Justin Rose v Adam Scott - Who has the better career?

[farmer]

AS is much better looking than JR. AS's swing is prettier. AS has had some stunning gf's. I prefer the AU accent over the English. Clearly, the answer is Adam Scott.

[MattyO1984]

AS is much better looking than JR. AS's swing is prettier. AS has had some stunning gf's. I prefer the AU accent over the English. Clearly, the answer is Adam Scott.

 

Can't fault your logic!

[iBanesto]

AS is much better looking than JR. AS's swing is prettier. AS has had some stunning gf's. I prefer the AU accent over the English. Clearly, the answer is Adam Scott.

 

Adam Scott is good looking?

 

[imakaveli]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

[Titleist_PT23]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

They'd all make it based on the current criteria. Agree it has been diluted.

 

Of recent players, obviously Woods (not eligible yet), Mickelson, Els, and Singh deserve it. Rory and Spieth even if they never win another tournament (some here probably think that's likely).

 

Kind of feel like need to throw in Padraig Harrington and Koepka (even if never wins again), as three majors is very significant.

 

Couples, Love, O'Meara, Goosen all feel about the same as Scott/Rose/Garcia. They make it based on the criteria and were very very good but...

 

To me, the murky cut-off point is say 20 wins and 1 major (Davis Love) or 10-15 wins and 2 majors (O'Meara). Two majors is significant but then do you include guys like John Daly, Kaymer, Andy North if they didn't do much else?

 

I also think they should remove the Players Championship from the "major" bucket. Unfortunately, I don't have appreciation (which may be incorrect) for the non-PGA tour wins some of these guys have.

[MarkFromTheUK]

Rose, as he didn't have to put up with listening to Stevie W for the bulk of his career.

[imakaveli]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

They'd all make it based on the current criteria. Agree it has been diluted.

 

Of recent players, obviously Woods (not eligible yet), Mickelson, Els, and Singh deserve it. Rory and Spieth even if they never win another tournament (some here probably think that's likely).

 

Kind of feel like need to throw in Padraig Harrington and Koepka (even if never wins again), as three majors is very significant.

 

Couples, Love, O'Meara, Goosen all feel about the same as Scott/Rose/Garcia. They make it based on the criteria and were very very good but...

 

To me, the murky cut-off point is say 20 wins and 1 major (Davis Love) or 10-15 wins and 2 majors (O'Meara). Two majors is significant but then do you include guys like John Daly, Kaymer, Andy North if they didn't do much else?

 

I also think they should remove the Players Championship from the "major" bucket. Unfortunately, I don't have appreciation (which may be incorrect) for the non-PGA tour wins some of these guys have.

 

Golf HoF has lost all the relavance, I expect them to invite Birdman soon, also because he has earned more golf fame than Brooks...

[Darth Putter]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

Adam Scott

13 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, 2 WGCs and a Tour Championship

15 more worldwide wins including Australian Open

former #1

#7 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Justin Rose

10 PGA Tour wins

US Open, 2 WGCs

8 European Tour wins and 2 more global wins

Olympic Gold Medal

Fed Ex Cup winner, European Order of Merit Winner

current #1

Ryder Cup legend

#6 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Sergio Garcia

10 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, British Amateur

14 European Tour wins, 5 more around the world

450 weeks in OWGR top 10

Vardon Trophy

Ryder Cup legend

#9 all time PGA Tour money list

 

 

I think they're all in.

 

If Matt Kuchar wins a major, he'll make it four similar resumes in that age group.

[bscinstnct]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

 

What they need to do is have a regular HoF and then

 

A more exclusive, inner sanctum, VIP HoF where the big dogs are recognized.

 

Be like,

 

 

 

"Reserved for 7 Majors or more"

 

[cdnglf]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

Adam Scott

13 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, 2 WGCs and a Tour Championship

15 more worldwide wins including Australian Open

former #1

#7 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Justin Rose

10 PGA Tour wins

US Open, 2 WGCs

8 European Tour wins and 2 more global wins

Olympic Gold Medal

Fed Ex Cup winner, European Order of Merit Winner

current #1

Ryder Cup legend

#6 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Sergio Garcia

10 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, British Amateur

14 European Tour wins, 5 more around the world

450 weeks in OWGR top 10

Vardon Trophy

Ryder Cup legend

#9 all time PGA Tour money list

 

 

I think they're all in.

