VOTE: What's the best Open Championship venue?

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  • stixmanstixman Hew to the line. Let the divots fall where they may. 1926 Golf I Members Posts: 1,828 ✭✭


    Turnberry. I've been fortunate to play them all. Turnberry (current version) and Muirfield are by far the best designs. But the changes to Turnberry where it can now stretch to 7400+ and tees can be adjusted to fit the expected wind for the day. It's really hard but completely fair.



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    Great assessment, I hold no brief for Mr Trump either but everything I've seen re. his golf developments has been out of the top drawer.
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  • stixmanstixman Hew to the line. Let the divots fall where they may. 1926 Golf I Members Posts: 1,828 ✭✭
    bghanson7p wrote:


    I was at the Open in '95 and will always be completely in love with the Old Course. I am also in disagreement with some here who say that less town encroachment is better. Golf courses in Scotland are the town, and the towns connection to them makes them all the more wonderful. That being said if they played the Open at the Old Course every year no one would complain.

    I have played three of the Rota: Old Course, Turnberry and Muirfield my favorite being St. Andrews, but I would have rather played additional rounds at Nairn or Royal Dornoch (my favorite Scottish Course period) than Muirfield. A stuffy place where they (at least in the past) went out of their way to remind you you are a guest at their discretion.




    'A stuffy place where they (at least in the past) went out of their way to remind you you are a guest at their discretion.'



    Nothing like to the same extent as St Andrews at Hastings on Hudson, Baltusrol and Sleepy Hollow, from my presonal experience!
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  • scratchauthorityscratchauthority Members Posts: 7
    As much as I didn't want to because I knew that it would be popular opinion I just had to go for St Andrews because it has everything about it including the history. However, 2nd and most underused has to be Turnberry - to think it's only hosted 4 Open's and it has to rank highly based on the iconic moments for Tom Watson.
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  • 151bar151151bar151 Members Posts: 68 ✭✭
    St. Andrews is a legend, but it's ridiculously easy for modern players, especially if there is no wind.
  • shoot4parshoot4par Life's A Course ClubWRX Posts: 129 ClubWRX


    Tough to choose, they're all so good.



    I went with Carnoustie - maybe because it's the current one, and maybe because it's so nasty.



    St. Andrews has an undeniable claim for being the best-known and oldest.



    Turnberry has been taken out of contention for the time being....




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  • The Mad BomberThe Mad Bomber I seem to not like new things. Get off my lawn... Posts: 1,036 ✭✭
    Having played at Carnoustie and the Old Lady, I can't say anything but St. Andrews. The place is pure magic.
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  • KgglonghornKgglonghorn ClubWRX Posts: 53
    my lone round at the old course was marred with cars driving across the street that splits the 1 and 18 fairways, a carnival going on next to the first green, the criss crossing of fairways and people at the turn, the hecklers at the hotel, and finally, the long wait on 18 while many many non golfers ran over to Swillcan bridge to take their pictures, with absolutely ZERO regard for us on the tee. Obviously, that all gets removed for a major championship, but it certainly took away from what should have been one magical day on the links. Would I go back to paly it again? IN A HEARTBEAT.
  • 57Seve57Seve Members Posts: 47 ✭✭
    atursky wrote:


    Factoring in course design, viewing enjoyment, overall test of golf, history, and whatever else you put into your criteria, what do you think is the best Open Championship venue, and why? Leave your comments in the thread below after you vote!







    Old Course St. Andrews.

    I've played Royal Troon, so that'd be #2 for me.

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  • SugarPenguinSugarPenguin Members Posts: 12 ✭✭
    Never played it but seen the course from the coast. Has to be Muirfield in terms of the course but I don't think it's all about the course. You just cannot beat the feeling of St. Andrews. You think of the open and you Immediately think of St. Andrews.



    Birkdale is such an underrated golf course as well.
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  • justwellsyjustwellsy Posts: 972 ✭✭
    There are several great courses in the rota, but there's no chance you'll ever get a different answer out of me than St. Andrews. So much history and the farewells that have taken place on the Swilcan bridge alone are enough to sway it for me.
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  • Gotta be St. Andrews with Carnoustie a close second (possibly some recency basis)
  • rangersgoalierangersgoalie Posts: 1,744 ✭✭
    I want to say At Andrews.

