New TM UDI

[spartan6910]

I'm excited for that Lo. Looking for something to replace my current 2i.

[TheMoneyShot]

I like the p790, but the weight port is a big upgrade. Why did they have to add that blue/green color?

 

I hate the color too which is why mine will get chromed/satined out....

[TollBros]

i don't see how any of the GAPR irons will be more beneficial to me than the P790 3i has been at the top of my bag.

 

they're fatter on the sole, adjustable (tends to feel worse to me) and otherwise look 'clunkier' at address.

 

yea that's a no for me dog.

 

It's pretty much the same as the old UDI that we play. The mid launch is better for mid caps but if you like the old UDI there isn't much reason to switch. You can adjust loft with it assuming you don't have anyone to bend irons. That's something I suppose a lot of people might find convenient.

[fox_todd]

i don't see how any of the GAPR irons will be more beneficial to me than the P790 3i has been at the top of my bag.

 

they're fatter on the sole, adjustable (tends to feel worse to me) and otherwise look 'clunkier' at address.

 

yea that's a no for me dog.

 

It's pretty much the same as the old UDI that we play. The mid launch is better for mid caps but if you like the old UDI there isn't much reason to switch. You can adjust loft with it assuming you don't have anyone to bend irons. That's something I suppose a lot of people might find convenient.

 

I would love to see/hear that comparison of the older UDI to a p790 non UDI 3 irons.

[gioguy21]

i don't see how any of the GAPR irons will be more beneficial to me than the P790 3i has been at the top of my bag.

 

they're fatter on the sole, adjustable (tends to feel worse to me) and otherwise look 'clunkier' at address.

 

yea that's a no for me dog.

 

It's pretty much the same as the old UDI that we play. The mid launch is better for mid caps but if you like the old UDI there isn't much reason to switch. You can adjust loft with it assuming you don't have anyone to bend irons. That's something I suppose a lot of people might find convenient.

 

I would love to see/hear that comparison of the older UDI to a p790 non UDI 3 irons.

 

i gamed an older TP 3 Udi and currently game a P790, Non-UDI 3i -- i got more consistency, better feel and overall better performance with the P790 3i, with the same shaft.

[jacobEDGE]

The P790 3 Iron is just a standard 3 iron within the set though. There's nothing "UDI" about it.

[gibbiesmalls]

There is also a glued hosel Tour version of the GAPR Lo 2 iron that has 18* of loft. Here are a couple of them being tested for The Open this week.

 

Big turnoff to see all the nicks and paint already wearing off on it. And they've only begun testing it. Wonder how that will look after just half a season of use.

[fox_todd]

i don't see how any of the GAPR irons will be more beneficial to me than the P790 3i has been at the top of my bag.

 

they're fatter on the sole, adjustable (tends to feel worse to me) and otherwise look 'clunkier' at address.

 

yea that's a no for me dog.

 

It's pretty much the same as the old UDI that we play. The mid launch is better for mid caps but if you like the old UDI there isn't much reason to switch. You can adjust loft with it assuming you don't have anyone to bend irons. That's something I suppose a lot of people might find convenient.

 

I would love to see/hear that comparison of the older UDI to a p790 non UDI 3 irons.

 

i gamed an older TP 3 Udi and currently game a P790, Non-UDI 3i -- i got more consistency, better feel and overall better performance with the P790 3i, with the same shaft.

 

Good info. Thank you!

[jokerusn]

i don't see how any of the GAPR irons will be more beneficial to me than the P790 3i has been at the top of my bag.

 

they're fatter on the sole, adjustable (tends to feel worse to me) and otherwise look 'clunkier' at address.

 

yea that's a no for me dog.

 

It's pretty much the same as the old UDI that we play. The mid launch is better for mid caps but if you like the old UDI there isn't much reason to switch. You can adjust loft with it assuming you don't have anyone to bend irons. That's something I suppose a lot of people might find convenient.

 

I would love to see/hear that comparison of the older UDI to a p790 non UDI 3 irons.

 

i gamed an older TP 3 Udi and currently game a P790, Non-UDI 3i -- i got more consistency, better feel and overall better performance with the P790 3i, with the same shaft.

