New FlightScope Mevo+ (MERGED)

[aramirez24]

50 minutes ago, knickerbocker said:

 

There is an adjustable target in the AG range.  I used it last night!   Look for flag on the left hand side of the screen. 

Is there a way to get it to follow flight on the AG range like it does on the approach shots? 

[goudok]

Hey, so I got my unit this Saturday.  Can give you my initial impression. 

Had issues with the app crashing, reinstalled it seemed ok, but there is an update today so will try later after work.

Started off with chipping mode.  My net is 15 feet from hitting area, no metal dots on balls, all metrics seemed accurate from ball to club including spin but spin was italic.  Marked up a few balls with dots and spin instantly became "measured", however stayed within the same ball park as before.  No real difference as when I tried a "demo" unit against a rented gcquad. 

Then went onto hit full swings with a 7 iron.  No metal marks, spin seemed high off my mat, but the rest of the data seemed good and in line with what I saw a week ago.  Then hit a few with marked balls and again spin became measured and no longer Italic and dropped from 7000 to 5000s, again I believe 5000 is way more accurate off my mat and I also use T100s.  Carry instantly went up to what I see on a course.  Wanted to go to the range yesterday but when I got there it was closed.  So decided to play, had people behind me but was able to hit a few drives on one of the holes.  Seemed that carry might be a bit low, but shot shape was bang on.  It was a 490 par 5 with hard slice cross wind, it said carry was 237, but I had 192 to the middle pin.  I doubt it could've rolled for that long considering I usually hit it about 260 carry.  

I will be doing more testing later today or tomorrow.

[Trap Junior]

From my research on this it seems carry distance is way off with driver from online reviews and demonstrations. That's one of the reasons I haven;t bought one yet

Edited February 22, 2022 by Trap Junior

[Exactice808]

reporting in,  Almost done with my new sim buildout so was putting in some test with the Mevo+ updates.

 

Starting with the E6 App. gamer ball with metallic stickers 

 

distances are low/off...  The recent update really dialed the distance back.

 

02/19/2022 - PW (These were the upper range in distances tracked)

 

114y carry,  115y Total,  96mph ball speed , 10,404rpms of spin 26* LA

 

Verdict - Shorter carry, lower ball speed, higher spin,  same Launch

 

 

Trajectory Optimizer - Numbers Jive but surely 10y shorter that I get on course.

 

 

 

02/22/2022 - PW

 

Averages

111y total, 115 carry, 95mph ball speed,  10,042rpms,  25* LA 

 

Verdict - Shorter carry, lower ball speed, higher spin,  same Launch

 

Trajectory Optimizer - (Again matching, up but I am again 10y short at least from real course conditions.

 

 

 

(02/02/2022) PRE Distance Patch Fix E6  (less shot #8 due to spin)

 

129y Total, 125y Carry,   96mph, 8718rpms 26* LA,   

 

Trajectory Optimizer -

 

Distances DONT match at all,  but ball data seems consistent, other than Spin that varied 2000rpms from patch to patch.


I hit my PW about 125carry on course, but The Trajectory Optimizer based on the 95-96mph ballspeed says I should only carry about 115y.  Ouch my Ego LOL..

 

 

Continued.....

 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Exactice808

[Exactice808]

02/17/2022 -FS Golf App - Gamer with Metallic Dot.

 

 

Significant Drop in Ball speed averages,  Spin low as well,  Launch Angle correct at 26*

 

 

Compared to 

02/04/2022 - FS Golf App,  Gamer etc.

 

 

Almost 9mph loss in ball speed, almost 10 yards difference in distance,  Same launch angle.

 

 

 

 

Either I got super weak sauce in the last month. Or the updates keep changing something.... ugh!!!....

 

 

[Exactice808]

Last part of Good news... Putting....

 

I did get to try putting,  and I figured out the sweet spot.

 

For FS Golf the Angle Range is 16*-12* I had it at 15* for a bit and noticed something when my kids were using it. It did NOT pick up a lot of shots.  my kids were skulling balls.  Same with putts it just was not picking it up.

 

For E6 its 12* normally,  and I forgot, this was struggling to pick up shots as well, (Unknowingly/ignorantly) having it at too much tilt. Even though it said it was find for the tilt angle.