    It’s just too perfect with the blen of history and weirdness of some things on the course.



    It is certainly short and too easy in calm weather for many, but nothing is close to the blend of

    History and championships imo



  • tgreenwood11tgreenwood11 Bye bye yips in 2015 Posts: 482
    Ive played a few of the Open venues. Carnoustie is by far the toughest track I’ve ever been on.
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  • tacrispytacrispy Posts: 148 ✭✭
    edited Mar 16, 2019 5:54pm #107
    Played Old course and muirfield and watched open at carnoustie. Loved old course and everything about it, love watching the opens there. That being said muirfield felt more like a charmpionship course and carboustie definitely looked the part.



    Nothing beats watching the open at old course but for a championship test I would say muirfield and carnoustie followed by old course from these 3
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  • icemakricemakr Charter Members Posts: 523 ✭✭
    Old Course if the wind is up.

    Car’nasty is wicked hard

    I voted for Muirfield, I thought it had some great holes.

    Turnberry circa 2000

    I know it can’t possibly hold a modern Open but I really enjoyed Prestwick
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  • Hogan9Hogan9 Members Posts: 51 ✭✭
    I love The Old Course due to it's history and it's still one of my favorites. However, I voted for Carnoustie simply because I think it's more difficult.
  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,659 ✭✭
    I think it's unusual how often Muirfield gets called out for being "stuffy." Perhaps some users are projecting their expectations considering they do not often gain access to a private facility? My understanding is that Muirfield and The Honourable Company of Edinburgh golfers would most closely compare to a very exclusive private club stateside like perhaps Congressional. I do not think it is fair to compare it to Augusta National, but nonetheless, it is an exclusive membership in Scotland.



    The fact that Muirfield allows unaccompanied guest play is the opposite of stuffy. Congressional, or any club of it's ilk in any major market in the U.S. certainly does not.



    The few times I have been fortunate enough to play an exclusive private golf course I did so with the upmost respect for the fact that I was entering what in effect is these members' "home."



    Maybe my opinion of Muirfield will change after I play it. But, I think it's unreasonable for players to be allowed the opportunity to visit and then complain that the atmosphere is not inviting enough for them. They are allowing you to come play the golf course, not join their club. The unaccompanied playing privileges alone are a huge improvement from the likes of even "middle tier" privates in the USA.



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  • greenj20greenj20 Members Posts: 20
    St Andrews just for the history alone.
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  • Wildwing55Wildwing55 Posts: 285 ✭✭
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  • backhillbackhill Members Posts: 92 ✭✭
    Carnoustie, but Royal Troon is a close second with the postage stamp. Love watching that hole.
  • stormbringerstormbringer Stormbringer UtahMembers Posts: 48 ✭✭
    St Andrews above all others.  
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  • irvnastyirvnasty Posts: 236 ✭✭

    I don't think there are too many wrong answers. Carnoustie would be my instinct, but obviously Turnberry, Muirfield, and of course St. Andrews all are reasonable choices as well. I do want to throw in a shout for Troon, however. I think it's underrated. Winning scores there have typically been pretty humble, with the exception being 2016, when it produced the Stenson-Mickelson duel. If not for those two, the winning score would have been in line with course history.

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  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,659 ✭✭

    I think it depends a lot on perspective, player, tv viewer, or live viewer.

    Just played TOC, Carnoustie, and Muirfield a couple weeks ago. I think the burn probably makes Carnoustie the hardest of the three. Muirfield is pure and has all of East Lothian to offer guests while watching the Open, the Old is probably the greatest experience for a live viewer and most appreciated by the non-golfing tv viewer. I'm sure the players were stoked on Carnoustie's new club house last year. If given the ability to compete you would have to say winning at TOC is on a different level. Although I'd have to say Muirfield was my favorite of the three.

  • MattP66MattP66 Members Posts: 28 ClubWRX

    Hoylake or Birkdale , idk why I just like them even though there are better courses in the rotation

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