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Current Ping Iron Lineup Shootout

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I did some testing of all the current PING irons this past week. All 7 irons at standard lofts, KBS Tour S, same length, same Bridgestone Tour B XS balls, same SkyTrak setting tested indoors on a premium mat. Hit 5 balls with each iron, switched to the next head, rotated through 3 cycles (15 shots with each setup).

Interesting to see that the height and descent angles didn't change all that much as the lofts and ball speeds got stronger.

Might do the current Titleist lineup next to see how they stack up against each other and the PING range.

Open to criticism and questions from the peanut gallery, have a great day everybody!

Alex


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PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
Bridgestone Tour B XS
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  • Hougz79Hougz79 Members  487WRX Points: 145Posts: 487 Greens
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    Awesome comparison.

    23 yards from Blueprint to G710. Obviously loft related, but still, it's impressive compared to even their other distance irons.

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    Callaway MAVRIK Sub Zero 9*, GD AD-TP 7X
    Callaway MAVRIK 3w, GD AD-IZ 8X 
    Titleist 818H1 21*, GD AD-IZ 95S
    Ping i210 4-AW, DG 120 S300
    Ping Glide 3.0 54SS, 58SS DG TI S400
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Special Select
    Ping Hoofer (2018)

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  • gvogelgvogel Members  8500WRX Points: 1,416Posts: 8,500 Titanium Tees
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    I'd like to see this shoot out by someone with moderate swing speed. Like me.

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  • BCULAWBCULAW Orlando, FLMembers  3873WRX Points: 377Posts: 3,873 Titanium Tees
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    Thanks for doing this. Very cool to see the comparo. Ping seems to have really hit a homerun with the i210. They really have something for everyone, though.

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  • ShallowbutDeadlyShallowbutDeadly Members  177WRX Points: 78Posts: 177 Fairways
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    Would love to see a graph with the dispersion pattern.

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  • leftycabeleftycabe IowaClubWRX  165WRX Points: 131Handicap: GolfPosts: 165 ClubWRX
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    Great stuff! I’d love to know what your thoughts were around feel between blueprint, iblade, and i210.

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  • CyFan CyFan If I could putt, I could play this game... Members  697WRX Points: 136Handicap: 2.8Posts: 697 Golden Tee
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    Nice comparison. Surprised at the variances, maybe it is more than just marketing.

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  • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1 Members  1011WRX Points: 398Posts: 1,011 Platinum Tees
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    Nice numbers. How did the G710's feel and sound?


    As for criticism I have none for you. But your post might anger a few people in the jacked loft camp that swear there is no extra technology in the clubs, and that they are just the same clubs we have always hit, but with the wrong number stamped on them.

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  • Geoff_DicksonGeoff_Dickson Members  17WRX Points: 26Posts: 17 Bunkers
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    Launch angles not reported....but max height is (and they are all fairly similar).....I think it might have more to do with ballspeed and spin than loft.

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  • ldh692002ldh692002 Members  468WRX Points: 70Posts: 468 Greens
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    I Blade all day!!! Great numbers all around. If you got the money go blueprint but I’d say numbers alone i Blade is your go to.

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    Ping G30 LS 9* tour 65X
    Ping Rapture D.I. 18
    Ping G25 3-PW CFS X
    Ping Glide (50,54,58) CFS Wedge
    Ping Anser TR 5
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  • jblough99jblough99 Members  1052WRX Points: 282Posts: 1,052 Platinum Tees
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    Launch angle is listed, 2nd column in from the left.

    It all comes down to ball speed and spin. Blueprint, Iblade, and I210 all have similar distance, and all 3 have similar ball speed and spin. Start to see the distance increase as you go down the list. I500 to G710, ball speed steadily goes up and spin goes down.

    Don’t want to start a war here but lofts are 34* for Blueprint and Iblade, 33* for I210, 30.5* for I500, 30* for G410, and 29.5 for the G710. If they all were adjusted to the same loft I think the distances would be a lot closer. You would still see an increase with the I500, G410, and G710 due to the flexible faces, but not nearly as dramatic. Probably wouldn’t be more than 5 yards between them all.