 

once I got the tilt down to 12* everything starting picking up WAY better, putts and my kids shots.

 

SO...while the FS Golf App says 16*ish degrees..... putting it at 12* to pick up the putts more accurately really REALLY helped.

 

 

[Trap Junior]

1 hour ago, Exactice808 said:

reporting in,  Almost done with my new sim buildout so was putting in some test with the Mevo+ updates.

 

Starting with the E6 App. gamer ball with metallic stickers 

 

distances are low/off...  The recent update really dialed the distance back.

 

02/19/2022 - PW (These were the upper range in distances tracked)

 

114y carry,  115y Total,  96mph ball speed , 10,404rpms of spin 26* LA

 

Verdict - Shorter carry, lower ball speed, higher spin,  same Launch

 

 

Trajectory Optimizer - Numbers Jive but surely 10y shorter that I get on course.

 

 

 

02/22/2022 - PW

 

Averages

111y total, 115 carry, 95mph ball speed,  10,042rpms,  25* LA 

 

Verdict - Shorter carry, lower ball speed, higher spin,  same Launch

 

Trajectory Optimizer - (Again matching, up but I am again 10y short at least from real course conditions.

 

 

 

(02/02/2022) PRE Distance Patch Fix E6  (less shot #8 due to spin)

 

129y Total, 125y Carry,   96mph, 8718rpms 26* LA,   

 

Trajectory Optimizer -

 

Distances DONT match at all,  but ball data seems consistent, other than Spin that varied 2000rpms from patch to patch.


I hit my PW about 125carry on course, but The Trajectory Optimizer based on the 95-96mph ballspeed says I should only carry about 115y.  Ouch my Ego LOL..

 

 

Continued.....

 

 

 

 

How are your total distances lower than carry distances LOL!

[Exactice808]

18 minutes ago, Trap Junior said:

How are your total distances lower than carry distances LOL!

For wedges specifically the spin, 

 

Driver and Irons are better 

E6 Driver (Top 5) 

Averages

243y total,  235y carry, 149mph Ball speed, 2959rpms spin, 14* Launch,




 

 

FS App -

17.4* Launch angle.

 

 

Pretty close,  not the best, but not the worst.

 

Optimizer - About the same 

 

This was switching back and forth between apps to see the difference.

 

I would say

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Exactice808

[goudok]

1 hour ago, Exactice808 said:

02/17/2022 -FS Golf App - Gamer with Metallic Dot.

 

 

Significant Drop in Ball speed averages,  Spin low as well,  Launch Angle correct at 26*

 

 

Compared to 

02/04/2022 - FS Golf App,  Gamer etc.

 

 

Almost 9mph loss in ball speed, almost 10 yards difference in distance,  Same launch angle.

 

 

 

 

Either I got super weak sauce in the last month. Or the updates keep changing something.... ugh!!!....

 

 

Losing that much in ball speed day over day actually isn't uncommon.  I know with a wedge might be high, but depending on how your body feels on any given day could be a huge difference in ball/club speed.  My personal swing I've seen as much as 10 mph club speed with a driver day to day differences on a quad.  I wouldn't really worry about it.  I am taking my mevo+ onto a course this friday, will tee off last possible tee time and hit a ton of shots on a par that is 198 from back tees to 130 front tees and see what's up.

[Exactice808]

1 hour ago, goudok said:

Losing that much in ball speed day over day actually isn't uncommon.  I know with a wedge might be high, but depending on how your body feels on any given day could be a huge difference in ball/club speed.  My personal swing I've seen as much as 10 mph club speed with a driver day to day differences on a quad.  I wouldn't really worry about it.  I am taking my mevo+ onto a course this friday, will tee off last possible tee time and hit a ton of shots on a par that is 198 from back tees to 130 front tees and see what's up.

This is not all the data, but since the 1.10.2 fix, I noticed a significant drop.

 

As a quick edifier.  I played golf yesterday. But I also went on the the sim before the round to warm up.  Here is my 8iron  which on the course I hit about 150-155y (when im hitting well)

Averages

150y total, 147carry, 108mph ballspeed,  6,792rpms 20* Launch, slightly varying to the optimizer? 

