Consequences for not fixing ball marks?

[Abh159]

16 minutes ago, dfeldss said:

 

We are talking about the same thing. I'm just offering a different perspective. 

 

If people know it's 73 year old Carl, who they play in the Blitz with every saturday, on hole 15, they're probably gonna throw him a bone and take care of their ball marks and then some. 

 

As it stands, it's the maintenance crew who are nameless and faceless to most, so most don't have any issue leaving their ball marks for them to clean up.

 

 

Not me. Screw Carl. I hate that guy. I hope he spends all night repairing my ball marks and raking my bunkers.

 

 

[elsie451]

Not really a consequence, but I do think courses should put signs in their golf carts or scorecards with basic rules like everyone is expected to play ready golf, fill their divots, rake bunkers, fix ball marks, etc. Oh, and yell fore when their shot is going way off line.

[Mudguard]

I do think some courses bring it on themselves. One I play at regularly has one short par three with hump in the middle. It's probably the easiest green to hit in regulation as it's really a wedge from an elevated tee. As a result it is just peppered with pitch marks. 

As for getting people to repair them, well I guess you need one person in a group to call out others who aren't. Unless your course can afford staff to sit out on holes, or members. 

[North Butte]

29 minutes ago, elsie451 said:

Not really a consequence, but I do think courses should put signs in their golf carts or scorecards with basic rules like everyone is expected to play ready golf, fill their divots, rake bunkers, fix ball marks, etc. Oh, and yell fore when their shot is going way off line.

OTHER THINGS TO BE POSTED ON CARTS

 

Remember to floss your teeth every night, obey the posted speed limit on the Interstate and do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. 

 

And call your mom once in a while, she'd love to hear from you.

[Rob G 89]

Surprisingly at a low end municipal course they gave divot tools with receipts. This makes senses because most recreational golfers aren’t aware of how to or that they have to fix them.

[polski]

The most pitch marks I have repaired on a single green is about 12. They were fairly deep and obvious to see. Could have repaired more. This was at a private club. The general rule I follow is I like to repair 2 pitch marks, mine and another one.  Perhaps clubs could give away free pitch mark repair tools as a reminder to golfers.

[Soloman1]

It doesn’t matter, most won’t use them. And if they do, half will break the roots by twisting the pitch mark or pushing up the pitch mark.

 

You can’t win.

 

As the population increases the number of stupid people increases. If you don’t believe it, go for drive.

 

This whole thing of somehow making people into better humans is a waste of energy. You can’t fix stupid.

[Mr. Bean]

In the caddiemaster's office should be a piece of turf and all players signing up for the round need to show that they have a tool and how they repair a pitch-mark. Caddiemaster teaches the ones who do not know how.

[caniac6]

We are staying on one of the Sea Pines courses at Hilton Head. We went for a walk after dinner, and I walked up on a green that had a lot of unrepaired ball marks. I’ve also sat on our balcony and seen guys walk out of bunkers, and never even looked for a rake.

[betarhoalphadelta]

5 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

In the caddiemaster's office should be a piece of turf and all players signing up for the round need to show that they have a tool and how they repair a pitch-mark. Caddiemaster teaches the ones who do not know how.

 

I haven't been on a course with caddies, or a caddiemaster, in 30 years...

 

...and the only reason riffraff like me was allowed on the course was because I was a caddie. 

Edited May 11, 2023 by betarhoalphadelta

[North Butte]

2 minutes ago, betarhoalphadelta said:

 

I haven't been on a course with caddies, or a caddiemaster, in 30 years...

 

...and the only reason riffraff like me was allowed on the course was because I was a caddie. 

Comments like Mr. Bean's always remind me of what a wide, wide world Golf is. If I were not active in online golf discussions, I'd never in a million years think there were still caddies and "caddiemasters" anywhere except a few resorts and a handful of super high-$$$ private clubs. 

 

The golf I see and experience everyday is mostly tubby middle-aged guys riding around in golf carts with the occasional oddball walker like myself pushing a Speed Cart. When I hear golfers mention "caddies" they are invariably talking about TV golf, not the golf they actually play. 

 

So what percentage of rounds played this week in USA do we think will involve a caddie? I'm guessing something less than 1%, maybe? Probably closer to 1-in-1000.

[IndyArcher]

1 hour ago, North Butte said:

Comments like Mr. Bean's always remind me of what a wide, wide world Golf is. If I were not active in online golf discussions, I'd never in a million years think there were still caddies and "caddiemasters" anywhere except a few resorts and a handful of super high-$$$ private clubs. 

 

The golf I see and experience everyday is mostly tubby middle-aged guys riding around in golf carts with the occasional oddball walker like myself pushing a Speed Cart. When I hear golfers mention "caddies" they are invariably talking about TV golf, not the golf they actually play. 

 

So what percentage of rounds played this week in USA do we think will involve a caddie? I'm guessing something less than 1%, maybe? Probably closer to 1-in-1000.

