SuperSpeed Golf training system

[Wardonation]

What system actually gives you "perm" results? I have used this system when it cam out for a year and half solid. I am a year removed and back to my original clubhead speed. 

[radiman]

2 minutes ago, Wardonation said:

What system actually gives you "perm" results? I have used this system when it cam out for a year and half solid. I am a year removed and back to my original clubhead speed. 

I don't know that there is a permanent solution to this.  Even the long drive guys regularly do speed training.  I think once you peak with the speed training, you would move into some sort of maintenance mode unless you were looking to continue to squeeze even more speed out of it. 

[Indygolf21]

For those of you who can swing driver 120-122 going all out, and 117 comfortably, what are you swinging the sticks?

 

I’m only 2 sessions in, and my max with green is 133, max with blue is 125, max with red is 120. Measured by PRGR. 
 

But I have gotten up to 122 with a driver on trackman, and 117 is fairly comfortable. My understanding is the gap between the stick speeds and my driver should be a lot bigger. Not sure how to interpret. 

[jestein1679]

On 11/15/2022 at 8:26 PM, Indygolf21 said:

For those of you who can swing driver 120-122 going all out, and 117 comfortably, what are you swinging the sticks?

 

I’m only 2 sessions in, and my max with green is 133, max with blue is 125, max with red is 120. Measured by PRGR. 
 

But I have gotten up to 122 with a driver on trackman, and 117 is fairly comfortable. My understanding is the gap between the stick speeds and my driver should be a lot bigger. Not sure how to interpret. 

 I can come within 2mph of my max most every day I swing the sticks.  My current max is:

138 green

130 blue

123 red

 

My sticks swing is much longer and slightly different than my driver swing.  I like to load the right elbow high into what feels like a baseball position with the sticks which helps me max out.  I focus on coordination as well if that makes sense.  I have a prgr.   I have a max of 177 ball speed but usually live in the low 170s.  
 

if you’ve gotten up to 122 my guess is that you have much more in you then what you are currently swinging the sticks and just need to adapt to sticks or really focus on max effort.  Try some big baseball-like step changes as well.

Edited December 1, 2022 by jestein1679

[clevited]

On 11/15/2022 at 10:26 PM, Indygolf21 said:

For those of you who can swing driver 120-122 going all out, and 117 comfortably, what are you swinging the sticks?

 

I’m only 2 sessions in, and my max with green is 133, max with blue is 125, max with red is 120. Measured by PRGR. 
 

But I have gotten up to 122 with a driver on trackman, and 117 is fairly comfortable. My understanding is the gap between the stick speeds and my driver should be a lot bigger. Not sure how to interpret. 

 

Back when SS sticks first came out, I tried to find a correlation between what you can swing the sticks at (using specifically the blue swing speed radar) and what you can swing a standard length and weight driver at as measured by Trackman.  I found the red stick to be closely correlated to a standard driver.  It isn't a perfect one but it seemed to be consistently close with outliers here and there.  Basically, if you have the swing speed radar and you can swing the red stick at maximum of 120 lets say, then you should be able to swing around that on Trackman (maybe within +- 3mph).  If you aren't able to do that then I think you have either a mental block when actually having to hit a ball, or your swing isn't good enough to hit the ball at those speeds and thus your mind automatically slows you down.  Either way, it can give you insight into your potential speed and give you incentive to either work on your mechanics, or work on your swing hesitancy.   

 

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that if you get big outlier numbers on the radar, those are most likely misreads and should be ignored.  Like if you swing 120, 121, 122, 119, and then 134, that 134 is likely a misread.  You can't actually swing 134 with anything.  You can be pretty sure you swing around 120 max and should be similar with an actual driver when measured on a Trackman.

