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Has anyone tried both? How do they compare? Looking for a good fairway wood shaft.

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Yes, both are exceptional but they do feel a bit different from one another. In the same flex the IZ feels firmer and more one-piece. The DI definitely has a more noiceable/pronounced kick to it. I prefer the IZ

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You can demo via ShaftShack which I did and it helped sort it out. I demo'd DI, IZ and TP in 6S. For whatever reason, the IZ felt looser to me than the DI when playing a round - not logical based on design, but, what I felt. TP didn't give me the launch I need, went DI and am pleased. Best bet is to try them out during a round especially as they are some cash money.

 
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  • 7 months later...

IZ definitely feels more linear or one piece, DI for me felt very loose with a big kick to it. TP feels more like the IZ than the DI, but you still feel a small kick with the TP. It all comes down to how much load you put on the shaft and when your release is. The later your release the more you will feel each shaft kick. Ball flight from highest to lowest for me was IZ, DI, TP.

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> @KevCannon said:

> IZ definitely feels more linear or one piece, DI for me felt very loose with a big kick to it. TP feels more like the IZ than the DI, but you still feel a small kick with the TP. It all comes down to how much load you put on the shaft and when your release is. The later your release the more you will feel each shaft kick. Ball flight from highest to lowest for me was IZ, DI, TP.

 

I load the shaft pretty good with an early release. The AD DI was pretty good for me. Wondering about the IZ.

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> @OspreyCI said:

> > @KevCannon said:

> > IZ definitely feels more linear or one piece, DI for me felt very loose with a big kick to it. TP feels more like the IZ than the DI, but you still feel a small kick with the TP. It all comes down to how much load you put on the shaft and when your release is. The later your release the more you will feel each shaft kick. Ball flight from highest to lowest for me was IZ, DI, TP.

>

> I load the shaft pretty good with an early release. The AD DI was pretty good for me. Wondering about the IZ.

 

What exactly are you looking for? The IZ will feel different than the DI. IZ will feel stiffer in the handle section and probably about the same in the mid section, DI will feel softer overall and best suited for smooth tempo swings.

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Playing the Tensei Pro White now and it isn’t working out. The AD DI was good I thought and my fitter (seller) different. I hit many good drives with with the AD DI, but it could get loose.

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If the DI was good but could get a bit loose, then I would take a look at maybe tipping the DI, or the AD TP.

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The bend profile of the IZ is different than the DI, the TP is basically a tighter feeling DI. TP is stiff tip, firm mid, firm handle, where the DI is stiff tip, medium mid, soft/medium handle.

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I really love the feel of iz but I had to find a tx for it to work with my swing. Otherwise I was a huge of the gp. Like others have said you really need a smooth transition for the di to work. The tp is definitely my favorite 3 wood shaft of all time.

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> @KevCannon said:

> The bend profile of the IZ is different than the DI, the TP is basically a tighter feeling DI. TP is stiff tip, firm mid, firm handle, where the DI is stiff tip, medium mid, soft/medium handle.

 

Tried the TP and it was not fit me. Maybe the AD DI is just for me..Hoping the IZ would be just a hair better to hit more fairways. Can’t hirt you buy one and sell it if I don’t like it.

 

I’ll be staying with the PXG ahead because it just feels so darn good.

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Picked up an AD IZ from another GolfWrxer and can’t wait to get it. I’ll post my findings after a few rounds.

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Man the GD AD IZ is awesome! I do like it much better than the AD DI. Everyone perfectly described the loading of the IZ. It is more one piece and not such kick. I felt like I could control it a little better. Just felt really good paired up with PXG 0811x.

 

I came from a GD AD DI, then to a Tensei Pro White (PXG FIT) and now to the IZ. The Pro White I just couldn’t launch and the IZ is much better and feels very solid.

 

Glad I made the switch.... so far.

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Huge fan of the IZ, have had it for quite a while now. I have the DI in 3w, 3h and D.I.

 

IZ is much more of a one piece, launches higher but it is tighter and straighter. DI spins a ton so it balloons At times.

