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Current Ping Iron Lineup Shootout


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I did some testing of all the current PING irons this past week. All 7 irons at standard lofts, KBS Tour S, same length, same Bridgestone Tour B XS balls, same SkyTrak setting tested indoors on a premium mat. Hit 5 balls with each iron, switched to the next head, rotated through 3 cycles (15 shots with each setup).

Interesting to see that the height and descent angles didn't change all that much as the lofts and ball speeds got stronger.

Might do the current Titleist lineup next to see how they stack up against each other and the PING range.

Open to criticism and questions from the peanut gallery, have a great day everybody!

Alex

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PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
Bridgestone Tour B XS

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Awesome comparison.

23 yards from Blueprint to G710. Obviously loft related, but still, it's impressive compared to even their other distance irons.

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Ping G430 MAX 3W 15*, Ventus TR Red 7X
Ping G430 Hybrid 19*, Ventus Blue HB 9X

Ping Blueprint S, 4-PW DG 120 S300

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Nice comparison. Surprised at the variances, maybe it is more than just marketing.

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Titleist TS2 19 Tensei CK Blue 70 S
Mizuno MP20 HMB 4-P Modus3 Tour 105 S
Callaway Jaws 50, 54, 58 DG Tour 115
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Nice numbers. How did the G710's feel and sound?

 

As for criticism I have none for you. But your post might anger a few people in the jacked loft camp that swear there is no extra technology in the clubs, and that they are just the same clubs we have always hit, but with the wrong number stamped on them.

 

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Launch angle is listed, 2nd column in from the left.

It all comes down to ball speed and spin. Blueprint, Iblade, and I210 all have similar distance, and all 3 have similar ball speed and spin. Start to see the distance increase as you go down the list. I500 to G710, ball speed steadily goes up and spin goes down.

Don’t want to start a war here but lofts are 34* for Blueprint and Iblade, 33* for I210, 30.5* for I500, 30* for G410, and 29.5 for the G710. If they all were adjusted to the same loft I think the distances would be a lot closer. You would still see an increase with the I500, G410, and G710 due to the flexible faces, but not nearly as dramatic. Probably wouldn’t be more than 5 yards between them all.

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Driver:  Cobra Darkspeed LS 9* Tour 2.0 Black 65X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 14* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 19.5* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Irons:  PXG 0317 CB 5-GW KBS Tour 130X

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 54S Modus 125W

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 58S Modus 125W

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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Great thread. Thanks for the comparison. Good to see a somewhat repeatable high speed swing and the deltas between each model. @jblough99 makes a good point. I would love to see all the irons at ~34 degrees to see what the real differences (if any are). Not asking you to do that BTW! :-)

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iBlade and i210 pretty similar and noticeably harder than Blueprint. Certainly not hard but the Blueprint take the cake in terms of feel. Also I noticed they were noticeably thinner than even the iBlade at address.

PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
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G710s feel better and sound better than the G700s by MILES. Definitely not soft by any means but not the hard/harsh feel and sound from the G700s. As for the "loft jacking" camp yeah, the lofts are stronger as the heads get more game improvement. I'm not the guy the G710s are aimed at but if jacking the loft while keeping the spin decent and the descent angle helps someone with lower swing speed or inconsistent strike who really cares what the loft is?

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PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
Bridgestone Tour B XS

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I'm gaming the Blueprints but have my iBlades still in the backup bag. I may go through and do a club-for-club test this coming week. Weather gonna be awful Wednesday so I'll have time...

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PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
Bridgestone Tour B XS

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When I was recovering from a back injury and nerve damage in the shoulder, the G700s were exactly what I needed at the time. If they did not have so much offset I might still be using them.

It's good to know that they improved on the sound and feel. Maybe more people will put them in play, because if they perform anything like the G700s they are an amazing club.

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This is such a cool post. The way I'm interpreting the numbers, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that for golfers of various ages and abilities, there's a club for everyone within the Ping spectrum. I love the feel of the G410, I love the looks of the i500, my ego may not let me game the G710 and I would be embarrassing myself with the i210, iblade or blueprint. From a fitting perspective, the G410 is what I should be using, I was told I could get away with the i500 but it's not as forgiving as the G410.

