OG SIM Ti 3 wood versus ALL

[cyr67]

Has there been anything better in recent times? Ever? Currently playing this club, and after a couple of years with it in the bag, it has attained "best ever" status. Off the tee, fairway, overall distance, feel...it is the best I have played. 

Just wondering what your thoughts are or if there is anything more recent that trumps it. If you replaced your SIM Ti and are happy, why and what replaced it? Yes, I know, why would I even ask if it's so good? Proper Golfwrx'rs know the answer! 

[cyr67]

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Edited April 27 by cyr67

[Kale_m]

I like the shape of the last few years stealth’s 

 

stealth plus and stealth plus 2 , both look better then the sim to my eye, even the sim2 much better shape 

[phizzy30]

Still have mine and I put it in the dare I say..........GOAT status.  I test driver and fairways every year.  Nothing's been able to kick it outta the bag so far although I will say that the Qi10 tour is pretty damn close performance wise for me.   

[1163]

I mistakenly got rid of my OG Sim Ti last summer and tried everything on the market to replace it to no avail. Fortunately, i found a pristine one a couple of months ago and all is right in the world again. IMHO, it is the best fairway wood ever and it is amazing to still see it in so many Pro’s bags

[Avidswampthing66]

2 hours ago, cyr67 said:

Has there been anything better in recent times? Ever? Currently playing this club, and after a couple of years with it in the bag, it has attained "best ever" status. Off the tee, fairway, overall distance, feel...it is the best I have played. 

Just wondering what your thoughts are or if there is anything more recent that trumps it. If you replaced your SIM Ti and are happy, why and what replaced it? Yes, I know, why would I even ask if it's so good? Proper Golfwrx'rs know the answer! 

Raises hands but still, I think Sim 2 Ti was better for my game do to the extra spin and slightly smaller headshape.  Same face.  Loads of distance.

[cyr67]

I've heard good things about the Cobra LTDX 3 wood. Anyone have experience with that versus the SIM Ti? 

[Frank Newport]

13 hours ago, 1163 said:

I mistakenly got rid of my OG Sim Ti last summer and tried everything on the market to replace it to no avail. Fortunately, i found a pristine one a couple of months ago and all is right in the world again. IMHO, it is the best fairway wood ever and it is amazing to still see it in so many Pro’s bags

[poor_putting]

I have a Paradym TD strong 3 wood that for me does not get any better. Can tee it up and hit ball speeds and distances I never thought I’d see from a 3 wood. 
 

can also hit cuts or back off the swing a bit and hit softer shots into greens. To each their own, but if you ever got the itch, give the TD a go. 
 

 

[thlongball]

On 4/28/2024 at 10:48 AM, poor_putting said:

I have a Paradym TD strong 3 wood that for me does not get any better. Can tee it up and hit ball speeds and distances I never thought I’d see from a 3 wood. 
 

can also hit cuts or back off the swing a bit and hit softer shots into greens. To each their own, but if you ever got the itch, give the TD a go. 
 

 

Ditto I just posted something similar in another thread. have played ALL the TM greats….07 Burner TP, RBZ/RBZ2 tour issue, M1,M2 DF and last three years with OG SIM TI Rocket….

 

NOTHING has blown my mind in the fairway wood space like the Paradym Triple D.  Absolute money for me from first shot, can do anything I want with it on shot shape/trajectory and so dam forgiving for a low spin “players,” category fairway.  It cleaned out my stable in less than a month.  

 

Bought it on a whim during Cally preowned flash sale cause I was bored and its been a awesome level up for me.

 

[cyr67]

3 hours ago, thlongball said:

Ditto I just posted something similar in another thread. have played ALL the TM greats….07 Burner TP, RBZ/RBZ2 tour issue, M1,M2 DF and last three years with OG SIM TI Rocket….

 

NOTHING has blown my mind in the fairway wood space like the Paradym Triple D.  Absolute money for me from first shot, can do anything I want with it on shot shape/trajectory and so dam forgiving for a low spin “players,” category fairway.  It cleaned out my stable in less than a month.  

 

Bought it on a whim during Cally preowned flash sale cause I was bored and its been a awesome level up for me.

 

Are you guys talking the OG Paradym TD or the new AI Smoke Paradym TD? 

[thlongball]

OG but hear new smoke version just as good

[getitdaily]

5 hours ago, cyr67 said:

Are you guys talking the OG Paradym TD or the new AI Smoke Paradym TD? 

 

37 minutes ago, thlongball said:

OG but hear new smoke version just as good

I've hit and played a ton of 3ws over the last few years, searching for "the one".

 

"The one" doesn't exist. Some launch too low. Some spin too much. Some are wild. Some are very good. Every 3w will make you desire something additional that leads to more trial and another 3w that meets 1 criteria but misses on another.

 

Paradym triple diamond does all of the criteria the best, for me. It's not perfect. But it's really good.

 

-Fast

-Sits slightly open or square. Sits square at +1 loft (not closed)

-Launches in a great window at 16* for low launch players.