 

If Matt Kuchar wins a major, he'll make it four similar resumes in that age group.

 

They’re all currently below DL3 (21 pga tour wins, including a major and 2 players), but I agree that they’ll probably get in because they’re the best there is between Tiger and DJ.

 

(Bubba and ZJ have 2 majors, but the rest of their resumes are comparatively lacking)

[Darth Putter]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

 

What they need to do is have a regular HoF and then

 

A more exclusive, inner sanctum, VIP HoF where the big dogs are recognized.

 

Be like,

 

 

 

"Reserved for 7 Majors or more"

 

 

Don't need Trevino, Seve, Faldo or Bryron Nelson.

[bscinstnct]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

 

What they need to do is have a regular HoF and then

 

A more exclusive, inner sanctum, VIP HoF where the big dogs are recognized.

 

Be like,

 

 

 

"Reserved for 7 Majors or more"

 

 

Don't need Trevino, Seve, Faldo or Bryron Nelson.

 

Sorry guys, private party ; )

[Titleist_PT23]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

Adam Scott

13 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, 2 WGCs and a Tour Championship

15 more worldwide wins including Australian Open

former #1

#7 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Justin Rose

10 PGA Tour wins

US Open, 2 WGCs

8 European Tour wins and 2 more global wins

Olympic Gold Medal

Fed Ex Cup winner, European Order of Merit Winner

current #1

Ryder Cup legend

#6 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Sergio Garcia

10 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, British Amateur

14 European Tour wins, 5 more around the world

450 weeks in OWGR top 10

Vardon Trophy

Ryder Cup legend

#9 all time PGA Tour money list

 

 

I think they're all in.

 

If Matt Kuchar wins a major, he'll make it four similar resumes in that age group.

 

They're all currently below DL3 (21 pga tour wins, including a major and 2 players), but I agree that they'll probably get in because they're the best there is between Tiger and DJ.

 

(Bubba and ZJ have 2 majors, but the rest of their resumes are comparatively lacking)

Bubba (12 wins, 2 of which majors, and 2 of which WCGs) and Zach Johnson (12 wins, 2 of which majors) have just as good of record on the PGA Tour as these guys. It's the int'l leg that is missing (I don't know how to value this).

 

Bubba is also a fan favorite and well-respected among his peers.

[Malvern]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

 

What they need to do is have a regular HoF and then

 

A more exclusive, inner sanctum, VIP HoF where the big dogs are recognized.

 

 

 

 

You are probably taking the piss but I like the idea.

 

Our football (Rugby League) has the HoF and then a group of "Immortals" (think there is around a dozen). People who have made a big contribution to the game, players, coaches, administrators, referees (WTF) can go in the HoF but only players can be immortals.

[cdnglf]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

Adam Scott

13 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, 2 WGCs and a Tour Championship

15 more worldwide wins including Australian Open

former #1

#7 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Justin Rose

10 PGA Tour wins

US Open, 2 WGCs

8 European Tour wins and 2 more global wins

Olympic Gold Medal

Fed Ex Cup winner, European Order of Merit Winner

current #1

Ryder Cup legend

#6 all time PGA Tour money list

 

Sergio Garcia

10 PGA Tour wins

Masters, TPC, British Amateur

14 European Tour wins, 5 more around the world

450 weeks in OWGR top 10

Vardon Trophy

Ryder Cup legend

#9 all time PGA Tour money list

 

 

I think they're all in.

 

If Matt Kuchar wins a major, he'll make it four similar resumes in that age group.

 

They're all currently below DL3 (21 pga tour wins, including a major and 2 players), but I agree that they'll probably get in because they're the best there is between Tiger and DJ.

 

(Bubba and ZJ have 2 majors, but the rest of their resumes are comparatively lacking)

Bubba (12 wins, 2 of which majors, and 2 of which WCGs) and Zach Johnson (12 wins, 2 of which majors) have just as good of record on the PGA Tour as these guys. It's the int'l leg that is missing (I don't know how to value this).

