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Wasn't sure if this was addressed, but can iblade players join this thread? :)

 

Not saying you can't join, but the iBlade most definitely is not a blade or MB in the traditional sense...single block of steel construction...no added perimeter weighting and/or cavity in the design...I think the iBlade misses the mark on both those key elements of the blade/MB design.

 

Just curious, why the desire to post here as an iBlade user? Also why not just play blades instead of iBlades? (If you think the iBlades give you a performance edge over real blades, you may be in the wrong thread.)

 

What a jerk. You guys have your own little (okay huge) thread to protect you from being treated similar to the way you just treated trueyoung85.

 

Get over yourself.

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Wasn't sure if this was addressed, but can iblade players join this thread? :)

 

Not saying you can't join, but the iBlade most definitely is not a blade or MB in the traditional sense...single block of steel construction...no added perimeter weighting and/or cavity in the design...I think the iBlade misses the mark on both those key elements of the blade/MB design.

 

Just curious, why the desire to post here as an iBlade user? Also why not just play blades instead of iBlades? (If you think the iBlades give you a performance edge over real blades, you may be in the wrong thread.)

 

What a jerk. You guys have your own little (okay huge) thread to protect you from being treated similar to the way you just treated trueyoung85.

 

Get over yourself.

FYI there is nothing to get over in this thread and there is nothing to be "protected" from.

 

I meant no disrespect to trueyoung85. I was not being a jerk. He asked an open question and I answered it truthfully and sincerely. And I wanted to simply continue the convo that he started. That is all my post was.

 

Have an awesome day! I apologize profusely if you took offense to my post. No disrespect or offense was meant by it.

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Oh, and I got the sense that there might be a release later in the year that might grab the attention of the members that frequent this post.

 

Haha, I love the subtle hint!

 

Were you a fan of TM before this? Are you now? I assume it would be hard not to be star struck seeing all you saw. Will be interesting to see if you end up gaming the new bag after the excitement has worn off (if it does!). No matter what though, an incredible experience for any golf nut and equipment junkie, I'm sure.

 

You know, it is an interesting question. The best answer is that I was a HUGE TaylorMade fan back in the day. There was a stretch where I had a couple of TM staff bags (including a couple of limited edition "majors" bags) full of TM clubs (most of which were either tour issue or TP). At one point, my bag consisted of a TM Augusta Staff Bag, r425TP (tour Issue), r7TP 3 wood (tour issue), Rescue TP 3 hybrid, RAC MB (satin, swirl-face, miura tour issue) or RAC CB (satin, +2mm, miura tour issue), RAC wedges (the yellow flag model), and a Rossa putter of some sort. I was an absolute fan boy.

 

Somewhere in the last few years, though, I dropped off the bandwagon. I am an iron guy, and lost interest in some of their more recent iron models. I also was put off by some of the crown designs on the woods. The interesting thing is that they all still performed really well. I recall renting clubs to play one round and getting stuck with clubs that I never would have chosen. By the end of the round, I was considering a new driver (to match the rental) and looking for companies that would paint the crown for me! I just like traditional-looking gear, and TM was marketing away from that, it seemed. The funny part is that I made a post here on the site a year or two back that was pretty critical of TM's designs and marketing, and pleading for the return of their classic, traditional designs like the 510TP, 300 forged, the RAC line of irons, etc. My bottom line was that they should have a "flagship" line comprised of classic looking products and truly aimed at the better player. Their clubs unquestionably work, so give them an aesthetic that would not be objectionable to any better player, and leave the loud colors, irreverent marketing, etc. for the rest of the line up.

 

I'd say that I started to get interested in TM again with the release of the SLDR. Really classy looking club, IMO, that I hammered when I hit it pure. I've been really interested in the M series woods given all of the tour play they are getting. Also really liked the 2014 iron releases (though, I would have preferred the MC model be all forged and with a little smaller profile). As you guys know, I recently picked up a set of MP4 irons. My "runner up" was a set of the 2014 MBs - I just couldn't find a full set here locally to demo and couldn't find as good a deal on a new set as I got on the MP4s. As traditional as I am, though, I was also really interested in the new, red spider putter line that Jason Day helped design, and I love the look of the new wedge line.

