Interesting development - $3000 pay to caddy from a $1.3 million winners check? (MOD EDIT - NO POLIT

[braincramp52]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

 

Only change!? I've lost all respect for you and I'm very disappointed in your actions.

[MtlJeff]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

 

Only change!? I've lost all respect for you and I'm very disappointed in your actions.

 

I would've taken the driver than had him arrested for trying to steal it. But that's me

[ebrasmus21]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

 

Only change!? I've lost all respect for you and I'm very disappointed in your actions.

 

I would've taken the driver than had him arrested for trying to steal it. But that's me

 

Oh how little you must think of us, Basic...

[Under2hours]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

Says a lot about Kuch's character & your's too..... JMHO.....

 

Put it this way for all who have made comments about Sergio in the past, when a club caddy filled in, he handled it right....

 

But now he's probably kicking himself knowing those on Golfwrx thought he gave that caddy too much!!! :taunt:

[bscinstnct]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

 

Only change!? I've lost all respect for you and I'm very disappointed in your actions.

 

I would've taken the driver than had him arrested for trying to steal it. But that's me

 

I would have, if it was the Titleist, but it was this Aeroburner Ive been trying to get rid of anyway.

 

Gaudy thing reminds me of a bourgeoisie, Hamptons "white party". Embarassed just to be seen with it.

[duffer987]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

TBH - I would of yelled at him to go back and get the headcover the lazy sod. You're a better person than me.

[lowheel]

Hopefully the PGA stays at Mayakoba for awhile and Ortiz realizes he'll need to negotiate harder, get it in writing next year. Doesn't seem like Kuch is going to step up. Bag boys, bell hops, waiters, concierges, taxi drivers take notice. When the opportunity arises avoid Kuch for someone who might give you a decent tip.

 

[lowheel]

This is such a ridiculous thread and anyone worried about what Kuch paid his caddy should find other things to worry about. It's similar to classic experiment where, given the choice of getting one piece of candy and a sibling getting 2 pieces of candy or neither getting any candy, kids will always choose that neither gets candy. This caddy, unexpectedly, made more money in a week than he probably makes in a month.

 

Could Kuch have gone over the top and dropped $100K on him? Sure, it would have been a nice gesture. Would the caddy's life have been better off? Maybe, or he could have fallen into the classic trap lotto winners fall into where people start coming out of the woodwork begging for money, making his life miserable.

 

Should we berate these guys every time they leave a $100 tip for dinner rather than a $1,000 tip, because they can afford it?

No what is interesting is that an athlete who earns $3,000,000-$5,000,000/yr (including endorsements, fees.......) paid the caddy what would have been a fair amount $3,000 for the week but knowing full well what the standard rate is and then winning the tournament, did not pay him anything close to that (and no one expected him to pay 10%), and when confronted had what is no more then a lame a** response.

 

Another interesting aside. Looking at his career he hadn't been to Hawaii since 2016, the the prior two years didn't play until February, so the Mayakoba win resulted in him playing both the TOC & Sony..... More reason to thank El Tucan.

 

Yep he stiffed him......

 

Keep fighting the good fight i guess. Dont throw out your shoulder tapping yourself on the back

[lowheel]

No what is interesting is that an athlete who earns $3,000,000-$5,000,000/yr (including endorsements, fees.......) paid the caddy what would have been a fair amount $3,000 for the week but knowing full well what the standard rate is and then winning the tournament, did not pay him anything close to that (and no one expected him to pay 10%), and when confronted had what is no more then a lame a** response.

 

Another interesting aside. Looking at his career he hadn't been to Hawaii since 2016, the the prior two years didn't play until February, so the Mayakoba win resulted in him playing both the TOC & Sony..... More reason to thank El Tucan.

 

Yep he stiffed him......

Give us a fecking break.

You've spent how many years on this forum now showing disdain and disregard for the rules and etiquette of the game and those who follow them, the people you are paired up with at golf courses, and the staff that works there.

You have absolutely no point of reference in your golfing character to make a remotely nuanced or measured comment on this subject.

 

So why don't you go back to burning the new 2019 rule book for warmth and drafting letters to your club's committee about how they can make things better for you. xoxo

 

[lowheel]

Morning folks. How is everyone?

I've been up for over7hours.

