Official WRX Gear Trials Event Thread: Results are in and Data live- Page 27

[PeanutsDaddy]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

Please don't feed the monkeys! ;)

 

I come from a nation of lumberjacks.

[Zach Heusser]

One of my former players is the Cobra rep in Hawaii. After following this thread it sounds like he's going to have a big year ?

[Sean2]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

[Nelly32]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

 

There wasn't one "ideal" number for launch and spin based on swing speed. It was based on several factors, such as attack angle, launch angle, smash, etc

[swizbeatz]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

 

Everyone's different. If you want to know how to hit the longest drive at a certain SS play around on flightscope optimizer.

[knudson81]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

[GolfSINC]

For the past 3 hours I've read this entire thread. So much information is packed in here. I'm so envious of all those that got to run through this gauntlet. I can't wait to read specific data.

 

Being here in Alaska and really taking a seriousness to this game over the past two years had taught me two things that could be reiterated in this one thread.

 

1. You need solid numbers to better yourself at this game. More than just distance.

 

2. Without a proper fitting for clubs, you'll always be leaving yardage behind.

 

Thanks for all the great reads, if this happens again, I'll be sure that I don't miss it.

[ladahl]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

I'm a buyer.

[Stuart_G]

Did anyone get to hit the tee ex9 tour head?? Was hoping to see something on that, love 440cc drivers

 

It was definitely one of the heads available but can't say how many people ended up trying it. I did but not one of the ones that worked out for me. Can't remember the exact reason why other than I was not nearly as consistent with it as I was with the non tour EX9. For me, that usually meant too light or too open faced.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

 

This should give you a good baseline. Simply multiply your SS x Smash factor to get the ball speed that's relevant for you, and plot the best area based on the graphs below.

 

 

[Medic]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

 

Sean, this was one of the most amazing things about the fitting process. There is SO much science behind it and all of the numbers have an important meaning to the fitter. Our fitter in the "A" group, Brian, was incredible. The man could look at the numbers and make slight adjustments. "Jim, we need a little more loft but we also need a little less flex but not much. Let's try this driver one more degree up but with this shaft."

 

And thus he slowly dialed in. While my gamer shaft was REALLY close to ideal for me it turned out that there was indeed a better one. When you see the final results be sure to look at some important factors:

 

Smash factor

Dispersion

Carry

Total

 

The shaft that I was hitting the best was the Kuro Kage 60S and when you see the dispersion it was amazing - a tight little circle out around 240 or so. My shaft on my gamer was putting out a sort of an oblong shaped dispersion pattern. That Kuro Kage on the Srixon, for me, was a deadly combo of nice distance, tight dispersion, and a beautiful flight that was quite literally by design. Brian told me his goals for my ball flight and the man kept having me try different combinations until he met his goal.

 

There is NO way anyone could possibly get these sorts of results without getting this kind of a fitting. It takes some really incredibly powerful equipment, people capable of analyzing all of the data being collected, and availability of the equipment to make the most of the whole process. This is what really made Miles of Golf so special because they literally had it all. Brian was using all of the data coming in to dial in the perfect combinations for me in order to essentially take what I was doing with a club and make the absolute most of it.

 

Years ago I was taking an MS Excel Course. I will never forget one of the things the instructor told us. "Most people get comfortable with the MS programs and only use about 30 or 40% of the real capabilities of the software."

This quote applies here too, Sean. I was drifting through my golf life believing that I was getting as much out as I could. I had been fitted albeit with video equipment and trial/error. But I honestly thought that my distance and accuracy were where they needed to be - where they could be; I was at max potential. But in reality I was only getting some of that potential from each swing - not all of it. "You don't know what you don't know" truly applies.

 

I have a feeling that lots of members out there will net a benefit from Richard's vision in making this whole thing possible. Because they will realize that all 15 of us were just regular guys who came together and came face to face with what might be. And it was something many of us did not even realize was there, in the background, waiting to be brought out. This coming weekend I will be using the information on the course for the first time. And almost certainly in the future I will be adding a 355 to my bag to get even more out of my potential. I now know what I didn't before - and I am going to take full advantage of what I learned about my game!

 

Hope this helps buddy. Can't help but wonder how many members out there are leaving yards, accuracy, and lower scores on the table.

 

Jim

[bruinsPATSirish]

What was determined to be the ideal launch angle and spin rate based on swing speed?

 

For example, 90 - 95 what was the ideal launch angle and spin rate? 96 - 100? 101- 105, etc.?

 

This should give you a good baseline. Simply multiply your SS x Smash factor to get the ball speed that's relevant for you, and plot the best area based on the graphs below.

 

 

 

What about 168mph ball speed? ?

[randywildman]

Thx for the thread. Great info so far looking forward to more results.

[G-Bone]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

Ok... Ok... Ok

 

If Easyyy makes some, I'll sport one. Geezzz :victory:

[hayzooos]

WIll there be a final tally with ranking associated with this testing? I like reading the thread but a finally tally and scoring would be useful.

 

There will be, we just don't know how it's going to be presented yet. The staff may not quite know yet. We were throwing out all kinds of ideas at the dinner table Saturday night to try and give the best presentation possible. Two things to note here:

 

1. This is just my assumption based on bits and pieces I overheard throughout the day....I'm hoping for some sort of interactive chart or table. So many guys want to narrow things down by swing speed, but as we all know, and what was proven this past weekend, that's only a starting point, and a marginal one at that. After seeing guys with vastly different angles of attack, I think that might have more to do with launch conditions than anything else. I'm thinking an interactive chart where you can narrow it down by swing speed, angle of attack, maybe another metric or two. This will provide the whole site access to everything we collected, but that's a HUGE amount of data. I'm hoping for more than just a handful of hoola hoops in a Trackman printout. It's a lot to take on, so the staff needs to balance function with timing. Honestly, how many guys would come back and review this if those results aren't available until May? It takes time to build those things, so I'm excited to see what they come up with.