-spin isn't too low or too high

 

The aerojet standard fwy came REALLY close to being perfect. Best dispersion of any 3w I've ever played. But it launched super low at 15 and lifting up closed the face way too much. 

 

I like the paradym tripd so much I bought a backup.

[Mike_C]

9 hours ago, thlongball said:

Ditto I just posted something similar in another thread. have played ALL the TM greats….07 Burner TP, RBZ/RBZ2 tour issue, M1,M2 DF and last three years with OG SIM TI Rocket….

 

NOTHING has blown my mind in the fairway wood space like the Paradym Triple D.  Absolute money for me from first shot, can do anything I want with it on shot shape/trajectory and so dam forgiving for a low spin “players,” category fairway.  It cleaned out my stable in less than a month.  

 

Bought it on a whim during Cally preowned flash sale cause I was bored and its been a awesome level up for me.

 

I had one last year, basically a mini-driver distance wise, a monster.   My only problem was I hooked it too much/often, and couldn't play any sort of cut.  Maybe a different shaft would have worked, but I gave up and went back to my Ping LST.....

[awtryau89]

That Paradym TD sucked for my game. Way too spinny and not even close to same ball speeds as OG Sim Ti. I sold my backup to a friend and he switched from the Cally and still calls to tell me how amazed he is in its performance. If you need spin I could see the TD being good but none of the Cally fairways really can compete with the Ti versions of the TM family. 

[ilikegolf26]

I had Sim Ti. Went back to my M4 after a few weeks. 

[phizzy30]

4 hours ago, awtryau89 said:

That Paradym TD sucked for my game. Way too spinny and not even close to same ball speeds as OG Sim Ti. I sold my backup to a friend and he switched from the Cally and still calls to tell me how amazed he is in its performance. If you need spin I could see the TD being good but none of the Cally fairways really can compete with the Ti versions of the TM family. 

I saw the same when tested the Paradym TD.  I don't need my 3 metal to spin up as I primarily use it off the tee and I already generate tons of spin anyway.  OG SIM ti is really fast off the face keeps spin manageable for me. 

[poor_putting]

4 hours ago, awtryau89 said:

That Paradym TD sucked for my game. Way too spinny and not even close to same ball speeds as OG Sim Ti. I sold my backup to a friend and he switched from the Cally and still calls to tell me how amazed he is in its performance. If you need spin I could see the TD being good but none of the Cally fairways really can compete with the Ti versions of the TM family. 

What spin rates were you averaging with the TD? And was in the 13.5 head?

[thlongball]

SIM TI was an absolute weapon for me for many years but TD matched it in distance and beat it in ease of use.

 

Further proof you gotta hit them yourself to know if it works for YOU.

[getitdaily]

8 hours ago, ilikegolf26 said:

I had Sim Ti. Went back to my M4 after a few weeks. 

M4 is the 1 fwy that really annoys me about TM and the non-adjustable "forgiving" model. That fairway was so freaking good but it sat so upright. I looked for flat lie tour issue models but couldn't find anything under 58. 

 

M4 is an absolute cannon too. 

[Valtiel]

11 hours ago, getitdaily said:

"The one" doesn't exist. Some launch too low. Some spin too much. Some are wild. Some are very good. Every 3w will make you desire something additional that leads to more trial and another 3w that meets 1 criteria but misses on another.

Yup, the OG SIM Ti is a classic example of a fairway that does several things *extremely* well at the expense of a couple key bits that may or may not be relevant depending on the player. You won't find anything loft for loft and strike for strike that is hotter or that will go further, the OG SIM is basically out there thanks to the combo of a hot face and super low CG. That means however that anyone that strike the ball higher on the face and/or wants more spin from the fairway will be better served elsewhere.

As a tee club you can't beat it, and for what it does IMO the SIM2 and Stealth+ both took strides to slightly shore up those "weaknesses" slightly. SIM2 positions a little more weight back for a little more forgiveness and spin, and the Stealth+ does that while also splitting the big sole weight to be a little more heel/toe, which increases forgiveness further. So I guess IMO the Stealth+ is the only true "better" SIM from a performance standpoint, and going slightly higher loft in the tour issue 4w heads is the ultimate. 

[leftyb]

This is how I feel about my XHot 5-wood. Tried to replace it a few times but nothing compares to the feel, look, flight, and predictability. 

 

And this reminds me to find another one for the day it gives up the ghost.

[joliver233]

I have the SIM 2 Ti 5 wood. At the time I didn't bag a 3 wood, but regret not getting the 3 wood as well. Been searching for a 3 wood that is similar in terms of feel, flight, performance etc. I hadn't found anything that comes close until today when I wandered down to a Callaway demo tent on the range. Tried the Ai Smoke TD 3 wood and the look, sound, feel and performance were as close as I've found to the Sim. It is one of the only 3 woods that I actually hit further than the SIM 5 wood (which is part of the reason I've been searching for a 3 wood for so long).