 

After my trip, I am definitely a fan again. It is only natural to have some allegiance after being given such an awesome gift. The driver and putter (when it arrives) are definitely in the bag - they were fit for me by some of the best in the business using some of the best technology available. If they don't work, it is on me!! Ha Ha!

 

I'm with you on your sentiment of TM.

 

They've made terrific stuff in the past that worked well AND looked good.

 

I've had the R7, still have a nice set of RAC TP MB's and an R510. The newer stuff loses me w/ choice of finishes and gee whiz tech.

 

The whole industry has lost me on some level with cheezy graphics and black PVD faces. Polished faces., silver or black crowns will do thank you.

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Wasn't sure if this was addressed, but can iblade players join this thread? :)

 

Of course, climb aboard.

 

Lots of guys have CB's and or cast clubs here, even a few Ping eye 2 fans.

 

I have Titleist 962B's & Top Flite Tours, both cast CBs among the many sets I own with a blade profile.

 

Spirit of the thread is well put by the OP, so I won't bloviate.

 

Generally speaking traditional designs with sexy lines and great feed back is what passes for thrills here.

 

Enjoy :)

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Wasn't sure if this was addressed, but can iblade players join this thread? :)

 

In my humble opinion, OF COURSE you can join this thread! (Hope you still will). I love blades and MBs, but even more than that I love GOLF and discussing equipment (along with just about everything else about the game). Although there may theoretically be some restrictions, my favorite thing about this thread is that it feels like a family, a safe place to talk about pretty much anything about golf. I can't remember who it is, but there is someone on here who plays the Ping Eye 2 more often than any other club. I am going to be giving the ISIs another look this summer.

 

Anyway, post away about what you like or don't like about your clubs or whatever is on your mind. I think you will find the only "rule" in here is being respectful of each other, and I will speak for DeNinny when I say I don't think he meant you any disrespect- he is just VERY passionate about blade technology and took your question to mean "is the iBlade a blade?", not "am I welcome here?" The answer to the former is a fun (IMO) topic of discussion; the answer to the latter is a resounding YES.

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You could be happier, but it would involve having Mizuno MP-4's...like me, Mahonie, No Catchy Nickname, BCULaw...The list goes on I am sure. We are the casually elegant blade users. The Miura crowd is the blatantly extravagant blade users. :cheesy:

 

I guess that I should add that I am a "broke blade user". I do take pride in my +decade old, lead tape covered sticks though and it never gets old having guys ask me what I'm playing after I stripe a 2-iron right past their driver. I do envy the Miura's but don't know that I could ever game them, would be too worried about "messing" them up. :dntknw:

I absolutely revel in the WTH was that moment when the long iron rocket takes off and goes for the distance. I'm thriving as a blade ho by being thrifty and getting a little bit here and there. I could care less about the scoring irons. I like the brawn of the long irons. If there is a 1, 2, or 3...it's definitely for me. I am in a long iron building phase right now with MP-14 1&2i heads to be shafted and a few other bruisers to be toyed with.

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Thx my blade brother bobby!

 

Gawd I'm dying right now. I am at my fitter's shop waiting for him (35 min now) to finish my Porn Star set. I swung 'Katana' the 2i under his sim, but I dare not hit a ball yet...waiting to hit these off turf. She feels lovely. I cannot wait to hit these!!!

 

Extreme blade pr0n forthcoming later tonight...

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TEE CB2 15* 3w, 43" 65g Fujikura Motore F1 S-flex
Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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Ok so bobby is absolutely 100% correct in that I'm VERY passionate about my golf, my clubs, my blades in particular, the science of all things golf and pure enjoyment in my life because of all of it. This post and my latest Porn Star set is a testament to it all. As mentioned before, this set is getting me out of the game. No more iron ho'ing after this!!!

