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  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Members Posts: 5,745 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.



    Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.




    Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.




    What shafts did you put in those beauties?
    Ping GMax 400 10.5
    Callawy Epic 5W
    Callaway X-hot 3,4 h
    Mizuno FliHi 5 iron
    Mizuno MP4 6-W
    Fourteen mt28v3 50, 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W


  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Masters! ClubWRX Posts: 17,888 ClubWRX

    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.



    Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.




    Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.




    What shafts did you put in those beauties?




    Recoil 95 F4s - experimented with them in another set of irons instead of usual KBS Tour 90 and like them a lot.
  • wmblake2000wmblake2000 Members Posts: 5,745 ✭✭
    Nice. Been thinking about the same thing....
    Ping GMax 400 10.5
    Callawy Epic 5W
    Callaway X-hot 3,4 h
    Mizuno FliHi 5 iron
    Mizuno MP4 6-W
    Fourteen mt28v3 50, 54, 58
    Cameron Futura 5W


  • AC168AC168 Members Posts: 836 ✭✭
    Do you have a place to be fit?
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Hawkeye77 wrote:



    Hawkeye, I avoid this thread to let the lust die down but then I open it and .... wow.



    Keep posting. Very interested in your experience.




    Thanks and keep opening! It was Peanuts Daddy and a couple others in the classic thread that led me to some old Hogan and MacGregor irons, and somehow I ended up here. The Nicklaus/Don White connection was too much to resist and Ari was terrific.




    What shafts did you put in those beauties?




    Recoil 95 F4s - experimented with them in another set of irons instead of usual KBS Tour 90 and like them a lot.




    absolutely great tastes, sir! got lots of enjoyment watching them being made.
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • KellenKellen ClubWRX Posts: 376 ✭✭
    So glad to see this thread. So glad the boys are back. Patrick, I’ll be contacting you soon! Still have my specs from the scratch irons?? Lol
  • ragweed10ragweed10 Members Posts: 294 ✭✭
    I’ve noticed this on Dufners clubs & some other club manufacturers have this too. The picture below shows a thicker area back near the hosel. Does this have a performance advantage or just a look preference? I myself don’t like the look but was curious.
  • From_Parts_UnknownFrom_Parts_Unknown Members Posts: 1,837 ✭✭
    ragweed10 wrote:


    I've noticed this on Dufners clubs & some other club manufacturers have this too. The picture below shows a thicker area back near the hosel. Does this have a performance advantage or just a look preference? I myself don't like the look but was curious.




    It's just the high crotch, which is part of the design. Some irons will have a greater decent angle from the toe, or just a lower toe in general, causing a lower crotch area. Other designs might incorporate a dip in the crotch area to reduce the thickness; Steelhead irons come to mind.
  • mesegrnmesegrn mesegrn Members Posts: 1,143 ✭✭
    edited Jun 14, 2018 #250
    Can you give us Dufner's specs on his irons and wedges, lofts particularly? I mean length, lie and loft would be nice, but I'll take what I can get! He is playing very well today!!
  • Jordan SpeethJordan Speeth ClubWRX Posts: 1,090 ClubWRX
    So much for the latest/greatest. Duf was over +7 Strokes Gain Approaches today (Thursday). Something's working.
    Cobra F8+ Driver 9.5*- XCaliber Superlite 45 S
    Callaway XR Pro 16* FW- Handcrafted PX LZ 6.0
    Ping G400 17* 2-Hybrid- Xcaliber Superlite Stiff
    Ping G 22* 4-Hybrid- Xcaliber Superlite Stiff
    Callaway Apex Pro 5-Gap- Steelfiber i95
    Callaway MD-3 Black Milled 52*/10, 56*/12- KBS Black Tour Custom-S
    Callaway MD-3 Black Milled 56- KBS Black Tour Custom-S
    Odyssey White Hot #7 38"- Superstroke Tank Slim 13"
    Golf Pride MCC Grips
    Wilson Duo Urethane (this week)
    MG Elite Glove
    2018 Ping Hoofer, Eliott Alistair Leather Bag
  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,362 ✭✭
    mesegrn wrote:


    Can you give us Dufner's specs on his irons and wedges, lofts particularly? I mean length, lie and loft would be nice, but I'll take what I can get! He is playing very well today!!






