Mizuno MP-20 - July 2019

[Sourpuss]

i have never felt a better feeling than these irons, i buy a new set ever year for the past 10 and these are by far the softest, butteryest feeling irons ever. ball flight, spin, workability and sound. i have found my soulmate!

[Breezy-3-]

> @Sourpuss said:

> i have never felt a better feeling than these irons, i buy a new set ever year for the past 10 and these are by far the softest, butteryest feeling irons ever. ball flight, spin, workability and sound. i have found my soulmate!

 

 

For this year.. ;)

 

[jetmech879]

Just placed my order for 6-pw to combo in with my HMB set. I love the HMBs but am having difficulty with solid contact on the short irons. I think the soles are just too big for my liking. If this experiment fails there will be a lot of like new irons for sale! Haha!

[jblough99]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> Anyone else waiting on HMB long irons? I received my 5-PW for my MP-20 SELs but still waiting on the 3 and 4 iron. Going on 2 weeks now...

 

Took almost a month from when I ordered till I got mine. Placed order on 9/20, just picked them up 10/12. According to Mizuno my order was held up because they were out of HMB 4 iron heads. They just got them back in stock last wednesday.

[lefty1978]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> Anyone else waiting on HMB long irons? I received my 5-PW for my MP-20 SELs but still waiting on the 3 and 4 iron. Going on 2 weeks now...

 

Ordered my 4 iron HMB SEL from my club less than 2 weeks ago. It arrived this afternoon, will pick up tomorrow. It was a custom order.

[CallawayLefty]

I ordered SELs 4-PW on Oct. 2. My shipment is en route for Thursday delivery and I haven't heard anything about the 4 iron not being with the set. Guess we'll see.

[Clive123]

> @Kevinnz said:

> Lol when was the last time mizuno released a true blade? Even miura fances sole relieves (Y grind) latterly (10 yrs at least?).

> What mizuno does is totally fine for the majority of us out there who are like not tour calibre of solid contacts. Toes and heel miss forgiveness is a key.

> These muscle backs are never intended for a true blade configeration so stop getting disappointed for something thats not designed to please a purist.

 

 

[Clive123]

I had a fitting for 5/pw mp 20sel order was placed from a golf club near me with a high ranking with mizuno top 25 in the U.K. custom order delivered in 6 days .

[lefty1978]

HMB SEL 4 iron.

 

[CallawayLefty]

I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

[lefty1978]

> @CallawayLefty said:

> I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

 

The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

[CallawayLefty]

> @lefty1978 said:

> > @CallawayLefty said:

> > I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

>

> The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

 

Yep - I know. I just meant if Mizuno had asked my esteemed opinion before designing them, would I personally have split the set at 5 or 6 iron. I probably would have gone with 6 iron. That said, I found the demo 7 iron to be extremely forgiving, so I’m hoping that translates to the 5 and 6 iron as well.

 

[lefty1978]

> @CallawayLefty said:

> > @lefty1978 said:

> > > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

> >

> > The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

>

> Yep - I know. I just meant if Mizuno had asked my esteemed opinion before designing them, would I personally have split the set at 5 or 6 iron. I probably would have gone with 6 iron. That said, I found the demo 7 iron to be extremely forgiving, so I’m hoping that translates to the 5 and 6 iron as well.

>

 

I see what you are saying. The 5 and 6 are easy to hit. I am happy with the split the way it is. I personally wouldn't have bought if they went down to 6 iron in the HMB SEL, a bit too chunky for me. I can see maybe 5, 4 and 3 in HMB.

[herbert7890]

> @CallawayLefty said:

> > @lefty1978 said:

> > > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

> >

> > The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

>

> Yep - I know. I just meant if Mizuno had asked my esteemed opinion before designing them, would I personally have split the set at 5 or 6 iron. I probably would have gone with 6 iron. That said, I found the demo 7 iron to be extremely forgiving, so I’m hoping that translates to the 5 and 6 iron as well.

