So Koepka doesn't get enough love; but does Fowler get too much.

[TigerTom]

Saw a tweet yesterday with a Sunday red shirt next to a Sunday orange shirt asking which one it was going to be.

 

From what I have read Rickie Fowler seems to be a great guy. And he is probably the best marketeer on tour but we keep putting him on the list of notables and I really don't think he belongs there.

 

I get the feeling that the SB2K16 persona is great to sell Puma caps but won't be enough to endure the test of time. When the cameras turn off what remains are the Ws and on that score he is less than notable.

 

Then again Paige Spiranac is getting golf endorsements left and right for being pretty so maybe times have changed.

[puttfordoux]

The day we stop putting Rickie on the list of notables is probably the day he wins his major. We see what happened when he was named one of the most overrated players...he went and won the Players.

[MattyO1984]

Yes Fowler gets too much, there is not even an argument there but as you acknowledge, that is the modern world.

 

Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Depends on who you ask I guess.

[Lodestone]

I like Rickie. I'd like to see him win more than he does.

 

The networks, and it seems to me, especially Jim Nantz, drool over him, practically begging the gods to make him better than he evidently is.

 

In the meantime, the real diehard Rickie fans have to be satisfied with his "style".

[MattyO1984]

I like Rickie. I'd like to see him win more than he does.

 

The networks, and it seems to me, especially Jim Nantz, drool over him, practically begging the gods to make him better than he evidently is.

 

In the meantime, the real diehard Rickie fans have to be satisfied with his "style".

 

I bet Puma are quite satisfied with his style...$$$

[HackerD]

Fowler’s got 8 professional wins and he’s been competitive in several majors. So there is some substance to go with the style.

[TigerTom]

Fowler's got 8 professional wins and he's been competitive in several majors. So there is some substance to go with the style.

 

There is definitely substance in his game. Not taking away from his winning the Players, Deutch Bank and a couple others. And he is currently ranked 9th OWGR. While that is no small feat it is also not notable or even memorable.

 

Media and networks drool over him as if he is still a rookie ready to blow up the golf scene when he has been around for a while and so far his greatest impact has been on golf attire.

 

And can’t say I love the duck bill cap or the bright orange – but that is neither here nor there.

[Vindog]

Besides his length, what is there about Koepka that is marketable? There are at least 5 threads where there are posts saying that he and the current crop have little personally. Yet people can’t wait to start threads about Rickie, whether positive or negative, with overstated acoounts of announcers calling for him to win The Slam.

 

So there’s your answer

[Jagpilotohio]

 

He’s 9th in the world, he has a pleasant personality, the girls think he’s pretty, the kids love him, and he’s genuinely a nice guy.

 

 

Gee, How in the world does he get so much love from the media and the advertisers? LOL.

[gioguy21]

Fowler's got 8 professional wins and he's been competitive in several majors. So there is some substance to go with the style.

the fact he went an entire season and was T-5 or better in every major shows there is substance.

 

he was hurt this week too -- we need to remember that.

 

personally IMO, his putting is good enough, his bunker/short game play is plenty good enough -- he just needs help off the tee and proximity to hole. Rickie seems to be more vulnerable to the 'gotta have some luck on my side' kinda streaks.

[dpb5031]

Koepka has definitely earned more love than he's gotten, but I think that'll change now. He's a great player and athlete, but not particularly charismatic or endearing at face value.

 

Fowler will remain a part of the discussion as long as he continues to contend in the majors, remains one of the top players in the world, and makes Ryder and Presidents Cup Teams... things that he has done more consistently than just about any other player who hasn't actually won a major yet, and even many who have broken through.

 

Rickie's unique style & flair obviously resonates with sponsors and consumers alike and earns him mega-bucks in endorsements. I think lots of folks including fellow pros are a bit jealous. He's got plenty of time to break through to win a major and I think he eventually will.

[NevinW]

Ricky is a great player with numerous accomplishments. He seems to be in the mix on Sunday very frequently and if he keeps that up, eventually things will go his way and he will win one. The way he played when he won his Players Championship made me a believer. No one thought Sergio was going to win one either. That is he very marketable is just a plus for him.

[playar32]

It all goes back to Arnold Palmer. When Mark McCormak started to sell him on endorsements, it was on his like-ably, not on his ability to win. Mark knew his age as a champion had a limit, but his age was an endorser would always be with him.

 

Fast forward to today, and people using the same strategy. It's more about how you connect with fans than what you really do on the course. That's why Fowler probably has way more endorsement dollars and money that multiple major winners like Brooks or Martin Kaymer.

