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How to add Width and be on Plane

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  • musclefrontmusclefront Members  448WRX Points: 366Posts: 448 Greens
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    p6 he just looks like he’s gonna smash the crap out of it.

    Love to see that in a driver

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  • 97speedster97speedster Speedster Members  671WRX Points: 544Handicap: +2Posts: 671 Golden Tee
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    On -, @musclefront said:

    p6 he just looks like he’s gonna smash the crap out of it.

    Love to see that in a driver

    Here is a video of George Gankas analyzing Brooks Koepka's golf swing:

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    WITB in 2018
    Driver: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (10.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 6X
    3 Wood: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (14.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 7X
    Hybrid: Srixon U85 (18 degrees)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100 
    Irons: TaylorMade P-760 (4-PW)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2"
    Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind (52.12, 58.12), Callaway Mack Daddy 2 64.8
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2" in 52 & 58; True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S-400 in 64
    Putter: Tour Issue Odyssey White Hot 2-Ball Lined and Filled 34"
    Grip: Golf Pride Classic Putter Grip
    Golf Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
  • blehnhardblehnhard Over The Hill & Almost Down The Other Side Members  543WRX Points: 136Posts: 543 Golden Tee
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    BK's club face doesn't look all that shut at the top or in transition.

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  • mocokidmocokid Members  2260WRX Points: 395Posts: 2,260 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @Mr. Grumpy said:

    Great thread and love your detailed posts, keep them coming. I know you are an RA2 user, but have you converted to the Gravity Fit?
    Android users, beware, the Hudl app is virtually useless,, still seems fully functional for Apple users though..

    I like them both, but I am partial to the Right Angle 2. It's one of the only long game training that Butch uses with his students and he doesn't even have an endorsement deal with them so that speaks volumes.

    Finally tried the Right Angle that I bought awhile ago. WOW what a difference it makes in keeping my arms in front of me (3/4 backswing) while my core- shoulders turn a full 90*. I set it on 1/2. Takes some time to get synched up if you have been overswinging (run off) for 30+ years like me, but it makes is SO EASY to get the correct path to the ball and solid contact. I try to keep the hands no higher than my shoulder at top of swing, even shorter - left arm parallel to ground, and just turn through impact from there. WOW.

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  • mocokidmocokid Members  2260WRX Points: 395Posts: 2,260 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    Here a few sequences of Tiger swinging a driver and an iron from back in 1999-2000 when he was working with Butch and making his first major swing change from his 1997 Masters swing.... it got better and better leading into 2000 when had that epic year, but these are from right before that period.

    wow does he ever keep his spine angle, from address to arms parallel to ground after impact, amazing. But did it put strain on his back, I wonder.

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  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members  6096WRX Points: 622Posts: 6,096 Titanium Tees
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    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

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  • 97speedster97speedster Speedster Members  671WRX Points: 544Handicap: +2Posts: 671 Golden Tee
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    On -, @Redjeep83 said:

    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

    Tiger also doesn't load up his right side as much either, he stays a lot more centered to the ball now; he used to get more behind the ball on the backswing with more width.

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    WITB in 2018
    Driver: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (10.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 6X
    3 Wood: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (14.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 7X
    Hybrid: Srixon U85 (18 degrees)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100 
    Irons: TaylorMade P-760 (4-PW)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2"
    Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind (52.12, 58.12), Callaway Mack Daddy 2 64.8
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2" in 52 & 58; True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S-400 in 64
    Putter: Tour Issue Odyssey White Hot 2-Ball Lined and Filled 34"
    Grip: Golf Pride Classic Putter Grip
    Golf Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
  • Redjeep83Redjeep83 Members  6096WRX Points: 622Posts: 6,096 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @Redjeep83 said:

    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

    Tiger also doesn't load up his right side as much either, he stays a lot more centered to the ball now; he used to get more behind the ball on the backswing with more width.

    yea, I haven't even heard that taught much atleast in recent decade to get hands more out and wide. Seems all the pro's who do that somewhat are trying to get them more in, like Rory and Adam Scott.

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  • DonRSDDonRSD Hack Since '17 South FloridaMembers  309WRX Points: 137Handicap: 14Posts: 309 Greens
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    RA2 is a god send

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    3 Wood: Titleist TS2
    Irons: TaylorMade P790
    Wedges: Vokey SM8
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom X7
  • peepeepeepee Members  105WRX Points: 50Handicap: 9Posts: 105 Fairways
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    On -, @DonRSD said:

    RA2 is a god send

    great thread

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  • TIM929TIM929 Los AngelesMembers  1533WRX Points: 948Handicap: 14.2Posts: 1,533 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @peepee said:

    On -, @DonRSD said:

    RA2 is a god send

    great thread

    Yup! I feel PeePee too, great thread!

