Are you WRX'ers exaggerating how far you hit it?

[Thrillhouse]

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[quote name='Strömsborg' timestamp='1330327044' post='4386183']
Yeah, curious.
A few posts in the thread talk about 100 yards with a lobwedge and I want to know how they do that. I hit my 60 degree 80 yards, if I try to hit it longer the ball goes into orbit and when it eventually hits the ground it rolls back to my feet.
[/quote]

If you have forward shaft lean at impact you will get a few more yards out of your wedges. a 90 or 95 yard 60 degree wedge isnt out of the question for someone with forward shaft lean. 105 with a 64 is a little crazy, especially considering that when you get down to your wedges the distance doesn't change very much going from sea level to altitude.
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I can hit it 100 yards if I hood the club and hit a punch shot with a divot the size of a raccoon, but I feel that such shots kind of defeat the purpose of a lobwedge.
[/quote]

Thats not what im talking about, someone with forward shaft lean is simply turning that 60 degree wedge into a 56 at impact because of their impact dynamics. its how tour players hit wedges the distances they do.

[Strömsborg]

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Yeah, curious.
A few posts in the thread talk about 100 yards with a lobwedge and I want to know how they do that. I hit my 60 degree 80 yards, if I try to hit it longer the ball goes into orbit and when it eventually hits the ground it rolls back to my feet.
[/quote]

If you have forward shaft lean at impact you will get a few more yards out of your wedges. a 90 or 95 yard 60 degree wedge isnt out of the question for someone with forward shaft lean. 105 with a 64 is a little crazy, especially considering that when you get down to your wedges the distance doesn't change very much going from sea level to altitude.
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I can hit it 100 yards if I hood the club and hit a punch shot with a divot the size of a raccoon, but I feel that such shots kind of defeat the purpose of a lobwedge.
[/quote]

Thats not what im talking about, someone with forward shaft lean is simply turning that 60 degree wedge into a 56 at impact because of their impact dynamics. its how tour players hit wedges the distances they do.
[/quote]

I get your point.
But wouldn't that also make a beaver-sized divot?

[sirparalot]

Your distances are spot on to mine. I came to the realization that I will never be a big hitter. I'm 5'7" early in the morning before gravity sets in and 150 lbs. Here is what I do know..I know my yardages and I know that I can't stretch them. I can choke down and take some off but there is no adding for me. I play to 9-10 hdcp. I get out driven on most holes and I take the longest club into the green vs. my group. I'm on the green and they're in the woods or coming up short and right. I'm totally okay with this and considered the best golfer amongst my playing circle. I won't wow you with distance but I will force you to play your best to beat me..that pressure usually brings most long hitters to there knees..from there we are eye to eye:)

Play your game, enjoy the game.

[kafka01]

Those threads always crack me up - seriously if you claim to hit it 300+ you better not show up with a double digit handicap.

This is kind of a giveaway, that you a) either are exaggregating or b) you dont really understand that you should talk average here, and not downwind downhill off a cart path once every season

When you truly hit it that far, and still aren´t a low hcpper you somehow missed the point of the game.

[Myherobobhope]

[quote name='kafka01' timestamp='1330351066' post='4386869']
Those threads always crack me up - seriously if you claim to hit it 300+ you better not show up with a double digit handicap.

This is kind of a giveaway, that you a) either are exaggregating or b) you dont really understand that you should talk average here, and not downwind downhill off a cart path once every season

When you truly hit it that far, and still aren´t a low hcpper you somehow missed the point of the game.
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I had that problem in high school... all power, no control. Granted, I wasn't averaging 300+ then. (or now)

[mshills]

[quote name='Thrillhouse' timestamp='1330294799' post='4382071']
What I find weird is the guys who say they have the same swing speed as me (about 110 with the driver) who say they fly it 40 yards past where I do. I fly it 260 at sea level with that clubhead speed, some guys say they swing it at 110 and fly it 300. I know there are different launch conditions and spin numbers involved but I don't get how that amounts to 40 more yards of carry, I could see 10 or 15 maybe but not 40.
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x2. More often than not, the player you're referring to does not understand the meaning of the word "CARRY."

