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  • noodle3872noodle3872 Chilliwack B.C. Canada 2915Members Posts: 2,915
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    tourpure wrote:


    There is a site called Milesofgolf.com that has some testing done with launch monitor results for the driver and woods.




    https://www.milesofgolf.com/mizuno-st190-st190g-metals-review/
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Triple Diamond 10.5° driver MCA Diamana ZF 50 S Flex

    Callaway Epic Flash 15° fairway wood MCA Diamana BF 60 S Flex

    Callaway Epic Flash 21° hybrid MCA MMT 90 S Flex

    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-PW Modus3 Tour 105 S flex

    Mizuno S18 Gunmetal Wedges 50-07, 54-12, 58-12 and 62-08 Modus3 115 Wedge

    Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten S

    Titleist Yellow Pro V1x


    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5° driver MCA Diamana DF 50 S Flex

    Callaway Rogue 19° hybrid MCA MMT 90 S Flex

    Odyssey RSX Milled V-Line Fang

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  • johnnythundersjohnnythunders  1744ClubWRX Posts: 1,744
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    I going to have the try these out. I tried the st180 and dint care for the driver or fairways. I do still play the jpx900 fairways.



    Now if Mizuno should just make a single length iron set.
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    2019bag Big Bertha Fusion 10.5 Fuji evo 661 Stiff, Mizuno st190 5 atmos red 6 regular,  Epic flash 7 Fujikura xlr8 Regular, Rogue 11 fairway wood with Wishon s2s 85 gram black regular, Epic Flash Hybrid 6,  Mizuno 919 fli hi 6/7 kbs tour 90 regular, 8/9, PW Cobra F-max one length smacwrap 780 regular, Pw/Gw Mizuno  919 forged gold dynamic 95 regular, Mizuno s18 56 wedge gold dynamic regular, Toulon Austin, Ball Bridgestone b rx
  • SuperbritSuperbrit  572Members Posts: 572
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    If Pro's start putting a Mizuno driver in the bag you know it will be good
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    Honma TW717V irons 5-PW
    Honma TW forged 50*
    Cleveland RTX4 RAW 54/60*
    Machine putter

  •  SwooshLT SwooshLT  7233Members Posts: 7,233
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    Superbrit wrote:


    If Pro's start putting a Mizuno driver in the bag you know it will be good




    DLIII and Marcus Fraser are already bagging it .....in competition
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  • conorgolf22conorgolf22 Millstadt,IL 591Members Posts: 591
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    Luke Donald has it in play this week
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    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driver: Callaway Rogue 13.5* Aldila Rogue Elite Blue[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Fairway: Ping G400 17* Aldila 2KXV Orange[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21* Aldila Tour Green[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driving Iron: PXG 0311X 4 iron Steelfiber i95[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Irons: New Level 902 Forged 5-PW KBS TGI 80[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wedges: Vokey SM6 52* New Level M-Type 58* and 62*[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Putter: Scotty Cameron X7M[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ball:Vice Pro Plus/font]
  • kepeolliekepeollie  226Members Posts: 226
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    For those who have hit both the 190 and the 180 fairway woods, how do they compare?



    I’ve got a pretty good deal on a 180 (95 shipped brand new), and need to know if it’s worth jumping on it or waiting...



    Thanks in advance!
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    Ping G400 MAX
    Titleist 913H 21 degree
    Ping i200 5-UW Project X LZ 5.5
    Callaway PM Grind 56/60
    Scotty Mil-Spec 340
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4387ClubWRX Posts: 4,387
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    That's a nice looking driver. I tried the ST180 yesterday and the Tour Edge EXS. They both produced really good numbers but the sound of the ST180 was a little too much for me. Didn't really mind the blue although it is really hard to not notice... I wound up walking out with the Tour Edge EXS, but if the ST190 is as good and quieter, I will be giving it a try.