I’d been awake for a couple hours already but I jumped in the car and drove for 2.5 hours before I hopped back in the thread-saddle. Throwing this out there - been meaning to for several pages... I don’t even like Kuchar. I’ve never rooted for him. His swing is ugly and his putting stroke I don’t care for either. He’d have to give me at least 10 strokes to even start to make it interesting if we played - even then I highly doubt I could take him. Fix your swing, Matt. I’ve seen peasants with a prettier swing! Carry on and good day to all.

 

;)

 

[lowheel]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

[bscinstnct]

Was hittin balls at the chelsea piers. Didnt do to bad considering its 30* and I havent hit a ball in couple months. Got to demo some cool irons.

 

Then, I forgot my driver in the stall, I left, jumped in a cab, go a couple blocks and I see this kid running next to the cab yelling, "Sir! You forgot your driver!"

 

I grabbed it from him as the cab was still moving and threw some change at him for his trouble.

 

Thats my business and I expect full support from the pro Koocher crowd ; )

TBH - I would of yelled at him to go back and get the headcover the lazy sod. You're a better person than me.

 

Good God,man. Dont get me started on that Aeroburner headcover. Id have thrown him 2 Quid of the Queens own Sterling to abscond with that. It looks like a boot some Jersey Shore surf wore and stepped into a supermarket box of Neapolitan ice cream.

[lowheel]

This is such a ridiculous thread and anyone worried about what Kuch paid his caddy should find other things to worry about. It's similar to classic experiment where, given the choice of getting one piece of candy and a sibling getting 2 pieces of candy or neither getting any candy, kids will always choose that neither gets candy. This caddy, unexpectedly, made more money in a week than he probably makes in a month.

 

Could Kuch have gone over the top and dropped $100K on him? Sure, it would have been a nice gesture. Would the caddy's life have been better off? Maybe, or he could have fallen into the classic trap lotto winners fall into where people start coming out of the woodwork begging for money, making his life miserable.

 

Should we berate these guys every time they leave a $100 tip for dinner rather than a $1,000 tip, because they can afford it?

No what is interesting is that an athlete who earns $3,000,000-$5,000,000/yr (including endorsements, fees.......) paid the caddy what would have been a fair amount $3,000 for the week but knowing full well what the standard rate is and then winning the tournament, did not pay him anything close to that (and no one expected him to pay 10%), and when confronted had what is no more then a lame a** response.

 

Another interesting aside. Looking at his career he hadn't been to Hawaii since 2016, the the prior two years didn't play until February, so the Mayakoba win resulted in him playing both the TOC & Sony..... More reason to thank El Tucan.

 

Yep he stiffed him......

 

bless your heart

[DavePelz4]

"Celui qui manie la foule meurt par la foule." Robespierre's thought as the guillotine fell...

 

I was thinking more China in the 60's.

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

[deadsolid...shank]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

Says a lot about Kuch's character & your's too..... JMHO.....

 

Put it this way for all who have made comments about Sergio in the past, when a club caddy filled in, he handled it right....

 

But now he's probably kicking himself knowing those on Golfwrx thought he gave that caddy too much!!! :taunt:

 

If you’re going to continue to fight this (losing) battle it might help if you made at least one single argument (or post) that actually was more than just your completely unsubstantiated opinion.

[braincramp52]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

Says a lot about Kuch's character & your's too..... JMHO.....

 

Put it this way for all who have made comments about Sergio in the past, when a club caddy filled in, he handled it right....

 

But now he's probably kicking himself knowing those on Golfwrx thought he gave that caddy too much!!! :taunt:

 

You don't know a damn thing about me.

[lowheel]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

Says a lot about Kuch's character & your's too..... JMHO.....

 

Put it this way for all who have made comments about Sergio in the past, when a club caddy filled in, he handled it right....

 

But now he's probably kicking himself knowing those on Golfwrx thought he gave that caddy too much!!! :taunt:

 

If you’re going to continue to fight this (losing) battle it might help if you made at least one single argument (or post) that actually was more than just your completely unsubstantiated opinion.

 

He wont stop, he cant stop because virtue signalling is a full time job. His Feelings dont care about your facts and its all about the feels!!! no room for free will on this ride!! Im just hoping kuch sends gillis a courrier with 10k cash in a glass bowl and is instructed to burn it in front of him at his front door just because he could and post it on instagram. it would be the only boss move at this point and would send under2hours into convulsions

 

[North Texas]

This is a forum where people give opinions & share thoughts.

