Mizuno 2019

[halfsumo]

Just got back from the shop and looked at the new woods and hit the ST190. Some thoughts:

-The 190 and 190G look a little different at address. The 190 has a bit of a teardrop to it and the 190G is a little more symmetrical. I preferred the look of the G, but once I hit the 190 I got used to the shape really fast and it gave excellent numbers. For me, I don't need the adjustability of the G and probably wouldn't pay extra just for looks, but I think I may need to revisit this on another visit. I was planning on just buying the 190 but the G look has me thinking.

-The regular 190 is pretty low spin, my regular low-face strike pattern was consistently giving 2400 and a lot of other drivers usually go up to 2700-3000 for me on those low face strikes. I hit a couple of high face strikes and the spin was 1600-1700. If I bought the G I'd probably have to put the weights all the way back. ( I did not hit the G today.)

-ST190 is very big and friendly looking, and like others said looks like it lays flat and a square/open which is just a great look for me.

-The 3 wood shape, for whatever reason did not call to me. But,...

-The 5 wood! Wow, perfect shape, sits flat and square to my eye, will probably order the 5 wood with Tensei White to compliment my current 3 wood.

[mpmz71]

Let’s be honest, no driver out there looks as nice as the new Mizunos. They look like a club you HAVE to try. They also perform as good, if not better, than anything currently available. For me, the only club better than it from a performance standpoint is the F9 (and the difference is marginal), but I think with a proper fitting not just plug and play in the bay type fitting would make the choice a coin flip. If so I would go Mizuno every time.

 

Can you give any details to the comparison of heads for the F9 vs ST190? I've not been able to hit both clubs with the same shaft so it's been hard to judge. I'm curious about launch angle, ball speed, spin, dispersion and any other thing you might can compare? I love the look, sound and feel of the ST190, but I can't tell how it performs really.

[mtex22]

Just got back from the shop and looked at the new woods and hit the ST190. Some thoughts:

-The 190 and 190G look a little different at address. The 190 has a bit of a teardrop to it and the 190G is a little more symmetrical. I preferred the look of the G, but once I hit the 190 I got used to the shape really fast and it gave excellent numbers. For me, I don't need the adjustability of the G and probably wouldn't pay extra just for looks, but I think I may need to revisit this on another visit. I was planning on just buying the 190 but the G look has me thinking.

-The regular 190 is pretty low spin, my regular low-face strike pattern was consistently giving 2400 and a lot of other drivers usually go up to 2700-3000 for me on those low face strikes. I hit a couple of high face strikes and the spin was 1600-1700. If I bought the G I'd probably have to put the weights all the way back. ( I did not hit the G today.)

-ST190 is very big and friendly looking, and like others said looks like it lays flat and a square/open which is just a great look for me.

-The 3 wood shape, for whatever reason did not call to me. But,...

-The 5 wood! Wow, perfect shape, sits flat and square to my eye, will probably order the 5 wood with Tensei White to compliment my current 3 wood.

 

 

Any feedback on lofts? I read somewhere Mizuno's lofts are higher than stated. So should we all "Loft down" lol

[starsail85]

Just got back from the shop and looked at the new woods and hit the ST190. Some thoughts:

-The 190 and 190G look a little different at address. The 190 has a bit of a teardrop to it and the 190G is a little more symmetrical. I preferred the look of the G, but once I hit the 190 I got used to the shape really fast and it gave excellent numbers. For me, I don't need the adjustability of the G and probably wouldn't pay extra just for looks, but I think I may need to revisit this on another visit. I was planning on just buying the 190 but the G look has me thinking.

-The regular 190 is pretty low spin, my regular low-face strike pattern was consistently giving 2400 and a lot of other drivers usually go up to 2700-3000 for me on those low face strikes. I hit a couple of high face strikes and the spin was 1600-1700. If I bought the G I'd probably have to put the weights all the way back. ( I did not hit the G today.)

-ST190 is very big and friendly looking, and like others said looks like it lays flat and a square/open which is just a great look for me.

-The 3 wood shape, for whatever reason did not call to me. But,...

-The 5 wood! Wow, perfect shape, sits flat and square to my eye, will probably order the 5 wood with Tensei White to compliment my current 3 wood.