 

PRGR I have no idea, but from what I have heard, it is more consistent than the SSRs were.  The simple and small geometry of these speed stick tips should be pretty accurately read by any of these radars for the most part.  No toe closing through impact, no large club head to trick the radar into giving you speed of the toe instead of speed of the middle (which can be quite a large difference). 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by clevited

[jestein1679]

49 minutes ago, clevited said:

 

Back when SS sticks first came out, I tried to find a correlation between what you can swing the sticks at (using specifically the blue swing speed radar) and what you can swing a standard length and weight driver at as measured by Trackman.  I found the red stick to be closely correlated to a standard driver.  It isn't a perfect one but it seemed to be consistently close with outliers here and there.  Basically, if you have the swing speed radar and you can swing the red stick at maximum of 120 lets say, then you should be able to swing around that on Trackman (maybe within +- 3mph).  If you aren't able to do that then I think you have either a mental block when actually having to hit a ball, or your swing isn't good enough to hit the ball at those speeds and thus your mind automatically slows you down.  Either way, it can give you insight into your potential speed and give you incentive to either work on your mechanics, or work on your swing hesitancy.   

 

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that if you get big outlier numbers on the radar, those are most likely misreads and should be ignored.  Like if you swing 120, 121, 122, 119, and then 134, that 134 is likely a misread.  You can't actually swing 134 with anything.  You can be pretty sure you swing around 120 max and should be similar with an actual driver when measured on a Trackman.

 

PRGR I have no idea, but from what I have heard, it is more consistent than the SSRs were.  The simple and small geometry of these speed stick tips should be pretty accurately read by any of these radars for the most part.  No toe closing through impact, no large club head to trick the radar into giving you speed of the toe instead of speed of the middle (which can be quite a large difference). 

 

You are exactly correct.  I have done ss fairly consistently over the last year or two.  The red has been correlated to my all out driver swing speed minus a 2-3 mph the whole time.  
 

I read a fair amount on gaining speed in golf and other sports.   I’m not convinced the ss protocols are as helpful as they could be especially for advanced levels.  And stuff like kneeling swings is worthless imo.  
 

For instance when working on velocity, pitchers use run ups and other mechanisms outside their regular pitching motion to neuro train and physically train to get faster.  Regular swings should obviously be used but I believe big step swings and other mechanisms (high and long) with the sticks should be used in the same manner. 
 

Use whatever mechanism is possible to train your body and mind to swing the sticks faster.  
 

Learning how to swing sticks fast will help your overall sequencing and body coordination in your regular swing.  Thus learning to swing fast helps your overall swing it doesn’t hurt it in my experience.  

 

And unless your 20 years old you better be fit enough to handle the sticks or hit the gym otherwise you’re just going to injure yourself.  

[Wardonation]

I did this system right when it cam out for two and half years. I had great speed gains went from 103 to 112. I quit doing the system on winter as I was injured from it, I LOST all my gains in a 4month period. I am going to start again but just with the blue stick (par4success) suggestion and do it 2x a week. The real bummer is the gains do not last forever period. You can also develop some bad swing habits... But I do miss the distance so, I will now do it on my off gym day and once before a leg workout.

[airjammer]

7 minutes ago, Wardonation said:

I did this system right when it cam out for two and half years. I had great speed gains went from 103 to 112. I quit doing the system on winter as I was injured from it, I LOST all my gains in a 4month period. I am going to start again but just with the blue stick (par4success) suggestion and do it 2x a week. The real bummer is the gains do not last forever period. You can also develop some bad swing habits... But I do miss the distance so, I will now do it on my off gym day and once before a leg workout.

 Wow that sucks that you did it for that long and now it’s vanished. I’ve read somewhere that you have to do it for at least 6 months before the changes stay more permanent but obviously that didn’t seem to be the case for you. 

[FormerBigDaddy]

Hey guys.. just purchased the superspeed sticks along with the prgr launch monitor to track progress.  Looking for some feedback given my individual circumstances.

 

1.  I play very regularly and even through the winter.  Played about 45 rounds last year and probably more than that this year.  With that said I really don't go to the range that much... i have limited time and i "just play."

