Titleist ProV1x vs Taylormade Tour Preferred X

[TheBoomer]

Compared them both at the Kingdom on a California Course.
Played the ProV1x for a very long time and made my first and only Hole N One with that ball so Im kinda of bias towards the ball.

Driver : TM TPX was a longer and more durable.
Irons : Prov1x was Longer with Long Irons but the TPX was higher and held greens better
Short Game : This is where TPX showed its true colors with how much you can hold the green with a Hard'ish ball and but very nice spin on the ball.
Putter: TPX felt softer and less clicky kinda like a ProV1

The TPX that I played with was a prototype and did turn to a yellowish tint at the end of the round.
The ProV1x stayed true to its color but was alot more scuffed than the TPX.

Better ball ............... who knows.

Is TM going to stop re- branding their balls and stick with this line to compete with Titleist ? Only time will tell.

My favorite ball is still the original Penta,

[Tiger512]

I played the TPX for 36. It has an incredible cover. Putts, very well, good feeling off the irons as well. I think the Callaway SR balls are a tad longer and better in the wind IMO.

[yahtzee]

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[quote name='yahtzee' timestamp='1400596118' post='9331189']
Played 85 holes this past weekend...Played first 36 with TPX but went back to the ProV1x for remainder of weekend (and I am as big of a TM guy as you will ever meet).....It just didnt perform as well for me.....That said, I will be giving it another side by side this week at my home course to get a better idea and will check back in.
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yahtzee,
Just curious, for you, where did V1x beat TPx... Do you mind sharing some details? Thanks, my friend!
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That's a great question...I think it was more of a gut reaction than anything, if that makes sense...I was playing an away course that was wet. Will give more insight after my home course run.

[Go_Blue!]

[quote name='TheBoomer ' timestamp='1400605823' post='9332451']
Compared them both at the Kingdom on a California Course.
Played the ProV1x for a very long time and made my first and only Hole N One with that ball so Im kinda of bias towards the ball.

Driver : TM TPX was a longer and more durable.
Irons : Prov1x was Longer with Long Irons but the TPX was higher and held greens better
Short Game : This is where TPX showed its true colors with how much you can hold the green with a Hard'ish ball and but very nice spin on the ball.
Putter: TPX felt softer and less clicky kinda like a ProV1

The TPX that I played with was a prototype and did turn to a yellowish tint at the end of the round.
The ProV1x stayed true to its color but was alot more scuffed than the TPX.

Better ball ............... who knows.

[b]Is TM going to stop re- branding their balls and stick with this line to compete with Titleist ? Only time will tell.[/b]

My favorite ball is still the original Penta,
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This would be a very smart move.

[nitram]

[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1396154217' post='8978737']
Pat,
I just played Torrey in 20 mph winds also on Monday... Same day as you? That was the day I decided the TP (non x) is my ball for 2014.
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Me too Bone. It seems to be a Lethal with more green-side spin, which is optimal for me. I've only played a few rounds with it but so far I'm as happy with this as any ball I've ever played.

[jonn443]

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[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1396154217' post='8978737']
Pat,
I just played Torrey in 20 mph winds also on Monday... Same day as you? That was the day I decided the TP (non x) is my ball for 2014.
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Me too Bone. It seems to be a Lethal with more green-side spin, which is optimal for me. I've only played a few rounds with it but so far I'm as happy with this as any ball I've ever played.
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Ok, so how does the TP compare to the ProV1?