 

 

Any feedback on lofts? I read somewhere Mizuno's lofts are higher than stated. So should we all "Loft down" lol

 

Not sure who started that nonsense , but the lofts are standard

 

They also do not sit way open like somebody else said

 

They look perfect

[halfsumo]

Hit the 9.5, currently play a 9.5 and was getting ideal numberes from the Mizuno so nothing weird with loft/launch.

[rt_charger]

Not sure who started that nonsense , but the lofts are standard

 

They also do not sit way open like somebody else said

 

They look perfect

Yeah pros wouldn't have put the thing into play if it was actually the case. The colour must just bring out the face so it's more noticeable. Hence the loft comments.

[summerof]

I've seen them and they certainly don't sit closed! Very nice looking. They do look friendly. I really like the look of the 3 wood

[GolfChannel]

Let’s be honest, no driver out there looks as nice as the new Mizunos. They look like a club you HAVE to try. They also perform as good, if not better, than anything currently available. For me, the only club better than it from a performance standpoint is the F9 (and the difference is marginal), but I think with a proper fitting not just plug and play in the bay type fitting would make the choice a coin flip. If so I would go Mizuno every time.

 

Can you give any details to the comparison of heads for the F9 vs ST190? I've not been able to hit both clubs with the same shaft so it's been hard to judge. I'm curious about launch angle, ball speed, spin, dispersion and any other thing you might can compare? I love the look, sound and feel of the ST190, but I can't tell how it performs really.

 

Check out Page 29, I took photos and gave feedback. I am still slightly F9 biased at the moment, but if I can swing the time for a proper fitting I know it’ll be a toss up. I prefer the head shape of the ST190 as it sits almost like a big 3 wood in terms of feel. The F9 took some time to get used to cosmetically, but you can’t argue with the performance.

[Matzi]

Not sure if this has been brought up but anyone hear anything for the MP line coming out? I have no issues with my MP18s but just curious. Also I heard some rumors of the new T series wedge.

[BlackM00Nlight]

Just heard raw T7’s from a golfwrx’r here. I’m hoping for a new MP line too, REALLY wanting a black offering from Mizuno

[reider69]

Does Mizuno offer upcharge shaft options for new driver? I looked on website and only the stock shafts are listed.

[scott_Donald]

Does Mizuno offer upcharge shaft options for new driver? I looked on website and only the stock shafts are listed.

 

https://golf.mizunoeurope.com/custom-fit/custom-specs/?tab=3

[BigHook25]

I've seen them and they certainly don't sit closed! Very nice looking. They do look friendly. I really like the look of the 3 wood

 

Both the driver and fairway wood are amazing looking. I also think the fairway woods are just the right shape, not too small, not huge.

[WillyL]

No sighting in Canada yet. Hoping it gets to Golftown soon. Love to try it.

[3woodvt]

Did not like the look of the ST190 personally. Hit it a few times but just didn't suit my eye. Good luck to all. Ill stick w my original choice .

[GolfChannel]

Did not like the look of the ST190 personally. Hit it a few times but just didn't suit my eye. Good luck to all. Ill stick w my original choice .

 

There is always a contrarian.

[3woodvt]

Did not like the look of the ST190 personally. Hit it a few times but just didn't suit my eye. Good luck to all. Ill stick w my original choice .

 

There is always a contrarian.

sorry. In FL on a trip and went by PGAss and saw they had these in demo bays. Just didn't like the shape for me. Didn't try the 190g as I've read others say there different and the reg 190 was not appealing to my eye. Felt solid but was closed faced with how they had it set up. When I hovered it for hitting I saw a lot of face thought it was 12 degree or something 3 hits and moved on. Just saying try it before buying it. Beautiful to some but not for me and hey I come from Turbulators and now power ridges w Cobra and thank they are appealing .you just never know till you address it and how you react. Best wishes for those that adore it .

[mpmz71]

Let’s be honest, no driver out there looks as nice as the new Mizunos. They look like a club you HAVE to try. They also perform as good, if not better, than anything currently available. For me, the only club better than it from a performance standpoint is the F9 (and the difference is marginal), but I think with a proper fitting not just plug and play in the bay type fitting would make the choice a coin flip. If so I would go Mizuno every time.