 

So here they are in the shop, just before the lies got bent (1* flat):

 

 

Here's the face of Katana (2i):

 

I am just documenting this from here forward. As I hit Katana over time I am going to keep sharing the face pic and show how much dispersion I have over time. LOL don't expect it to be pretty at first!

 

Here's Katana and her sexy 6 and 9 sisters:

 

I always put some blue and gold in my blade sets to pay homage to my school (Cal). I completely owe my decision to be a passionate and exclusive blades player (for LIFE!!!) to my education. I didn't choose to study chemical engineering to help with my golf, but over the last 3 years or so I have realized that it is an asset in all aspects of it. The more I explore the science of this game to the depth that I can take it, the better I get. It is as simple as that. So that blue and gold staring back at me as I grab an iron for my next shot is just a little psychological edge and confidence booster. Plus I will never mistake a 6i and 9i for the other. I always make sure the 6i is blue and 9i is gold.

 

Here are a couple of family pics:

 

 

And with this the last two Porn Stars are revealed. I also had a 54* (bent to 53*) and a 60* set of black wedges ordered. I still need to epoxy fill the stampings and again I'm going to preserve the original paintfill for now. I really like the stampless sole on them!

 

For all you leather lovers, here's a grip close up shot:

 

 

And here's Katana's topline view:

 

 

Double trouble, squared:

 

 

And last but not least, here are the 6is from all of my blade sets:

 

I love them all (LOL in order from top down).

TEE CB2 13* 3w, 43.5", 57g Fujikura Motore F1 X-flex
TEE CB2 15* 3w, 43" 65g Fujikura Motore F1 S-flex
Miura Black Boron 1957 Small Blades 2i-PW, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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Wasn't sure if this was addressed, but can iblade players join this thread? :)

 

Welcome aboard.

 

The guys in those thread are pretty passionate about their blades, especially older and rare models. As someone new to blades and this thread, they have been extremely helpful. It's nice to have a thread where there isn't a lot of bickering and trying to prove who's better.

 

If the iBlades are what you like, enjoy them. I don't know much about them.

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Geotech's new CB has less offset than most blades. Impressive :)

 

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I'd be more impressed if the new CBs have less cavity than a blade.

 

 

LMAO at all these "forgiving" club manufacturers that make clubs more and more like a blade and then all of a sudden they become more "playable"...they might as well just make a blade...

 

It's easier to sell a golf club to the mass if it's labeled as "GI" or "CB".

 

I've always wanted to see a legit pie chart on types of clubs sold most over the last, say, 5 years.

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Oh, and I got the sense that there might be a release later in the year that might grab the attention of the members that frequent this post.

 

Haha, I love the subtle hint!

 

Were you a fan of TM before this? Are you now? I assume it would be hard not to be star struck seeing all you saw. Will be interesting to see if you end up gaming the new bag after the excitement has worn off (if it does!). No matter what though, an incredible experience for any golf nut and equipment junkie, I'm sure.

 

You know, it is an interesting question. The best answer is that I was a HUGE TaylorMade fan back in the day. There was a stretch where I had a couple of TM staff bags (including a couple of limited edition "majors" bags) full of TM clubs (most of which were either tour issue or TP). At one point, my bag consisted of a TM Augusta Staff Bag, r425TP (tour Issue), r7TP 3 wood (tour issue), Rescue TP 3 hybrid, RAC MB (satin, swirl-face, miura tour issue) or RAC CB (satin, +2mm, miura tour issue), RAC wedges (the yellow flag model), and a Rossa putter of some sort. I was an absolute fan boy.