    I love how people are moaning and groaning about how they ripped off the look of the Rogue... Titleist had a similar, though maybe not as pronounced, crown in the 909 D Comp years ago. Yet, nobody ever mentions it. Carbon is the new wave obviously, people need to relax and just enjoy what we are being offered... I am really liking the sounds and feels of these composite drivers and FWs.
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  • Ri_RedneckRi_Redneck Leather for Life!!  5620Members Posts: 5,620
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    I have a set of JPX 850 driver, 3w and 7w that I am VERY fond of. Replaced the driver with the ST 180 this summer (10g hotmelt helps the sound). Didn't go with the FWs cause there was no 7w and they really don't seem to be that much different from the JPX 850 IMHO. If they offer a 7w for the ST 190, it may get my attention. I like the blue however.........



    BT
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    Bag 1
    F7 9.5* - Aldila Copperhead 70TX @ 44.5
    King LTD Blk 14.5* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 43
    King LTD Blk 19* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 41.5
    Mizuno MP15 4-pw - Aldila RIP Tour 115 R
    Mizuno MP-T5 Black 52, 56 & 60 - TT Wedge

    Bag 2
    Mizuno ST180 9.5* - Diamana Kai'Li 70 X
    Mizuno GPX850 14.5* - Motore Speeder TS 7.3 S
    Mizuno GPX850 20* - Motore Speeder TS 8.3
    Mizuno MP25 4-pw - Recoil Proto 125 F4
    Mizuno MP-T5 Satin 52, 56, & 60 TT Wedge
  • DavethegolferDavethegolfer  394Members Posts: 394
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    Ri_Redneck wrote:


    I have a set of JPX 850 driver, 3w and 7w that I am VERY fond of. Replaced the driver with the ST 180 this summer (10g hotmelt helps the sound). Didn't go with the FWs cause there was no 7w and they really don't seem to be that much different from the JPX 850 IMHO. If they offer a 7w for the ST 190, it may get my attention. I like the blue however.........



    BT
    No 7 wood coming - I wish there was
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  • Ri_RedneckRi_Redneck Leather for Life!!  5620Members Posts: 5,620
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    Ri_Redneck wrote:


    I have a set of JPX 850 driver, 3w and 7w that I am VERY fond of. Replaced the driver with the ST 180 this summer (10g hotmelt helps the sound). Didn't go with the FWs cause there was no 7w and they really don't seem to be that much different from the JPX 850 IMHO. If they offer a 7w for the ST 190, it may get my attention. I like the blue however.........



    BT
    No 7 wood coming - I wish there was


    Bummer. I tried the 5w (JPX 850) set at 19, but the trailing edge of the sole slapped the turf too much for my liking when playing off tight fairways. Down South and out West it was fine but in New England I was back with my Cobras.



    BT
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    Bag 1
    F7 9.5* - Aldila Copperhead 70TX @ 44.5
    King LTD Blk 14.5* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 43
    King LTD Blk 19* - Aldila RIP Beta 80 S @ 41.5
    Mizuno MP15 4-pw - Aldila RIP Tour 115 R
    Mizuno MP-T5 Black 52, 56 & 60 - TT Wedge

    Bag 2
    Mizuno ST180 9.5* - Diamana Kai'Li 70 X
    Mizuno GPX850 14.5* - Motore Speeder TS 7.3 S
    Mizuno GPX850 20* - Motore Speeder TS 8.3
    Mizuno MP25 4-pw - Recoil Proto 125 F4
    Mizuno MP-T5 Satin 52, 56, & 60 TT Wedge
  • hypergolfhypergolf  1250Members Posts: 1,250
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    Anyone tried the ST 190G? Kind of interested.
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  • jsnolandjsnoland  192Members Posts: 192
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    I LOVE the look of these! Planning to camp outside my fitter's the night before they're available (Apple fanboy-style) to be first in line to demo....well, probably won't go that far, but definitely would love to take these (both Driver and FW) for a spin at my first opportunity.
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    Driver - Titleist TS3 10.5 (set to B1), Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 7X
    3W - Titleist TS3 15 (set to C1), Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7X
    2I - TaylorMade P790 UDI 18*, HZRDUS Black 85g 6.5
    4I - PW - Mizuno MP-4, Project X LZ 6.0 120
    Wedges - Callaway Mack Daddy Forged (50.10, 54.10, 58.08), DG Tour Issue
    Putter - Scotty Cameron Futura 5.5M
    TaylorMade TP5x
  • Hammer22Hammer22  594Members Posts: 594
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    From Mizuno Europe with all the pics: https://golf.mizunoe...preview-images/