 

Can you give any details to the comparison of heads for the F9 vs ST190? I've not been able to hit both clubs with the same shaft so it's been hard to judge. I'm curious about launch angle, ball speed, spin, dispersion and any other thing you might can compare? I love the look, sound and feel of the ST190, but I can't tell how it performs really.

 

Check out Page 29, I took photos and gave feedback. I am still slightly F9 biased at the moment, but if I can swing the time for a proper fitting I know it’ll be a toss up. I prefer the head shape of the ST190 as it sits almost like a big 3 wood in terms of feel. The F9 took some time to get used to cosmetically, but you can’t argue with the performance.

 

I'm not seeing that there is a page 29. I only see 21 pages. Am I missing something?

[BlackM00Nlight]

There are those who like and dislike everything, 3woodvt simply gave his thoughts and opinions on the matter while respecting those who view otherwise. To that I say well done!

[3woodvt]

There are those who like and dislike everything, 3woodvt simply gave his thoughts and opinions on the matter while respecting those who view otherwise. To that I say well done!

Thanks Blackmoonlihgt, Actually the Cobra and the Mizuno were the two most sought after drivers for me in 2019 just sharing a simple man's observations but sometimes that changes when actually hitting and seeing (feeling the club). On a sidenote I've never gotten along with Callaway drivers but actually like the Epic flash this year with the exception of the sound. Anyway I'll leave this one alone as we all have our favs out there but this being an information site only trying to encourage others to actually go and test drive these things before buying before hitting...you just never know.

[Matzi]

Just heard raw T7's from a golfwrx'r here. I'm hoping for a new MP line too, REALLY wanting a black offering from Mizuno

 

I'm having a tough time believing you about wanting a black offering based on your signature haha. I did hear that a raw T7 might come out but them being a couple years old I imagine that finish could be on the new line.

[Warrick]

Unless something has changed, would fully expect MP20\T20 this coming September. I think they wanted T release wedges back on schedule with MP, but I really know very little.....

[BlackM00Nlight]

Just heard raw T7's from a golfwrx'r here. I'm hoping for a new MP line too, REALLY wanting a black offering from Mizuno

 

I'm having a tough time believing you about wanting a black offering based on your signature haha. I did hear that a raw T7 might come out but them being a couple years old I imagine that finish could be on the new line.

 

If I'm not careful, I'll have a full Mizzy bag by the end of this year. lol

[joshella]

Sorry for going slightly off topic but do you know what shaft Eddie Pepperell is using in this new 190? Wondering if he changed what he gamed in the G400?

 

 

Currently playing the Ping and interested in the Mizuno so just wondering (not that I’m comparing my game to Eddie’s!).

 

Thanks in advance

Man on the Van was on holiday. He's back today and says Eddie's ST190G is set top 10 degree with weights in neutral - position 2 in each track. Shaft: Graphics Design Tour AD - IZ 7 X, 45inch, 1 inch tip, Golf Pride MCC Align 1 layer tape.

[Ritchie]

Top bombing mate, thanks a lot, have to recheck but sure he was a diamana man in his G400.

Interesting and thanks for sharing pal.

[halfsumo]

Just heard raw T7's from a golfwrx'r here. I'm hoping for a new MP line too, REALLY wanting a black offering from Mizuno

 

I'm having a tough time believing you about wanting a black offering based on your signature haha. I did hear that a raw T7 might come out but them being a couple years old I imagine that finish could be on the new line.

 

If I'm not careful, I'll have a full Mizzy bag by the end of this year. lol

 

Was in Tokyo last year and went to the Mizuno store. They have a bunch of MP iron finishes and a few MP iron models that they don’t sell here. Also, all of the woods come stock with premium shafts like GD TP and Tensei Pro Blue. You would love it.

[mpmz71]

Are any of the ST190 shaft offerings similar to an Atmos Red TS 7X or Blue 6S?

 

I was fit into those shafts, but I was hoping to try a stock shaft closest to that in the hope I wouldn't have to buy an aftermarket shaft.

 

My clubhead speed is around 102-105. I have a quick tempo and a negative AOA right now. I'm hoping to improve the AOA with a little work.

[Matzi]

They have an Atmos blue non tour spec in 6s, reds are in regular according to their site.

[mpmz71]

What are the main differences between the TS and regular shafts?

[siegs07]

I may be in the market for a new driver this year and I will definitely be trying the F9, Epic Flash, and ST190. All look great.