FWIW, my distances are almost identical to yours, and my driver clubhead speed is the same (108 to 110, won't try to swing harder than that!) I don't know if I'm short or not, but I know that I'm an inconsistent striker and need to make more putts.

[Shipwreck]

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[quote name='tws_andrew' timestamp='1330207291' post='4375735']
I think we have a more elite group that doesn't make up the normal golf population.

I am 6'5" 235 fairly muscular build. My D SS is 112-117. I have always been one of the longest players at my clubs and I have only once in my life had someone hit their irons farther than me and he was a 3 sport college athlete who I am sure based on how he looks now was using PEDs. I know I cannot hold a candle to the guys on the LD events now but when I was 17-18 I placed top 5 in my State's single LD event for a couple of years.

One thing I must mention is that I play at 4200 ft elevation so that makes a decent difference. I remember playing pebble once in the cold windy damp air and hitting some bombs that only went 270 max

My yardages mid summer
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]Dr: 330yds[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]3h: 265[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]4i: 235[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]5i: 220[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]6i: 205[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]7i: 190[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]8i: 180[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]9i: 165[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]P: 155[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]A: 140[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]S: 130[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]60:115[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]64: 105 [/size][/color]
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I'm not believing these distances at all. 105 with a 64 degree, sure guy
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yep i call BS
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Yeah, curious.
A few posts in the thread talk about 100 yards with a lobwedge and I want to know how they do that. I hit my 60 degree 80 yards, if I try to hit it longer the ball goes into orbit and when it eventually hits the ground it rolls back to my feet.
[/quote]

Did you guys even bother to read the elevation that he hits at? 4200 ft is pretty damn high and the ball does travel significantly further in higher elevation. I lived in Colorado Springs for a few months and it took me a while to adjust from hitting Sea Level (San Diego) to there. It was about a 30% gain in distance overall. A good friend of mine Ben Honaman could routinely hit 360+ yard drives up there.

[isaacbm]

[quote name='kafka01' timestamp='1330351066' post='4386869']
Those threads always crack me up - seriously if you claim to hit it 300+ you better not show up with a double digit handicap.

This is kind of a giveaway, that you a) either are exaggregating or b) you dont really understand that you should talk average here, and not downwind downhill off a cart path once every season

When you truly hit it that far, and still aren´t a low hcpper you somehow missed the point of the game.
[/quote]

+1
I think what most people are saying is that the average of their good hits is " " . That's not the definition of average hit but I assume that's what's happening.

If i hit 5 shots 300,300.300,300,200 low left off a branch what's my average?
1.300
2.320
3.280
4.405

Most people would say #1 is the answer. though # 2 would also get a lot of answers on this site. next would be #4 but they'd add an "LOL" and say they're only kidding (but not entirely) and then only a few would say #3 ( the correct answer BTW lol!)

That's what people don't get about tour averages. they are a true average not an average of only their best shots. Woodland carries it 305 average with driver. If you don't swing like him and aren't as consistent as him, you don't AVERAGE like him. Your 2 out of 10 shots that low-hook-worm-burned to 195 in the left trees actually bring the old average down 1 or 2 yards.

[Shankopottamus]

You are not average as some suggest but above average here. The average golfer has a HC in the high teens to lower 20's. There are alot of very good sticks out there and on these forums. And, yes, there is a lot of BS here, too. We're also a fickle bunch who convince ourselves that our equipment choices do wondrous things for our games that nothing else could - yet we end up buying new stuff all the time in the never ending quest for longer, more accurate, and lower scores...

[Shankopottamus]

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[quote name='kafka01' timestamp='1330351066' post='4386869']
Those threads always crack me up - seriously if you claim to hit it 300+ you better not show up with a double digit handicap.

