Morning Drive...What Happened?

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  • just plain billjust plain bill Unregistered Posts: 1,488 ✭✭
    Mindy was a 5. Raise your standards, lol.
  • SixcatSixcat SWVAMembers Posts: 1,441 ✭✭
    edited Jan 6, 2019 8:33am #333
    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!
  • just plain billjust plain bill Unregistered Posts: 1,488 ✭✭
    Especially with the medicine they had back then. Hogan!

    Of course, tiger's comeback is pretty amazing as well, and I'm glad he's back!
  • SixcatSixcat SWVAMembers Posts: 1,441 ✭✭
    Especially with the medicine they had back then. Hogan!

    Of course, tiger's comeback is pretty amazing as well, and I'm glad he's back!




    Tiger’s comeback is amazing, especially considering his multiple surgeries. But let’s tone down the hyperbole a few notches.
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,439 ✭✭


    Especially with the medicine they had back then. Hogan!

    Of course, tiger's comeback is pretty amazing as well, and I'm glad he's back!




    Folks today just want to attach themselves with “GOAT”, Gary is just falling in line here. He has to proclaim whatever is happening at the moment as the greatest ever or he risks losing interest (clicks and page views). If Gary Wiodkand wins today they will project a major, a president’s club slot and 4+ wins for him. If Rory wins they will say he is a lock to finish off the career slam.



    ..... and next week none of this will be mentioned again.
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,462 ✭✭
    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
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  • RDDRDD Charter Members Posts: 254 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:

    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
    Yes
  • SixcatSixcat SWVAMembers Posts: 1,441 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:
    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?




    If if’s and buts were candy and nuts..........



    Until he does, it isn’t close to Hogan!
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,462 ✭✭
    RDD wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
    Yes




    So do you disagree with Jaime at the moment?
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,697 ClubWRX
    RDD wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack's major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
    Yes




    X100



    Hate to get caught up relative comparisons of injuries - enough to say that Tiger's injuries have taken him out of a lot more productive golf opportunities than Hogan's did and coming back from the totality of that to where he was in 2018 is amazing, and I've never been on his Christmas card list - BUT respect the heck out of his talent.



    It's bigger whether he breaks Jack's record or not.
  • RDDRDD Charter Members Posts: 254 ✭✭
    Holy Moses wrote:

    RDD wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
    Yes




    So do you disagree with Jaime at the moment?
    Hard to say. Tiger overcame so much more than just injury.
  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,439 ✭✭
    It’s hard to view the two comebacks in the same light. Tiger’s injuries are entirely self inflicted, he created every single adversity he has faced since 2008.



    Hogan got hit by bus that was on the wrong side of the highway.





    It’s hard to say that the guy who did all of this to himself is deserving of the title of “greatest comeback” when what he is coming back from was brought on entirely by himself.
  • Scotty1140Scotty1140 Members Posts: 4,442 ✭✭
    edited Jan 6, 2019 3:41pm #344
    RDD wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    RDD wrote:

    Holy Moses wrote:

    Sixcat wrote:


    I made an attempt to watch this morning for the first time in a long time. The first thing I heard was Jaime Diaz say “What Tiger is doing right now is the greatest comeback in golf history, maybe all of professional sports.”



    Uhm, Ben Hogan came back from near death to win 6 major championships!




    If Tiger goes on to break Jack’s major record, is it then better than what Hogan did?
    Yes




    So do you disagree with Jaime at the moment?
    Hard to say. Tiger overcame so much more than just injury.


    A lot of Tiger’s wounds were self inflicted.



    Still, to be put through the ringer by the media after the ‘09 scandal, then to endure all the back injuries and subsequent surgeries, then to be labeled as a washed up, crippled, has been by a lot of people, only to come back and be competitive last season is seriously impressive. The microscope he lives under is intense.



    If Hogan was going through his comeback now it would be one crazy story. Probably appreciated even more so.
  • North TexasNorth Texas Members Posts: 4,113 ✭✭
    Good grief people. It's not even close.



    Did Tiger almost die? Did Tiger have a double-fracture of the pelvis, a fractured collarbone, a fractured ankle, chipped ribs, and near fatal blood clots? Did he have to have emergency surgery that left his largest vein, the vena cava, permanently closed?



    Tiger's comeback is remarkable but anyone who thinks it is better than Hogans, or is even close, has no clue what they are talking about.



  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,697 ClubWRX
    Just revisiting some Hogan literature on the bookshelf today. Forgot that the effects of Hogan's injuries resulted in him making far fewer starts every year and for the rest of his career than he would have otherwise made. I'll have to do some more thinking in regard to Tiger's missed opportunities and Hogan's. Anyway, as I said, it really isn't about what was more catastrophic, who bled more, how different or multiple surgeries over time are considered, whether something was self-inflicted (hey, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it"), etc. ---- IMO.



    Maybe "bigger" comeback isn't the way to look at it. Each are unique. I'm talking myself in circles, lol.
  • North TexasNorth Texas Members Posts: 4,113 ✭✭
    edited Jan 6, 2019 10:13pm #347
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Just revisiting some Hogan literature on the bookshelf today. Forgot that the effects of Hogan's injuries resulted in him making far fewer starts every year and for the rest of his career than he would have otherwise made. I'll have to do some more thinking in regard to Tiger's missed opportunities and Hogan's. Anyway, as I said, it really isn't about what was more catastrophic, who bled more, how different or multiple surgeries over time are considered, whether something was self-inflicted (hey, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it"), etc. ---- IMO.