 

Bubba is also a fan favorite and well-respected among his peers.

 

Go look at ZJ’s PGA Tour wins. Quite a few really weak events. Like, “were these on the Asian Tour?” weak. He’s never been close to #1 - in fact, he’s spent almost his entire career outside the top 10.

 

Bubba’s wins are much better, but 12 worldwide wins is still very low - the 1980s guys are all at 20+, I think.

[Titleist_PT23]

Go look at ZJ's PGA Tour wins. Quite a few really weak events. Like, "were these on the Asian Tour?" weak. He's never been close to #1 - in fact, he's spent almost his entire career outside the top 10.

 

Bubba's wins are much better, but 12 worldwide wins is still very low - the 1980s guys are all at 20+, I think.

Fair enough. ZJ has 1 FedEx Cup event, which is the only big one outside of the two majors.

 

But Rose and Scott both have 4 PGA wins in events that aren't great either.

 

I'm not sold on what #1 means either. Luke Donald and Lee Westwood were number 1 at some point. Phil never was because of Tiger. It's a cool thing no doubt but it doesn't win tournaments and is partly to do with how your peers played at any particular time.

[cdnglf]

Go look at ZJ's PGA Tour wins. Quite a few really weak events. Like, "were these on the Asian Tour?" weak. He's never been close to #1 - in fact, he's spent almost his entire career outside the top 10.

 

Bubba's wins are much better, but 12 worldwide wins is still very low - the 1980s guys are all at 20+, I think.

Fair enough. ZJ has 1 FedEx Cup event, which is the only big one outside of the two majors.

 

But Rose and Scott both have 4 PGA wins in events that aren't great either.

 

I'm not sold on what #1 means either. Luke Donald and Lee Westwood were number 1 at some point. Phil never was because of Tiger. It's a cool thing no doubt but it doesn't win tournaments and is partly to do with how your peers played at any particular time.

 

I agree that getting to #1 can be circumstantial, but weeks in the the top 10 is a pretty good indicator of overall play/relevance.

 

ZJ’s wins had values in the 30s and even 20s. I don’t think the other guys are like that:

 

http://www.owgr.com/en/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=6986

 

[DukeOfChinoHills]

No one has mentioned that Adam has won a Tour Championship (before the FedEx Cup era), which Rose has yet to accomplish.

 

Because nobody cares about a silly 30 man event. Unless a certain somebody wins it...

 

Hold on, Rose won the FedEx Cup by finishing 4th in the Tour Championship last year. The OP listed the FedEx Cup as one of Rose's accomplishments. Scott won the TC outright. The OP should have listed it for Scott too.

[GoGoErky]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

I think so. Number of wins on the two big tours and a major

[cdnglf]

No one has mentioned that Adam has won a Tour Championship (before the FedEx Cup era), which Rose has yet to accomplish.

 

Because nobody cares about a silly 30 man event. Unless a certain somebody wins it...

 

Hold on, Rose won the FedEx Cup by finishing 4th in the Tour Championship last year. The OP listed the FedEx Cup as one of Rose's accomplishments. Scott won the TC outright. The OP should have listed it for Scott too.

 

Rose won the FedEx Cup by being the best over the entire season (admittedly with a weighting that puts most of the emphasis on the fedex events and TC in particular)

 

Not sure why the TC deserves a special call-out. It’s just another tournament, but with a tiny field.

[Barfolomew]

I'll take the current Olympic gold medalists career.... So cool and rare to win gold....16 majors played every time 1 Olympics comes round. Yes I was raised in the 70/80s when the Olympics was king

[Body_Visions]

If you were playing for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

 

If you were playing an event for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

[Titleist_PT23]

If you were playing for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

 

If you were playing an event for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

Based on recent play yes.

Based on today, I would rather have Blake Bortles as my starting QB at the Super Bowl on Sunday vs. Bart Starr (the guy is 85 years old). But that does not mean Blake Bortles's career is better, does it? :russian_roulette: :russian_roulette:

[Guia]

OP: That is a hard one, I like both of their games. They both have some years left to go. I give the nod to Rose, only because of the Olympic Medal.