 

2. One idea we were throwing around at dinner was an olympic style medal count. Maybe even weight it. As in, Cobra got 3 gold medals, 4 silvers, and 1 bronze. I just made those up, as an example, so they'd have a medal count of 8. Is that leading? I'm not sure, we'll have to wait and see. Then if they weighted the results, maybe Cobra would end up with 14 points or something like that. Just some ideas we were tossing around.

 

Did you ever hit the HZRDUS Black during your testing of the LTD Pro and, if so, could you compare to the Agera? I loved my Rome 688 in a SLDR last year but it broke at the adapter and I never replaced it...I like playing a little shorter as well (closer to 44.5-44.25") and figured the Agera would give me a little more weight for a shorter build as opposed to another Rome. I've currently got a LTD Pro/HZRDUS Black 65X combo in the bag after a fitting but loved the feel of the Rome last year and wanted to tinker. Thanks for the awesome feedback so far as well.

 

Hey! You're in Milwaukee, I'm in your neck of the woods this week and next as a matter of fact.

 

No HZRDUS Black (or yellow, or red) for this guy. Not sure why fitter didn't have me try them, but I'm guessing he knew they weren't going to work. I can say this without question though...if you like the 688 Rome, you'll love the Agera. Profiles are extremely similar, feel is going to be really close too. Let me put it this way...the Agera is like a 70g version of the Rome in a lot of aspects. I was *this* close to buying a Rome 888 to use in my driver until ROBOPTI let me know his Agera was going to be coming out shortly when I was looking to build a 44.0" driver. So the un-WRX in me actually waited, and obviously I'm glad I did. I first had it in an i25 but it wasn't quite as straight as I wanted. I hit some bombs with it, but I was looking for something more forgiving which I found in the XR, but knudson had to jam like 10g of hotmelt in the thing for me and that's what I was playing the majority of last year.

 

I'm already talking to ROBOPTI about the LTD Pro with an Agera, I just need to see the final specs from MOG on how exactly it was set up and I'll have it in the bag. I'm 95% sure I know what they were, but I want to be certain.

 

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

I support this initiative, FULLY.

[easyyy]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

Ok... Ok... Ok

 

If Easyyy makes some, I'll sport one. Geezzz :victory:

 

Done

[hayzooos]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

Ok... Ok... Ok

 

If Easyyy makes some, I'll sport one. Geezzz :victory:

 

Done

 

AND THE PATRONS REJOICE

[easyyy]

Ohh Brian is freakin hilarious. We were just going back and forth all day. At one point he went off claiming he was a wood builder/cabenet maker. We need a saying or a phrase for this shirt...

 

"Hammered"

"Cuttin wood"

 

or just "WRX" under the bearded head shot.

[G-Bone]

Ohh Brian is freakin hilarious. We were just going back and forth all day. At one point he went off claiming he was a wood builder/cabenet maker. We need a saying or a phrase for this shirt...

 

"Hammered"

"Cuttin wood"

 

or just "WRX" under the bearded head shot.

 

I believe at one point he also offered to change the oil in your car... Let's not leave that out.

[G-Bone]

Ohh Brian is freakin hilarious. We were just going back and forth all day. At one point he went off claiming he was a wood builder/cabenet maker. We need a saying or a phrase for this shirt...

 

"Hammered"

"Cuttin wood"

 

or just "WRX" under the bearded head shot.

 

Chuck'n Wood

 

Hammer Time

[bruinsPATSirish]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

Ok... Ok... Ok

 

If Easyyy makes some, I'll sport one. Geezzz :victory:

 

Done

 

XL for me

[itw419]

Ohh Brian is freakin hilarious. We were just going back and forth all day. At one point he went off claiming he was a wood builder/cabenet maker. We need a saying or a phrase for this shirt...

 

"Hammered"

"Cuttin wood"

 

or just "WRX" under the bearded head shot.

 

"Making Sawdust"

" Dovetail Jointer"

"Planed to Perfection"

 

Or just WRX under his picture on the front with Brian's new avatar small on the back check area of the shirt.

 

I'll take a medium.

[PeanutsDaddy]

Thank you for taking my post seriously gents.

 

I'd like a large 'bearded bomber'.

 

I vote for Knudson's avatar on the front, left breast. Slogan under the avatar or on the back of the neck.

[Medic]

A confession . . . I'd be more than willing to purchase a WRX shirt with Knudson's likeness on the front. That beard is epic.

 

This needs to happen! Easyyy, add it to 2016 Swag Catalog

 

Ok... Ok... Ok

 

If Easyyy makes some, I'll sport one. Geezzz :victory:

 

Done

 

XL for me

 

Ditto.....

[Medic]

I thought he said he was from Duck Dynasty.

[G-Bone]

Thank you for taking my post seriously gents.

 

I'd like a large 'bearded bomber'.

 

I vote for Knudson's avatar on the front, left breast. Slogan under the avatar or on the back of the neck.

 

It must say "The Knudson" somewhere on the garmit, it just must.

[nitram]

"Bringin' the wood"

[scottaz]

you're going to have to explain for months/years to newbies, or those who didn't follow this thread, why you have those bearded dude t-shirts in the swag store. hope they sell out fast for your sake. :taunt:

[knudson81]

GolfWRX

"This ain't your daddy's Hickory."

 

[The Beav]

A ton of ADDI 7x love in those results. What swing speeds were you guys at for that shaft to be a great fit? I'm at 103ish and just never considered an 'x' flex.