 

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

The P790 3 Iron is just a standard 3 iron within the set though. There's nothing "UDI" about it.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

[gioguy21]

 

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

[chch3]

Tensei white hybrid has been awesome in my UDI 2 iron. I was hitting bombs with it yesterday at the range. I am going to have to crank down the loft of my fairway wood to work out my gapping in the top of my bag.

[jokerusn]

 

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

 

I've got a KBS TGI 100 In there now and a TGI 95 in the UDI 3. (Got them before they realized they under charged for it). They are some good shafts (and not too pricey). VERY stable and you can get it to do just about anything including low bullets or high drop and stop. I also have a VC8.8TS with rescue tip I'm itching to try in the GAPR Lo

[fox_todd]

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

 

Thoughts on building just like rest of irons, instead of hybrid shaft? Pros/cons?

[gioguy21]

I built it based on my use, not based on the 'set' mentality. I wanted it lighter overall but with a stiffer shaft to handle aggressive swings, low launch and low spin.

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

 

Thoughts on building just like rest of irons, instead of hybrid shaft? Pros/cons?

[fox_todd]

I built it based on my use, not based on the 'set' mentality. I wanted it lighter overall but with a stiffer shaft to handle aggressive swings, low launch and low spin.

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

 

Thoughts on building just like rest of irons, instead of hybrid shaft? Pros/cons?

 

Makes sense. Thanks for the replies. Good info.

[jacobEDGE]

Tensei white hybrid has been awesome in my UDI 2 iron. I was hitting bombs with it yesterday at the range. I am going to have to crank down the loft of my fairway wood to work out my gapping in the top of my bag.

 

I see so many people praising that shaft. I just wish they made the 100g model in a Stiff. I don't have the swing speed for TX. And I'd want something heavier than the 89g "90 Stiff" version.

[jokerusn]

I found the P790 3i to be the same as you. Trying to work out the top of my bag but I really like the 790 3i. Not sure of the shaft yet.

 

If you haven't it it, you should. It's very much a DI and pretty U too.

 

I think if you went with a KBS proto hybrid or the tensei pro white -- you'd be happy.

 

and you're right, even tho it's a 'stock' 3i...it's pretty darn ultimate lol

 

Thoughts on building just like rest of irons, instead of hybrid shaft? Pros/cons?

 

One of the pros at my club has the P790 from 3-P and all the same setup. He isn't using it as a driving iron, just a regular 3i and has just the most buttery smooth swing. Ball takes off on the same trajectory every time.

[J13]

For those who want to stick with the 790 2 iron i'm hearing almost every player on tour is jumping to the GAPR for increase MOI and ballspeed. I'm also hearing it's much better from the turf. This is a true driving iron whereas the 790 2 iron was a filler until this was ready.

 

you do realise it is a P790 iron which are very easy to hit, very long and forgiving.

 

I have had mine a month, hit it two times from the fairway - 290 downwind, Scottish links onto green. 245 Carry and stop, Houston weird soft grass.

 

I even hit one missing the grooves on the toe off the tee and it still went straight 220(links in Scotland, home course) I was shocked and sold then.

 

The new one might perform but it looks less like an Iron and there are lots very happy with the p790 UDI.

 

Defensive much? I'm passing along the info i got from a friend in the tour van circles. TM guys almost unanimously bailed on the 790 UDI for the GAPR because it's literally better in every category. Again not my opinion just what i'm told and by the looks of it the information is very accurate.

[jacobEDGE]

For those who want to stick with the 790 2 iron i'm hearing almost every player on tour is jumping to the GAPR for increase MOI and ballspeed. I'm also hearing it's much better from the turf. This is a true driving iron whereas the 790 2 iron was a filler until this was ready.

 

you do realise it is a P790 iron which are very easy to hit, very long and forgiving.

 

I have had mine a month, hit it two times from the fairway - 290 downwind, Scottish links onto green. 245 Carry and stop, Houston weird soft grass.

 

I even hit one missing the grooves on the toe off the tee and it still went straight 220(links in Scotland, home course) I was shocked and sold then.

 

The new one might perform but it looks less like an Iron and there are lots very happy with the p790 UDI.

 

Defensive much? I'm passing along the info i got from a friend in the tour van circles. TM guys almost unanimously bailed on the 790 UDI for the GAPR because it's literally better in every category. Again not my opinion just what i'm told and by the looks of it the information is very accurate.

