Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[Tcann32]

What do you guys think of the cobra king forged mb? I loved the feel but couldn't try them with the Nippon pro modus in 120 X. I know a few people have bought and played them but I am having trouble finding reviews

 

I played them the first part of last season. Unfortunately their demise came about a month after the season started and I got my first set of Miura's. They were brand new and I couldn't justify having a brand new set of irons sitting around, not being used. They're great irons. Strip the paint and they look even better! They feel really good, are quite small, and a lot of fun to hit. Most underrated irons I've ever hit.

[Tcann32]

Had my first round of the year yesterday, which pretty much signifies my first round with almost everything in my bag, besides my iron heads, but they have been refinished and have new shafts in them (X7's), and man... what a combo that makes. All the hype would have you believe that they're a shaft that couldn't be swung by mere mortals. It only took one round for me to know they're the best shaft I have ever swung, adhered into the best iron heads I have swung as well, complete with some stitch-back leather grips. Outside of a little rust, I don't recall the last time I heard that sound (coming from myself) on contact so many times in a round. Ball flight was a mid-high draw, and I was fighting it a bit, but that'll work itself out. For the first round of the year, I'm just happy about good contact, and I'll figure out how to aim again eventually ;).

 

If only I could've remember how to hit my driver yesterday. For as good as I hit my irons, I hit my driver even worse. I struggled on the front with it, but kept it in play, and just lost it on the back. It was awful. Putting... took it with a grain of salt. Greens were still a bit furry and slow, yet oddly didn't hold a ton of spin on short shots.

[Sir Slicealot]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

[mahonie]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

 

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the UK in Europe...we use metric for weights and length in industry (Kgs, millimetres/metres) but imperial for longer distances (yards/miles). Not sure which way we will go after Brexit!!

 

Whisper this on Golfwrx...I was hitting 5-iron into a flag 130 yards away into the wind and coming up 20 yards short...PW 190 yards downwind though ;-)

[Sir Slicealot]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

 

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the UK in Europe...we use metric for weights and length in industry (Kgs, millimetres/metres) but imperial for longer distances (yards/miles). Not sure which way we will go after Brexit!!

 

Whisper this on Golfwrx...I was hitting 5-iron into a flag 130 yards away into the wind and coming up 20 yards short...PW 190 yards downwind though ;-)

Clearly you weren't swinging your five iron worth a hoot for you to lose 70-80 yards. I presume you hit the 5i close to 200 yards? About this PW...Assuming somewhere around 110-120...Just how much of a balloon did you hit? Or did we blade the sweet Jesus out of it with a tail breeze? That's difficult to fathom such gains and losses.

 

I must caution our readers that it's beyond the hour of impairment and I have been occupying a tee on the 19th hole for some time now. I apologise as my math and demeanor may well be askew.

[mahonie]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

 

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the UK in Europe...we use metric for weights and length in industry (Kgs, millimetres/metres) but imperial for longer distances (yards/miles). Not sure which way we will go after Brexit!!

 

Whisper this on Golfwrx...I was hitting 5-iron into a flag 130 yards away into the wind and coming up 20 yards short...PW 190 yards downwind though ;-)

Clearly you weren't swinging your five iron worth a hoot for you to lose 70-80 yards. I presume you hit the 5i close to 200 yards? About this PW...Assuming somewhere around 110-120...Just how much of a balloon did you hit? Or did we blade the sweet Jesus out of it with a tail breeze? That's difficult to fathom such gains and losses.

 

I must caution our readers that it's beyond the hour of impairment and I have been occupying a tee on the 19th hole for some time now. I apologise as my math and demeanor may well be askew.

 

Purely the effect of the wind...I hit a knockdown 5-iron which I thought was all over the flag but the wind just blew it back. The PW was intentionally hit high to ride the wind hence the massive carry...the Assistant Pro called it a 6-club wind and he wasn't far off! Hitting drives into the cross wind was something else...100 yard draw anyone? Any hint of sidespin was just exaggerated...great challenge and lots of fun.

[Sir Slicealot]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. I have a 1 iron and I don't give a d*** about the wind. I considered trying to get out on deck to hit the one into a fifty knot wind. I couldn't figure out how to keep the ball still long enough to hit it.

[Bigmean]

http://kyoeigolfclubs.com/

If you want to have a closer look at the Kyoei's. It is the new house brand of the Kyoei forging house. I really love them. Might be time to say goodbye to the 716mbs I have.

 

I like how the specs specify little to no bounce. TSG already has them on their site. Not as exaggerated as I thought they would have been.