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    Driver - G410 LST 9* Ventus Black 7X (tipped 1”)
    Fairway - Under Construction
    Hybrid - Under Construction
    Irons - 2019 Cobra King Forged MB 5-GW KBS $-Taper 130X
    Sand Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 56.10 Versatile KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
    Lob Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 60.04 Widelow KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125 
    Putter - Tour Issue Odyssey Protype PT12
    


  • beluga99beluga99 If Florence Nightingale over here would play a little defence.. Members  1063WRX Points: 203Handicap: 4.7Posts: 1,063 Platinum Tees
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    Great thread. Thanks for the comparison. Good to see a somewhat repeatable high speed swing and the deltas between each model. @jblough99 makes a good point. I would love to see all the irons at ~34 degrees to see what the real differences (if any are). Not asking you to do that BTW! :-)

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  • T.B.T.B. Members  326WRX Points: 111Handicap: 10Posts: 326 Greens
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    Ping really has something that’s going to work for everyone. Great line up of clubs.

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  • GolfMonster09GolfMonster09 PING Staff 2020 Members  1516WRX Points: 279Handicap: +4.5 indexPosts: 1,516 Platinum Tees
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    iBlade and i210 pretty similar and noticeably harder than Blueprint. Certainly not hard but the Blueprint take the cake in terms of feel. Also I noticed they were noticeably thinner than even the iBlade at address.

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    PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
    PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
    PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
    Bridgestone Tour B XS
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  • GolfMonster09GolfMonster09 PING Staff 2020 Members  1516WRX Points: 279Handicap: +4.5 indexPosts: 1,516 Platinum Tees
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    G710s feel better and sound better than the G700s by MILES. Definitely not soft by any means but not the hard/harsh feel and sound from the G700s. As for the "loft jacking" camp yeah, the lofts are stronger as the heads get more game improvement. I'm not the guy the G710s are aimed at but if jacking the loft while keeping the spin decent and the descent angle helps someone with lower swing speed or inconsistent strike who really cares what the loft is?

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    PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
    PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
    PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
    Bridgestone Tour B XS
  • GolfMonster09GolfMonster09 PING Staff 2020 Members  1516WRX Points: 279Handicap: +4.5 indexPosts: 1,516 Platinum Tees
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    I'm gaming the Blueprints but have my iBlades still in the backup bag. I may go through and do a club-for-club test this coming week. Weather gonna be awful Wednesday so I'll have time...

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    PING G410 LST 9* (Weight neutral) - HZRDUS Black 6.5 
    PING G410 14.5* LST - Tensei Pro Orange TX 70
    PING Blueprint 3-Pw - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING Glide Forged (Ping Man stamps) - 50º/54º/58º - KBS Tour S+ - Cushin
    PING PLD Anser "Honey Badger"
    Bridgestone Tour B XS
  • 1Mordrid11Mordrid1 Members  1011WRX Points: 398Posts: 1,011 Platinum Tees
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    When I was recovering from a back injury and nerve damage in the shoulder, the G700s were exactly what I needed at the time. If they did not have so much offset I might still be using them.

    It's good to know that they improved on the sound and feel. Maybe more people will put them in play, because if they perform anything like the G700s they are an amazing club.

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  • shinobishinobi Members  41WRX Points: 27Posts: 41 Bunkers
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    same here! impressive numbers though...much appreciated!

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  • mahblesmahbles Members  155WRX Points: 97Posts: 155 Fairways
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    This is such a cool post. The way I'm interpreting the numbers, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that for golfers of various ages and abilities, there's a club for everyone within the Ping spectrum. I love the feel of the G410, I love the looks of the i500, my ego may not let me game the G710 and I would be embarrassing myself with the i210, iblade or blueprint. From a fitting perspective, the G410 is what I should be using, I was told I could get away with the i500 but it's not as forgiving as the G410.

    Thanks for putting this together, very insightful!

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    • PXG Gen 2 0317X 22* - Fuji PRO 2.0 8HB stiff
    • PXG Gen 3 0311P 5-GW - True Temper Elevate Pro stiff
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  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers  699WRX Points: 388Handicap: 14.5Posts: 699 Golden Tee
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    TXG did this with the i500 and found that (at least for Matt) they stock loft was really where they performed best. The faces of those clubs are designed to flex such that you might gain a degree or two of extra loft when you strike the ball due to the face deforming. The CG placement also might simply make the ball go too high with a swing speed like this.


    However, for a slower swing speed player, they might truly benefit from a club like the g710 with traditional lofts. Of course for that player, it's easy to just stop at the 6i, 7i,, or 8i and go to hybrids and you end up with the same effect.

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    Ping G410 4H
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  • NorthStar7NorthStar7 Members  43WRX Points: 40Handicap: 6.5Posts: 43 Bunkers
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    @GolfMonster09 - Cool thread. Maybe you should be playing i210s!