 

Somewhere in the last few years, though, I dropped off the bandwagon. I am an iron guy, and lost interest in some of their more recent iron models. I also was put off by some of the crown designs on the woods. The interesting thing is that they all still performed really well. I recall renting clubs to play one round and getting stuck with clubs that I never would have chosen. By the end of the round, I was considering a new driver (to match the rental) and looking for companies that would paint the crown for me! I just like traditional-looking gear, and TM was marketing away from that, it seemed. The funny part is that I made a post here on the site a year or two back that was pretty critical of TM's designs and marketing, and pleading for the return of their classic, traditional designs like the 510TP, 300 forged, the RAC line of irons, etc. My bottom line was that they should have a "flagship" line comprised of classic looking products and truly aimed at the better player. Their clubs unquestionably work, so give them an aesthetic that would not be objectionable to any better player, and leave the loud colors, irreverent marketing, etc. for the rest of the line up.

 

I'd say that I started to get interested in TM again with the release of the SLDR. Really classy looking club, IMO, that I hammered when I hit it pure. I've been really interested in the M series woods given all of the tour play they are getting. Also really liked the 2014 iron releases (though, I would have preferred the MC model be all forged and with a little smaller profile). As you guys know, I recently picked up a set of MP4 irons. My "runner up" was a set of the 2014 MBs - I just couldn't find a full set here locally to demo and couldn't find as good a deal on a new set as I got on the MP4s. As traditional as I am, though, I was also really interested in the new, red spider putter line that Jason Day helped design, and I love the look of the new wedge line.

 

After my trip, I am definitely a fan again. It is only natural to have some allegiance after being given such an awesome gift. The driver and putter (when it arrives) are definitely in the bag - they were fit for me by some of the best in the business using some of the best technology available. If they don't work, it is on me!! Ha Ha!

I'm with you on TM. They receive a lot of hate for all sorts of things but some of the stuff they have put out over the years is outstanding. Not just the odd iron or driver model but plenty of them. I am probably biased but most of the stuff I'm referring to is supposed "better player" equipment.

Some of my faves are of course the tm300 irons. Absolute modern classic. 2003/2004 rac cb's. In fact the whole range of racs were special. I still game rac wedges. The Lt's, the rac blades in 3 models etc. Of course the V-steels. Also already mentioned 510 tp or the 580 xd or the r7 quad. The list does go on if you care to think about it.

I have quite a lot of TM equipment in my collection and love playing it!

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Geotech's new CB has less offset than most blades. Impressive :)

 

...

 

I'd be more impressed if the new CBs have less cavity than a blade.

 

 

LMAO at all these "forgiving" club manufacturers that make clubs more and more like a blade and then all of a sudden they become more "playable"...they might as well just make a blade...

 

It's easier to sell a golf club to the mass if it's labeled as "GI" or "CB".

 

I've always wanted to see a legit pie chart on types of clubs sold most over the last, say, 5 years.

 

Evidently the ease is helped by a marketing campaign that incessantly breeds irrational fear of one's own mishits such that there is no possible way a blade can be hit by anybody but a, LMAO, 'elite' ballstriker. And the ignorant masses fall for it, hook, line, and sinker.

 

The pie chart that I would love to see is not % of sales but rather longevity of iron type owned and gamed. What types of irons are gamed the longest? I'm guessing PING Eye 2's would have a good chunk of that pie, but then so would many classic blades. From my anecdotal observation, it seems like old classic CB sets are more rare than old classic blades. Meaning, when you see a golfer with a really old iron set, chances are it is a blade set over a CB one.

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Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex
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Ok so bobby is absolutely 100% correct in that I'm VERY passionate about my golf, my clubs, my blades in particular, the science of all things golf and pure enjoyment in my life because of all of it. This post and my latest Porn Star set is a testament to it all. As mentioned before, this set is getting me out of the game. No more iron ho'ing after this!!!