 

2.  I am 40 years old and obviously not a newbie.  I finished the year at an 8.2 handicap.  With that said I have never done any kind of speed training.

 

3.  I do exercise regularly so any benefit that could be added by starting a fitness program is off the table b/c I already do a lot of golf related lifts and full body movements in the weight room.  Gains in speed will have to come strictly from adding the speed training.

 

4.  I am quite the dedicated type and if i say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.  So I will be following the program from probably the end of december to at least April/May.  So barring any injuries or setbacks, I'm planning to do every level of the program.  3 days a week, tracking progress, and no missed days.

 

5.  My current max swing speed is about 107.  I would be thrilled if I could add 5 mph of swing speed by next season.  Gaining 1 club in distance would be awesome.

 

 

Given that information... what can I realistically expect?  Any tips/tricks that I wouldn't learn by reading the superspeed instructions/videos?

 

Thanks!

[anw79]

On 12/1/2022 at 10:55 AM, airjammer said:

 Wow that sucks that you did it for that long and now it’s vanished. I’ve read somewhere that you have to do it for at least 6 months before the changes stay more permanent but obviously that didn’t seem to be the case for you. 

 

I don't think the gains are ever permanent if you completely drop all training.  Somewhat like fitness, you will slowly regress to baseline.  I had similar experience to Wardonation.  Last off season I worked my way up from 110 to 120.  Pretty much stopped doing it during season and also stopped weight training, just did a few sessions of trying to swing my driver as fast as possible here and there.  Was able to maintain alright floating 115-120.  Now completely back to baseline, all gains have been wiped out.  Hoping to take a more sustainable approach this time around.

 

I also echo the comments about swing technique.  I believe the SS people and others say basically throw technique out the window and do whatever you need to do to move the sticks as fast as possible.  I don't think I'm on board with that concept, I will be keeping some awareness on technique this time around as well.  

[FormerBigDaddy]

23 hours ago, FormerBigDaddy said:

Hey guys.. just purchased the superspeed sticks along with the prgr launch monitor to track progress.  Looking for some feedback given my individual circumstances.

 

1.  I play very regularly and even through the winter.  Played about 45 rounds last year and probably more than that this year.  With that said I really don't go to the range that much... i have limited time and i "just play."

 

2.  I am 40 years old and obviously not a newbie.  I finished the year at an 8.2 handicap.  With that said I have never done any kind of speed training.

 

3.  I do exercise regularly so any benefit that could be added by starting a fitness program is off the table b/c I already do a lot of golf related lifts and full body movements in the weight room.  Gains in speed will have to come strictly from adding the speed training.

 

4.  I am quite the dedicated type and if i say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.  So I will be following the program from probably the end of december to at least April/May.  So barring any injuries or setbacks, I'm planning to do every level of the program.  3 days a week, tracking progress, and no missed days.

 

5.  My current max swing speed is about 107.  I would be thrilled if I could add 5 mph of swing speed by next season.  Gaining 1 club in distance would be awesome.

 

 

Given that information... what can I realistically expect?  Any tips/tricks that I wouldn't learn by reading the superspeed instructions/videos?

 

Thanks!

Anyone mind chiming in... my setup should be delivered this week.  Making sure this is going to be worth my time!

[anw79]

On 12/6/2022 at 10:36 AM, FormerBigDaddy said:

Anyone mind chiming in... my setup should be delivered this week.  Making sure this is going to be worth my time!

 

Nobody can say for sure but I would be surprised if you didn't gain at least 5 mph given what you mentioned.  One thing to be mindful of is how you mix the weight sessions and superspeed.  There is some information out there about how to choose what you want to prioritize and how to stagger.  Fit for golf/Mike Carroll has a lot of great info on this topic.

[Wardonation]

On 12/6/2022 at 8:36 AM, FormerBigDaddy said:

Anyone mind chiming in... my setup should be delivered this week.  Making sure this is going to be worth my time!