[TripleSingle]

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[quote name='nitram' timestamp='1400764282' post='9346025']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1396154217' post='8978737']
Pat,
I just played Torrey in 20 mph winds also on Monday... Same day as you? That was the day I decided the TP (non x) is my ball for 2014.
[/quote]

Me too Bone. It seems to be a Lethal with more green-side spin, which is optimal for me. I've only played a few rounds with it but so far I'm as happy with this as any ball I've ever played.
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Ok, so how does the TP compare to the ProV1?
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long story short, it's better, without any doubts whatsoever

[jonn443]

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[quote name='nitram' timestamp='1400764282' post='9346025']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1396154217' post='8978737']
Pat,
I just played Torrey in 20 mph winds also on Monday... Same day as you? That was the day I decided the TP (non x) is my ball for 2014.
[/quote]

Me too Bone. It seems to be a Lethal with more green-side spin, which is optimal for me. I've only played a few rounds with it but so far I'm as happy with this as any ball I've ever played.
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Ok, so how does the TP compare to the ProV1?
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long story short, it's better, without any doubts whatsoever
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Spin wise? durability? Can you give me a brief comparison?

[gmoney]

For me the TP ball is awesome. I was a Prov1 and 1x player (depending on conditions)

Similar spin around the greens to the the Prov1 but longer than the Prov1 off the driver.
Better spin around the greens than the Pro v1x and just as long off the driver.

The TP ball gives me Prov1x distance with Prov1 feel and spin around the greens.

Tried the TPx and hated it. Too hard. I swing 107-110, & my 7 iron is my 175yd club to give you an idea about me.

Couldn't seem to compress the TPx. Felt like a Pinnacle to me

JMHO

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[G-Bone]

[quote name='gmoney' timestamp='1400776835' post='9347511']
For me the TP ball is awesome. I was a Prov1 and 1x player (depending on conditions)

Similar spin around the greens to the the Prov1 but longer than the Prov1 off the driver.
Better spin around the greens than the Pro v1x and just as long off the driver.

The TP ball gives me Prov1x distance with Prov1 feel and spin around the greens.

Tried the TPx and hated it. Too hard. I swing 107-110, & my 7 iron is my 175yd club to give you an idea about me.

Couldn't seem to compress the TPx. Felt like a Pinnacle to me

JMHO

G
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Great comparison... I agree 100%

[jonn443]

[quote name='gmoney' timestamp='1400776835' post='9347511']
For me the TP ball is awesome. I was a Prov1 and 1x player (depending on conditions)

Similar spin around the greens to the the Prov1 but longer than the Prov1 off the driver.
Better spin around the greens than the Pro v1x and just as long off the driver.

The TP ball gives me Prov1x distance with Prov1 feel and spin around the greens.

Tried the TPx and hated it. Too hard. I swing 107-110, & my 7 iron is my 175yd club to give you an idea about me.

Couldn't seem to compress the TPx. Felt like a Pinnacle to me

JMHO

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Sweet..great to hear! Looks like my chrome + might have some competition, hard to beat the spin AND the price of the chrome + though.

[TripleSingle]

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[quote name='gmoney' timestamp='1400776835' post='9347511']
For me the TP ball is awesome. I was a Prov1 and 1x player (depending on conditions)

Similar spin around the greens to the the Prov1 but longer than the Prov1 off the driver.
Better spin around the greens than the Pro v1x and just as long off the driver.

The TP ball gives me Prov1x distance with Prov1 feel and spin around the greens.

Tried the TPx and hated it. Too hard. I swing 107-110, & my 7 iron is my 175yd club to give you an idea about me.

Couldn't seem to compress the TPx. Felt like a Pinnacle to me

JMHO

G
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Sweet..great to hear! Looks like my chrome + might have some competition, hard to beat the spin AND the price of the chrome + though.
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I thought the chrome+ was the best ball considering in price/durability/performance.
But lets take price out of that equation, I'm giving it to the TP line.
Pretty much everything gmoney mentioned, but where I was very impressed with the TP was the way it felt off the putter. Very soft, but not mushy, and no "clicky" sound like the previous TP or Cally balls.
I highly suggest try a dozen of the TP if you're a ProV1 user. Its basically a very long version the ProV1.

[Hat Trick]

My driver swing speed is 97-100 mph and I am getting 10-12 yards more from the TPX than the Pro V1X??? I also like the feel of the TPX off my irons and around the green as well. I have always been a Pro V1X player but am wrestling with being disloyal to Titleist for the first time in 7 years and kicking the V1X out of my bag for the TPX.