[1puttTUT]

On 4/27/2024 at 8:31 AM, cyr67 said:

I've heard good things about the Cobra LTDX 3 wood. Anyone have experience with that versus the SIM Ti? 

 

I've owned both the LTDx and the Stealth+.  The LTDx is a little easier to hit off the deck but spinnier and not as long.

[ilikegolf26]

13 hours ago, getitdaily said:

M4 is the 1 fwy that really annoys me about TM and the non-adjustable "forgiving" model. That fairway was so freaking good but it sat so upright. I looked for flat lie tour issue models but couldn't find anything under 58. 

 

M4 is an absolute cannon too. 

Fairway woods I’ve bought since the M4 trying to replace it:

 

- SIM TI - failed 

- Stealth - failed

- Stealth Plus - failed 

- Stealth Plus 5W turned down - beat it initially but then went back to M4 as turf interaction wasn’t great. 
- Rogue ST Max - failed miserably 

- Rogue ST LS - failed even worse than the Max

- Mavrik - failed

- Mavrik SZ 3W- failed but was close for a little while. Had some good success with it for a short time. 
- Mavrik SZ 3HL - failed
- Paradym Super Hybrid - TBD

 

Will also be buying a AI Smoke TD soon also to see if it can beat the old M4 

 

Edited May 1 by ilikegolf26

[manima1]

Anyone use the BRNR 13.5 successfully in a 3-wood replacement role?  

Seems to launch easily due to stretched back CG and obviously was designed to be a tee club.

I just find myself very rarely hitting my 4W off the deck as an approach club on my home course.  Feel like I could get more use out of a mini-driver type club in this spot 

[vamosjackets]

Cool thread.  I have the OG Sim Max 3W, with an Accra FX M3 250 shaft - was fit into it at Club Champion in 2020.  It's been such a good club for a long time. Before that I had the Ping i15 3 and 5W's that were just terrible.  I got them when I got fit for an i15 Driver 10 years prior and just ordered the matching 3 and 5W.  As awesome as that Driver was the fairways were that awful.  I just thought I couldn't hit fairways anymore until the Sim fitting.  Before those, I had the old Ping Eye wooden 3 and 5W and they were actually pretty darn good.  

 

I've lately found myself wondering if I should try something else in the 3W. I've gained swing speed and last year was fit into a SUPER stable shaft in the Driver (Ventus TR Black 6X), and so now transitioning to my 3W, I sometimes have problems.  I think that Accra shaft is really good, it just has more kick than my Driver. When I am able to make the two different swings, I can still have a good round with them, but that doesn't always happen. I have to consciously slow down a bit on the 3W - The Driver-shaft combo wants a fade, where the 3W-shaft combo wants a draw - which actually can be valuable since some holes demand a draw or fade off the Tee.  

 

So, should I go get fit for a new 3W or try the DIY approach? If DYI, should I try a whole new 3W set up or just try a new shaft in my existing Sim Max head? If it should just be a shaft change, what shaft do you think would make most sense to try given that my Driver shaft is the Ventus TR Black 6x?  (My Driver swing speed is 114-118 mph. Before it was 107-109.) 

 

On a separate note, @leftyb, speaking of the X-Hot, a buddy of mine just picked one of those up in a 3W, and it is doing extremely well for him. I tried it a few times and was also very impressed with it. 

[shortgameneedswork]

On 4/26/2024 at 6:43 PM, cyr67 said:

Has there been anything better in recent times? Ever? Currently playing this club, and after a couple of years with it in the bag, it has attained "best ever" status. Off the tee, fairway, overall distance, feel...it is the best I have played. 

Just wondering what your thoughts are or if there is anything more recent that trumps it. If you replaced your SIM Ti and are happy, why and what replaced it? Yes, I know, why would I even ask if it's so good? Proper Golfwrx'rs know the answer! 

What shaft and length do you play it at? I have one that I want to love but it is not good for a heel strike miss at all, so I am trying it with a shorter shaft for more control but it is still not quite as easy as I'd hoped. 

 

I am wondering if most people like to or need to play it at a shorter length. 

[jasona93]

On 4/29/2024 at 11:59 PM, thlongball said:

Ditto I just posted something similar in another thread. have played ALL the TM greats….07 Burner TP, RBZ/RBZ2 tour issue, M1,M2 DF and last three years with OG SIM TI Rocket….

 

NOTHING has blown my mind in the fairway wood space like the Paradym Triple D.  Absolute money for me from first shot, can do anything I want with it on shot shape/trajectory and so dam forgiving for a low spin “players,” category fairway.  It cleaned out my stable in less than a month.  

 

Bought it on a whim during Cally preowned flash sale cause I was bored and its been a awesome level up for me.

 

Same experience here. Loved the old sim Ti, surprised to find the Paradym Triple Diamond to be more versatile. The 5w is plenty at the top of the bag.

[AmateurAmateur]

Stealth Plus is my unicorn. Got my hands on a couple tour issues with identical specs. One to game for now- one for whenever I need it in the future.