From TSG's blog post: 5.5mm FP is near zero offset, while 6.0mm FP is also referred to as onset. Boy I need these in the raw black finish

 

Agreed. It has to happen. I must own a set :) they look too good not to own.

 

Pretty sexy clubs.....like these are about as hot as new blades get. I wish it showed a dead face view. My only beef with Kyoei is that they have not my favorite toe/face shapes. These are legit looking though, and more important, these reenergized new image and future products looks promising. I would love to turn to Kyoei for a CB set, I have been tempted by zestaim sets before, but this new design oozes sexiness and appeal. The zestaims are like the terminator of clubs.

[Sir Slicealot]

Enjoying some Bourbon and wine with a good friend here:

Absolutely nothing to do with blades, but that's a story book view.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Well I have been practicing with several long irons recently. I look like a small golf shop at the range. What I have found: Mizuno irons are the easiest to slap the heck out of and get results without feeling like you're magnum handgun hunting. I'm getting 250 yards out of a pured 1 iron strike. 2 is about 235. The funny thing is that the 3 iron for the MP-4 isn't far off. I'm starting to believe that the main difference is the flight trajectory and that I need to hit more balls to get to the physical state to really be able to achieve the 1 iron flight reliably.

The MacGregor and Dunlop heads just aren't juicing it as much in the 2's. Rams can hold similar distance as the Mizuno, but the rifle crack that is more common than not, I can live without. That KBS tour is probably going into my Fli-Hi II 21°

 

I'd really love to see what beautiful lines they'd come up with in the one and two irons for the MP-4. I am not really interested in the mph5 1 iron. That thing is a hybrid wannabe. Give me something to aspire to and master.

 

The Mizuno 2i is an MP-14, right? If so, it should have 20* of loft (IIRC), whereas the MP-4 3i has 21*. So if the 3i isn't far off the 2i, you're obviously doing something right because they're almost identical :D

 

And I agree that an MP-4 2i would be awesome, but I think the entire worldwide customer base could pretty much be found within the confines of this thread.

[Oldplayer]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

 

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the UK in Europe...we use metric for weights and length in industry (Kgs, millimetres/metres) but imperial for longer distances (yards/miles). Not sure which way we will go after Brexit!!

 

Whisper this on Golfwrx...I was hitting 5-iron into a flag 130 yards away into the wind and coming up 20 yards short...PW 190 yards downwind though ;-)

Clearly you weren't swinging your five iron worth a hoot for you to lose 70-80 yards. I presume you hit the 5i close to 200 yards? About this PW...Assuming somewhere around 110-120...Just how much of a balloon did you hit? Or did we blade the sweet Jesus out of it with a tail breeze? That's difficult to fathom such gains and losses.

 

I must caution our readers that it's beyond the hour of impairment and I have been occupying a tee on the 19th hole for some time now. I apologise as my math and demeanor may well be askew.

You see some players from the U.S. just do not have a handle on how strong the wind can blow (with apologies to those living in Tornado Alley).

I play a lot of coastal golf in Australia and some days I have hit driver to 140 meter par 3's and a 9 iron 180 meters downwind. That's how strong the wind can get. Sometimes virtually unplayable with the ball being blown off the greens.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

The confines of this thread is a pretty steady market though, NCN. And, those Kyoei look unbelievable. The website gives a decent backstory for the company too, if you care at all. Always found it funny how Kyoei and Miura are located across a river from one another. Small world.

 

Took out that set of Taylormade X300s (I know it's a blade users thread). Worst, god-forsaken game in a long time. Yet, I take away few positives.

 

First of all, as I sat in the train, on my way to the course, I decided I'd do one thing - Keep the ball in play. I play a short little par 70 with OB on either side of every fairway and the course itself is situated near a fairly big river in the middle of a plain with mountains just to the west, so wind city. If you keep the ball in play, you are going to have a good day.

 

Didn't take long for that game plan to go out the door. Two pull hook 3-woods on the third hole and a little one-zero later and it was all about getting to know the irons. I went off on the front nine with a fellow who helps with the junior program and one of his pupils, and that was nice, but the back nine I had the course to myself. I could hit a few balls from each spot and get some badly needed short game practice. Finally got my act together off the tee on the 18th. Striped 3 3woods in a row into the wind between 260-280, with one little change - more flex in the knees. If only I had someone to watch my game, stupid easy fix.

 

The FCIs launch the ball high. Higher than anything I've hit except maybe Ping Eye2. Into the wind they were damn near impossible to keep down. Don't know how Els won at Muirfield with them. Down wind they were decent. I am thinking with an x100 shaft they might be a nice set to take to Canada this summer. However, I have a set of DP30 (Japan version Australian Blades) that might take that spot.