[drewtaylor21]

Interesting reading through this thread. I am a longtime ProV1X'er and have been testing a few different balls this year. Tried the Nike RZN Black....short game and putting did not perform well at all. Still too clicky and rolled out more than I liked. Next i tried the TPX and TP. I LOVE the TPX off the tee and around/on the greens, but for some reason, it did not spin enough for me on approach shots. I had several well-struck mid-iron shots roll through the green on a course that wasn't especially firm or fast. Big disappointment. The ball has much better durability than the V1x, and I liked it better off the tee, but the mid iron lack of spin was a deal breaker for me. Found the TP to fix that problem nicely, but too much spin off the tee. If they could somehow combine off the tee performance of the TPX with everything else in the TP, that would be the most ridiculous ball ever!

So....after all that, I'm back to playing the ProV1x.

[jschwarb]

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[quote name='TheBoomer ' timestamp='1400605823' post='9332451']
Compared them both at the Kingdom on a California Course.
Played the ProV1x for a very long time and made my first and only Hole N One with that ball so Im kinda of bias towards the ball.

Driver : TM TPX was a longer and more durable.
Irons : Prov1x was Longer with Long Irons but the TPX was higher and held greens better
Short Game : This is where TPX showed its true colors with how much you can hold the green with a Hard'ish ball and but very nice spin on the ball.
Putter: TPX felt softer and less clicky kinda like a ProV1

The TPX that I played with was a prototype and did turn to a yellowish tint at the end of the round.
The ProV1x stayed true to its color but was alot more scuffed than the TPX.

Better ball ............... who knows.

[b]Is TM going to stop re- branding their balls and stick with this line to compete with Titleist ? Only time will tell.[/b]

My favorite ball is still the original Penta,
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This would be a very smart move.
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I kinda think they might. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, and TM has a mirror-image product to Titleist. Look at the boxes for the TP and TPx -- one gold, one black. Plus the fact that there is an original and an "x" model. This ain't a coincidence. We'll see if TM has the discipline or desire to change the balls only every two years, and subtle changes at that. They really are very, very good balls.

[MCoz]

Couple of interesting notes:

The new NCAA champ Cameron Wilson won using the TaylorMade TPX ball while carrying a bag with clubs from 5 or 6 different companies and yet NONE from TaylorMade! I spoke with some OEMs in Carlsbad and haven't found one that knows what kind of club contract and with whom when he turns pro in a couple of weeks.

I have asked some PGA and Senior PGA friends who play the ProV1s why is it their preference with a lot of good balls out there now, contract or ?. The answers were almost all of the same. Familiarity with it. Other balls are better in the wind but they don't have to get used to playing less side to side movement. They just have found other balls (notably the TMs and Bridgetones) "too straight" for what they are used to. The Acushnet ball-shoe-contract was mentioned also. A couple have noted that if they had better deals offered they might try to get used to a straighter ball. Interestingly that is why some of the the bigger names used to fight to keep their older versions and fought off going to the newer ProVs. It is not unusual to find 3-4 different generations of these on Tour, they just don't announce it.

[Maximilian]

How do people find the launch angle on these?

I found a TP-X today and played it the last four holes. I didn't do a side by side comparison with My usual V1X, so kinda hard to tell, but thinking it launched a bit higher off of all clubs? Or did I just get lazy with my angle of attack?

Not sure it spun enough for me with my irons, but am skeptic to try the non X model if it's supposed to launch higher. I'm already a bit too high as it is.

[Maximilian]

Sorry for double post, but a new question... Looking at the GD test charts, the non X model is one of the spinniest (second spinniest tour ball) off the driver. Are people still handling this ok?

How's side spin compared to something else? Ballooning any?

Thanks!

[jtd433]

I've played both balls this year and feel that the tpX is the longest ball I have ever played..

[Exist]

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I've played both balls this year and feel that the tpX is the longest ball I have ever played..
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Have you ever hit a Wilson FG Tour X?