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  • nikeblades00nikeblades00 Members  266WRX Points: 166Posts: 266 Greens
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    Thanks for bumping this thread. Agreed this is a gem of a thread. I as well ordered the RA2 a couple of months ago and it has made a positive impact in my swing. For me I just take about 25 slow swings with it and also hit some balls with it . Just helps ingrain the feel of width, and it has in effect helped me get on a better plane as well. Thanks 97speeder. Very generous of you to start this thread and share the wealth of knowledge.

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  • smoothie4896smoothie4896 Members  603WRX Points: 125Posts: 603 Golden Tee
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @Redjeep83 said:

    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

    Tiger also doesn't load up his right side as much either, he stays a lot more centered to the ball now; he used to get more behind the ball on the backswing with more width.


    Wanted to ask a question and get your take (or anyone elses). With your backswing pictured below, do you have any issues with the hands being deep on the take away, then working up like they do? Compared to the pics of early tiger take away where his hands work more out or even inline with the shoulders. Ive noticed with myself, that when my hands work too deep on the backswing, I have a tendency to get across the line at the top with my arm being pinned against my shoulder and to low, then all kinds of bad things can happen. Would like to hear yours or iteach take on this, maybe if you have deep hands on the back swing, is there certain things you have to make sure you do?
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  • 97speedster97speedster Speedster Members  671WRX Points: 544Handicap: +2Posts: 671 Golden Tee
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @Redjeep83 said:

    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

    Tiger also doesn't load up his right side as much either, he stays a lot more centered to the ball now; he used to get more behind the ball on the backswing with more width.


    Wanted to ask a question and get your take (or anyone elses). With your backswing pictured below, do you have any issues with the hands being deep on the take away, then working up like they do? Compared to the pics of early tiger take away where his hands work more out or even inline with the shoulders. Ive noticed with myself, that when my hands work too deep on the backswing, I have a tendency to get across the line at the top with my arm being pinned against my shoulder and to low, then all kinds of bad things can happen. Would like to hear yours or iteach take on this, maybe if you have deep hands on the back swing, is there certain things you have to make sure you do?

    That was something I was working on then, but I never incorporated it.... I went back to width with less wrist hinge right after this was taken.

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    WITB in 2018
    Driver: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (10.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 6X
    3 Wood: TaylorMade RBZ Tour Stage 2 (14.5 degrees)
    Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Blue Tour Spec 7X
    Hybrid: Srixon U85 (18 degrees)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100 
    Irons: TaylorMade P-760 (4-PW)
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2"
    Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind (52.12, 58.12), Callaway Mack Daddy 2 64.8
    Shaft: KBS TGI 100  +1/2" in 52 & 58; True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S-400 in 64
    Putter: Tour Issue Odyssey White Hot 2-Ball Lined and Filled 34"
    Grip: Golf Pride Classic Putter Grip
    Golf Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
  • DonRSDDonRSD Hack Since '17 South FloridaMembers  309WRX Points: 137Handicap: 14Posts: 309 Greens
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    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @97speedster said:

    On -, @Redjeep83 said:

    Tiger really had his hands more out and away from body on takeaway back then like it was adding width. He doesn't do that anymore

    Tiger also doesn't load up his right side as much either, he stays a lot more centered to the ball now; he used to get more behind the ball on the backswing with more width.


    Wanted to ask a question and get your take (or anyone elses). With your backswing pictured below, do you have any issues with the hands being deep on the take away, then working up like they do? Compared to the pics of early tiger take away where his hands work more out or even inline with the shoulders. Ive noticed with myself, that when my hands work too deep on the backswing, I have a tendency to get across the line at the top with my arm being pinned against my shoulder and to low, then all kinds of bad things can happen. Would like to hear yours or iteach take on this, maybe if you have deep hands on the back swing, is there certain things you have to make sure you do?

    That was something I was working on then, but I never incorporated it.... I went back to width with less wrist hinge right after this was taken.

    Looks like some Gankas nonsense lol

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    Driver: Titleist TS2
    3 Wood: Titleist TS2
    Irons: TaylorMade P790
    Wedges: Vokey SM8
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom X7
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