Serious question about Speith hitting from the range

[4Par]

The driving range at my course is behind the 9th green and adjacent to the 10th hole....... it doesn't get a lot of play but it's not Out of Bounds.

[North Texas]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Well, his ball was in grass. I'm not sure why he dropped. Maybe TV camera lens doesn't do the sand dune's bank justice.

 

You're not sure why he dropped? Really?

 

Can you tell me?

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

[ConcentricDimples]

 

 

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

[Krt22]

You can take an unplayable whenever you want, you could be in the middle of the fairway and take one if you so pleased.

[mwkbmw]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

It doesn't matter what made it unplayable. You are entitled to take an unplayable lie penalty ANYWHERE, even on the putting green with the ball sitting on the lip, if you wish.

 

Edit: Krt22, you're too fast for me!

[DavePelz4]

 

Maybe he was just trying to get some extra extra air time for his club manufacturer, Titleist.

[Kenny Lee Puckett]

 

Maybe he was just trying to get some extra extra air time for his club manufacturer, Titleist.

lol, and Dave what would the angle be on that one? "Titleist, the #1 leading offline driver on Tour."

[ray9898]

 

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

LOL....I can't wait to see how you spin this.

[drn92]

Two courses I play regularly have the range bordering holes on the course (between the 9th and 10th holes). The range is not out of bounds on either course. You have to be pretty far off line to get to the range, but if you find your ball you can play it.

 

I am not a fan of "internal" out of bounds markers on a course. On these courses I am tempted to play a different color ball on those two holes just in case I get a little wild.

 

drn92

[avrag]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

According to the British on-course commentator, who was with him, it was impossible to play from that lie, because the slope was so steep that quote "He can't hit a shot, he can't even swing the club while standing where he'd have to stand. And it is so steep that he could only hit the ball straight up into the air, so it would land in the gorse bushes 40 yards ahead of him"

 

Hope this answers your question.

[mwkbmw]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

According to the British on-course commentator, who was with him, it was impossible to play from that lie, because the slope was so steep that quote "He can't hit a shot, he can't even swing the club while standing where he'd have to stand. And it is so steep that he could only hit the ball straight up into the air, so it would land in the gorse bushes 40 yards ahead of him"

 

Hope this answers your question.

 

I don't think he really wanted an answer. But, that was a very good one, though.

[North Texas]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

According to the British on-course commentator, who was with him, it was impossible to play from that lie, because the slope was so steep that quote "He can't hit a shot, he can't even swing the club while standing where he'd have to stand. And it is so steep that he could only hit the ball straight up into the air, so it would land in the gorse bushes 40 yards ahead of him"

 

Hope this answers your question.

 

Based on his posting history, it will not answer his question. I can almost guarantee you that.

[North Texas]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

Pretty simple. The player declaring his ball unplayable made it unplayable.

 

What is it that you are not getting? You seem to be on a different thought pattern than the rest of us. And, in case you are wondering, that's not a compliment.

[widow-maker]

They could have made it OB pretty easily. All it would have taken is some white stakes. They didn't. He dropped his ball where the rules allowed him to. He did have to take a penalty stroke and he also gave up quite a bit of distance, so in essence, it was a stroke and distance penalty.

[mizuno player]

I played a tournament at a club near me. First hole hit my tee ball about 20 yards right of the fairway. Into the driving range. To my surprise it was in play. Nice!

Made par.

[ConcentricDimples]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

According to the British on-course commentator, who was with him, it was impossible to play from that lie, because the slope was so steep that quote "He can't hit a shot, he can't even swing the club while standing where he'd have to stand. And it is so steep that he could only hit the ball straight up into the air, so it would land in the gorse bushes 40 yards ahead of him"

 

Hope this answers your question.

 

I don't think he really wanted an answer. But, that was a very good one, though.

 

Actually I did.

[ConcentricDimples]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

Pretty simple. The player declaring his ball unplayable made it unplayable.

 

What is it that you are not getting? You seem to be on a different thought pattern than the rest of us. And, in case you are wondering, that's not a compliment.

 

You said I don't know why he moved his ball to the range. Come to find out you thought I didn't know he took an unplayable. You thought wrong.

[DavePelz4]

 

Maybe he was just trying to get some extra extra air time for his club manufacturer, Titleist.

lol, and Dave what would the angle be on that one? "Titleist, the #1 leading offline driver on Tour."