 

 

 

Its like everything got changed in the values,  The Driver which NEVER matched is now matching up better.

*edit*my fault

The wedges and irons that matched really well,  are not matching up at all. And the distances are kinda all over the place.  

 

Comparing it to this post that was pre patch accurate?

 

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Exactice808

[goudok]

14 minutes ago, Exactice808 said:

This is not all the data, but since the 1.10.2 fix, I noticed a significant drop.

 

As a quick edifier.  I played golf yesterday. But I also went on the the sim before the round to warm up.  Here is my 8iron  which on the course I hit about 150-155y (when im hitting well)

Averages

150y total, 147carry, 108mph ballspeed,  6,792rpms 20* Launch, slightly varying to the optimizer? 

 

 

 

Its like everything got changed in the values,  The Driver which NEVER matched is now matching up better.

 

The wedges and irons that matched really well,  are not matching up at all. And the distances are kinda all over the place.  

 

Comparing it to this post that was pre patch accurate?

 

 

I honestly don't see anything out of the ordinary here.  You say your 8 is 150, is that carry total? how do you know it's carry do you measure do you take any wind or simple adrenaline into equation.  My on course is always more than in any simulator.  Why do you think your on course is much worse than on range, you rhythm gets off you start being quicker at times it helps it times it hurts.  I have no hit a single driver on my net, I did see it a bit low on the course the 3 times that I've tried it but irons seem accurate.  Again this is my setup I just measured and I have about 18 feet of flight so that might help.  But my 7i on course is my 176 club (carry) here at home it is going about 172, which I am not concerned about being a few yards shorter.

Also I am not defending the Mevo+ by any means it is far from perfect.  I've already had various issues with it, but just saying being 145 on a sim indoors and 150 your claimed yardage is not an issue.

Edited February 22, 2022 by goudok

[Alan Pllu]

From the testing I have done with my unit since getting it a couple of weeks ago and the latest updates over the last week or so I am finding the unit to be pretty much spot on with everything from driver to full wedges. 
 

the only thing I have found a little discrepancy in is partial wedges seem to be going a little far for what I usually hit but that could be lack of practice on my side, I need to do more testing with these. 
 

Major benefit for me is I can now get reliable data from driver indoors as every shot I hit was showing what I felt from the hit. Spin was believable and ball speed and launch were what I would expect and reflected my expectations of the strikes I made. Carry distance is where I would expect from driver down to full wedges as well. 
 

early verdict is it seems to be as accurate as my X2 with irons and wedges but it actually picks up and gives accurate data on driver 3w and 2i. 

 

[Alan Pllu]

Should add I am using it at 12 degree tilt for everything. Fs golf and E6 

[Exactice808]

38 minutes ago, goudok said:

I honestly don't see anything out of the ordinary here.  You say your 8 is 150, is that carry total? how do you know it's carry do you measure do you take any wind or simple adrenaline into equation.  My on course is always more than in any simulator.  Why do you think your on course is much worse than on range, you rhythm gets off you start being quicker at times it helps it times it hurts.  I have no hit a single driver on my net, I did see it a bit low on the course the 3 times that I've tried it but irons seem accurate.  Again this is my setup I just measured and I have about 18 feet of flight so that might help.  But my 7i on course is my 176 club (carry) here at home it is going about 172, which I am not concerned about being a few yards shorter.

Also I am not defending the Mevo+ by any means it is far from perfect.  I've already had various issues with it, but just saying being 145 on a sim indoors and 150 your claimed yardage is not an issue.

Hey Goudok,  I am sorry I must be on info overload.  So just blabbing LOL

 

The 8iron distances were actually ok.

The Wedge distances were really off

and the Driver distances are getting closer to legit.

 

This is based on the Most recent update app updates for both E6 & FS Golf

 

 

PRE- updates it was; 

 

Wedge & Iron distances spot on no issues.

Driver was short 10-15yards.

 

My implication is this update some how addressed the driver distances better, but some how affected the wedge distances.  The irons seem the steadiest and the least movement in data/parameters.

 

As for on course, yups I have an app that I mark distances as well as using a laser. I have my distance pretty decently noted when I am striking it well.