 

Pro golfers are public figures and if they care as to the $'s made off the course are very careful and cultivate it...... Then there's Patrick Reid :taunt: .

 

Kuch regardless has botched it with his cavalier response when confronted.

 

Anyone who doesn't see that has their head in the sand.

 

What shocks me is the # here shooting the messenger and defending Kuch.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

Pro golf is a entertainment industry, nothing more , nothing less. If you're going to pick apart every cheap millionaire entertainer that is walking around you better get busy. The list is very long. The dude wasn't a tour caddy and deserved no more than whatever he agreed upon before he signed on. Shouldn't have a thing to do with where Kuchar finished. Of course maybe the guy would have given his money back if he missed the cut.

 

Says a lot about Kuch's character & your's too..... JMHO.....

 

Put it this way for all who have made comments about Sergio in the past, when a club caddy filled in, he handled it right....

 

But now he's probably kicking himself knowing those on Golfwrx thought he gave that caddy too much!!! :taunt:

 

How do you know that it says something about Kuch's character when you, or nobody else, knows what really happened?

[golfandfishing]

“How do you know that it says something about Kuch's character when you, or nobody else, knows what really happened?”

 

Hey bud, go find your own internet! This isn’t how we do things here.....

[ebrasmus21]

The thread that keeps on giving.

 

I’m proud of you guys and girls. Very proud.

[bscinstnct]

"Celui qui manie la foule meurt par la foule." Robespierre's thought as the guillotine fell...

 

I was thinking more China in the 60's.

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

 

Nice. How bout this one...the knife slice was so money

 

[kcsf]

How I feel about this thread. I'm so in love with it.

[deadsolid...shank]

The thread that keeps on giving.

 

I’m proud of you guys and girls. Very proud.

 

Don’t forget yourself as well, you’ve been there in the trenches all along as well. Just don’t hurt yourself if you pat yourself on the back.......U2H can tell you it can cause injury......to delusional posting!

[ebrasmus21]

The thread that keeps on giving.

 

I’m proud of you guys and girls. Very proud.

 

Don’t forget yourself as well, you’ve been there in the trenches all along as well. Just don’t hurt yourself if you pat yourself on the back.......U2H can tell you it can cause injury......to delusional posting!��

 

I have been in the trenches, I’ve been fired upon and I’ve returned fire as well. Not ready to give up.

[ThinkingPlus]

"Celui qui manie la foule meurt par la foule." Robespierre's thought as the guillotine fell...

 

I was thinking more China in the 60's.

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

The only thing I know about the Chinese for sure is that their intelligence agency has all my personal information on file.

[ebrasmus21]

How I feel about this thread. I'm so in love with it.

 

This post is worth a double like.

[deadsolid...shank]

"Celui qui manie la foule meurt par la foule." Robespierre's thought as the guillotine fell...

 

I was thinking more China in the 60's.

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

The only thing I know about the Chinese for sure is that their intelligence agency has all my personal information on file.

 

I knew soemthing was off. You’re a double agent. You’re way too smart to be hanging around here with this bunch of heathens.

[bscinstnct]

"Celui qui manie la foule meurt par la foule." Robespierre's thought as the guillotine fell...

 

I was thinking more China in the 60's.

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

The only thing I know about the Chinese for sure is that their intelligence agency has all my personal information on file.

 

Theres already a ThinkingPlus dna clone out there in China hittin golf balls and making witty posts about the Reign of Terror on chinagolfwrx ; )

[ThinkingPlus]

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

The only thing I know about the Chinese for sure is that their intelligence agency has all my personal information on file.

 

Theres already a ThinkingPlus dna clone out there in China hittin golf balls and making witty posts about the Reign of Terror on chinagolfwrx ; )

May they live in interesting times.

[ThinkingPlus]

I am not very familiar with Chinese history in general or recent Chinese history specifically. Robespierre's story is so rich in irony and so very, very applicable today.

 

Ancient Chinese secret huh?

 

Calgon?

The only thing I know about the Chinese for sure is that their intelligence agency has all my personal information on file.

 

I knew soemthing was off. You’re a double agent. You’re way too smart to be hanging around here with this bunch of heathens.

Not a double agent, but I have been privileged to work on some interesting stuff. Now just a retired Darwinian anti-SJW fat lady trying to learn how to hit my 5-iron more consistently.