You will make gains early and late if you keep at it. None of those gains will last forever unless you keep doing the system. The go away completely but as long as you stay at it you will enjoy it. 

[FormerBigDaddy]

35 minutes ago, anw79 said:

 

Nobody can say for sure but I would be surprised if you didn't gain at least 5 mph given what you mentioned.  One thing to be mindful of is how you mix the weight sessions and superspeed.  There is some information out there about how to choose what you want to prioritize and how to stagger.  Fit for golf/Mike Carroll has a lot of great info on this topic.

This is actually a pretty big concern for me.  I lift 5 days a week, monday through friday, early in the morning before work.  I don't really have the time to lifts after work so I'm not exactly sure how and when I'm going to fit in the speed training.  Obviously I can do speed work in the evenings but there's going to be some overlapping of days where I have to do both on the same day in order to do the program.

 

M/W/F I do a total body lift and Tues/Thurs I do arms and core with some golf specific rotational and anti-rotational movements.  With that said I've been doing this routine for awhile not and I don't really feel sore or fatigued after or later in the day.  I figured I could do 1 of my speed training sessions on the weekend when I don't work out but there's no avoiding the other 2 days overlapping days a work out. I do work out early enough that I could potentially do my speed training in an empty room at my gym directly after my workout but not sure that's the best idea as I won't exactly be rested at all for it.  Hoping by the evenings I can be rested enough to not hinder the speed training.

Edited December 7, 2022 by FormerBigDaddy

[airjammer]

34 minutes ago, FormerBigDaddy said:

This is actually a pretty big concern for me.  I lift 5 days a week, monday through friday, early in the morning before work.  I don't really have the time to lifts after work so I'm not exactly sure how and when I'm going to fit in the speed training.  Obviously I can do speed work in the evenings but there's going to be some overlapping of days where I have to do both on the same day in order to do the program.

 

M/W/F I do a total body lift and Tues/Thurs I do arms and core with some golf specific rotational and anti-rotational movements.  With that said I've been doing this routine for awhile not and I don't really feel sore or fatigued after or later in the day.  I figured I could do 1 of my speed training sessions on the weekend when I don't work out but there's no avoiding the other 2 days overlapping days a work out. I do work out early enough that I could potentially do my speed training in an empty room at my gym directly after my workout but not sure that's the best idea as I won't exactly be rested at all for it.  Hoping by the evenings I can be rested enough to not hinder the speed training.

I bring the blue stick with me to the gym and use my regular gym work as a primer or what they can R.A.M.P.  I treat it as contrast training. 
 

For me personally I get a boost of speed when I swing the stick after a cable rotation exercise. 

[anw79]

41 minutes ago, FormerBigDaddy said:

This is actually a pretty big concern for me.  I lift 5 days a week, monday through friday, early in the morning before work.  I don't really have the time to lifts after work so I'm not exactly sure how and when I'm going to fit in the speed training.  Obviously I can do speed work in the evenings but there's going to be some overlapping of days where I have to do both on the same day in order to do the program.

 

M/W/F I do a total body lift and Tues/Thurs I do arms and core with some golf specific rotational and anti-rotational movements.  With that said I've been doing this routine for awhile not and I don't really feel sore or fatigued after or later in the day.  I figured I could do 1 of my speed training sessions on the weekend when I don't work out but there's no avoiding the other 2 days overlapping days a work out. I do work out early enough that I could potentially do my speed training in an empty room at my gym directly after my workout but not sure that's the best idea as I won't exactly be rested at all for it.  Hoping by the evenings I can be rested enough to not hinder the speed training.

 

If you plan to keep lifting 5 days a week it's going to hinder your speed work so you'll need to decide what is more important to you.  Look up Mike Carroll/Fit for golf like i said he writes about this stuff in more detail than most would ever care to know.  He discusses some potential splits and the interaction between lifting/speed training.