 

sure LOTS of variables to affect distance, but assuming I do have a "Stock shot" which I am fairly confident about.  Again, the wedges seem to have taken a hit on distance while everything else above, seem to dial in better than the prior updates. 

 

 

*edit* Sorry if it wasnt known. I have 7ft mevo+ to ball.  and 8ft all to net. 15ft total, so short indoor at best. 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Exactice808

[goudok]

9 minutes ago, Exactice808 said:

Hey Goudok,  I am sorry I must be on info overload.  So just blabbing LOL

 

The 8iron distances were actually ok.

The Wedge distances were really off

and the Driver distances are getting closer to legit.

 

This is based on the Most recent update app updates for both E6 & FS Golf

 

 

PRE- updates it was; 

 

Wedge & Iron distances spot on no issues.

Driver was short 10-15yards.

 

My implication is this update some how addressed the driver distances better, but some how affected the wedge distances.  The irons seem the steadiest and the least movement in data/parameters.

 

As for on course, yups I have an app that I mark distances as well as using a laser. I have my distance pretty decently noted when I am striking it well.

 

sure LOTS of variables to affect distance, but assuming I do have a "Stock shot" which I am fairly confident about.  Again, the wedges seem to have taken a hit on distance while everything else above, seem to dial in better than the prior updates. 

 

 

*edit* Sorry if it wasnt known. I have 7ft mevo+ to ball.  and 8ft all to net. 15ft total, so short indoor at best. 

oh ok, on any day that an 8iron is 145 if clubs are lofted accurately your pw should be about 20-25 yards less so 120-125ish, so 110 does seem low, but that would only hold true if the setup hasnt changed and it is the same day.  Not sure if those were the same day.  My initial setup (last week before I even got my own unit) I was getting 164 with my 7i and that was low for me, during the same session I was hitting my pw 127 which was "accurate" for that specific session.  After I played around with the setup and came back a few hours later I was hitting my 7 172ish which is in line with my on course distance.  

[Dan13]

29 minutes ago, Exactice808 said:

Hey Goudok,  I am sorry I must be on info overload.  So just blabbing LOL

 

The 8iron distances were actually ok.

The Wedge distances were really off

and the Driver distances are getting closer to legit.

 

This is based on the Most recent update app updates for both E6 & FS Golf

 

 

PRE- updates it was; 

 

Wedge & Iron distances spot on no issues.

Driver was short 10-15yards.

 

My implication is this update some how addressed the driver distances better, but some how affected the wedge distances.  The irons seem the steadiest and the least movement in data/parameters.

 

As for on course, yups I have an app that I mark distances as well as using a laser. I have my distance pretty decently noted when I am striking it well.

 

sure LOTS of variables to affect distance, but assuming I do have a "Stock shot" which I am fairly confident about.  Again, the wedges seem to have taken a hit on distance while everything else above, seem to dial in better than the prior updates. 

 

 

*edit* Sorry if it wasnt known. I have 7ft mevo+ to ball.  and 8ft all to net. 15ft total, so short indoor at best. 

Exactice808 - you are making my brain hurt trying to figure out what is going on - lol. The fact that the optimizer is giving you 115ish for your PW at those speeds/spins/V launches seems strange -  although I am getting 125-130 carry from my PW on FS golf with 100mph ball speed / 8500 rpms spin / 25 degrees of launch. That matches up with my expected on course carry numbers. 

[Exactice808]

38 minutes ago, goudok said:

oh ok, on any day that an 8iron is 145 if clubs are lofted accurately your pw should be about 20-25 yards less so 120-125ish, so 110 does seem low, but that would only hold true if the setup hasnt changed and it is the same day.  Not sure if those were the same day.  My initial setup (last week before I even got my own unit) I was getting 164 with my 7i and that was low for me, during the same session I was hitting my pw 127 which was "accurate" for that specific session.  After I played around with the setup and came back a few hours later I was hitting my 7 172ish which is in line with my on course distance.  

Hey goudok,  (PS thanks for having this conversation btw)

 

well my ego is bruised LOL, but if I had a 150y Par3 flag in the middle, I would grab my 8 iron and I would confidently say I am on the green within 5-10y of the pin confidently.