    These were added to the WRX front page story on Duff Daddy's irons:



    Loft: 23/28/32/36/40/44/48

    Lie: 59.5/60/60.5/61/61.5/62/62.5

    Weights: D-3 (-2g for chrome) 50g grip, 38.5/38/37.5/37/36.5/36/35.75″ cut length
    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Cobra King LTD, ProtoPype 80x or RIP 80x, 43.5" -or- SuperDeep 9.5*, ProtoPype 80x or NV85x, 43.5"
    3w: Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
    2h:  TM Stage 2 Tour, Nv105 stiff -or- 1 iron: Maxfli Revolution, DGS400
    2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
    SW: Ram Tour Grind Feel Matched 58*, DGS
    Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
    (Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
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  • AmAgainAmAgain AmAgain Members Posts: 87
    edited Jun 18, 2018 #253
    Gents...first off Happy Fathers Day to those of you who are. I’ve begun chatting with Ari, about getting process started. I thought I was excited the day I picked up my CTS-V. The car is fun for certain, but I now have that Christmas morning when your 5yrs old feeling in my gut. I’m not sure if I’m more pumped about the sweetness of the clubs, or the chance to bounce ideas off some of the greats in their field. This could go on forever. Let’s just end it with I can’t FREAKIN’ wait.
  • AmAgainAmAgain AmAgain Members Posts: 87

    jblack983 wrote:


    Email [email protected]



    You will not be dissapointed. Promise you that




    Please reveal a bit of procedure and prices, if not a secret.




    I sent a note Friday night, hoping to here back this week. I looked at my phone about 30min after the US open ended. Ari had already replied to my questions. This makes me super happy I didn’t order PXGs a month ago. When Ari broke down the procedure my wife had to wipe drool off my chin.
  • AmAgainAmAgain AmAgain Members Posts: 87
    I feel ya on this for sure. This will be my only set out of too many to list purchased this way. The beauty of it is, think of what you liked about every iron you’ve ever hit. Let them know and it will be done that way.


    bjp1 wrote:


    Patrick/Ari, would you mind commenting on the design characteristics of the heads in this pic? I'm trying to understand what each design accomplished for a given player (trajectory, helps with certain type of miss tendencies, etc.). This was done in an earlier post with 3 of the designs, but was hoping to see comments on others you've done.







    Starting top left and going down,



    1. Reverse muscle. Highest COG. Lowest ball flight.



    2. Diamond back. High COG but not as high as Reverse. Lots of weight centered behind sweet spot. Extra solid feel.



    3. Toe weighted. Lower COG (can modify COG higher or lower) weight moved out to toe. Slight fade bias.



    4. Half diamond. Low to mid COG. Lots of weight behind sweet spot.



    Column on the right starting at the top and going down.



    5. Mid COG Double muscle. Can also be made high COG or low COG. Low COG version has a little heel/toe weighting.



    6. Classic muscle. Mid COG, more standard weighted blade design.



    7. Heel weighted. Low/mid COG. Weight shifted to the heel. Slight draw bias.



    8. Low COG, Heel/Toe weighted muscle. Higher ball flight and extra forgiveness in a muscle back design.




    That's really helpful. One of the things about getting clubs built is I finally need to really understand what I like and why...I mean, the aesthetics are beyond great, but the truth is, I'd also want the set to perform at a level equal to the aesthetics (for my skill level and swing, etc).


    I feel ya on this for sure. This will be my only set out of too many to list purchased this way. The beauty of it is, think of what you liked about every iron you’ve ever hit. Let them know and it will be done that way.


    bjp1 wrote:


    Patrick/Ari, would you mind commenting on the design characteristics of the heads in this pic? I'm trying to understand what each design accomplished for a given player (trajectory, helps with certain type of miss tendencies, etc.). This was done in an earlier post with 3 of the designs, but was hoping to see comments on others you've done.







    Starting top left and going down,



    1. Reverse muscle. Highest COG. Lowest ball flight.



    2. Diamond back. High COG but not as high as Reverse. Lots of weight centered behind sweet spot. Extra solid feel.



    3. Toe weighted. Lower COG (can modify COG higher or lower) weight moved out to toe. Slight fade bias.



    4. Half diamond. Low to mid COG. Lots of weight behind sweet spot.



    Column on the right starting at the top and going down.