 

My whole thing with the GAPR, is I find it extremely unattractive. Confidence is like 90% of my golf game. If I'm not dressed properly for a round of golf, I won't play well. If I don't have confidence when standing over a club, I won't swing it well. I'm a very visual person, and what the club looks like at address will directly effect my performance with it. And based off every photo that's come out of the GAPR, I'd have no confidence standing over it. I think it's extremely ugly. So, while a robot might test a GAPR and P790 head to head and the GAPR will be better on paper, if I can't personally use it as well, does that even matter?

[cvhookem63]

Here is Kevin Chappell's GAPR Lo 2 iron with 6 grams taken off the back to get it to D3 with an X100 shaft. I don't guess he wanted it to play at D6. Supposedly the weight is for SW purposes...you'd think they could just swap that out and keep from having to grind off part of the club. Oh and the bonded version is Tour only as expected.

 

This tells me that the GAPR Lo will play at D3 with a 100g shaft, D2 with a 90g shaft, and D1 with an 80g shaft.

 

[TheMoneyShot]

Here is Kevin Chappell's GAPR Lo 2 iron with 6 grams taken off the back to get it to D3 with an X100 shaft. I don't guess he wanted it to play at D6. Supposedly the weight is for SW purposes...you'd think they could just swap that out and keep from having to grind off part of the club. Oh and the bonded version is Tour only as expected.

 

This tells me that the GAPR Lo will play at D3 with a 100g shaft, D2 with a 90g shaft, and D1 with an 80g shaft.

 

 

Chappell’s Lo UDI is sweet looking!

 

[rebby]

Oh and the bonded version is Tour only as expected.

 

I read this today as well, confirmed by a TM Rep IIRC. I wasn't drawn to the club by the looks but, in the end, I'll take a few swings with it anyway. Not being able to get a bonded version is just another strike against it though. Irons are stupid easy for me to swap shafts in and/or bend for loft/lie (I have all the equipment) so a big, bulky, FUGLY hosel with an adapter really doesn't give me any advantage. I still have a bonded fairway wood! I wouldn't be unhappy about having a bonded driver either, the only thing that I use my wrench for is to make sure that my shaft is still tight from time to time.

[Bar_Stroll]

I don't mind the look of the GAPR and am interested in the 2Lo but only if that KBS Hybrid shaft is the same profile as the black prototype shaft. If it is that is a great stock option. I hope it can be had with a 95g though.

[chch3]

Tensei white hybrid has been awesome in my UDI 2 iron. I was hitting bombs with it yesterday at the range. I am going to have to crank down the loft of my fairway wood to work out my gapping in the top of my bag.

 

I see so many people praising that shaft. I just wish they made the 100g model in a Stiff. I don't have the swing speed for TX. And I'd want something heavier than the 89g "90 Stiff" version.

 

My 6 iron swing speed is around 95 and I have no issues with the tx. I was thinking about picking up a 100tx and putting it in my UDI and then putting the 90 in my hybrid.

[Ivyguy]

Here is Kevin Chappell's GAPR Lo 2 iron with 6 grams taken off the back to get it to D3 with an X100 shaft. I don't guess he wanted it to play at D6. Supposedly the weight is for SW purposes...you'd think they could just swap that out and keep from having to grind off part of the club. Oh and the bonded version is Tour only as expected.

 

This tells me that the GAPR Lo will play at D3 with a 100g shaft, D2 with a 90g shaft, and D1 with an 80g shaft.

 

 

That's a tape job right there

[LoopySwing13]

just bought a P790 UDI 2i...they match my P770s better :)

 

In all seriousness GAPR looks ugly and I'd rather test the P790 and go from there...now carrying 1W/3W/19 degree/2iron UDI/4iron+

 

Welcome to the party! Love my 17* P790 as it replaced my 5 wood.

[MCGolfTM]

just bought a P790 UDI 2i...they match my P770s better :)

 

In all seriousness GAPR looks ugly and I'd rather test the P790 and go from there...now carrying 1W/3W/19 degree/2iron UDI/4iron+

 

Welcome to the party! Love my 17* P790 as it replaced my 5 wood.