(Yesterday it happened,  slight down hill but into the wind so it was a wash on total distance)  I had a 150y shot to a green,  smoked it 160y over the green into a trap.  Granted I hit it well, but if the Mevo is saying I hit it 144y carry average, there is no way I smoking it an additional 20y further.  meaning yes I carry my 8iron - 150y pretty regularly +/-5 yards green reaction, so I feel the Mevo+ is shorting me right now (I am assuming its the patch as again pre patch it was NOT shorting me at all)

 

I would say normal average about 110-115mph ball speeds for my 8iron so the averages were low per above, indicating less than optimal strikes, or capturing reduced ball speeds or something.

 

For the PW, I would say the exact same thing if a flag was 125-130y I would grab the PW.  

 

But the recent data FS Golf and E6 says I cant even get near 120y carry period with a normal swing, the 124y carry on the above listed data was me swing pretty darn hard.

So my PW is seemingly short on the current update. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Exactice808

[goudok]

43 minutes ago, Exactice808 said:

Hey goudok,  (PS thanks for having this conversation btw)

 

well my ego is bruised LOL, but if I had a 150y Par3 flag in the middle, I would grab my 8 iron and I would confidently say I am on the green within 5-10y of the pin confidently.

(Yesterday it happened,  slight down hill but into the wind so it was a wash on total distance)  I had a 150y shot to a green,  smoked it 160y over the green into a trap.  Granted I hit it well, but if the Mevo is saying I hit it 144y carry average, there is no way I smoking it an additional 20y further.  meaning yes I carry my 8iron - 150y pretty regularly +/-5 yards green reaction, so I feel the Mevo+ is shorting me right now (I am assuming its the patch as again pre patch it was NOT shorting me at all)

 

I would say normal average about 110-115mph ball speeds for my 8iron so the averages were low per above, indicating less than optimal strikes, or capturing reduced ball speeds or something.

 

For the PW, I would say the exact same thing if a flag was 125-130y I would grab the PW.  

 

But the recent data FS Golf and E6 says I cant even get near 120y carry period with a normal swing, the 124y carry on the above listed data was me swing pretty darn hard.

So my PW is seemingly short on the current update. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is slight down hill? do you have a slope range finder.  What is into wind, how much wind?  That's what makes playing in the wind tough, it swirls what is into wind on a back swing could flip 180 degrees and be down wind for 3 seconds.  Also you say you hit 8i from 150 to 15-30 feet, so you'd be on tour with those distances to the hole.  What ball are you using, was the club clean, what clubs are you playing, again adrenaline on a course, you might have stepped on one and made a clean contact, so many variables.

As I said earlier, if you are getting 145 with an 8, during the same session/same day, PW should be about 120.  You do NOT want it anymore, whole point of golf is hitting yardages.  Now if you are hitting 155 with an 8iron and 105 with your wedge then yes I would agree there is something wonky.   

 

Also, 1 hole does not tell you anything.  There is a hole that is 220 yards I do NOT ever hit more than a 5i.  For specific reasons (not important for this post) and if cleanly hit I get to the middle, and my 5i would never go 220 yards on any launch monitor.

Edited February 23, 2022 by goudok

[Exactice808]

1 hour ago, Dan13 said:

Exactice808 - you are making my brain hurt trying to figure out what is going on - lol. The fact that the optimizer is giving you 115ish for your PW at those speeds/spins/V launches seems strange -  although I am getting 125-130 carry from my PW on FS golf with 100mph ball speed / 8500 rpms spin / 25 degrees of launch. That matches up with my expected on course carry numbers. 

I know, I know I am sorry......

 

It just seems that my ball speed has dropped since the most recent app updates. (not the firmware) 

 

Prior Data I have collected - (I have the written down on a paper not just making stuff up LOL) 

 

Averages 

PW - 102mph ballspeed,  24* Launch angle 9200rpms of spin 

126y carry - what I am use to,

 

 

8iron - 115mph ballspeed 20* Launch,  7900

 

151y carry- Again what I am used to

 

which again is what I see on course.