>

 

I also found the 7 iron at the demo VERY VERY forgiving (like a CB rather than a Blade), thus I decided to order the SELs as well. Although I have used blades in the past as well, but I dont play as often now.

[golflefty]

> @lefty1978 said:

> > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > @lefty1978 said:

> > > > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > > I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

> > >

> > > The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

> >

> > Yep - I know. I just meant if Mizuno had asked my esteemed opinion before designing them, would I personally have split the set at 5 or 6 iron. I probably would have gone with 6 iron. That said, I found the demo 7 iron to be extremely forgiving, so I’m hoping that translates to the 5 and 6 iron as well.

> >

>

> I see what you are saying. The 5 and 6 are easy to hit. I am happy with the split the way it is. I personally wouldn't have bought if they went down to 6 iron in the HMB SEL, a bit too chunky for me. I can see maybe 5, 4 and 3 in HMB.

 

I agree, the 5i has seemed plenty easier to hit compared to some of the blades I've played in the past. I usually split at the 4 or 5 iron... depending on how comfortable I feel with the blade 5. Very happy with this one!

[StillCantPutt]

I ordered both the MMCs and the blades and played the MMCs for 2 weeks before even trying the blades. Once I tried them, I knew I could never go back. These are the most gorgeous and easy to hit “blades” you can find. 4-PW they’re all fantastic. Tried them on a LM and honestly, no difference in distance yet tighter dispersion. I can’t believe how easy these things are to hit. MMCs heading to eBay I’m afraid. They’re great too but if you can play those, you can play the blades. Just sayin

[CallawayLefty]

> @golflefty said:

> > @lefty1978 said:

> > > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > > @lefty1978 said:

> > > > > @CallawayLefty said:

> > > > > I got the chance to see the whole SEL set 3-PW in person. Really excited for mine to show up. They look awesome. Only thing I waffle on is the blade 5 iron. I’m on the fence as to whether I would have personally split the set after the 5 iron.

> > > >

> > > > The SELs only have blade 5 iron to pw option, HMB in 3 and 4 irons.

> > >

> > > Yep - I know. I just meant if Mizuno had asked my esteemed opinion before designing them, would I personally have split the set at 5 or 6 iron. I probably would have gone with 6 iron. That said, I found the demo 7 iron to be extremely forgiving, so I’m hoping that translates to the 5 and 6 iron as well.

> > >

> >

> > I see what you are saying. The 5 and 6 are easy to hit. I am happy with the split the way it is. I personally wouldn't have bought if they went down to 6 iron in the HMB SEL, a bit too chunky for me. I can see maybe 5, 4 and 3 in HMB.

>

> I agree, the 5i has seemed plenty easier to hit compared to some of the blades I've played in the past. I usually split at the 4 or 5 iron... depending on how comfortable I feel with the blade 5. Very happy with this one!

 

Well mine show up tomorrow. We'll see how it goes!

[mBiden2]

> @StillCantPutt said:

> I ordered both the MMCs and the blades and played the MMCs for 2 weeks before even trying the blades. Once I tried them, I knew I could never go back. These are the most gorgeous and easy to hit “blades” you can find. 4-PW they’re all fantastic. Tried them on a LM and honestly, no difference in distance yet tighter dispersion. I can’t believe how easy these things are to hit. MMCs heading to eBay I’m afraid. They’re great too but if you can play those, you can play the blades. Just sayin

 

What shaft did you go with?

[StillCantPutt]

> @mBiden2 said:

> > @StillCantPutt said:

> > I ordered both the MMCs and the blades and played the MMCs for 2 weeks before even trying the blades. Once I tried them, I knew I could never go back. These are the most gorgeous and easy to hit “blades” you can find. 4-PW they’re all fantastic. Tried them on a LM and honestly, no difference in distance yet tighter dispersion. I can’t believe how easy these things are to hit. MMCs heading to eBay I’m afraid. They’re great too but if you can play those, you can play the blades. Just sayin

>

> What shaft did you go with?