 

 

And here's Katana's topline view:

 

There's a dangerous imperfection in this club that has a number 2 on it. If you look closely at the face you can see it. I am afraid that you will hurt yourself swinging this club. Please send it to someone qualified to test it before you use it. My address is enclosed in a PM. :cheesy:

If they can build a 2 iron...they can build a 1 iron. Why have the evil geniuses not done this yet? Make it so already.

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If they can build a 2 iron...they can build a 1 iron. Why have the evil geniuses not done this yet? Make it so already.

 

It already IS a 1 iron. Generational loft creep has them putting "2" on the sole, but it's the same club.

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Driver: TM 300 Mini 11.5*, 43.5", Phenom NL 60X -or- Cobra SpeedZone, ProtoPype 80S, 43.5"

Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, RIP Beta 90X -or- TM Sim2 Ti 3w, NV105 X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S 

Irons grab bag:  1-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 1-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R; 2-PW Golden Ram Vibration Matched, NS Pro 950WF S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, SteelFiber i125 S -or- Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Cobra Snakebite 56* -or- Wilson Staff PMP 58*, Dynamic S -or- Ram TW282 SW -or- Ram TW276 SW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34" -or- Maxfli TM-2, 35"
Balls: Chrome Soft, Kirkland Signature 3pc (v3)

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The pie chart that I would love to see is not % of sales but rather longevity of iron type owned and gamed. What types of irons are gamed the longest? I'm guessing PING Eye 2's would have a good chunk of that pie, but then so would many classic blades. From my anecdotal observation, it seems like old classic CB sets are more rare than old classic blades. Meaning, when you see a golfer with a really old iron set, chances are it is a blade set over a CB one.

 

Hmmm, that's interesting. Isn't there a stat like that for cars: i.e. what are the oldest models still on the road?

 

I bet it just might be blades too. People probably cycle through CBs and SGIs more than blades. And maybe not necessarily because blades are superior, but because blades don't promise you any new gimmicks from year to year. Just steel, muscle, meat, ball, hit. No need to mess with that recipe from one set to another. I can't see any reason to ever switch from my Cobras. Just need to lock in the specs...

Driver - TM Mini BRNR 11.5, HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.5

2i- Ping Blueprint

3i-PW - TM P7MB, KBS Tour X

Wedges - Vokey SM9 (52, 56, 60) all M grinds

Putter - PLD Anser

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The pie chart that I would love to see is not % of sales but rather longevity of iron type owned and gamed. What types of irons are gamed the longest? I'm guessing PING Eye 2's would have a good chunk of that pie, but then so would many classic blades. From my anecdotal observation, it seems like old classic CB sets are more rare than old classic blades. Meaning, when you see a golfer with a really old iron set, chances are it is a blade set over a CB one.

 

Hmmm, that's interesting. Isn't there a stat like that for cars: i.e. what are the oldest models still on the road?

 

I bet it just might be blades too. People probably cycle through CBs and SGIs more than blades. And maybe not necessarily because blades are superior, but because blades don't promise you any new gimmicks from year to year. Just steel, muscle, meat, ball, hit. No need to mess with that recipe from one set to another. I can't see any reason to ever switch from my Cobras. Just need to lock in the specs...

 

There's a lot to be said about just becoming attuned to one set (or the multiple ones currently owned) and molding your swing around it to get the best performance out of it rather than changing to something based on latest "forgiving" technology. When you stick with the same set(s) and watch your game closely, you know for sure that it is YOU the golfer getting better and/or worse and it has NOTHING to do with the clubs. When you constantly switch and change up your clubs there is no way you can scientifically conclude that it was the clubs or your own game and swing that is changing.

 

And LMAO the science and my personal experience says blades are superior in every way. Those year to year gimmicks (i.e. design "features" based on HALF-TRUTH carney "science") simply don't hold any true technical merit. It is as simple as that. They may not be inferior to blade design features, but they certainly don't help me. LOL not trying to debate you on this, just sharing my personal opinion.

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This isn't really blade related, but I have to share....