 

Okay, I've been around golf for more than 2 decades now. I've watched golf. I've played golf (though obviously not much at elite private clubs or outside the contiguous USA. Still, I'm clueless here. Can someone explain to me what a 'caddiemaster' is? By name it sounds like a term a woke generation would love to tackle.

 

[Mr. Bean]

1 minute ago, IndyArcher said:

 

Okay, I've been around golf for more than 2 decades now. I've watched golf. I've played golf (though obviously not much at elite private clubs or outside the contiguous USA. Still, I'm clueless here. Can someone explain to me what a 'caddiemaster' is? By name it sounds like a term a woke generation would love to tackle.

 

 

Around here we use that title to describe the person to whom you sign up for the round, i.e. office personnel. I am quite sure there is an office on every golf course also on your side of the pond.

 

Maybe this clears things up a bit.

 

P.S. Originally a caddiemaster was the supervisor of caddies, a boss.

[North Butte]

32 minutes ago, IndyArcher said:

 

Okay, I've been around golf for more than 2 decades now. I've watched golf. I've played golf (though obviously not much at elite private clubs or outside the contiguous USA. Still, I'm clueless here. Can someone explain to me what a 'caddiemaster' is? By name it sounds like a term a woke generation would love to tackle.

 

It's the character Bryan Doyle-Murray played in Caddyshack.

[betarhoalphadelta]

9 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

P.S. Originally a caddiemaster was the supervisor of caddies, a boss.

 

Yep. My old boss roughly 31 years ago lol...

 

On this side of the pond the term (to every sign I've seen) has died. 

[Mr. Bean]

3 minutes ago, betarhoalphadelta said:

 

Yep. My old boss roughly 31 years ago lol...

 

On this side of the pond the term (to every sign I've seen) has died. 

 

What do you call the person in the office you pay for the round?

[ChipStrokes]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

What do you call the person in the office you pay for the round?

the guy behind the desk. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[North Butte]

1 hour ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

What do you call the person in the office you pay for the round?

Usually it's Jen but if she's not there it's Billy instead. Nice folks.

[sui generis]

11 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

What do you call the person in the office you pay for the round?

 

Caroline, but she just quit and moved to St Augustine with her boyfriend after his mill was closed down. It's feared she will be replaced by some spotty youth.

[betarhoalphadelta]

13 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

What do you call the person in the office you pay for the round?

 

The cashiermaster. Duh. 

[Soloman1]

If you’re looking for more excitement on the golf course, start lecturing people about their behavior.

 

Order them to line up at attention and instruct them about ball mark repairing, raking bunkers, repairing divots, etc.

 

It’s a great way to make new friends.

[kmay__]

Fixed probably 30 or so last night at league. Didn't make many myself I played like crap haha 

[ChipStrokes]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

If you’re looking for more excitement on the golf course, start lecturing people about their behavior.

 

Order them to line up at attention and instruct them about ball mark repairing, raking bunkers, repairing divots, etc.

 

It’s a great way to make new friends.

“the first thing to keep in mind is that we’re all here to have a good time and enjoy ourselves. 

 

with that out of the way, i’ll hand it over to john the caddiemaster for his brief 35 minute presentation on fixing ball marks and proper bunker raking.

 

have some fun out there, everyone!”

[Abh159]

25 minutes ago, ChipStrokes said:

“the first thing to keep in mind is that we’re all here to have a good time and enjoy ourselves. 

 

with that out of the way, i’ll hand it over to john the caddiemaster for his brief 35 minute presentation on fixing ball marks and proper bunker raking.

 

have some fun out there, everyone!”

 

You forgot about the awkward, 10 minute "ice breaker exercise" at the beginning where everyone is required to state a fun fact about themselves

[McMunch]

Grampa got me started in golf and told me to always fix mine and 2 others. Nowadays I'll fix mine and as many more as time allows.

 

I will say that the suggestion to have golfers show the starter or pro or other a fixing tool is a good idea. Basically "here is what you need, this is what it's for and this is how you use it."

[McMunch]

Forgot to mention that as a consequence- a severed head on a pike as a warning to other golfers may be the answer.

[ChipStrokes]

46 minutes ago, Abh159 said:

 

You forgot about the awkward, 10 minute "ice breaker exercise" at the beginning where everyone is required to state a fun fact about themselves

you just sent me on a rocket ship all the way back to the first night in my freshman dorm in college. 

 

our ra had everyone meet in the common room for “orientation”

 

tell us your name, where you’re from, and one fun thing you did this summer!

[PNWGuy]

The only sure fire way to solve the problem is to let the greens get rock hard so you can't make a pitch mark. The cure is worse than the disease.

[Is Golf Fun or Work]

2 hours ago, McMunch said:

Forgot to mention that as a consequence- a severed head on a pike as a warning to other golfers may be the answer.

I was thinking, one finger at a time LOL

[Mr. Bean]

6 hours ago, sui generis said:

 

Caroline, but she just quit and moved to St Augustine with her boyfriend after his mill was closed down. It's feared she will be replaced by some spotty youth.

 

Hilarious, just like the other two responses.

 

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