[Body_Visions]

If you were playing for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

 

If you were playing an event for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

Based on recent play yes.

Based on today, I would rather have Blake Bortles as my starting QB at the Super Bowl on Sunday vs. Bart Starr (the guy is 85 years old). But that does not mean Blake Bortles's career is better, does it? :russian_roulette: :russian_roulette:

 

Not sure about your tone, so I will answer as it was just normal....I was taking all I know about each in my decision. In my mind, I would rather have Rose, at any point in his life, have a putt with my mortgage on the line. Therefore, I came to my decision. And don’t think I am using their putting abilities in my decision, it’s more how I perceive the mental makeup of both.

 

I also believe Rose’s career is better, but personally, I would probably take Scott’s due to my love of Augusta, and knowing I could go back every year.

[Titleist_PT23]

If you were playing for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

 

If you were playing an event for a lot of money, and needed a partner, which one would you choose?

 

I would choose Rose in a second, therefore, he is my choice.

Based on recent play yes.

Based on today, I would rather have Blake Bortles as my starting QB at the Super Bowl on Sunday vs. Bart Starr (the guy is 85 years old). But that does not mean Blake Bortles's career is better, does it? :russian_roulette: :russian_roulette:

 

Not sure about your tone, so I will answer as it was just normal....I was taking all I know about each in my decision. In my mind, I would rather have Rose, at any point in his life, have a putt with my mortgage on the line. Therefore, I came to my decision. And don't think I am using their putting abilities in my decision, it's more how I perceive the mental makeup of both.

 

I also believe Rose's career is better, but personally, I would probably take Scott's due to my love of Augusta, and knowing I could go back every year.

Apologies. I just think if this question was presented roughly three years ago when Adam Scott had won back-to-back at the Honda and Doral (and got 2nd at Riveria) while Justin Rose had won the Quick Loans and Zurich Classic of New Orleans since his U.S. Open the answers would be quite different. I certainly can't speak for what you'd have said then but I am quite confident that in general the perception (overall game, putting, mental make-up, outlook, etc) would be different.

 

Or, go look at what Roes did from his T4 low amateur at the 1998 Open to 2010 (both PGA and WW). It would be tough to believe many thought this guy was better than Adam Scott.

 

And this is the recency bias previously mentioned.

[iBanesto]

Go look at ZJ's PGA Tour wins. Quite a few really weak events. Like, "were these on the Asian Tour?" weak. He's never been close to #1 - in fact, he's spent almost his entire career outside the top 10.

 

Bubba's wins are much better, but 12 worldwide wins is still very low - the 1980s guys are all at 20+, I think.

Fair enough. ZJ has 1 FedEx Cup event, which is the only big one outside of the two majors.

 

But Rose and Scott both have 4 PGA wins in events that aren't great either.

 

I'm not sold on what #1 means either. Luke Donald and Lee Westwood were number 1 at some point. Phil never was because of Tiger. It's a cool thing no doubt but it doesn't win tournaments and is partly to do with how your peers played at any particular time.

 

I agree that getting to #1 can be circumstantial, but weeks in the the top 10 is a pretty good indicator of overall play/relevance.

 

ZJ's wins had values in the 30s and even 20s. I don't think the other guys are like that:

 

http://www.owgr.com/...x?playerID=6986

 

I'll take a Masters and Open career over either Rose's or Scott's career.

 

Hard to beat ZJ's 2 majors win at Augusta and St Andrews!

[geesecougar2]

I have to say that Rose deserves a ton of credit for turning pro as a teenager and missing 21 straight cuts, then turning it around and getting all the way to #1 in the world.

[babyfade]

the difference is, that rose will win a lot from now on, while scott is done since the ban of the anchored putters.

[imakaveli]

Adam Scott, Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are about the same age, have posted similar results in their career and play a similar game to one another.

 

Are they HOF worthy careers at this point?

 

At this pace even I will be in the golf HoF at some point...

 

What they need to do is have a regular HoF and then

 

A more exclusive, inner sanctum, VIP HoF where the big dogs are recognized.

 

Be like,

 

 

 

"Reserved for 7 Majors or more"

 

 

The Vip HoF is already out there, legends not voted by some seniors in Florida ;)