This is kind of a giveaway, that you a) either are exaggregating or b) you dont really understand that you should talk average here, and not downwind downhill off a cart path once every season

When you truly hit it that far, and still aren´t a low hcpper you somehow missed the point of the game.
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+1
I think what most people are saying is that the average of their good hits is " " . That's not the definition of average hit but I assume that's what's happening.

If i hit 5 shots 300,300.300,300,200 low left off a branch what's my average?
1.300
2.320
3.280
4.405

Most people would say #1 is the answer. though # 2 would also get a lot of answers on this site. next would be #4 but they'd add an "LOL" and say they're only kidding (but not entirely) and then only a few would say #3 ( the correct answer BTW lol!)

That's what people don't get about tour averages. they are a true average not an average of only their best shots. Woodland carries it 305 average with driver. If you don't swing like him and aren't as consistent as him, you don't AVERAGE like him. Your 2 out of 10 shots that low-hook-worm-burned to 195 in the left trees actually bring the old average down 1 or 2 yards.
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Tour averages for drives are taken on only two holes where the highest percentage of players are expected to hit drives and those holes could change each day. I was told that driver distance average on tour is part marketing and part statistical record keeping. I'm just amazed at the tour player nowadays that lays up to 320/330 with a 3W!

[pwrfade]

I get about 10 more yards off my irons - but my driver/fairway wood distance is right there with you - swing just under 100 mph - or some times a little bit more - but never get to 105 mph

[syenkoc]

Delete.

Edited October 11, 2023 by syenkoc

[SilverBullets]

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[quote name='Thrillhouse' timestamp='1330327324' post='4386191']
[quote name='Strömsborg' timestamp='1330327044' post='4386183']
Yeah, curious.
A few posts in the thread talk about 100 yards with a lobwedge and I want to know how they do that. I hit my 60 degree 80 yards, if I try to hit it longer the ball goes into orbit and when it eventually hits the ground it rolls back to my feet.
[/quote]

If you have forward shaft lean at impact you will get a few more yards out of your wedges. a 90 or 95 yard 60 degree wedge isnt out of the question for someone with forward shaft lean. 105 with a 64 is a little crazy, especially considering that when you get down to your wedges the distance doesn't change very much going from sea level to altitude.
[/quote]

I can hit it 100 yards if I hood the club and hit a punch shot with a divot the size of a raccoon, but I feel that such shots kind of defeat the purpose of a lobwedge.
[/quote]

Thats not what im talking about, someone with forward shaft lean is simply turning that 60 degree wedge into a 56 at impact because of their impact dynamics. its how tour players hit wedges the distances they do.
[/quote]

I get your point.
But wouldn't that also make a beaver-sized divot?
[/quote]

Yes... and for what its worth, in the Columbus (thick air, low elevation) I hit a 58* 110, a 54* 120-125... when I used to carry a 60* it was my 100 yd club... And I don't consider myself a long hitter by any means... i can easily envision someone being able to hit a 64* 100 yds

[baseballfrk8998]

367 ft above sea level here in Huntsville, TX.

Driver - 260-290
3 wood - 230-240
5 wood - 215-225
4 iron - 200
5 iron - 185
6 iron - 175
7 iron - 165
8 iron - 155
9 iron - 145
46* - 135
50* - 125
54* - 115
58* - 105

Irons/wedges are probably +- 5 yards depending on if I go after it or not. I routinely lose to guys that are 2-3 clubs shorter than me too.. They can chip and putt circles around me all day, unfortunately.

[SilverBullets]

my distances (non scientific averages, but the clubs I pull for a normal tempo full swing):

Driver - 275-280
3 Wood - 255
3i - 220
4i - 205
5i - 195
6i - 185
7i - 175
8i - 165
9i - 155
PW - 145
50* - 135
54* - 120
58* - 110

[MarkFromTheUK]

If I'm not carrying my driver 400 yards when playing below sea level, in the cold and rain, and against a gale-force wind, I get rather furious.