I'm getting through my stash of Lethals and I absolutely love this ball. Which one is closest to Lethal out of TP and TPx?

[KILLEDBYASHANKEDWEDGE]

After using the last of the TP5's , my son is putting the TPX in play at tomorrow's tournament

[Hat Trick]

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[quote name='jtd433' timestamp='1401473668' post='9397503']
I've played both balls this year and feel that the tpX is the longest ball I have ever played..
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Have you ever hit a Wilson FG Tour X?

I'm getting through my stash of Lethals and I absolutely love this ball. Which one is closest to Lethal out of TP and TPx?
[/quote]TPX

[RobotDoctor]

Count me in as a career long Titleist golf ball player switching to the TP.

[VTHOKIES]

Great comparisons. I have also been a long time Titleist ball user from the old balata days and this year I tried the Callaway SR3 ball and it was way to hard for my liking so I went back to the ProV1x but a buddy of mine gave me a TPx ball and I used it for 18 holes. It felt very similar to the 1x but the spin on my driver was way less as well as my irons. I hit the TPx and it would hit and stop where is the 1x would hit and back up 5-8 ft. The feel off the club head is "smooth", not hard not mushy. Green side spin is great for me as well especially with pitches and long chips. The 1x sometimes would hit and check and other times it would release. With the TPx it would hit and release consistently which made it easy to adjust.

The ball also held up better then the Titleist. I have switched to the TPx and haven't looked back. This surprised me because I hated the Lethal and the Penta but love the TPx.

[Warrick]

Another long time ProV1x guy that has switched to TPX, absolutely love the ball.

[tbowles411]

I saw this thread. I had a sleeve of 2014 ProV1x and picked up a sleeve of the TPX and went out to play. Regardless of the commercials, the TPX felt better (softer) and performed a bit better than the Titleist. Launches a bit higher, I got a bit more spin, but not bad sidespin. Less so than the PV1x. I usually don't use either ball, so I don't have a dog in the fight. But TM has a pretty good ball. Very nice ball if you're stuck choosing.

Now only if I could putt...

[drvrwdge]

Not sure if it's just me or not but the Pro V1x just seems to make my bad shots worse.. cant really say its because of more spin because I seem to spin back other "x" tour balls the same amount but the Pro V1x definitely seems to generate more side spin. Both draws and fades seem to work more in either direction when hit with the Pro V1x. Not sure if it's the dimple patter, core or what it is. Maybe it's just mental but it's in my head now so Ill be looking to try ther TPX or go back to the B330. Have played the regular TP and didn't have these issues.

[Taylorcam11]

I have played Pro V1 X's since they came out! I have always been a titleist guy. I was on a full scholarship in college and we had a deal with Titleist. After college since i didn't get balls for free anymore i started trying different balls. I have switched to the Taylormade Tour Preferred X's. Absolutely love them! To me they are about 3-5 yards longer off the tee and just as soft. I believe they spin just as good as a Pro V1 X around the greens as well as full shots into greens. I also think that the TPX is much more durable than the Pro VX. I played one round with a taylormade, and haven't played a Pro V since! And by the way, you can get a dozen Taylormade Tour Preferred X's for 35 bucks on amazon prime right now! I hope this helps!

[Sweet-Lou]

I have always been a ProV1x guy, but with the TP5x being on the market for a bit now...I found a dozen Tour Preferred Xs for $20 and thought...what the heck.

I'm writing this review because I have a feeling other ProV1 guys will be curious to test out TM, and will start with their discounted TP line before jumping onto the new TP5.

 

Look:

Same look as a ProV1x. The TPx almost looked smoother -- as if the dimple's edges (the ridges between the dimples) were less severe compared to the ProV1x.

TPx did not lose its gleaming white color as quickly as a ProV1x, and with a quick wipe they were almost back to new.

TPx held up far better than a ProV1x. Only one shot in 6 holes put the slightest micro cut in the TPx cover. But, I know from past experiences...it would have cut the ProV1x far worse.