    Maybe this is a different thread, but I noticed you have Cushin inserts. Do you have any thoughts on how much they matter from a vibration dampening perspective? I have them in my Modus 105S shafts. My fitter a couple years ago asked if I wanted them as sort of an afterthought... I said sure. Last year I broke my 6 iron punching out from some trees, at the exact point where the Cushin was installed. I weighed the Cushin insert and it was exactly 10g. I am currently debating moving to Modus 120S, which is 7g heavier than the 105S without Cushin. If I don't get Cushin in the 120S, it will technically be lighter than the 105S I play now. If I do get them, I will be up in the 124g weight zone, which may be a bit much.

    Anyway, I guess my questions are whether you have noticed a vibration dampening difference. and if you think the weight is a consideration. I know they install them around the balance point so it doesn't really affect the swing weight but it obviously has to affect the overall weight.

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  • jblough99jblough99 Members  1052WRX Points: 282Posts: 1,052 Platinum Tees
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    @GolfMonster09 Is there any way you could post the dispersion map showing all the clubs. Just curious to see what they all look like compared to one another. For a +4.5 like yourself, Im interested to see if your dispersion is tighter with the more “traditional” designs vs the “more forgiving” designs or vice versa.

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    Driver - G410 LST 9* Ventus Black 7X (tipped 1”)
    Fairway - Under Construction
    Hybrid - Under Construction
    Irons - 2019 Cobra King Forged MB 5-GW KBS $-Taper 130X
    Sand Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 56.10 Versatile KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
    Lob Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 60.04 Widelow KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125 
    Putter - Tour Issue Odyssey Protype PT12
    


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    I know you didn’t specifically ask me but I have the Cushin inserts in my i210s. I’ve ordered the last few sets with the inserts so I probably wouldn’t be the right person to compare the feel with or without, but I would advise you to make sure when you order the set from Ping - specify the Swingweight you want. Simply telling them standard Swingweight is sufficient. I only mention this because if you don’t specify the desired swingweight, they will include the insert but will not adjust Swingweight. Their policy may have changed on this but that is what customer service told me before I ordered the i210s last year.

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  • cmatthews77cmatthews77 ALMembers  918WRX Points: 119Handicap: 1.5Posts: 918 Golden Tee
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    Cool test. That’s my 5-iron data for the most part so maybe I could just pretend... ha ha. Obviously the more speed the larger variances between the lines.

    Hard not to look at that data and say the i210 would likely be ideal for this player (unless he just prefers the look or feel of the Blueprint)

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Minnesota, USAMembers  7378WRX Points: 1,430Handicap: 7Posts: 7,378 Titanium Tees
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    I'm wondering about the clubhead speed differences between those two. If you equalize that variable, the distance is similar, and it's just the dispersion as the difference.

    15 shots is too small a sample size to base a long term decision, such as I see it. More time with each would be needed, if this were a "which one to get" sort of session.

    Find the dispersion difference between the G410 and G710 also interesting.

    Outstanding stuff. Love this sort of comparison.

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    Driver:  Cobra King LTD, Aldila ProtoPype 80x, 43.5"
    3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
    3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, DGS400
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300
    Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.25"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Professional, or 50 Elite... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
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    Except for the iblade, the results of carry vs loft is pretty linear with expected gaps. Not sure why the iblade gained 4 yard vs the blue print.

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  • jblough99jblough99 Members  1052WRX Points: 282Posts: 1,052 Platinum Tees
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    Launch angle and ball speed was a bit higher with the Iblade vs the blueprint. Ball was in the air slightly longer, giving it more time to travel farther.

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    Driver - G410 LST 9* Ventus Black 7X (tipped 1”)
    Fairway - Under Construction
    Hybrid - Under Construction
    Irons - 2019 Cobra King Forged MB 5-GW KBS $-Taper 130X
    Sand Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 56.10 Versatile KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
    Lob Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 60.04 Widelow KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125 
    Putter - Tour Issue Odyssey Protype PT12
    


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    Swingspeed being higher on the iBlade is part of it, also.

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    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver:  Cobra King LTD, Aldila ProtoPype 80x, 43.5"
    3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
    3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, DGS400
    3-PW:  Mizuno MP-37, DGS300
    GW:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400
    SW:  Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300
    Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.25"
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Professional, or 50 Elite... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time

    Sometimes carry 1-SW Golden Ram Tour Grinds w/Dynamic S or 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, Precision 6.5
    Also sometimes swap in old school woods at top of bag, various Golden Ram, MacGregor, or Orlimar persimmons
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