[Locked]

I'm thrilled that I hit longer than the LPGA averages... I'll leave it at that. I'm young and fit and should hit long... but I don't.

[yukihiro]

Here are my approximate distances as of last year. I think I might have gained 5 yards all around over last year, but I haven't been playing on the course lately to really dial in my yardages. It's interesting that I hit it longer now than I did in high school, even though I played way more back then since I was on my hs team.

Driver - 270-280
3h - 210 (in the market for a 2h since I don't carry any woods)
3i - 205
4i - 195
5i - 185
6i - 175
7i - 165
8i - 155
9i - 140
PW - 130
52* - 115
58* - 100


My dad on the other hand hits his driver only about 200-220. He's 52 now, but that's been his distance for as long as I can remember. He's pretty consistent though, and I wasn't able to outscore him until I was 16.

My guess is that the average WRX'er hits it further than the average recreational golfer (my dad doesn't go on forums). We probably do have some people over-estimating their distances though. I've hit my driver about 340 before (downhill, downwind), but I don't go around saying that's my driver distance.

[wrmiller]

Most guys I play with are in the same area distance wise as you. I am not always the longest guy in the group, but sometimes am. I'm 57 years old, 6'3", chunky/fat (42" waist), w/long arms. Driver SS of 115-117 and 160 yd 8 iron. And I didn't swing any harder than normal to fly a par 4 green at just under 300yds to the flag from the tee, as verified by a guy with a laser.

Of course I couldn't hold the green and it took a huge hop into the back right bunker...

I play with a guy not much longer than you that typically shoots right around even par. Length isn't everything, but sometimes it helps.

[SnapFade2]

[quote name='Hit em good' timestamp='1330190838' post='4374173']
It sounds like I am the shortest hitter on this forum. I'm seeing posts about trying to hit the green from 270yds, and 230yd 3irons.
Do you guys really hit it that far? What are your real distances?

I hit it as long as the guys in my group (40-50yr olds, 8 - 15 hc's) I am a 6.8 hc, I play AP2's

Am I just a short knocker?

My approximate distances:
Driver 250
4w 220
19* hybrid 200
3i 190
4i 175
5i 165
6i 155
7i 145
8i 135
9i 125
P (47*) 115
52* 100
56* 85
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its not how far you hit it but how you score man.
my driver is 310
6i is 205
pw is 155

but you do hit it short but its all good as long as you take money from the other guy

[pun3536]

This is a great topic!!! It happens daily to me.... I ask the guy " How far are you hitting you current driver?" The 70 year old man replies.... "280" . I just have to hold back the "yeah right" . When he gets in the launch monitor he averages 210. And of course my machine is broken.

[Shipwreck]

[quote name='pun3536' timestamp='1330375254' post='4389799']
This is a great topic!!! It happens daily to me.... I ask the guy " How far are you hitting you current driver?" The 70 year old man replies.... "280" . I just have to hold back the "yeah right" . When he gets in the launch monitor he averages 210. And of course my machine is broken.
[/quote]

Oh man we get that all the time here. We have the Foresight Sports GC2 and I always have to tell people that it is accurate up to 8" of distance, 1/2mph in ball speed and 1/2 RPM in spin. But they never believe it.

[Pitch'n'Putt]

To the OP, I would not consider you a short knocker. I am generally the long hitter in my group and I would say you are around or above the average of my group. I am 27, 6'3", 215lbs. The other 3 guys I play with are similar in age, but smaller in stature.

My carry yardages
Driver: 285
3W: 260
3H: 235
4I: 220
5I: 210
6I: 200
7I: 185
8I: 175
9i:160
PW: 145
GW: 130
SW: 115
LW: ??? rarely hit a full shot with it

[rowjow]

I'm 16 and play of 9..