[golfarb1]

I have recently received emails promoting the “Super Speed Squeeze”. This foam device , which fits over the grip ,  supposedly increases grip strength by 6% and clubhead speed by 1.5mph. It is based partly upon the fact that touring pros have higher grip strength than amateur golfers. 
Any comments?

[clevited]

24 minutes ago, golfarb1 said:

I have recently received emails promoting the “Super Speed Squeeze”. This foam device , which fits over the grip ,  supposedly increases grip strength by 6% and clubhead speed by 1.5mph. It is based partly upon the fact that touring pros have higher grip strength than amateur golfers. 
Any comments?

 

Never heard of that I will check it out.  I think grip on a golf club needs to be taken seriously though.  At the very least, people should wear a glove, replace grips more often, clean grips more often, and find the grippiest grip they can find such that they can realize more club speed via less tension in the hands and wrists at impact.

[jestein1679]

On 12/5/2022 at 7:41 AM, FormerBigDaddy said:

Hey guys.. just purchased the superspeed sticks along with the prgr launch monitor to track progress.  Looking for some feedback given my individual circumstances.

 

1.  I play very regularly and even through the winter.  Played about 45 rounds last year and probably more than that this year.  With that said I really don't go to the range that much... i have limited time and i "just play."

 

2.  I am 40 years old and obviously not a newbie.  I finished the year at an 8.2 handicap.  With that said I have never done any kind of speed training.

 

3.  I do exercise regularly so any benefit that could be added by starting a fitness program is off the table b/c I already do a lot of golf related lifts and full body movements in the weight room.  Gains in speed will have to come strictly from adding the speed training.

 

4.  I am quite the dedicated type and if i say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.  So I will be following the program from probably the end of december to at least April/May.  So barring any injuries or setbacks, I'm planning to do every level of the program.  3 days a week, tracking progress, and no missed days.

 

5.  My current max swing speed is about 107.  I would be thrilled if I could add 5 mph of swing speed by next season.  Gaining 1 club in distance would be awesome.

 

 

Given that information... what can I realistically expect?  Any tips/tricks that I wouldn't learn by reading the superspeed instructions/videos?

 

Thanks!

it’s a pretty simple program.  2-3x a week.   Swing the sticks as fast as you can using a monitor for feedback.   Do not think about technique at all.  Big swings.  Step swings. Matt Wolff swings.  The sole goal is to see if you can get a higher number on the monitor. Whatever you need to do to obtain that.  Keep a chart of your fastest swings with each stick.  Try and beat your max every time you do it.

 

 Ignore the left handed swings.  They’re a waste of time.  
 

Don’t overthink the training schedule. Is it ideal, maybe not.   It won’t prevent you from gaining speed.  You’ll easily gain 5mph if you stick with it in 8 weeks.  Try to mix in some max out sessions at the range with no concern where the ball goes ideally.  
 

If you do it right you’ll have a lot of fun with it.  

Edited December 8, 2022 by jestein1679

[jestein1679]

9 hours ago, golfarb1 said:

I have recently received emails promoting the “Super Speed Squeeze”. This foam device , which fits over the grip ,  supposedly increases grip strength by 6% and clubhead speed by 1.5mph. It is based partly upon the fact that touring pros have higher grip strength than amateur golfers. 
Any comments?

Wrap a towel around the grip and save yourself $40.   Or do some specific grip strengthening exercises that you can find through basic search.