 

But the ball speeds and some spin variances, are seemingly flagging/spider senses tingle, me. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Exactice808

[goudok]

2 hours ago, Alan Pllu said:

From the testing I have done with my unit since getting it a couple of weeks ago and the latest updates over the last week or so I am finding the unit to be pretty much spot on with everything from driver to full wedges. 
 

the only thing I have found a little discrepancy in is partial wedges seem to be going a little far for what I usually hit but that could be lack of practice on my side, I need to do more testing with these. 
 

Major benefit for me is I can now get reliable data from driver indoors as every shot I hit was showing what I felt from the hit. Spin was believable and ball speed and launch were what I would expect and reflected my expectations of the strikes I made. Carry distance is where I would expect from driver down to full wedges as well. 
 

early verdict is it seems to be as accurate as my X2 with irons and wedges but it actually picks up and gives accurate data on driver 3w and 2i. 

 

I'll try to have a good testing session this week, on course with real balls.  Planning to go out last tee time with nobody behind, will provide an update once complete.

[Exactice808]

4 minutes ago, goudok said:

What is slight down hill? do you have a slope range finder.  What is into wind, how much wind?  That's what makes playing in the wind tough, it swirls what is into wind on a back swing could flip 180 degrees and be down wind for 3 seconds.  Also you say you hit 8i from 150 to 15-30 feet, so you'd be on tour with those distances to the hole.  What ball are you using, was the club clean, what clubs are you playing, again adrenaline on a course, you might have stepped on one and made a clean contact, so many variables.

As I said earlier, if you are getting 145 with an 8, during the same session/same day, PW should be about 120.  You do NOT want it anymore, whole point of golf is hitting yardages.  Now if you are hitting 155 with an 8iron and 105 with your wedge then yes I would agree there is something wonky.   

 

Also, 1 hole does not tell you anything.  There is a hole that is 220 yards I do NOT ever hit more than a 5i.  For specific reasons (not important for this post) and if cleanly hit I get to the middle, and my 5i would never go 220 yards on any launch monitor.

I get the variance, but I think you are missing my point.

 

SINCE the update, the distances are NOT jiving.  Are you trying to say that now its me that suddenly the distance have dropped off on the Mevo+ Reading? Or is it plausible after the updates to the app (as we saw the massive distances with the E6 app, last week pre 1.10.2 update)

 

any given day 8iron is 150y interpret that how you want.  

any given day PW 125-130y interpret that how you want.

 

Current, Im barely cracking 145y with the 8iron, while 5y variance is not earth shattering, It caught my eye.

 

Im barely cracking 115y with a PW,  which is a 10y difference which is quite a bit, and has garnered my attention.

 

I gave one example as well an "example" we can go through the whole round,  but my distance on the course have NOT changed.  Thats my point, but the distances the Mevo+ HAS changed.
 

 

Is that hard to believe?  

 

 

 

 

[goudok]

2 minutes ago, Exactice808 said:

I get the variance, but I think you are missing my point.

 

SINCE the update, the distances are NOT jiving.  Are you trying to say that now its me that suddenly the distance have dropped off on the Mevo+ Reading? Or is it plausible after the updates to the app (as we saw the massive distances with the E6 app, last week pre 1.10.2 update)

 

any given day 8iron is 150y interpret that how you want.  

any given day PW 125-130y interpret that how you want.

 

Current, Im barely cracking 145y with the 8iron, while 5y variance is not earth shattering, It caught my eye.

 

Im barely cracking 115y with a PW,  which is a 10y difference which is quite a bit, and has garnered my attention.

 

I gave one example as well an "example" we can go through the whole round,  but my distance on the course have NOT changed.  Thats my point, but the distances the Mevo+ HAS changed.
 

 

Is that hard to believe?  

 

 

 

 

Take it on a course and see what your distances are then you can truly say what's the issue.

 

[Paybax]

6 hours ago, Exactice808 said:

Last part of Good news... Putting....

 

I did get to try putting,  and I figured out the sweet spot.

 

For FS Golf the Angle Range is 16*-12* I had it at 15* for a bit and noticed something when my kids were using it. It did NOT pick up a lot of shots.  my kids were skulling balls.  Same with putts it just was not picking it up.

 

For E6 its 12* normally,  and I forgot, this was struggling to pick up shots as well, (Unknowingly/ignorantly) having it at too much tilt. Even though it said it was find for the tilt angle.