    5. Mid COG Double muscle. Can also be made high COG or low COG. Low COG version has a little heel/toe weighting.



    6. Classic muscle. Mid COG, more standard weighted blade design.



    7. Heel weighted. Low/mid COG. Weight shifted to the heel. Slight draw bias.



    8. Low COG, Heel/Toe weighted muscle. Higher ball flight and extra forgiveness in a muscle back design.




    That's really helpful. One of the things about getting clubs built is I finally need to really understand what I like and why...I mean, the aesthetics are beyond great, but the truth is, I'd also want the set to perform at a level equal to the aesthetics (for my skill level and swing, etc).
  • HoganHOHoganHO Members Posts: 254 ✭✭
    HoganHO wrote:


    Here's an updated shot of my set.







    Backup Wedges (basically untouched) from this set are on the BST. Consider them a gateway drug if you're considering ordering a full set (highly recommended!!!)
  • sgtsodosgtsodo Members Posts: 90
    Is there any cavity back offerings? My current setup since 2012 is a DW Grind EZ 3-5 AR 6-7 SB 8-pw 53 and 58. I would like a refresher but don't think i could do a full muscle back set.



    Any insight?



    Thanks
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭
    sgtsodo wrote:
    Is there any cavity back offerings? My current setup since 2012 is a DW Grind EZ 3-5 AR 6-7 SB 8-pw 53 and 58. I would like a refresher but don't think i could do a full muscle back set.



    Any insight?



    Thanks




    I ordered the EZs. I’m not sure if they hold them in stock, but I did order a set about a year ago.



    Hope you get what you’re looking for!
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • RobotDoctorRobotDoctor Senior Hacker ClubWRX Posts: 4,568 ClubWRX
    I LOVE those wedges!!!!
    Titleist 905S 9.5 degree Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S
    Titleist 906F2 15 degree Fujikura Pro 73 Tour Spec stiff
    Taylormade SLDR 2 Hybrid Graphite Design Tour  AD DI-Hybrid 85 stiff
    Mizuno JPX900 Tour (3-PW) Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Miura 52* GW KBS Tour stiff
    Scratch Golf LW Nippon Modus Tour 120 stiff
    Byron Morgan Epic Day Long Pipe Copper plated
    BestGrips Augusta Microperf grips
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭


    I LOVE those wedges!!!!




    Thanks man-- me too
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • PeanutsDaddyPeanutsDaddy Members Posts: 8,658 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:



    I LOVE those wedges!!!!




    Thanks man-- me too




    mb,



    Would you be willing to post a few pictures of your NCW irons as they currently sit. Asking for a friend ; )
    Cobra King F7 9*<br />Wishon 919FD 13* (1* open)<br />Wishon 950HC 18* (1* open)<br />Wishon 775hs 21*, 24*, 27<br />NCW 28*, 33*, 38*, 43*, 48*, 53*<br />Mac Custom Grind 58* (NevadaGolfGuy Special)<br />Betti, Machine, Mannkrafted, Scotty, Tad Moore, Xenon
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:



    I LOVE those wedges!!!!




    Thanks man-- me too




    mb,



    Would you be willing to post a few pictures of your NCW irons as they currently sit. Asking for a friend ; )




    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • PeanutsDaddyPeanutsDaddy Members Posts: 8,658 ✭✭
    mb,



    enough to get me excited. Trying to finalize a set configuration in my mind before I hear from Patrick. I believe you've carried the 'EZ' headshape in the past. Could you comment on their playability and feel? I'm leaning toward this head in my mid/long irons.



    Thank you for taking the time to post the pictures. Safe travels.



    Mike.
    Cobra King F7 9*<br />Wishon 919FD 13* (1* open)<br />Wishon 950HC 18* (1* open)<br />Wishon 775hs 21*, 24*, 27<br />NCW 28*, 33*, 38*, 43*, 48*, 53*<br />Mac Custom Grind 58* (NevadaGolfGuy Special)<br />Betti, Machine, Mannkrafted, Scotty, Tad Moore, Xenon
  • j-robj-rob Members Posts: 1,080 ✭✭




    Super cool 3 club short set.