[FormerBigDaddy]

My sticks came in the mail today along with the PRGR. Started messing around with them to see how to best create speed for about 20 minutes and went back for another session to try a couple more things tonight. The speeds jumped a lot over the course of maybe 50 swings or so total. I alternated through the sticks and was pretty shocked how quickly I found way to create more speed. Very satisfying…

 

Baseline data:

 

Green: 118 max

Blue: 113 max

Red: 107 Max

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by FormerBigDaddy

[SirFuego]

On 12/7/2022 at 12:15 PM, FormerBigDaddy said:

This is actually a pretty big concern for me.  I lift 5 days a week, monday through friday, early in the morning before work.  I don't really have the time to lifts after work so I'm not exactly sure how and when I'm going to fit in the speed training.  Obviously I can do speed work in the evenings but there's going to be some overlapping of days where I have to do both on the same day in order to do the program.

 

M/W/F I do a total body lift and Tues/Thurs I do arms and core with some golf specific rotational and anti-rotational movements.  With that said I've been doing this routine for awhile not and I don't really feel sore or fatigued after or later in the day.  I figured I could do 1 of my speed training sessions on the weekend when I don't work out but there's no avoiding the other 2 days overlapping days a work out. I do work out early enough that I could potentially do my speed training in an empty room at my gym directly after my workout but not sure that's the best idea as I won't exactly be rested at all for it.  Hoping by the evenings I can be rested enough to not hinder the speed training.

If there is room where you work out, I would do the speed training before your main routine.  Maybe cut back a set on your main exercise if time is a concern.  If you do compound lifts in the 2-5 rep range and leave at least one or two reps in the tank each set, you might even be able to superset it with your compound lifts if whatever gym you go is conducive to doing that.  Like airjammer said, it can serve as a nice contrast.  It worked well for me in the time I tried doing that.

 

If you can't do them together, do whatever fits your schedule.  If you can't work out your schedule, then maybe start incorporating more explosive exercises into your workout (plyos, kb swings, cleans, etc.)

 

That said, I probably won't get too technical in terms of how you go about doing it.  You'll likely get newbie speed gains regardless of how you go about doing it.  So just do what fits your schedule.

[me05501]

Can someone tell me how long these sticks are compared to a club? I can swing in my basement shop up to about a 6-7 iron length. If they're longer than that I'd have to move outside. 

[airjammer]

They are 45 inches I believe 

[Rbsiedsc]

On 12/7/2022 at 6:54 PM, jestein1679 said:

it’s a pretty simple program.  2-3x a week.   Swing the sticks as fast as you can using a monitor for feedback.   Do not think about technique at all.  Big swings.  Step swings. Matt Wolff swings.  The sole goal is to see if you can get a higher number on the monitor. Whatever you need to do to obtain that.  Keep a chart of your fastest swings with each stick.  Try and beat your max every time you do it.

 

 Ignore the left handed swings.  They’re a waste of time.  
 

Don’t overthink the training schedule. Is it ideal, maybe not.   It won’t prevent you from gaining speed.  You’ll easily gain 5mph if you stick with it in 8 weeks.  Try to mix in some max out sessions at the range with no concern where the ball goes ideally.  
 

If you do it right you’ll have a lot of fun with it.  

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I will say non dominant swings do have benefits. In a group of testers that only did non dom for 6 weeks gained 5% of something. It’s all about the brain connections being made

[FormerBigDaddy]

Session 3 today and was the first in which I did a speed session on the same day as a lift. Wasn’t sure what to expect but it went ok. For reference I lift early AM Monday through Friday so there’s no avoiding overlapping twice with speed training/lifts. Today was my bi/tri/core day with some cable rotations and anti-rotational work. Definitely didn’t feel like I could be fast with the Sticks tonight. 
 

Managed to match my highest speed on the green stick from my 2nd session in which I was well rested. But I only hit that number once and all my other speeds were down 1-2 mph. All in all I guess it’s a win since I still hit my max but hoping this doesn’t hold me back. I’m definitely going to make sure my 3rd session of every week will be on the weekend when I’m rested. Very curious to see what that brings later this week. 
 

green 122, blue 117, red 110

[FormerBigDaddy]

Interesting results today. 3rd session this week and was a bit slower than my last couple of sessions. It’s only week 2 but topped out at 120 with green stick. 
 