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On 1/21/2019 at 4:21 AM, Galanga said:

You can demo via ShaftShack which I did and it helped sort it out. I demo'd DI, IZ and TP in 6S. For whatever reason, the IZ felt looser to me than the DI when playing a round - not logical based on design, but, what I felt. TP didn't give me the launch I need, went DI and am pleased. Best bet is to try them out during a round especially as they are some cash money.

I had no idea of ShaftStack.  Ive been wanting to demo some shafts so this is perfect.  Can't wait.  

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Bump. 

 

Any long term reviews of both these shafts?

 

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I am back in the IZ in my PXG Proto+. Been using the TP and the IZ has a higher launch and more carry. Getting 2 clubs more into greens at a course I always play. Even my partners noticed the difference. Bombing it yesterday. So glad I made the switch. Best round of driving the ball in years. 
 

Now thinking about an IZ in my fairways because I hit them a little too low and sacrificing some yardage. 

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Picked up the IZ 6x for my SIM 2 Max and I'm not quite sold on it. I would rather be in an AD DI 6x. It definitely feels more stable and one-piece than the DI. I just like the way the DI loads and unloads for my swing.

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AD IZ was an awesome shaft in my 3w and 5w 2+ years ago. really had no complaints and it was the best ive ever hit fairways before. Definitely a higher launch than what im used to and prefer but it does a great job keeping spin low

 

never tried one in driver but now that ive got a 7.5* head I think it could be the answer

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5 hours ago, JoeFrigo said:

AD IZ was an awesome shaft in my 3w and 5w 2+ years ago. really had no complaints and it was the best ive ever hit fairways before. Definitely a higher launch than what im used to and prefer but it does a great job keeping spin low

 

never tried one in driver but now that ive got a 7.5* head I think it could be the answer

Good stuff. Thanks. Just what I need in my fairways because I need more launch for sure.

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On 2/19/2021 at 4:31 PM, scotty_2987 said:

Loving the IZ 6x in my TSI3. This thing just wants to go straight. Not sure if it’s the shaft, head or both but I’m loving it. FIR was about 60% before the new combo. These are my last 5 rounds with the IZ.  

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I swear the AD IZ and the TSi heads are a great match. 

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Transitioning from a AD Di 6x to an IZ 6S - I turn 40 in a few months and my SS has consistently dipped year over year to where I am at now at about 103MPH. I just got back from a quick range session and I hit the IZ S. When I hit it straight, it felt good but I was noticing I lost quite a few quick to the left. This is concerning because I play the ball right to left. It could have been the poorly cleaned range balls or the swing/shaft combo. I need to test it more but I am very interested in shaftshack. Why didn’t I think of this years ago?

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17 hours ago, NJGolfer0624 said:

Transitioning from a AD Di 6x to an IZ 6S - I turn 40 in a few months and my SS has consistently dipped year over year to where I am at now at about 103MPH. I just got back from a quick range session and I hit the IZ S. When I hit it straight, it felt good but I was noticing I lost quite a few quick to the left. This is concerning because I play the ball right to left. It could have been the poorly cleaned range balls or the swing/shaft combo. I need to test it more but I am very interested in shaftshack. Why didn’t I think of this years ago?

 

I’m a bit slower (and older), but found my miss the same with the IZ.  I was comparing DI-6 S and IZ-6 S, and expected the left miss wouldn’t be as severe with an assumed tighter version of the DI being the IZ.  I’m a left to right player, and found the DI leaning more right to left for me, and though the IZ would straighten that out a bit.  I only got more left side faster.  It was straighter by comparison, but exaggerated the left leaning miss.

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3 minutes ago, bjp1 said:

 

I’m a bit slower (and older), but found my miss the same with the IZ.  I was comparing DI-6 S and IZ-6 S, and expected the left miss wouldn’t be as severe with an assumed tighter version of the DI being the IZ.  I’m a left to right player, and found the DI leaning more right to left for me, and though the IZ would straighten that out a bit.  I only got more left side faster.  It was straighter by comparison, but exaggerated the left leaning miss.

I’m going to play a few holes today with my ball ProV1x instead of the range balls from yesterday. Curious to see if I get different results, if not I’m moving to the DI 6S to see if I get more similar results to my DI 6X.

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