Driver- 250
3 wood- 225
19* hybrid-205
3 iron-190
4 iron-180
5 iron-170
6 iron-160
7 iron-150
8 iron-140
9 iron-125
PW-115
52*- 100
58*- no full shots

Not sure of my current summer yardages because its wet and cold, when the summer comes and its hot and dry I will be flying it 5-10 yards further and getting more roll..

[smgoldstein]

Don't hit it far enough to exagerate.

[AmazinBlue]

Many times as I read through posts here, I feel like I'm shortish. For a guy 6'3" and 210, I think I hit the ball fairly long for a 10.6 HDCP who doesn't practice much. If I could putt and chip, I'd probably be a 2.0. I'm a real high ball hitter and a sweeper. If I take a divot, it's a chili-dip.
Driver 250-275 (285 on a real solid poke)
3w 235-250
16* hy 220
19* hy 210
5i 190
6i 180
7i 165
8i 155
9i 142
PW 125
52 105
56 95
60 85

I almost feel like I should add a four iron and get rid of a wedge, but I'm not really a fan of the 5-iron anyway. I'm hoping my I20s that arrive Wednesday and my torn rotator cuff heal my game.

[Mookie91]

My stock distances (carry)
58 - 105
53 - 120
PW - 140
9 iron - 155
8 iron - 165
7 iron - 175
6 iron - 185
5 iron - 195
4 iron - 205
3 hybrid - 220
4 wood - 235
2 wood - 250
Driver - 275

Just got a launch monitor yesterday with a driver SS 111-121 Launch Angle 13.5-15.5 Spin 2600-3100. My averages were actuall pretty close to 114, 15, 2800...

[ClarkGrswld4]

i think you are extremely short with your irons compared to your driver OP but not far away from the WRX average probably with the driver

[SparkyC]

Most of the people on these forums are a bit optimistic, to say the least.

[deadsolid...shank]

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I think we have a more elite group that doesn't make up the normal golf population.

I am 6'5" 235 fairly muscular build. My D SS is 112-117. I have always been one of the longest players at my clubs and I have only once in my life had someone hit their irons farther than me and he was a 3 sport college athlete who I am sure based on how he looks now was using PEDs. I know I cannot hold a candle to the guys on the LD events now but when I was 17-18 I placed top 5 in my State's single LD event for a couple of years.

One thing I must mention is that I play at 4200 ft elevation so that makes a decent difference. I remember playing pebble once in the cold windy damp air and hitting some bombs that only went 270 max

My yardages mid summer
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]Dr: 330yds[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]3h: 265[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]4i: 235[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]5i: 220[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]6i: 205[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]7i: 190[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]8i: 180[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]9i: 165[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]P: 155[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]A: 140[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]S: 130[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]60:115[/size][/color]
[color="#1c2837"][size="2"]64: 105 [/size][/color]
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I'm not believing these distances at all. 105 with a 64 degree, sure guy
[/quote]

yep i call BS
[/quote]

Yeah, curious.
A few posts in the thread talk about 100 yards with a lobwedge and I want to know how they do that. I hit my 60 degree 80 yards, if I try to hit it longer the ball goes into orbit and when it eventually hits the ground it rolls back to my feet.
[/quote]

Did you guys even bother to read the elevation that he hits at? 4200 ft is pretty damn high and the ball does travel significantly further in higher elevation. I lived in Colorado Springs for a few months and it took me a while to adjust from hitting Sea Level (San Diego) to there. It was about a 30% gain in distance overall. A good friend of mine Ben Honaman could routinely hit 360+ yard drives up there.
[/quote]

I always thought the distance gain was about 10% at roughly 5,000 ft (Denver). We are at just about 4000 ft here, and I know the one time I played at sea level (don't get around much) in Texas, on a cool, damp day I lost about a club and a half on the irons, and roughly 25 yards with the driver. Altitude does make a big difference