 

I just made an impulse buy. I have an R11s that I've never been all THAT fond of, other than the two moveable weights allowing me to make it shorter much easier than I otherwise would be able. Big believer in 44" and under drivers.

 

And now everyone will probably think I'm copying Jimmy Walker and Rickie Fowler, LOL. (blade players, btw)

 

Anyway, sitting here waiting for start of golf season, which is always dangerous for me, I think, "hey, the R9 SuperDeep is supposed to be stupid low spin. I already have several shafts with FCT tips, already have a bunch of the weights... maybe I should score one for fun?" Then I remind myself that I just bought a Cobra King LTD, which I could also try at a shorter length by opening the spaceport and cotton balling it to oblivion.

 

Yeah, the impulse purchase won this time. Just bought an R9 SuperDeep. And, better yet, it has a Motore F1 85 shaft, which is more or less in my weight class, and is already only about 44" long. Meaning, it may already be weighted up a bit.

 

I just couldn't help myself. I am a club ho.

 

How cool is that?

 

Now, a blade related comment... graphite has been calling me a bit of late. I'm not 45 anymore (lol) and the elbows and wrists complain a little bit more each year. Started thinking I should maybe just suck it up and try graphite again. Hireko has the NV 105 iron shaft, so I picked up one for an 8 iron, going to try it in my Purefit 1020 blade that I've been using as a shaft demo stick.

 

Have to get it assembled for possible range time tomorrow. I don't want to go in to Sunday's first round of the year totally cold. ;)

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Driver: TM 300 Mini 11.5*, 43.5", Phenom NL 60X -or- Cobra SpeedZone, ProtoPype 80S, 43.5"

Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, RIP Beta 90X -or- TM Sim2 Ti 3w, NV105 X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S 

Irons grab bag:  1-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 1-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R; 2-PW Golden Ram Vibration Matched, NS Pro 950WF S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, SteelFiber i125 S -or- Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Cobra Snakebite 56* -or- Wilson Staff PMP 58*, Dynamic S -or- Ram TW282 SW -or- Ram TW276 SW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34" -or- Maxfli TM-2, 35"
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And now everyone will probably think I'm copying Jimmy Walker and Rickie Fowler, LOL. (blade players, btw)

 

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Now, a blade related comment... graphite has been calling me a bit of late. I'm not 45 anymore (lol) and the elbows and wrists complain a little bit more each year. Started thinking I should maybe just suck it up and try graphite again. Hireko has the NV 105 iron shaft, so I picked up one for an 8 iron, going to try it in my Purefit 1020 blade that I've been using as a shaft demo stick.

 

Have to get it assembled for possible range time tomorrow. I don't want to go in to Sunday's first round of the year totally cold. ;)

 

Copying blade players on tour is a good thing (IMHO) from a science perspective. Whether or not that was your intention is irrelevant.

 

Just some food for though on graphite and elbow and wrist pain...Graphite will for sure soften the immediate pain of miss hitting the ball as compared to steel, no question on that. The real issue to consider is whether or not that immediate miss hit pain is what causes your chronic elbow and wrist pain. That root cause *may* be simply from repetitive ball striking from the force of impact itself, and if this is the case then graphite won't help that much. In fact, if you get a higher SS with graphite, then theoretically you will feel a higher force from impact compared to steel. Just something to consider before you think graphite is the panacea for chronic wrist and elbow pain...

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Congratulations DeNinny.

 

I love the giddy feeling when a new set is drying in the rack.

 

Eventually that feeling subsides and I begin to look for a 'fix'.

 

I'm looking seriously at drivers right now as I've seen real performance gains for the first time in a long time. We'll see where I end up.

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Just some food for though on graphite and elbow and wrist pain...Graphite will for sure soften the immediate pain of miss hitting the ball as compared to steel, no question on that. The real issue to consider is whether or not that immediate miss hit pain is what causes your chronic elbow and wrist pain. That root cause *may* be simply from repetitive ball striking from the force of impact itself, and if this is the case then graphite won't help that much. In fact, if you get a higher SS with graphite, then theoretically you will feel a higher force from impact compared to steel. Just something to consider before you think graphite is the panacea for chronic wrist and elbow pain...