Same shaft I’ve played for the last 3 years, Modus 120x

 

[CallawayLefty]

Just logged my first range session and round with the SEL. My initial reactions:

 

-they look amazing and feel amazing

-they are not an intimidating club to look at. Kind of a “fake blade” in my opinion.

-they seem to play long and lower spin that I would expect from a blade.

-the HMB 4 iron is very hot and easy to hit

-I think they are no less forgiving than the Apex Pro I am coming from.

 

All in all, I’d say they’re a really, really good set.

[Clive123]

I must say muscle backs are not blades , anyway over the years I’ve had many decent muscle backs, Titleist, Miura, mizuno pro original , these mizuno mp 20 sel are the best I’ve had

[herbert7890]

> @Clive123 said:

> I must say muscle backs are not blades , anyway over the years I’ve had many decent muscle backs, Titleist, Miura, mizuno pro original , these mizuno mp 20 sel are the best I’ve had

 

you know, I have always wondered if musclebacks are considered blade irons. What is the general consensus on this? are these blades or not?

[musclefront]

> @herbert7890 said:

> > @Clive123 said:

> > I must say muscle backs are not blades , anyway over the years I’ve had many decent muscle backs, Titleist, Miura, mizuno pro original , these mizuno mp 20 sel are the best I’ve had

>

> you know, I have always wondered if musclebacks are considered blade irons. What is the general consensus on this? are these blades or not?

 

Muscle backs are most definitely blades IMO

[Mudguard]

A little Team Blue action

 

 

 

 

[Mikee_j]

Played 5 round and a few range sessions with the MP20’s now and they are fantastic. No loss of forgiveness or distance when compared to my older AP2 716’s. If anything the shape and thinner top line is giving me much more confidence and I’m striking the ball better than ever. Even the 4 iron is buttery soft to hit which has really surprised me.

[wely324]

> @musclefront said:

> > @herbert7890 said:

> > > @Clive123 said:

> > > I must say muscle backs are not blades , anyway over the years I’ve had many decent muscle backs, Titleist, Miura, mizuno pro original , these mizuno mp 20 sel are the best I’ve had

> >

> > you know, I have always wondered if musclebacks are considered blade irons. What is the general consensus on this? are these blades or not?

>

> Muscle backs are most definitely blades IMO

 

I would definitely agree that MB's are blades, but I can see how some don't perceive them as a true blade compared to the blades from back in the day. But if that is the case then there are no true blades available in today's market. I guess you could say blades have transitioned over time to the muscle back design of more mass low and behind the ball???

[herbert7890]

> @wely324 said:

> > @musclefront said:

> > > @herbert7890 said:

> > > > @Clive123 said:

> > > > I must say muscle backs are not blades , anyway over the years I’ve had many decent muscle backs, Titleist, Miura, mizuno pro original , these mizuno mp 20 sel are the best I’ve had

> > >

> > > you know, I have always wondered if musclebacks are considered blade irons. What is the general consensus on this? are these blades or not?

> >

> > Muscle backs are most definitely blades IMO

>

> I would definitely agree that MB's are blades, but I can see how some don't perceive them as a true blade compared to the blades from back in the day. But if that is the case then there are no true blades available in today's market. I guess you could say blades have transitioned over time to the muscle back design of more mass low and behind the ball???

 

that sounds right on, I agree, Just an evolution of the blade iron (like any other club)

[easylittle5wood]

I think blades and musclebacks are interchangeable. But it did get me thinking about true "blades" last ones I could think of were the Cleveland 485 Tour Editions. Don't think any muscle but more of a knife blade.

[MBBG]

Yeah I think MBs have become synonymous with blades but MBs were actually the first GI technology. Yururi still makes JDM “flatback” irons in multiple finishes I believe. Kyoei forged.

[SubaruWRX]

 

These would look good in a bag with those blue T20 wedges...