Thanks for putting this together, very insightful!

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TXG did this with the i500 and found that (at least for Matt) they stock loft was really where they performed best. The faces of those clubs are designed to flex such that you might gain a degree or two of extra loft when you strike the ball due to the face deforming. The CG placement also might simply make the ball go too high with a swing speed like this.

 

However, for a slower swing speed player, they might truly benefit from a club like the g710 with traditional lofts. Of course for that player, it's easy to just stop at the 6i, 7i,, or 8i and go to hybrids and you end up with the same effect.

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@GolfMonster09 - Cool thread. Maybe you should be playing i210s!
Maybe this is a different thread, but I noticed you have Cushin inserts. Do you have any thoughts on how much they matter from a vibration dampening perspective? I have them in my Modus 105S shafts. My fitter a couple years ago asked if I wanted them as sort of an afterthought... I said sure. Last year I broke my 6 iron punching out from some trees, at the exact point where the Cushin was installed. I weighed the Cushin insert and it was exactly 10g. I am currently debating moving to Modus 120S, which is 7g heavier than the 105S without Cushin. If I don't get Cushin in the 120S, it will technically be lighter than the 105S I play now. If I do get them, I will be up in the 124g weight zone, which may be a bit much.
Anyway, I guess my questions are whether you have noticed a vibration dampening difference. and if you think the weight is a consideration. I know they install them around the balance point so it doesn't really affect the swing weight but it obviously has to affect the overall weight.

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3W: Titleist D917 13.5 @ 15, Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7S
5W: Titleist D917 18 @ 18.75, Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 8S
Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 21 @ 22, Diamana D+ 100 Hybrid
Irons: PING i210 (5-U), Nippon Modus 120S
Wedges: PING Glide (54 SS, 58 WS), PING CFS Wedge
Putter: PING Sigma 2 Arna
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@GolfMonster09 Is there any way you could post the dispersion map showing all the clubs. Just curious to see what they all look like compared to one another. For a +4.5 like yourself, Im interested to see if your dispersion is tighter with the more “traditional” designs vs the “more forgiving” designs or vice versa.

Driver:  Cobra Darkspeed LS 9* Tour 2.0 Black 65X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 14* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 19.5* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Irons:  PXG 0317 CB 5-GW KBS Tour 130X

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 54S Modus 125W

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 58S Modus 125W

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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I know you didn’t specifically ask me but I have the Cushin inserts in my i210s. I’ve ordered the last few sets with the inserts so I probably wouldn’t be the right person to compare the feel with or without, but I would advise you to make sure when you order the set from Ping - specify the Swingweight you want. Simply telling them standard Swingweight is sufficient. I only mention this because if you don’t specify the desired swingweight, they will include the insert but will not adjust Swingweight. Their policy may have changed on this but that is what customer service told me before I ordered the i210s last year.

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Cool test. That’s my 5-iron data for the most part so maybe I could just pretend... ha ha. Obviously the more speed the larger variances between the lines.

Hard not to look at that data and say the i210 would likely be ideal for this player (unless he just prefers the look or feel of the Blueprint)

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I'm wondering about the clubhead speed differences between those two. If you equalize that variable, the distance is similar, and it's just the dispersion as the difference.

15 shots is too small a sample size to base a long term decision, such as I see it. More time with each would be needed, if this were a "which one to get" sort of session.

Find the dispersion difference between the G410 and G710 also interesting.

Outstanding stuff. Love this sort of comparison.

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Driver: TM 300 Mini 11.5*, 43.5", Phenom NL 60X -or- Cobra SpeedZone, ProtoPype 80S, 43.5"

Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, Rogue Black 75X -or- TM Stage 2 Tour 3w, NV105 X -or- TEE E8 Beta 12*, Rogue Silver 70X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S -or- TEE CBX 17*, HZRDUS 85 6.0

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Launch angle and ball speed was a bit higher with the Iblade vs the blueprint. Ball was in the air slightly longer, giving it more time to travel farther.

Driver:  Cobra Darkspeed LS 9* Tour 2.0 Black 65X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 14* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 19.5* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Irons:  PXG 0317 CB 5-GW KBS Tour 130X

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 54S Modus 125W

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 58S Modus 125W

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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