    And YouTube:
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  • J2puttsJ2putts  613Members Posts: 613
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    Can't wait to try it out ! Looks beautiful.
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    Cobra F9 9.0 PX Hzrdus Smoke 6.5
    Callaway XR16 Pro 3W 14.0 Fujikura Speeder 765
    Callaway XR Pro 2 Hybrid 18.0 PX 6.0
    Mizuno MP 18 Fli Hi 4 iron
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC 5 thru 7 iron
    Mizuno MP 18 SC 8 thru PW ( irons all PX LZ 6.0 120G )
    Callaway MD3 50 S Grind
    Callaway MD3 54 S Grind
    Callaway MD3 58 W Grind
    Oddysey Versa #9
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4387ClubWRX Posts: 4,387
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    Liked that vid a lot... driver sounds good, obviously hard to tell what it will be like in person but it looks fantastic and seems to perform well. Definitely looking forward to trying this one out.
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  • flushemflushem  1900Members Posts: 1,900
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    Will Keith Mitchell's win with ST190 boost the sales and the recognition?
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  • jasona93jasona93  73Members Posts: 73
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    flushem wrote:


    Will Keith Mitchell's win with ST190 boost the sales and the recognition?




    Yes, but it won't affect distribution channels unless he wins 3 tournaments in a row. I've been excited to try the ST since it was announced, but I have one option locally to do so, and from the looks of things, it will be a while before I can demo it outside. For many who only go to, say, GG, those folks are out of luck. Keith Mitchell winning is VERY good for Mizuno, but I think one of the big guns needs to be on board to make casual customers notice beyond this week's WITB articles.
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4387ClubWRX Posts: 4,387
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    I was surprised to see my store only had 2 of each driver available and maybe 3 fw woods... they had nothing in stock and no demos... Guy said they just weren't anticipating sales as the 180 didn't move much. Too bad... looks like it could be a real contender if they could get it in people's hands.
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  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou  2013Members Posts: 2,013
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    I was custom fit for the ST190 and 190 TS3metal, ordered to right set up after hitting all the new heads and shafts, then a PGA Tour win...what a great week Mizuno!
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    Mizuno ST190 10.5/ Fuji Speeder TR 661S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno CLK 16/ Nippon Modus Tour 130S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno JPX FliHi 19/ Modus Tour 130S/ PURE Wrap WHT
    Mizuno JPX919F 4-9iron Nippon SPO S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno JPX919T PW Nippon SPO S/ PURE Wrap BLK
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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 3877Members Posts: 3,877
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    flushem wrote:


    Will Keith Mitchell's win with ST190 boost the sales and the recognition?
    No.
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  • BamicusBamicus Nashville, Tn. 189Members Posts: 189
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    Just hit this driver in local shop. Longer, straighter, than all the others. Very low spin.
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  • DFDLTDFDLT  118Members Posts: 118
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    Looked at one today and it’s very nice. I may give it a try when the weather breaks.
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  • Drew-1986Drew-1986  222Members Posts: 222
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    Does anyone know if it’s possible to get the ST-190 in a flatter lie angle? Had one out on the course this weekend and was highly impressed. My only negative was the lie angle making the toe appear to sit up, my gamer is an Epic SZ so it was quite pronounced the difference
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  • Golfer from MOGolfer from MO  1004Members Posts: 1,004
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    Does anyone know if it’s possible to get the ST-190 in a flatter lie angle? Had one out on the course this weekend and was highly impressed. My only negative was the lie angle making the toe appear to sit up, my gamer is an Epic SZ so it was quite pronounced the difference




    Between the 2 was there a performance diff?
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  • Drew-1986Drew-1986  222Members Posts: 222
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    I felt my dispersion short and long was better with the ST-190. On the very best strikes I think the Epic SZ would win, however it wouldn’t be by much, and we are talking about 1 drive in 40/50 shots. I also felt the ST-190 performed better on strikes low on the face. Hope that helps
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  • flushemflushem  1900Members Posts: 1,900
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    Drew-1986 wrote:


    I felt my dispersion short and long was better with the ST-190. On the very best strikes I think the Epic SZ would win, however it wouldn't be by much, and we are talking about 1 drive in 40/50 shots. I also felt the ST-190 performed better on strikes low on the face. Hope that helps




    That sounds like now-gone JPX 900 driver. I wonder how ST 190 drives against ST 180 and JPX 900.
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4387ClubWRX Posts: 4,387
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    Just hit the 190G, not set up for me, Atmos black 6s and the weights were opposite, toe up, heel back. Regardless, this driver just seems to want to go straight.... So that was nice. Sound was good, feel was a little firm but that could have been due to weight placement... right out of the middle it feels really nice. Spin numbers were around 1900-2000 which is too low for me so I think I need to get my hands on the regular 190 and give that a go. SS was around 103-105... was said to be carrying 260 ish, ball speed around 151, but I don't know how accurate the monitors are. Driver LOOKS fantastic and my G400 has bee getting a little wonky on me lately..... tempted.
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  • robcharobcha  39ClubWRX Posts: 39
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    Nixhex524 wrote:


    Just hit the 190G, not set up for me, Atmos black 6s and the weights were opposite, toe up, heel back. Regardless, this driver just seems to want to go straight.... So that was nice. Sound was good, feel was a little firm but that could have been due to weight placement... right out of the middle it feels really nice. Spin numbers were around 1900-2000 which is too low for me so I think I need to get my hands on the regular 190 and give that a go. SS was around 103-105... was said to be carrying 260 ish, ball speed around 151, but I don't know how accurate the monitors are. Driver LOOKS fantastic and my G400 has bee getting a little wonky on me lately..... tempted.




    Pull the trigger my friend. I bought the 190g with that exact setup and have not looked back. I had the OG mizuno blue and the head size is so much nicer.
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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4387ClubWRX Posts: 4,387
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    robcha wrote:
    Nixhex524 wrote:


    Just hit the 190G, not set up for me, Atmos black 6s and the weights were opposite, toe up, heel back. Regardless, this driver just seems to want to go straight.... So that was nice. Sound was good, feel was a little firm but that could have been due to weight placement... right out of the middle it feels really nice. Spin numbers were around 1900-2000 which is too low for me so I think I need to get my hands on the regular 190 and give that a go. SS was around 103-105... was said to be carrying 260 ish, ball speed around 151, but I don't know how accurate the monitors are. Driver LOOKS fantastic and my G400 has bee getting a little wonky on me lately..... tempted.




    Pull the trigger my friend. I bought the 190g with that exact setup and have not looked back. I had the OG mizuno blue and the head size is so much nicer.
    Thought about it. Spin is a little low for real world performance for me... maybe the blue would help a touch but I think the regular head is going to be a better fit. Beautiful drivers.
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  • evoviiiyouevoviiiyou evoviiiyou  2013Members Posts: 2,013
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    flushem wrote:

    Drew-1986 wrote:


    I felt my dispersion short and long was better with the ST-190. On the very best strikes I think the Epic SZ would win, however it wouldn't be by much, and we are talking about 1 drive in 40/50 shots. I also felt the ST-190 performed better on strikes low on the face. Hope that helps




    That sounds like now-gone JPX 900 driver. I wonder how ST 190 drives against ST 180 and JPX 900.




    Highest Spin and launch angle JPX900

    Lowest Spin and launch angle ST180

    Perfect for me ST190
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    Mizuno ST190 10.5/ Fuji Speeder TR 661S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno CLK 16/ Nippon Modus Tour 130S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno JPX FliHi 19/ Modus Tour 130S/ PURE Wrap WHT
    Mizuno JPX919F 4-9iron Nippon SPO S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno JPX919T PW Nippon SPO S/ PURE Wrap BLK
    Mizuno S18 Wedge 51/08/ PXLZ 5.5/ PURE Wrap BLK
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