 

I have one more game planned two weeks from now and after that probably going to have to work my a** off to pay for said vacation. Hopefully I can keep my game in half decent shape for Vancouver in July.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

http://kyoeigolfclubs.com/

If you want to have a closer look at the Kyoei's. It is the new house brand of the Kyoei forging house. I really love them. Might be time to say goodbye to the 716mbs I have.

 

Interesting. It looks like their KCM model as a base, but with some pretty aggressive grinding and different finishes. Nothing up on their Japanese website.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

C_T_S

What's the course like now? Last time I played (2 weeks ago), the course was still in bad shape from the rain, grass was sparse, and there was a ton of damage by wild boar. A friend who played a different course nearby said the same. The wild boar particularly are a real problem.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

I hit a low ball off the first tee that must've ran about 150 yards. Greens were firm and running at 9.6. It rained the night before, but there were only a couple wet patches. The wind dries everything out pretty quickly.

 

To be honest, I am not enjoy the course much anymore. I like courses with some trees framing the course. My ideal course is a place called Sandpiper GC just outside Vancouver BC in Harrison Mills. Just a great mix of holes and tall, tall trees.

 

This place I play at is short and tight with freakishly tricked up greens. If you aren't on it's a pretty frustrating walk. And, I am not on quite a lot these days.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

There's a course I used to like a lot near me that's got really tough greens. Very fast, even now when soft and wet, and massive amounts of break. What doesn't help is that the last couple of times I have played there, the pin positions have been in some of the toughest parts of the green, like a few paces on from the back on a small plateau, or just over the top of a ridge.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

There's a course I used to like a lot near me that's got really tough greens. Very fast, even now when soft and wet, and massive amounts of break. What doesn't help is that the last couple of times I have played there, the pin positions have been in some of the toughest parts of the green, like a few paces on from the back on a small plateau, or just over the top of a ridge.

 

I don't mind a little challenge like that, now and then. But, this place is getting in my head. It's getting so that I might not take anything higher than 2 iron. The trouble is I have a bag full of woods I really want to use, but the misses just damage the score so bad.

 

I might put together a wind bag.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

That's the thing. Now and again it may be OK, but right now I need a break from that particular course. But I still keep wanting to go back and prove I can post a decent score there...

Also, I have started avoiding ridiculously tight courses since an experience last year. Now, to be fair, my swing was all over the place--it was the day I started snap hooking--but there were also too many holes which went 15-yard wide fairway→5 yard wide rough→OB. Or just fairway→cart path→OB. Those courses are not a lot of fun to play. If it's cheap, that's a different matter, but if I can pay the same amount of money and play a course that doesn't penalize even a slightly off-line tee with OB, then I will play that instead.

[Jonesy]

although the wind was measured at a constant 31mph during Saturday and was blowing hard all four days.

 

MP-4s played their part, although my iron play was not at its best and wedges were ridiculously bad.

This fella is tops! Converting the wind speed into MPH for the Yanks! Of course he plays the proper clubs too...No wonder he did well!

 

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the UK in Europe...we use metric for weights and length in industry (Kgs, millimetres/metres) but imperial for longer distances (yards/miles). Not sure which way we will go after Brexit!!

 

Whisper this on Golfwrx...I was hitting 5-iron into a flag 130 yards away into the wind and coming up 20 yards short...PW 190 yards downwind though ;-)

Clearly you weren't swinging your five iron worth a hoot for you to lose 70-80 yards. I presume you hit the 5i close to 200 yards? About this PW...Assuming somewhere around 110-120...Just how much of a balloon did you hit? Or did we blade the sweet Jesus out of it with a tail breeze? That's difficult to fathom such gains and losses.

 

I must caution our readers that it's beyond the hour of impairment and I have been occupying a tee on the 19th hole for some time now. I apologise as my math and demeanor may well be askew.

You see some players from the U.S. just do not have a handle on how strong the wind can blow (with apologies to those living in Tornado Alley).

I play a lot of coastal golf in Australia and some days I have hit driver to 140 meter par 3's and a 9 iron 180 meters downwind. That's how strong the wind can get. Sometimes virtually unplayable with the ball being blown off the greens.

 

I've pured a 6 iron on 110m (120 yards?) par 3's a few times when the wind picks up here, I couldn't imagine hitting driver 140m!

 

Scottburgh golf course here has a 279m (305 yards?) par 4 which I've hit 3 iron, 3 iron, SW on into an absolute gale. It's good fun but as soon as you start fighting it man can it get ugly...

[craz-e]

I have been offered a chance to pick up a nice set of MP4's for a very reasonable $200 (Australian dollars)

Trouble is they have c-taper shafts fitted, took them for a spin tonight but I really dislike those shafts.

