit clutch shots down the stretch. it took everything out of him emotionally and physically. For me he can take the rest of the year off i wouldnt care, but thats just me

>

> If golf destroyed his back. Doesn’t make much sense to keep doing what practically crippled him in the first place.

>

>

 

guys like him and Phil love the juice. they cant leave it. Look at guys like watson and langer.Theyll need to be in a wheel chair to stop playing

[golfheaven69]

When Tiger doesn’t play well his fans come with excuses. He stunk it up. Plain and simple.

[bscinstnct]

> @golfheaven69 said:

> When Tiger doesn’t play well his fans come with excuses. He stunk it up. Plain and simple.

 

 

Yeah, I bet TW faking this whole back fusion! Anyone even see the x-rays?

 

What a phony baloney.

 

 

[TheMoneyShot]

> @Titleist99 said:

> Tiger will be ready for the play offs ……...

 

Yes he will?