 

once I got the tilt down to 12* everything starting picking up WAY better, putts and my kids shots.

 

SO...while the FS Golf App says 16*ish degrees..... putting it at 12* to pick up the putts more accurately really REALLY helped.

 

 

So you are doing all of this testing but fail to set the Mevo to the recommend tilt of 12 degrees for ALL sim software, including FS Golf. Fix that first, then complain. Wow. 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Paybax

[Dan13]

1 hour ago, Exactice808 said:

I know, I know I am sorry......

 

It just seems that my ball speed has dropped since the most recent app updates. (not the firmware) 

 

Prior Data I have collected - (I have the written down on a paper not just making stuff up LOL) 

 

Averages 

PW - 102mph ballspeed,  24* Launch angle 9200rpms of spin 

126y carry - what I am use to,

 

 

8iron - 115mph ballspeed 20* Launch,  7900

 

151y carry- Again what I am used to

 

which again is what I see on course.

 

But the ball speeds and some spin variances, are seemingly flagging/spider senses tingle, me. 

 

 

 

 

 

 If you are willing to put a stake in the ground and say that the Flightscope Trajectory Optimizer is accurate then it would seem E6 was inflating your distances with PW prior. Your ball speed in the PW example above is 102 vs 95ish in the recent examples.  As you know, the ball speeds from radar units are pretty solid. I would think that the ball speed is still being read accurately. A ball speed of 95 mph with a spin of 9000 rpms at a reasonable launch should never give you 125 carry in calm/ normal conditions. Clearly you can achieve ball speeds of over 100mph with PW so I tend to think that is generally what you produce on the course resulting in your expected distance of 125-130. 

 

As far as the 8 iron, I have come to use 110 mph ball speed as a benchmark to seeing carry distances at 150 or above yards with my "indoor" spin of low 6000s.  Anything short of that and I know I'll be in the 140's carry wise on FS Golf. I don't use E6 to practice only FS Golf. Through all of the recent updates I really have not noticed and changes to my carry distances / ball speeds with wedges through 7 iron - which are generally the clubs I practice with in my garage. Actually impressive you can get 7900 spin with an 8 iron indoors. You must have a good mat.

[Exactice808]

2 hours ago, goudok said:

Take it on a course and see what your distances are then you can truly say what's the issue.

 

I would love to but its not really that convenient to do so.  While you stated you have an opportunity, I envy that fact.  I normally dont have a chance to setup and not be in the middle of play.  If an opportunity ever arises I surely would. 

[bacchus00]

Anyone regretting buying the pro package? I've seen mixed reviews, but haven't seen anyone actually regretting buying it. Seems like there is enough positives and confidence that they will get it good enough at some point.

 

[Exactice808]

55 minutes ago, Paybax said:

So you are doing all of this testing but fail to set the Mevo to the recommend tilt of 12 degrees for ALL sim software, including FS Golf. Fix that first, then complain. Wow. 

Complain?  I am in NO way complaining, I am providing feedback as well as my experience (Also if I made mistakes, other can learn from mistakes).  As for 12* from when I first bought this unit and the included preset angles (little red angle thinga majigy). 12* was NOT the default. 16* was the original default for FS golf and E6 stated 12* which I admitted openly that, that was my error.  Not sure if you are trying to be combative or trolling, but yes that was my error and I am stating that 12* was more accurate ESPECIALLY for lower flight and putts for ME, but that MIGHT not be for everyone but this is what I found. which I admit when I had it at 16* it was NOT working till I changed it.  

 

As for testing, maybe this is a Factor, that is why I am providing the feedback.  I am trying to recall if the numbers that I have been having current issues with was at 16* or was at 12*. @goudokmaybe that might be an issue as well as we know this thing is sensitive (going back to check and test it btw)

 

On that note, is it True that 12* is the recommended for FS golf specifically? I know it was for E6 but FS golf I had that it was 16* when I first bought this thing. when I do the alignment test its Green from 12*-16* meaning its a range. NOT the catch all.  As we know these systems have sweet spots as 8ft mevo to ball is not perfect for everyone.  But I was not aware that 12* was now the default for FS Golf I always thought it was 16*.  Thanks for the update if that is the case.