 

Same here. I just sold the 5W and am keeping the P790 2i. The 5W was much easier to launch, but I rarely find myself in that yardage on most courses I play. The P790 can be used at any moment off the tee as well as this yardage off the rough or fairway when I encounter it. It was a tough call as I really like hitting both clubs, but for me the P790 2i seemed more practical and versatile. I got away from hybrids in the last couple years as they were draw and hook machines for me..

[BearQ]

just bought a P790 UDI 2i...they match my P770s better :)

 

In all seriousness GAPR looks ugly and I'd rather test the P790 and go from there...now carrying 1W/3W/19 degree/2iron UDI/4iron+

 

Welcome to the party! Love my 17* P790 as it replaced my 5 wood.

 

Same here. I just sold the 5W and am keeping the P790 2i. The 5W was much easier to launch, but I rarely find myself in that yardage on most courses I play. The P790 can be used at any moment off the tee as well as this yardage off the rough or fairway when I encounter it. It was a tough call as I really like hitting both clubs, but for me the P790 2i seemed more practical and versatile. I got away from hybrids in the last couple years as they were draw and hook machines for me..

 

With ya on so many fronts.

 

But I kept my 5w - 915fd w tour ad tp 8x. It’s definitely a better play on certain courses where I need a high 230-240 ball, actually a common requirement on the tight courses in my area. I love sniping 2/3 irons but no way I can consistently get the height out of it (especially with my shaft setups).

 

I’d say I use a 2i every 8/10, 5w 2/10

 

My point, too many folks are getting rid of reliable 5w and hybrids when they like a driving iron. It’s almost always beneficial to rotate that spot and not sell

[LoopySwing13]

just bought a P790 UDI 2i...they match my P770s better :)

 

In all seriousness GAPR looks ugly and I'd rather test the P790 and go from there...now carrying 1W/3W/19 degree/2iron UDI/4iron+

 

Welcome to the party! Love my 17* P790 as it replaced my 5 wood.

 

Same here. I just sold the 5W and am keeping the P790 2i. The 5W was much easier to launch, but I rarely find myself in that yardage on most courses I play. The P790 can be used at any moment off the tee as well as this yardage off the rough or fairway when I encounter it. It was a tough call as I really like hitting both clubs, but for me the P790 2i seemed more practical and versatile. I got away from hybrids in the last couple years as they were draw and hook machines for me..

 

With ya on so many fronts.

 

But I kept my 5w - 915fd w tour ad tp 8x. It’s definitely a better play on certain courses where I need a high 230-240 ball, actually a common requirement on the tight courses in my area. I love sniping 2/3 irons but no way I can consistently get the height out of it (especially with my shaft setups).

 

I’d say I use a 2i every 8/10, 5w 2/10

 

My point, too many folks are getting rid of reliable 5w and hybrids when they like a driving iron. It’s almost always beneficial to rotate that spot and not sell

 

I definitely hear you and I probably will regret selling my 5 wood at some point.. ?

[MCGolfTM]

just bought a P790 UDI 2i...they match my P770s better :)

 

In all seriousness GAPR looks ugly and I'd rather test the P790 and go from there...now carrying 1W/3W/19 degree/2iron UDI/4iron+

 

Welcome to the party! Love my 17* P790 as it replaced my 5 wood.

 

Same here. I just sold the 5W and am keeping the P790 2i. The 5W was much easier to launch, but I rarely find myself in that yardage on most courses I play. The P790 can be used at any moment off the tee as well as this yardage off the rough or fairway when I encounter it. It was a tough call as I really like hitting both clubs, but for me the P790 2i seemed more practical and versatile. I got away from hybrids in the last couple years as they were draw and hook machines for me..

 

With ya on so many fronts.

 

But I kept my 5w - 915fd w tour ad tp 8x. Its definitely a better play on certain courses where I need a high 230-240 ball, actually a common requirement on the tight courses in my area. I love sniping 2/3 irons but no way I can consistently get the height out of it (especially with my shaft setups).

 

Id say I use a 2i every 8/10, 5w 2/10

 

My point, too many folks are getting rid of reliable 5w and hybrids when they like a driving iron. Its almost always beneficial to rotate that spot and not sell

 

I definitely hear you and I probably will regret selling my 5 wood at some point..

 

Agreed, but I guess I can always buy another if needed. That yardage just really never showed up much for me.