 

They nicely framed "The #1 Putter on Tour" which is why he waited until the back 9 to fire that #1 ranked ball in the world off the planet.

[buckeyefl]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

Pretty simple. The player declaring his ball unplayable made it unplayable.

 

What is it that you are not getting? You seem to be on a different thought pattern than the rest of us. And, in case you are wondering, that's not a compliment.

 

You said I don't know why he moved his ball to the range. Come to find out you thought I didn't know he took an unplayable. You thought wrong.

 

And yet from your posts it appears you dont understand the unplayable ball rule. Maybe you stell everyone why it was unplayable and why he was able to play from where he did so it can be determined if you are arrogant, ignorant, a troll or simply wanting to argue.

[Ryan-M-PGA]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

[ConcentricDimples]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

Pretty simple. The player declaring his ball unplayable made it unplayable.

 

What is it that you are not getting? You seem to be on a different thought pattern than the rest of us. And, in case you are wondering, that's not a compliment.

 

You said I don't know why he moved his ball to the range. Come to find out you thought I didn't know he took an unplayable. You thought wrong.

 

And yet from your posts it appears you dont understand the unplayable ball rule. Maybe you stell everyone why it was unplayable and why he was able to play from where he did so it can be determined if you are arrogant, ignorant, a troll or simply wanting to argue.

 

Who the ---- do you think you are?

 

I understand the unplayable ball rule.

 

 

Only several people in this thread exhibit both expressive and receptive English language skills, and you are not one of them.

 

I do however wish you well.

 

 

[Krt22]

For me, I think if he'd have played his ball he actually would have had a better chance at par.

 

For that reason, it does not bother me.

 

If he had gone from a bush to manicured grass, maybe it would.

 

 

TBH, I think he had the tournament since Thursday, so don't think it would have mattered.

 

 

He took an unplayable lie penalty and dropped in a closely mown area. Isn't that pretty close to "from a bush to manicured grass"?

 

To the OP: the driving range isn't in play off the tee. There was no danger of any player hitting it there and it took a massively offline shot to get the unplayable drop to get there. I doubt it even crossed anyone's mind to mark it OB.

 

Unless this is a trick question, I'm going to say that he had an unplayable lie. Seems pretty obvious to me and just a whole lot of other people. But I guess not you?

 

He had an UNPLAYABLE lie? He took an unplayable, so that's some riveting stuff right there.

 

What about his lie sir ifivally made it unplayable? Do you know? If so please share

 

According to the British on-course commentator, who was with him, it was impossible to play from that lie, because the slope was so steep that quote "He can't hit a shot, he can't even swing the club while standing where he'd have to stand. And it is so steep that he could only hit the ball straight up into the air, so it would land in the gorse bushes 40 yards ahead of him"

 

Hope this answers your question.

 

Doesn't matter if it answers his question or not, you don't need to justify yourself if you choose to take the penalty. He took it, got relief from a TIO, took his drop, got up and down for bogey. /Thread

[stu_man]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

 

Congrats! You have so far reached the furthest of any hater..

[b.helts]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

 

The two are not mutually exclusive. You are mistaken.

[widow-maker]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

Apparently they can. Unless you know more than the R&A about the rules.

[games]

 

Maybe you stell everyone why it was unplayable and why he was able to play from where he did so it can be determined if you are arrogant, ignorant, a troll or simply wanting to argue.

 

Wow. Pot calling Kettle! Hello Kettle! Still looking for ticks on Wisconsin farmland, chief? What a DB...

[scores]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

Wow that is a great point.

[xjohnx]

Players are not permitted to practice on the course before the round. The area to the right of the 13th can't be a practice ground and an integral part of the course it has to be one or the other!

 

By that logic you can't play a shot from any adjacent hole that you haven't played yet during that round.

[xjohnx]

Was there an updated rule on the proposed 2019 list that I missed that says rules are up for interpretation based on golfwrx opinion?

[RickK]

My only question is, do you those think it should be OB think that Seve should never have been allowed to hit that ball from the parking lot either?

 

It really does not matter what any of us think. The Tournament Committee is charged with how the course is setup. As it was, they decided before the tournament started to add some internal OB. But, they elected to not make the range where Spieth hit from OB. Everyone played the course the way they had it setup.

As far as Seve hitting from the car park...in subsequent Open Championships, was that area marked as OB? I honestly do not know myself. In the future, the range at Royal Birkdale may be marked as OB. But for the 2017 Championship...it was not and Spieth was able to hit from there. Case closed.