Justin Rose's Itsy Bitsy Ghost Spider putter shot at 2015 BMW Championship

[GolfWRX]

[nova6868]

Interesting that he would stop the line just past the face. Maybe he feels a full line going back would be distracting. I guess I could see that.

But anyway... TM... Come on, surely you have something like this going retail soon.

[DTown3011]

Is this in the bag now? So he went from the milled to the Spider back to the milled and now back to a Itsy Bitsy?

[Beastmode Broker]

isn't this just like JDay's?

[bosoxfan]

Similar, JDs doesn't have a sight line at all. I think I like this one better
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[newportbeach]

[quote name='nova6868' timestamp='1442340031' post='12317466']
Interesting that he would stop the line just past the face. Maybe he feels a full line going back would be distracting. I guess I could see that.

But anyway... TM... Come on, surely you have something like this going retail soon.
[/quote]

Reminds me of Spieth's top line. Basically a top line here too.

[olauwie]

Thats a sweet looking head, like the top line.

[LoveSick666]

Need these with different neck options for retail. As well as with milled carbon faces, not that crap aluminum milled on their new line of putters or the old plastic inserts like this one.

[Ed Settle]

[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1442341503' post='12317590']
Is this in the bag now? So he went from the milled to the Spider back to the milled and now back to a Itsy Bitsy?
[/quote]

I am beginning to think JR is putter ho...

[Ed Settle]

[quote name='LoveSick666' timestamp='1442344006' post='12317772']
Need these with different neck options for retail. As well as with milled carbon faces, not that crap aluminum milled on their new line of putters or the old plastic inserts like this one.
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I think this proto has a different black insert than retail. Maybe a black steel insert. The grooves are etched not formed like the plastic (surlyn) retail.

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[jll62]

[quote name='Ed Settle' timestamp='1442347001' post='12318006']
[quote name='LoveSick666' timestamp='1442344006' post='12317772']
Need these with different neck options for retail. As well as with milled carbon faces, not that crap aluminum milled on their new line of putters or the old plastic inserts like this one.
[/quote]

I think this proto has a different black insert than retail. Maybe a black steel insert. The grooves are etched not formed like the plastic (surlyn) retail.

[/quote]

It's different than retail for sure, but it looks like one of the older Pure Roll Surlyn inserts to me. If it is, then it would be an interesting difference between this and Day's proto. The ball comes off the 80/20 insert on the Day proto a little hotter than the standard Spider S with the Surlyn insert. If Rose has the Surlyn insert, it's to soften the feel and deaden the impact off the putter a little.

[jll62]

[quote name='nova6868' timestamp='1442340031' post='12317466']
Interesting that he would stop the line just past the face. Maybe he feels a full line going back would be distracting. I guess I could see that.

But anyway... TM... Come on, surely you have something like this going retail soon.
[/quote]

The full line on the Spider S head can be distracting, but the clean look of the Jason Day proto takes some getting used to, as well. This is an interesting compromise and one that makes sense given that JR has a top line on one of his milled TM protos.

I love seeing that more guys are using these. I really hope they release something close to the JDay proto head. It is so much better than the retail spiders.

[micha]

Do these slant neck Spiders that Day and Rose use have any toe hang?

[moonshine]

I was lucky enough to meet JR through this site several years back. Great guy and been pulling for him ever since. Got to play the course he grew up on and honestly think he switches putters too much. He misses shorties and makes bombs, and it seems like every other tourney he is tinkering with something new. I have seen him putt more consistently with blade style putters...just sayin'....Akron was awful...and I have played there....I would know...just sayin'...LOL

[ProjectX_Mizuno]

That's perfect! Exactly how I would get one built.

[Ed Settle]

[quote name='micha' timestamp='1442351743' post='12318402']
Do these slant neck Spiders that Day and Rose use have any toe hang?
[/quote]

I will let jll62 answer for sure, but with that flow neck these have to have toe hang.

[MCCA]

[quote name='moonshine' timestamp='1442352378' post='12318452']
I was lucky enough to meet JR through this site several years back. Great guy and been pulling for him ever since. Got to play the course he grew up on and honestly think he switches putters too much. He misses shorties and makes bombs, and it seems like every other tourney he is tinkering with something new. I have seen him putt more consistently with blade style putters...just sayin'....Akron was awful...and I have played there....I would know...just sayin'...LOL
[/quote]

[quote name='moonshine' timestamp='1442352378' post='12318452']
I was lucky enough to meet JR through this site several years back. Great guy and been pulling for him ever since. Got to play the course he grew up on and [u][i][b]honestly think he switches putters too much[/b][/i][/u]. He misses shorties and makes bombs, and it seems [b][i]like every other tourney he is tinkering with something new. [/i][/b] I have seen him putt more consistently with blade style putters...just sayin'....Akron was awful...and I have played there....I would know...just sayin'...LOL
[/quote]

I agree 100%

[jll62]

[quote name='micha' timestamp='1442351743' post='12318402']
Do these slant neck Spiders that Day and Rose use have any toe hang?
[/quote]

Yes, about 30 degrees

[bobbydazzlewazzler]

Anyone else agree that this is simply the worst name for a putter in all the naming of putters of all time?