Summary:The TPx really is a "play till you lose it" ball. This made losing one to a cruel bounce all the more painful because i knew I could have played it another 9-12 holes before needing to replace it ::sigh::**

Winner: TPx

 

Feel:

Woods: TPx feels and sounds less clicky than a ProV1x. Especially on off-center drives. A great, firm smooth-POP feel.

Irons: Again, TPx is less clicky than ProV1x. I would have sworn I was playing a "softer ball"...though it still had the firm X feeling ProV1xers enjoy.

Wedges/Greenside: Really felt the TPx on the clubface vs some ProV1x shots that feel like they bounce off too quick. Nice soft feel.

Putter: WOW! What a difference. TPx was soft, and smooth. The sound was so nice, no click or smoooosh.

Take Away: Same umph, and firm pop. But, TPx definitely has a slightly more muffled cover.

Winner: TPx

 

Performance:

Driver: On well struck drives, TPx and ProV1x were identical. But, on off centered hits the TPx appeared to spin a touch less. Kept a touch straighter on more toe/heel shots, and didn't balloon on high face shots or scuttle and die on low face shots.

Irons Distance: Definitely noticed a higher, but more boring iron flight with the TPx. Gained 5 yards with TPx. Slightly off centered hits seemed to hold their distance with the TPx, while the ProV1x flooffed and dropped.

Irons Control: The TPx is definitely harder to hit big fades/draws. But, playable fades/draws feel far more solid and under control with the TPx.

Irons/Wedges Backspin: By the numbers the TPx spins less than the ProV1x. But, when it comes to on course play...I didn't notice any difference. If anything the extra peak-height gave TPx more stopping power then the ProV1x on the average hit.

Short Game Play: I could hit all my ProV1x shots with the TPx with ease. The TPx felt more predictable on short pitches. The ProV1x did stop a foot quicker on more lofted shots (lob over bunker etc)

Take Away: If you like hitting more than 20yrd fades/draws into greens, you might be annoyed by TPx's straighter flight. Similarly, players who prefer high lobs inside 70 yards versus low controlled pitches might suffer from TPx's slightly lower spin. For me, I prefer predictable instead of hoping to control something that can MAX out numbers.

Winner: TPx

 

Final Take Away:

After all the shots I hit with both the ProV1x and the TPx...I can boil the difference down to one analogy.

 

You have to choose between one of two dogs to keep as a pet:

Titus is one of the best dogs you could ask for. His mom was a Westminster show dog, and he's obedient enough to take duck hunting with you. But, he'll chew stuff up and replacing everything is getting expensive, and he'll run away if you leave the door open.

Taylor is a mutt. But, she is a fantastic dog. Super obedient, always down for whatever you throw at her, and has never caused you a lick of trouble...not even a ruined shoe. She won't take home any ribbons, but she's such a good dog.

 

Unless Taylormade messes up their TP line in the future...I have a feeling I've purchased my last ProV1x

While some of the day's absolute best shots belonged to the ProV1x...most of the bad ones did as well. I will be playing the TPx because of its predictable, consistent, controllable performance. I feel like I can just swing with the TPx, where I would be calculating and worrying with the ProV1x because I knew just how much spin its capable of producing. That MAX spin was something that I loved about the ProV1x...until I realized that the only reason I was hitting 20y draws into greens was because I could, not because I needed to. I'll stick with a taller 10y draw that stops just as quick.

 

(Now I just need to get my hands on a sample box of TP5x to test them out!)

[sllabflog]

I have always been a ProV1x guy, but with the TP5x being on the market for a bit now...I found a dozen Tour Preferred Xs for $20 and thought...what the heck.

I'm writing this review because I have a feeling other ProV1 guys will be curious to test out TM, and will start with their discounted TP line before jumping onto the new TP5.

 

Look:

Same look as a ProV1x. The TPx almost looked smoother -- as if the dimple's edges (the ridges between the dimples) were less severe compared to the ProV1x.