    Incredible! Love the idea too, it would be a lot of fun to play golf with that set! I feel like I need one now, thanks a lot image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



    Curious what the lofts are if that is something you can share?








    20*/37.5*/43*



    Really fun to create shots and play w a short set like that especially on a firm and fast course.




    Do you guys ever do sets like this anymore?
  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,704 ✭✭
    mbrown1833 wrote:

    mbrown1833 wrote:



    I LOVE those wedges!!!!




    Thanks man-- me too




    mb,



    Would you be willing to post a few pictures of your NCW irons as they currently sit. Asking for a friend ; )








    Wow that 1st pic is great.
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    Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
    Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)

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    C&L CL1 368g
    Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭
    mb,



    enough to get me excited. Trying to finalize a set configuration in my mind before I hear from Patrick. I believe you've carried the 'EZ' headshape in the past. Could you comment on their playability and feel? I'm leaning toward this head in my mid/long irons.



    Thank you for taking the time to post the pictures. Safe travels.



    Mike.




    There isn’t a shot I don’t feel comfortable making. If I need to bend it around a tree, get it high or low, I know I can do it. I can hit a stinger 4 iron on or off the tee, or a baby draw approach. Before the last couple of DW sets I used AP2s pretty exclusively and I knew what I could and couldn’t do with them, but I never felt totally confident. A lot of the lack of confidence was probably driven by my ignorance about club building. Confidence is not something missing with my last couple of sets probably because Patrick listens to what your swing is like and translates that to the many factors of what your clubs should be. These clubs create a versatility that not many producers can replicate.



    Good luck with your order!
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
  • LionGolferLionGolfer Members Posts: 1,307 ✭✭
    edited Jul 21, 2018 #268
    Wow! Not sure how I've only just noticed this. Congrats on the new venture all.



    Ari, I played your AR1s and wedges a while back. I've seen a Lot of great looking blades. Have you got more pics of your players cavity backs? Also, what finish options do you have and do you offer only Straight necks or have slight offset options as well? Not looking at shovel like offsets.



    Finally s20 or s25 or? Can you share forging house? Kyoei?



    These could be what brings me back from JDM.
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    UTs : Itobori-ModartMA01H-ProceedTi-PXG 317
    Irons : GrindStudioProto-ModartCBC-PXG311T-RoddioMeisterM
    Wedges : GrindStudio-Modart-Orion
    Putters : ArGolf-Benock-BPutters-Kitada-Machine-Masda-Nead-PXG-Slighter-Xenon
  • ubergooberubergoober Members Posts: 527 ✭✭
    Just beautiful Ari. I'm in. You will hear from me soon.
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    Hi-Toe 60/$-Taper 115 R+
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  • FairwayFredFairwayFred Sponsors Posts: 4,038 ✭✭
    edited Jul 23, 2018 #270
    Finished pics of new CB.



    We can facilitate just about any finish that our clients want for their project but most of the heads we make are raw.



    The clubs can be made with literally any amount of offset that the client wants and are hand ground to exact specs, shape, grind topline etc. Just about anything you want we can do, especially with a MB.



    S25.
    FREE AGENT CLUB HO NO MO!
    Ari Techner
    National Custom Works nationalcustomworks.com
    [email protected]
    IG: @nationalcustom
    Twitter: @WorksNational
    (still a huge club HO)
  • mbrown1833mbrown1833 Members Posts: 481 ✭✭


    Finished pics of new CB.



    We can facilitate just about any finish that our clients want for their project but most of the heads we make are raw.



    The clubs can be made with literally any amount of offset that the client wants and are hand ground to exact specs, shape, grind topline etc. Just about anything you want we can do, especially with a MB.



    S25.






    dope to the dope to the dope dope dope
    Titleist - 917-D3, 8.5 - AD BB-6X
    Titleist - 917-F, 15 - AD BB-7X
    Titleist - 916 T-MB 2 Iron - AD DI-105x
    BB&F Co - DW - CB, 4-P - TI AMT X100
    BB&F Co - DW - 53 & 58
    Lamb Crafted - Allendale
    MacKenzie - Sugarloaf Walker
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