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37 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Never rooted for PR, don't even care for him, hope he wins today.

Found the guy with a Cobra Kai tattoo

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6 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

But that’s not against any rule.  

My point is that no one else verified if it was embedded. Reed only went by the rules if it was and we don’t know that for sure because he picked it up

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1 minute ago, Wildwing55 said:

If it happens, Reed deserves the win.  He doesn't deserve the hate that Rory did without a rules official, with the same situation.  We will see.

I don't care either way. I just think it will be an interesting week hearing about it. Only golfers I root for are Rickie and Darren Clarke. 

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1 minute ago, Holy Moses said:

My point is that no one else verified if it was embedded. Reed only went by the rules if it was and we don’t know that for sure because he picked it up

early.


Yep no one verified Rory’s either. And the rules were changed to say you don’t need it. Yet...only one person keeps being brought up. 
 

The rules were changed in ‘19.  Wanna go back and invalidate every embedded ball that wasn’t verified. If you think these are the only two well...

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6 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

Think the rules official savored that for a bit (correcting Frank). After they basically badgered him yesterday. 

Tackett might be right, but did he know if Reed had marked his ball yet? If Reed did then yes you put it back. If he didn’t, then you play it where it ended up. I thought Nobilo was referring to the latter but I’m not 100% confident on that. 

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1 minute ago, Wildwing55 said:

No, Brad the official, verified it as well, when he was called in.

He verified a small indent in the ground that could have been made by anything. Too bad he couldn't have seen the embedded ball though. Then this thread wouldn't exist. 

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2 minutes ago, deadsolid...shank said:

Do you have a problem with Rory as well then?

Yes, Rory should not have picked the ball up without someone else verifying if it was in fact embedded

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Just now, Golfrnut said:


Yep no one verified Rory’s either. And the rules were changed to say you don’t need it. Yet...only one person keeps being brought up. 
 

The rules were changed in ‘19.  Wanna go back and invalidate every embedded ball that wasn’t verified. If you think these are the only two well...

This is the truth.  Patrick did it with assistance from a rules official, Brad Fabel.  Rory did it on his own.  Make your own judgement.

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Just now, Kilo1545 said:

Does Rory have the same history of and reputation for cheating?


Do the RoG say that certain people should be confined to a different of rules than another?  Please cite the reference for us all. 

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1 minute ago, Kilo1545 said:

Does Rory have the same history of and reputation for cheating?

The past shouldn't dictate what is right or wrong in this situation.

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4 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Yes, Rory should not have picked the ball up without someone else verifying if it was in fact embedded


Again, you and the TV commentators should take it up with the rules committee and not with the players. Players are told to speed up, the rule was changed to advance pace of play. Take your gripes up with them. 

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2 minutes ago, Wildwing55 said:

The current tournament is all that matters.

 

2 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:


Do the RoG say that certain people should be confined to a different of rules than another?  Please cite the reference for us all. 

 

1 minute ago, hybrid25 said:

The past shouldn't dictate what is right or wrong in this situation.

 

5 minutes ago, Wildwing55 said:

So, Rory should be getting the equal amount of hate that Reed is getting?

Reading comprehension.  It's a thing.  I replied to the bolded quote.  Regarding the RULES, yes, they should be treated the same.  With regard to the "amount of hate" each receives for perceived wrongdoing, then yeah, their past histories and reputations are completely within bounds.

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5 minutes ago, Wildwing55 said:

So, Rory should be getting the equal amount of hate that Reed is getting?

Yes, but Rory is still to be more trusted because he has a more honest history. I still think Reed was fumbling around with the ball way too much. 

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10 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Tackett might be right, but did he know if Reed had marked his ball yet? If Reed did then yes you put it back. If he didn’t, then you play it where it ended up. I thought Nobilo was referring to the latter but I’m not 100% confident on that. 

The video clearly showed Patrick with mark still in the ground. It moved before he picked it up.  

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