    Maybe "bigger" comeback isn't the way to look at it. Each are unique. I'm talking myself in circles, lol.




    Let just look at results. In the 7 years after his accident, Ben played in 15 majors. His worst finish was T8! He finished 2nd or better 10 times and won 6 majors in that time! Tiger hasn't come close to that yet. It remains to be seen if he does. But I don't see it happening.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,697 ClubWRX
    edited Jan 6, 2019 11:41pm #348

    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Just revisiting some Hogan literature on the bookshelf today. Forgot that the effects of Hogan's injuries resulted in him making far fewer starts every year and for the rest of his career than he would have otherwise made. I'll have to do some more thinking in regard to Tiger's missed opportunities and Hogan's. Anyway, as I said, it really isn't about what was more catastrophic, who bled more, how different or multiple surgeries over time are considered, whether something was self-inflicted (hey, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it"), etc. ---- IMO.



    Maybe "bigger" comeback isn't the way to look at it. Each are unique. I'm talking myself in circles, lol.




    Let just look at results. In the 7 years after his accident, Ben played in 15 majors. His worst finish was T8! He finished 2nd or better 10 times and won 6 majors in that time! Tiger hasn't come close to that yet. It remains to be seen if he does. But I don't see it happening.




    But one was physically more able to play than the other that's why the comparisons just don't work in the end. Or was that the case? So many different variables in play.
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    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
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    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    Paige is going nowhere for a long time (I hope). Great to work with.
  • RDDRDD Charter Members Posts: 254 ✭✭


    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    And you’re right, Chantel is the best post round interviewer we have.



    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    And you’re right, Chantel is the best post round interviewer we have.
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,670 ClubWRX
    RDD wrote:



    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    Paige is going nowhere for a long time (I hope). Great to work with.




    I hope so too. I like Paige.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,697 ClubWRX

    RDD wrote:



    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    Paige is going nowhere for a long time (I hope). Great to work with.




    I hope so too. I like Paige.




    She was there last week! Does a great job as you know!
  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,670 ClubWRX
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    RDD wrote:



    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the “discussion group” now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    Paige is going nowhere for a long time (I hope). Great to work with.




    I hope so too. I like Paige.




    She was there last week! Does a great job as you know!




    Thanks Hawk. Never turned a tv on last week (since all I had in the house was a bed and a chair). I’ll be watching for her.
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  • OutBackHackOutBackHack Members Posts: 910 ✭✭
    Best segment I've ever seen was on Morning Drive yesterday morning.

    The Padraig Harrington, Ryder Cup presser.

    10-15 minutes of not seeing or hearing Damon Hack was fabulous TV.
  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,704 ✭✭
    RDD wrote:



    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the "discussion group" now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    And you're right, Chantel is the best post round interviewer we have.




    So is Paige gone now?



    I see Chantelle is in the "discussion group" now. I really like her doing interviews, but not sure about this role. Easy on the eyes though!��
    And you're right, Chantel is the best post round interviewer we have.
    Chantel used to work for the Carolina Hurricanes. She did rink side reporting, and between period interviews. She was beyond awful! She seems to be better covering golf.
  • Mr. HoganMr. Hogan Members Posts: 1,342 ✭✭
    edited Jan 9, 2019 7:23pm #357
    Former Morning Drive host Holly Sonders has kicked the execrable Erik Kuselias to the curb. She's dating the new Arizona Cardinals head coach (and Ryan Gosling doppelganger) Kliff Kingsbury.



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  • youraway2youraway2 Just Old Sticks Members Posts: 1,402 ✭✭
    edited Jan 9, 2019 7:44pm #358
    The show is horrible. I tried again this morning for the MD, why do I do it? I know it will be so poor. I was starting to think, is this good, and my answer quickly came when the hacker opens his mouth, always yelling and clueless, similar to Gary. Stop yelling, no game balls, and please, I could care less what you think or what you write down for a score on a white board.
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  • golfandfishinggolfandfishing Members Posts: 3,439 ✭✭
    youraway2 wrote:


    The show is horrible. I tried again this morning for the MD, why do I do it? I know it will be so poor. I was starting to think, is this good, and my answer quickly came when the hacker opens his mouth, always yelling and clueless, similar to Gary. Stop yelling, no game balls, and please, I could care less what you think or what you write down for a score on a white board.




    I cannot believe Damon Hack has gone on for so long without anyone getting him some help from a voice or media coach. The way he continually emphasizes the wrong syllable is frightening at this point.
  • RDDRDD Charter Members Posts: 254 ✭✭

    youraway2 wrote:


    The show is horrible. I tried again this morning for the MD, why do I do it? I know it will be so poor. I was starting to think, is this good, and my answer quickly came when the hacker opens his mouth, always yelling and clueless, similar to Gary. Stop yelling, no game balls, and please, I could care less what you think or what you write down for a score on a white board.




    I cannot believe Damon Hack has gone on for so long without anyone getting him some help from a voice or media coach. The way he continually emphasizes the wrong syllable is frightening at this point.
    Damon isn’t just good, he’s incredible. Great person and great host to my buffonery.
  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,697 ClubWRX
    RDD, Chantel was right you weren't paying attention!



    TOTALLY KIDDING - couldn't pass that one up from this morning, lol. ;-)



    Thought Damon and Chantel were hyping Spieth's troubles too much, but I guess if everybody agreed the show would be boring. That aside, Damon is Damon - comes across as genuine to me, meaning no "show" for the cameras - if so, that is what counts the most for me with TV personalities, as long as those personalities aren't jerks, lol, and he certainly isn't one. Real is good.
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