[nova6868]

[quote name='jll62' timestamp='1442355523' post='12318728']
[quote name='micha' timestamp='1442351743' post='12318402']
Do these slant neck Spiders that Day and Rose use have any toe hang?
[/quote]

Yes, about 30 degrees
[/quote]

That seems like quite a bit for a mallet. As I recall, the higher the MOI the higher the effect of toe hang.

[jll62]

[quote name='nova6868' timestamp='1442355866' post='12318748']
[quote name='jll62' timestamp='1442355523' post='12318728']
[quote name='micha' timestamp='1442351743' post='12318402']
Do these slant neck Spiders that Day and Rose use have any toe hang?
[/quote]

Yes, about 30 degrees
[/quote]

That seems like quite a bit for a mallet. As I recall, the higher the MOI the higher the effect of toe hang.
[/quote]

If you don't want it, you pick the single bend, face balanced version of a mallet, which always seem to be more popular with the masses. Those of us who like to putt with a mallet and also like the way the toe hang helps the putter swing open and closed will putt with these. I don't see how MOI really enters into the discussion. When I'm picking a putter, all I want to know is whether or not I can consistently start the ball on the line I want with the speed I want. I'm certainly not thinking about relationship between MOI and toe hang on a mallet style head.

Here's the toe hang of the Jason Day IB prototypes. It's the same as on the retail Spider S slant.

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[LongggIslandLefty91]

Guy changes putters like I change my socks its crazy, he isnt that great of a putter in my opinion and I feel like he is pretty mental with his putters jmo

[KPH808]

^ He'll switch after the BMW probably.

[MMB1500]

[quote name='moonshine' timestamp='1442352378' post='12318452']
I was lucky enough to meet JR through this site several years back. Great guy and been pulling for him ever since. [b]Got to play the course he grew up on[/b] and honestly think he switches putters too much.[/quote]

[url="http://www.northhantsgolf.co.uk/course/"]North Hants?[/url] Great track from in my home county.

[quote name='LongggIslandLefty91' timestamp='1442358684' post='12318950']
Guy changes putters like I change my socks its crazy, he isnt that great of a putter in my opinion and I feel like he is pretty mental with his putters jmo
[/quote]

His tee to green stats are certainly more impressive than his putting figures.

http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.22405.justin-rose.html/statistics

[ZBigStick]

NIce!

Basically TM pros can take an IBSpider, pick their hosel, pick their top line, pick their face. Sounds like an opportunity for their "Vault".

JR needs to hang out with Poults at Lake Nona and take some putting tips. IJP changes putters too, but he sticks with Newport style or #7. Same with Luke Donald. Justin should take note and seek assistance from his fellow Brits.

[ZBigStick]

What lob wedge is that or a practice club?

Huge, wide sole.

[Anser]

[quote name='ZBigStick' timestamp='1442380511' post='12320650']
NIce!

Basically TM pros can take an IBSpider, pick their hosel, pick their top line, pick their face. Sounds like an opportunity for their "Vault".

JR needs to hang out with Poults at Lake Nona and take some putting tips. IJP changes putters too, but he sticks with Newport style or #7. Same with Luke Donald. Justin should take note and seek assistance from his fellow Brits.
[/quote]

Why would he take advice from either of those guys?

Rose can actually win golf tournaments

[cdodom91]

[quote name='Ed Settle' timestamp='1442346856' post='12317996']
[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1442341503' post='12317590']
Is this in the bag now? So he went from the milled to the Spider back to the milled and now back to a Itsy Bitsy?
[/quote]

I am beginning to think JR is putter ho...
[/quote]

more like he cant putt all that well and trying to find the answer! haha

[WVP]

Hopefully TM takes the hint with 2 of their premier guys using these heads. I always thought this was their best mallet design and they've should just keep it in their offering each year with different variations.

[ZBigStick]

[quote name='Anser' timestamp='1442407728' post='12321312']
[quote name='ZBigStick' timestamp='1442380511' post='12320650']
NIce!

Basically TM pros can take an IBSpider, pick their hosel, pick their top line, pick their face. Sounds like an opportunity for their "Vault".

JR needs to hang out with Poults at Lake Nona and take some putting tips. IJP changes putters too, but he sticks with Newport style or #7. Same with Luke Donald. Justin should take note and seek assistance from his fellow Brits.
[/quote]

Why would he take advice from either of those guys?

Rose can actually win golf tournaments
[/quote]

Touché!

But they can putt circles around him.