What’s interesting is that I hit some drivers into my net when I was done and topped out a 111mph and was pretty consistent around 109-110 for about 10 swings. 
 

From what I had read I should be swinging the green stick at 130mph to hit 110 with driver hitting a ball. What I suspect is that when I use the swing sticks I’m not really out of control. I had a sneaking suspicion of this as well. When I swing the sticks, especially the blue and red ones, I feel like it’s my Normal driver swing/speed and that I can easily hit those speeds with real swings hitting a ball. 
 

Has anyone else noticed this? That there isn’t has big of a gap between the sticks and their driver as the charts says there should be?

[AlohaPineapple]

23 hours ago, FormerBigDaddy said:

Interesting results today. 3rd session this week and was a bit slower than my last couple of sessions. It’s only week 2 but topped out at 120 with green stick. 
 

What’s interesting is that I hit some drivers into my net when I was done and topped out a 111mph and was pretty consistent around 109-110 for about 10 swings. 
 

From what I had read I should be swinging the green stick at 130mph to hit 110 with driver hitting a ball. What I suspect is that when I use the swing sticks I’m not really out of control. I had a sneaking suspicion of this as well. When I swing the sticks, especially the blue and red ones, I feel like it’s my Normal driver swing/speed and that I can easily hit those speeds with real swings hitting a ball. 
 

Has anyone else noticed this? That there isn’t has big of a gap between the sticks and their driver as the charts says there should be?

nothing to add here but as someone who has been considering these, appreciate the detailed review.  looking forward to hearing more about your experience.

[jestein1679]

On 12/18/2022 at 8:36 AM, FormerBigDaddy said:

Interesting results today. 3rd session this week and was a bit slower than my last couple of sessions. It’s only week 2 but topped out at 120 with green stick. 
 

What’s interesting is that I hit some drivers into my net when I was done and topped out a 111mph and was pretty consistent around 109-110 for about 10 swings. 
 

From what I had read I should be swinging the green stick at 130mph to hit 110 with driver hitting a ball. What I suspect is that when I use the swing sticks I’m not really out of control. I had a sneaking suspicion of this as well. When I swing the sticks, especially the blue and red ones, I feel like it’s my Normal driver swing/speed and that I can easily hit those speeds with real swings hitting a ball. 
 

Has anyone else noticed this? That there isn’t has big of a gap between the sticks and their driver as the charts says there should be?

 

I would say avg gap between sticks is about 6 mph give or take 1-2.  Slightly closer gap between blue and green than blue and red.  Your red stick will track your swing speed pretty close.  For me I swing the red stick slightly faster than a club but others can match one to one.   I think what you read about the green stick at 130 and chs at 110 is incorrect.  
 

You can swing faster though.  Push yourself.  Get longer.  Do step swings. Faster backswing.  Bigger turn.  Try different techniques.  Get angry etc.

Edited December 20, 2022 by jestein1679

[FormerBigDaddy]

8 hours ago, jestein1679 said:

 

I would say avg gap between sticks is about 6 mph give or take 1-2.  Slightly closer gap between blue and green than blue and red.  Your red stick will track your swing speed pretty close.  For me I swing the red stick slightly faster than a club but others can match one to one.   I think what you read about the green stick at 130 and chs at 110 is incorrect.  
 

You can swing faster though.  Push yourself.  Get longer.  Do step swings. Faster backswing.  Bigger turn.  Try different techniques.  Get angry etc.

Today was very interesting. I was rested but don’t think that was the difference. Made a setup change and my speed jumped 4mph on max with green stick. You’re exactly right… I think the point of the sticks is to experiment and find where the speed is. I think the launch monitor to track speeds is a must for success. You can see in real time what works and what doesn’t. I think we all have a lot of speed left on the table and the sticks help you find it and not really to develop it. 
 

127 green, 123 blue, 113 red

Edited December 20, 2022 by FormerBigDaddy