 

Still weighing up the potential purchase and reshafting them

[Christen_The_Sloop]

That's the thing. Now and again it may be OK, but right now I need a break from that particular course. But I still keep wanting to go back and prove I can post a decent score there...

Also, I have started avoiding ridiculously tight courses since an experience last year. Now, to be fair, my swing was all over the place--it was the day I started snap hooking--but there were also too many holes which went 15-yard wide fairway→5 yard wide rough→OB. Or just fairway→cart path→OB. Those courses are not a lot of fun to play. If it's cheap, that's a different matter, but if I can pay the same amount of money and play a course that doesn't penalize even a slightly off-line tee with OB, then I will play that instead.

 

They have a thing for OB over here that's just ridiculous. My home course growing up ( a little 9 hole number) had OB down the right side on the first four holes. You could always bail left into the trees and make a score. Here there's just nothing. Just perfect white stakes and all their scorecard darkness. The slightest miscue and it's reload time. On one hand it's aggravating as hell, but on the other, it does force you to be perfect, just let go of any worry about the result... Who am I kidding? It's stupid.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

That's the thing. Now and again it may be OK, but right now I need a break from that particular course. But I still keep wanting to go back and prove I can post a decent score there...

Also, I have started avoiding ridiculously tight courses since an experience last year. Now, to be fair, my swing was all over the place--it was the day I started snap hooking--but there were also too many holes which went 15-yard wide fairway→5 yard wide rough→OB. Or just fairway→cart path→OB. Those courses are not a lot of fun to play. If it's cheap, that's a different matter, but if I can pay the same amount of money and play a course that doesn't penalize even a slightly off-line tee with OB, then I will play that instead.

 

They have a thing for OB over here that's just ridiculous. My home course growing up ( a little 9 hole number) had OB down the right side on the first four holes. You could always bail left into the trees and make a score. Here there's just nothing. Just perfect white stakes and all their scorecard darkness. The slightest miscue and it's reload time. On one hand it's aggravating as hell, but on the other, it does force you to be perfect, just let go of any worry about the result... Who am I kidding? It's stupid.

 

Yep, the in-course OB over here is especially over the top. Sometimes, I can understand it when it's a ravine or completely overgrown forest where you're not going to find your ball, but I've played so many courses which have internal OB in places just because they can. My theory is that originally it was done to speed up the pace of play, but it doesn't encourage big hitters, that's for sure.

It would be alright if it were just a hole or two, but when it's every damn hole, it just takes the fun out it. We're not talking massively wild shots, just a bit of an overcooked fade or draw an bam! OB, 2 shot penalty.

So I try to avoid courses like that now.

[Sir Slicealot]

 

You see some players from the U.S. just do not have a handle on how strong the wind can blow (with apologies to those living in Tornado Alley).

I play a lot of coastal golf in Australia and some days I have hit driver to 140 meter par 3's and a 9 iron 180 meters downwind. That's how strong the wind can get. Sometimes virtually unplayable with the ball being blown off the greens.

I was teasing him just a little bit there. That's a hard sell to get me to play golf in that wind. As for not having a handle on how hard the wind can blow...wrong guy here. I work at sea where 40 knots can be the daily average for days in winter.

 

The Mizuno 2i is an MP-14, right? If so, it should have 20* of loft (IIRC), whereas the MP-4 3i has 21*. So if the 3i isn't far off the 2i, you're obviously doing something right because they're almost identical :D

 

And I agree that an MP-4 2i would be awesome, but I think the entire worldwide customer base could pretty much be found within the confines of this thread.

Thanks for the sanity save NCN! I was really wondering. Thought I was completely out of gas and everything was running the same distance.

 

You're supposed to agree about the one iron too!!!?

 

That's very disappointing about the 14's. Should've done more research. As of now a standing trade for 29's is in effect immediately. If anyone has a 1&2 MP-29 and would like to trade let me know.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Thanks for the sanity save NCN! I was really wondering. Thought I was completely out of gas and everything was running the same distance.

 

You're supposed to agree about the one iron too!!!

 

That's very disappointing about the 14's. Should've done more research. As of now a standing trade for 29's is in effect immediately. If anyone has a 1&2 MP-29 and would like to trade let me know.

 

Well, 20* for a 2i isn't exactly PW country....

Going by loft progression, an MP-4 1i would have about 15 or 16* of loft...no thanks! At the range I practice, the range rocks are "low flight" (i.e. very low spin) balls; I would not be able hit that 1i more than 6ft in the air, and it would likely drop out of the sky before my 6i. That's not going to give me a lot of confidence when I take it to a course!