TPx did not lose its gleaming white color as quickly as a ProV1x, and with a quick wipe they were almost back to new.

TPx held up far better than a ProV1x. Only one shot in 6 holes put the slightest micro cut in the TPx cover. But, I know from past experiences...it would have cut the ProV1x far worse.

Summary:The TPx really is a "play till you lose it" ball. This made losing one to a cruel bounce all the more painful because i knew I could have played it another 9-12 holes before needing to replace it ::sigh::**

Winner: TPx

 

Feel:

Woods: TPx feels and sounds less clicky than a ProV1x. Especially on off-center drives. A great, firm smooth-POP feel.

Irons: Again, TPx is less clicky than ProV1x. I would have sworn I was playing a "softer ball"...though it still had the firm X feeling ProV1xers enjoy.

Wedges/Greenside: Really felt the TPx on the clubface vs some ProV1x shots that feel like they bounce off too quick. Nice soft feel.

Putter: WOW! What a difference. TPx was soft, and smooth. The sound was so nice, no click or smoooosh.

Take Away: Same umph, and firm pop. But, TPx definitely has a slightly more muffled cover.

Winner: TPx

 

Performance:

Driver: On well struck drives, TPx and ProV1x were identical. But, on off centered hits the TPx appeared to spin a touch less. Kept a touch straighter on more toe/heel shots, and didn't balloon on high face shots or scuttle and die on low face shots.

Irons Distance: Definitely noticed a higher, but more boring iron flight with the TPx. Gained 5 yards with TPx. Slightly off centered hits seemed to hold their distance with the TPx, while the ProV1x flooffed and dropped.

Irons Control: The TPx is definitely harder to hit big fades/draws. But, playable fades/draws feel far more solid and under control with the TPx.

Irons/Wedges Backspin: By the numbers the TPx spins less than the ProV1x. But, when it comes to on course play...I didn't notice any difference. If anything the extra peak-height gave TPx more stopping power then the ProV1x on the average hit.

Short Game Play: I could hit all my ProV1x shots with the TPx with ease. The TPx felt more predictable on short pitches. The ProV1x did stop a foot quicker on more lofted shots (lob over bunker etc)

Take Away: If you like hitting more than 20yrd fades/draws into greens, you might be annoyed by TPx's straighter flight. Similarly, players who prefer high lobs inside 70 yards versus low controlled pitches might suffer from TPx's slightly lower spin. For me, I prefer predictable instead of hoping to control something that can MAX out numbers.

Winner: TPx

 

Final Take Away:

After all the shots I hit with both the ProV1x and the TPx...I can boil the difference down to one analogy.

 

You have to choose between one of two dogs to keep as a pet:

Titus is one of the best dogs you could ask for. His mom was a Westminster show dog, and he's obedient enough to take duck hunting with you. But, he'll chew stuff up and replacing everything is getting expensive, and he'll run away if you leave the door open.

Taylor is a mutt. But, she is a fantastic dog. Super obedient, always down for whatever you throw at her, and has never caused you a lick of trouble...not even a ruined shoe. She won't take home any ribbons, but she's such a good dog.

 

Unless Taylormade messes up their TP line in the future...I have a feeling I've purchased my last ProV1x

While some of the day's absolute best shots belonged to the ProV1x...most of the bad ones did as well. I will be playing the TPx because of its predictable, consistent, controllable performance. I feel like I can just swing with the TPx, where I would be calculating and worrying with the ProV1x because I knew just how much spin its capable of producing. That MAX spin was something that I loved about the ProV1x...until I realized that the only reason I was hitting 20y draws into greens was because I could, not because I needed to. I'll stick with a taller 10y draw that stops just as quick.

 

(Now I just need to get my hands on a sample box of TP5x to test them out!)

 

Very nice review. Thank you. I completely agree. Interested your thoughts on the TP5x. I prefer the tour preferred x. Too bad taylor made switches too often and the ball you like becomes obsolete and discontinued.