 

I don't know this for a fact, but I assume that LPGA players like Morgan Pressel and Paula Creamer get way more money for endorsements and appearances than Yani Tseng (at least in America), though the formers have less majors.

 

The MLB is having the same problem with Mike Trout, dude just wants to play baseball, but the MLB wants him to be Mr. Media.

[MtlJeff]

The irony of a thread about Fowler not winning enough to be noteworthy, the day after the only thing anyone wanted to talk about was a guy finishing second

[Konklifer]

The quality of post major threads is lacking to say the least.

[Warrick]

hindsight is not always 20/20, especially here.....

[kgeisler13]

Yes I think Rickie Fowler gets way too much love. If he is playing well by all means show alot of his round but when he is leaving putts 15 feet short I don't really want to see him play. I am not a Fowler fan though. I am sure he is a great guy and he is good for the tour. He just don't do it for me when I watch golf though.

[imakaveli]

Rickie is great for golf, wish him well!

[nix]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

[Warrick]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

[Jose c.]

Tiger's gonna motivate rickie,not that he needs any. If you seen when he was waiting for koepka after his win yesterday and tiger totally overshadowed rickie. The look on rickie's face says it all,he looked like a little kid behind tiger.

[Vindog]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

 

If only that was the sole measure of endorsements and likeability. But, alas, it isn't. Everybody knows this by now, right?

[eebomb]

Yes I think Rickie Fowler gets way too much love. If he is playing well by all means show alot of his round but when he is leaving putts 15 feet short I don't really want to see him play. I am not a Fowler fan though. I am sure he is a great guy and he is good for the tour. He just don't do it for me when I watch golf though.

they hardly showed him yesterday when he was playing poorly.

[Warrick]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

 

If only that was the sole measure of endorsements and likeability. But, alas, it isn't. Everybody knows this by now, right?

 

I find Brooks as likeable as Fowler in every aspect.

[Cincy_Ken]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

 

If only that was the sole measure of endorsements and likeability. But, alas, it isn't. Everybody knows this by now, right?

 

Agreed. I have no issue with Rickies endorsements and media exposure because he is so media friendly. I have an issue with him included in discussions of elite players because his resume is nowhere near DJ, Rory, Spieth, JT, and now Brooks. His career is trending like Kuch more than a big time winner.

 

Brooks' aloofness doesn't help his cause. By exactly like I just said about Fowler if Brooks wants the media exposure he needs to be a little more media friendly.

[Vindog]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

 

If only that was the sole measure of endorsements and likeability. But, alas, it isn't. Everybody knows this by now, right?

 

I find Brooks as likeable as Fowler in every aspect.

 

Well, sir my suggestion would be to start up a company and give that man an endorsement! Kidding aside, i know what you are saying but endorsement executives don't give a hoot about us. They want the people who are going to spend the most money, and that is the parents of kids who are fans of Rickie Fowler. Positive role models and likeable personalities are going to get it.

 

Even the exulted Tiger Woods with his GOAT-in-the-making-career got dropped by a few corporations some years ago.

[marmooskapaul]

Rickie =. Creamer

 

Brooks =. Sorenstam

[nix]

Personality counts for so much in who people love. Koepka has little, Ricky has tons.

 

 

Brooks has 3 Majors, Rickie has none....

 

If only that was the sole measure of endorsements and likeability. But, alas, it isn't. Everybody knows this by now, right?

 

I find Brooks as likeable as Fowler in every aspect.

 

I believe you. But you're in a tiny sliver of the population that has the same opinion. I find Koepka to be as boring as they come. He's obviously a better golfer, but I don't get interested in watching him at all.

[kgeisler13]

Lets be honest DJ doesnt have much of a personality either but they continue to interview him all the time.

[bigred90gt]

Fowler's got 8 professional wins and he's been competitive in several majors. So there is some substance to go with the style.

 

There is definitely substance in his game. Not taking away from his winning the Players, Deutch Bank and a couple others. And he is currently ranked 9th OWGR. While that is no small feat it is also not notable or even memorable.

 

Media and networks drool over him as if he is still a rookie ready to blow up the golf scene when he has been around for a while and so far his greatest impact has been on golf attire.

 

And can’t say I love the duck bill cap or the bright orange – but that is neither here nor there.

 

So, being the 9th best golfer (by ranking) on the entire planet, out of countless millions who play this game, isn’t noteable? lol, what’s your OWGR sitting at currently? 8 or better?