[Sir Slicealot]

Well, 20* for a 2i isn't exactly PW country....

Going by loft progression, an MP-4 1i would have about 15 or 16* of loft...no thanks! At the range I practice, the range rocks are "low flight" (i.e. very low spin) balls; I would not be able hit that 1i more than 6ft in the air, and it would likely drop out of the sky before my 6i. That's not going to give me a lot of confidence when I take it to a course!

It would be exactly 15° and 18°! No funny business with the lofts please. A 1 iron is 15° in my fantasy world. If I wanted assistance I'd have a bag full of Heavenwoods, 14° drivers, hybrid this 'n' thats, more wedges than a shoe store, and a 7-PW set of UGIs. LOL!

 

My 29 1i gets about 25 feet high and goes 250 when you crank it using Pinnacle practice balls. It can be done with range balls because this goofball excuse for a golfer has done it. It takes work to be reliable with this club and I like that fact.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Well, 20* for a 2i isn't exactly PW country....

Going by loft progression, an MP-4 1i would have about 15 or 16* of loft...no thanks! At the range I practice, the range rocks are "low flight" (i.e. very low spin) balls; I would not be able hit that 1i more than 6ft in the air, and it would likely drop out of the sky before my 6i. That's not going to give me a lot of confidence when I take it to a course!

It would be exactly 15° and 18°! No funny business with the lofts please. A 1 iron is 15° in my fantasy world. If I wanted assistance I'd have a bag full of Heavenwoods, 14° drivers, hybrid this 'n' thats, more wedges than a shoe store, and a 7-PW set of UGIs. LOL!

 

My 29 1i gets about 25 feet high and goes 250 when you crank it using Pinnacle practice balls. It can be done with range balls because this goofball excuse for a golfer has done it. It takes work to be reliable with this club and I like that fact.

 

Pinnacle? Luxury!

Seriously, the balls where I go most morning to practice are, well, balls. I probably can't hit a 1i 250 anymore, anyway, but I would expect 230 out it (that's what my 7w does). But with these balls, I would get about 190, same as my 6i or 5i. It gets a bit better in summer when the balls are warmer.

[Sir Slicealot]

That is frustration defined right there. You are swinging stouter shafts than I am though. Missing out on that 3&4 iron though. I hope I never need them that stiff. With my on/off golf schedule due to work, I'd have a bear of a time staying in shape for them.

[Bigmean]

Golf is so annoying. Played in that scramble on Monday....first 9 holes looked like I was on pace to shoot 85 if solo. We used a few itons and drives of mine and I made a couple putts for us, but my bad shots were bad (topped hybrid anyone?). So I did what anyone would do and started pounding the free beers. I wound up carrying the team at the end, and in addition to putting last and making a nice birdie almost single handedly birdied 3 of the last 4 and we came in 3rd by a shot.

 

Seriously I think maybe I should just stop trying to score well and caring about a handicap or what I shoot and just enjoy the fact I am on a course. A positive takeaway was only duck hooked one drive and felt actually ok about the big dog. There was a lot of wind and surprisingly flights my driver well to go low into it and high with it. I almost wonder if the lack of stress of needing to put a ball in play allows for a much freer swing. I don't feel stress per say when playing, but it is underlying and ever present.

[PixlPutterman]

Just scored a set of Vapor Pro's with Modus3's for $230. Cant wait to test them against my 690's

[Kingcat990]

Golf is so annoying. Played in that scramble on Monday....first 9 holes looked like I was on pace to shoot 85 if solo. We used a few itons and drives of mine and I made a couple putts for us, but my bad shots were bad (topped hybrid anyone?). So I did what anyone would do and started pounding the free beers. I wound up carrying the team at the end, and in addition to putting last and making a nice birdie almost single handedly birdied 3 of the last 4 and we came in 3rd by a shot.

 

Seriously I think maybe I should just stop trying to score well and caring about a handicap or what I shoot and just enjoy the fact I am on a course. A positive takeaway was only duck hooked one drive and felt actually ok about the big dog. There was a lot of wind and surprisingly flights my driver well to go low into it and high with it. I almost wonder if the lack of stress of needing to put a ball in play allows for a much freer swing. I don't feel stress per say when playing, but it is underlying and ever present.

 

Of all the turd burglar'd shots I shoot, the topped hybrid is by far the absolute most annoying of the bunch. I forget I have a hybrid in my hand and sweep it like a wood. Always fails. When I hit down on a hybrid like a 3i, I always get success.

 

Scrambles are the types of events you're supposed to drink beer at Big :) lean on your teammate's from time to time.