 

I'm unworried about quality of contact and the effects there. In fact, it didn't cross my mind. It's overall vibration dampening that has me beginning to look at graphite. Anything to take the edge off, as it were. ;)

 

That, and the cost factor; with DG shafts being $20-22 per shaft, Nippons being $37, and so on, the NV105 at $30/shaft is quite the reasonable alternative.

 

I've done a bit of research, which suggests the NV105 may be a decent option for my particular trajectory and spin characteristics. In the world of graphite irons shafts, that is. SteelFibers were another option, I chose to start with the NV for now.

 

This is really just exploratory at this point.

 

As for swingspeed effects, I won't be doing anything that would significantly affect swingspeed for me. I'm a bit different from most in that going lighter has more risk of decreasing my swingspeed, as heavier shafts tend to work far better for me. :)

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Just some food for though on graphite and elbow and wrist pain...Graphite will for sure soften the immediate pain of miss hitting the ball as compared to steel, no question on that. The real issue to consider is whether or not that immediate miss hit pain is what causes your chronic elbow and wrist pain. That root cause *may* be simply from repetitive ball striking from the force of impact itself, and if this is the case then graphite won't help that much. In fact, if you get a higher SS with graphite, then theoretically you will feel a higher force from impact compared to steel. Just something to consider before you think graphite is the panacea for chronic wrist and elbow pain...

 

I'm unworried about quality of contact and the effects there. In fact, it didn't cross my mind. It's overall vibration dampening that has me beginning to look at graphite. Anything to take the edge off, as it were. ;)

 

That, and the cost factor; with DG shafts being $20-22 per shaft, Nippons being $37, and so on, the NV105 at $30/shaft is quite the reasonable alternative.

 

I've done a bit of research, which suggests the NV105 may be a decent option for my particular trajectory and spin characteristics. In the world of graphite irons shafts, that is. SteelFibers were another option, I chose to start with the NV for now.

 

This is really just exploratory at this point.

 

As for swingspeed effects, I won't be doing anything that would significantly affect swingspeed for me. I'm a bit different from most in that going lighter has more risk of decreasing my swingspeed, as heavier shafts tend to work far better for me. :)

 

Any recommendations to combat pain in the second knuckle of the middle two fingers on the left hand (righty player)? Started about 6 months ago after rounds and now starting to feel it after about 12 holes. Manifests itself as a 'bruised' feeling and then totally disappears after a couple of days which is not too bad as I'm only playing once a week at the moment. I'm thinking about switching from an interlocking grip to overlapping to take some pressure off. Have a four day golf trip in three weeks playing 72 holes of proper links golf (which I am really looking forward to) and worried that the pain will detract from the enjoyment.

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I smashed my right hand pretty bad about 6 years ago. It had a significant impact on my game. No broken bones, and no fractures, but my tendon's had bruising. I never got it checked out because there was no specialist in my town in Wyoming and work was too busy to stop. Fast forward 4 years later, moved to California, during a physical I asked the Dr about it, he sent me to a specialist and it turns out I had "frayed" ligaments that didn't heal right. Same exact feeling as you're talking about. A sore bruising. Prescription of physical therapy, hand brace for 8 weeks, and OTC glucosamine. I don't have issues any longer.

 

If anything, glucosamine helped out. I take it daily at the age of 28.

 

NRJ, let us know how those NV105's workout. They come in taper?

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I smashed my right hand pretty bad about 6 years ago. It had a significant impact on my game. No broken bones, and no fractures, but my tendon's had bruising. I never got it checked out because there was no specialist in my town in Wyoming and work was too busy to stop. Fast forward 4 years later, moved to California, during a physical I asked the Dr about it, he sent me to a specialist and it turns out I had "frayed" ligaments that didn't heal right. Same exact feeling as you're talking about. A sore bruising. Prescription of physical therapy, hand brace for 8 weeks, and OTC glucosamine. I don't have issues any longer.