 

Anyways again, YES it was my error, so no not complaining at all just providing feedback? Not sure why the hostilities? 

 

 

 

[Exactice808]

1 hour ago, Dan13 said:

 If you are willing to put a stake in the ground and say that the Flightscope Trajectory Optimizer is accurate then it would seem E6 was inflating your distances with PW prior. Your ball speed in the PW example above is 102 vs 95ish in the recent examples.  As you know, the ball speeds from radar units are pretty solid. I would think that the ball speed is still being read accurately. A ball speed of 95 mph with a spin of 9000 rpms at a reasonable launch should never give you 125 carry in calm/ normal conditions. Clearly you can achieve ball speeds of over 100mph with PW so I tend to think that is generally what you produce on the course resulting in your expected distance of 125-130. 

 

As far as the 8 iron, I have come to use 110 mph ball speed as a benchmark to seeing carry distances at 150 or above yards with my "indoor" spin of low 6000s.  Anything short of that and I know I'll be in the 140's carry wise on FS Golf. I don't use E6 to practice only FS Golf. Through all of the recent updates I really have not noticed and changes to my carry distances / ball speeds with wedges through 7 iron - which are generally the clubs I practice with in my garage. Actually impressive you can get 7900 spin with an 8 iron indoors. You must have a good mat.

I surely dont disagree at all, and I cant at all rule out what @goudok stated that maybe I am just swinging slower. It was just an immediate notice of difference in distance.  Yet on the course I am using the same clubs and not having to club up one for the lack of ball speed,  Surely It could be adrenaline again cant rule it out. But it was just something I noticed Since the update.

 

As for the data, Exactly thats why it was surprised me, and yes I 100% feel confident that the ball speeds are measured legitimately.  But the data being spit out has "seemingly" changed. 

 

 

On that side note yes it weird that 95ish vs 102ish quite a bit of ball speed.  I wonder if the balls are deteriorating just due to usage.  going to fire it up and break open some new balls.

 

Just ruling stuff out at this point.

 

Again here to share my mistakes and my findings.  Not here to bash or condemn anything or anyone..... man.....  I guess its me, but everyone seems sensitive lately.... LOL! 

[Paybax]

1 hour ago, Exactice808 said:

Complain?  I am in NO way complaining, I am providing feedback as well as my experience (Also if I made mistakes, other can learn from mistakes).  As for 12* from when I first bought this unit and the included preset angles (little red angle thinga majigy). 12* was NOT the default. 16* was the original default for FS golf and E6 stated 12* which I admitted openly that, that was my error.  Not sure if you are trying to be combative or trolling, but yes that was my error and I am stating that 12* was more accurate ESPECIALLY for lower flight and putts for ME, but that MIGHT not be for everyone but this is what I found. which I admit when I had it at 16* it was NOT working till I changed it.  

 

As for testing, maybe this is a Factor, that is why I am providing the feedback.  I am trying to recall if the numbers that I have been having current issues with was at 16* or was at 12*. @goudokmaybe that might be an issue as well as we know this thing is sensitive (going back to check and test it btw)

 

On that note, is it True that 12* is the recommended for FS golf specifically? I know it was for E6 but FS golf I had that it was 16* when I first bought this thing. when I do the alignment test its Green from 12*-16* meaning its a range. NOT the catch all.  As we know these systems have sweet spots as 8ft mevo to ball is not perfect for everyone.  But I was not aware that 12* was now the default for FS Golf I always thought it was 16*.  Thanks for the update if that is the case.

 

Anyways again, YES it was my error, so no not complaining at all just providing feedback? Not sure why the hostilities? 

 

 

 

It’s just you are going through all this testing and posting all of this data blaming the unit not being accurate, yet you don’t have it setup as per FS recommendation. They changed the tilt to 12 with the latest firmware update. It also says this right in the FS Golf app. 

[Sons_of_Pitches]

16 hours ago, knickerbocker said:

 

There is an adjustable target in the AG range.  I used it last night!   Look for flag on the left hand side of the screen. 

Thanks for the info.  Yep, I have played with that and technically it’s what I was asking for, but I would like to see it implemented the way Foresight does it where the ball to green is tracked better in my opinion.