 

If anything, glucosamine helped out. I take it daily at the age of 28.

 

NRJ, let us know how those NV105's workout. They come in taper?

 

Thanks, King. I will check out the glucosamine...I've read that it also helps with osteoarthritis which is something else that has crossed my mind :-(. Glad your hand is sorted out :-)

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Just some food for though on graphite and elbow and wrist pain...Graphite will for sure soften the immediate pain of miss hitting the ball as compared to steel, no question on that. The real issue to consider is whether or not that immediate miss hit pain is what causes your chronic elbow and wrist pain. That root cause *may* be simply from repetitive ball striking from the force of impact itself, and if this is the case then graphite won't help that much. In fact, if you get a higher SS with graphite, then theoretically you will feel a higher force from impact compared to steel. Just something to consider before you think graphite is the panacea for chronic wrist and elbow pain...

 

I'm unworried about quality of contact and the effects there. In fact, it didn't cross my mind. It's overall vibration dampening that has me beginning to look at graphite. Anything to take the edge off, as it were. ;)

 

That, and the cost factor; with DG shafts being $20-22 per shaft, Nippons being $37, and so on, the NV105 at $30/shaft is quite the reasonable alternative.

 

I've done a bit of research, which suggests the NV105 may be a decent option for my particular trajectory and spin characteristics. In the world of graphite irons shafts, that is. SteelFibers were another option, I chose to start with the NV for now.

 

This is really just exploratory at this point.

 

As for swingspeed effects, I won't be doing anything that would significantly affect swingspeed for me. I'm a bit different from most in that going lighter has more risk of decreasing my swingspeed, as heavier shafts tend to work far better for me. :)

 

Any recommendations to combat pain in the second knuckle of the middle two fingers on the left hand (righty player)? Started about 6 months ago after rounds and now starting to feel it after about 12 holes. Manifests itself as a 'bruised' feeling and then totally disappears after a couple of days which is not too bad as I'm only playing once a week at the moment. I'm thinking about switching from an interlocking grip to overlapping to take some pressure off. Have a four day golf trip in three weeks playing 72 holes of proper links golf (which I am really looking forward to) and worried that the pain will detract from the enjoyment.

 

Lot of ice, several times a day for 20 minutes per. My doc always stresses ice on injuries,reduces fluid build up which can often be source of pain never recommends heat.

 

Going to overlap may actually help, if hands are not completely working together on a pass then it will not put as much stress on that finger.

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Have just managed to get my other half to sanction me buying a new set of blades, only issue is I have up to around £350 to spend so will be going second hand, so opportunities to try stuff will be limited.

 

I've been looking on golfbidder in the UK, and it looks as if I can get either a practically new set of Nike Vapor Pros, or a slightly more worn set of MP4's

 

I'll be coming from a set of the Original Nike Blades, which I am more than happy with, except for the weaker lofts - anyone hit all 3 irons and can suggest what would be closest to the blades I have?

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a slightly more worn set of MP4's

 

I'll be coming from a set of the Original Nike Blades, which I am more than happy with, except for the weaker lofts - anyone hit all 3 irons and can suggest what would be closest to the blades I have?

How can a set that has a 1&2 iron as part of the set be a bested?

What are the lofts of the 1&2 iron?

What are you planning to do with them?

I'd go with the MP-4's...but I am biased.

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What is a good price on a set of MP4's right now new? I'm thinking about upgrading the mp32's...

 

I picked up a new set (3-p with KBs Tours) on the bay from a very reputable seller for $630. I think the seller is Tee2green or something along those lines. Just do a search for "new Mizuno MP4" and you should find them. Other shaft options available at that price, as well.

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