Mizuno T22 wedges preview

[rollen]

Saw a earlier post asking about swingweight, but didn’t see any replies.  I have a 60 X grind in copper with an S-400 shaft. The swingweight is very light around D0. Anyone else seeing similar swingweights?

[heathpitts]

I haven’t had mine tested for swingweight. I did order with nippon modus wedge 115s to fit with the 120s in my irons and I can definitely feel where the head is in the swing. So to me they feel heavy'ish. Regardless I’ve never been happier or better with any wedges that I’ve played. Even had comments on how much better my wedge game is lately. Might need to buy backups haha

Edited May 7, 2022 by heathpitts

[mcc0819]

I bagged the T20s for 2 years and was extremely happy with them. I didn’t think I needed an upgrade.  Well, I found a used 60 x grind t22 at golf galaxy.  It was barely used so for $100 I gave it a shot.  My goodness, this is better than the t20.  The x grind with extra toe and heel relief is the ultimate lob wedge.  Now I’m itching to replace my other wedges. 

[Lloyd_Christmas29]

Anyone notice these are all the same length at 35.25” in every loft? Seems odd you’d want your 60 degree the same length as your 52. I looked at SM9’s are 35.5” in gap wedges, 35.25” in sand wedges, and 35.0” in lob wedges. 

Edited May 10, 2022 by Lloyd_Christmas29

[driveandputtmachine]

12 hours ago, Lloyd_Christmas29 said:

Anyone notice these are all the same length at 35.25” in every loft? Seems odd you’d want your 60 degree the same length as your 52. I looked at SM9’s are 35.5” in gap wedges, 35.25” in sand wedges, and 35.0” in lob wedges. 

This is where everyone is different, seems odd to me that you would want your wedges different lengths.  I play PW, GW, SW, LW all the same length so wedges that I don't have to port makes me super happy.

[heathpitts]

3 minutes ago, driveandputtmachine said:

This is where everyone is different, seems odd to me that you would want your wedges different lengths.  I play PW, GW, SW, LW all the same length so wedges that I don't have to port makes me super happy.

I do the same now as well. Works a lot better for me this way and I did this after the recommendation of my local golf store. I use the +4 grips so I can choke down when necessary. Likely led to some of my better wedge results lately.

[Lloyd_Christmas29]

13 minutes ago, heathpitts said:

I do the same now as well. Works a lot better for me this way and I did this after the recommendation of my local golf store. I use the +4 grips so I can choke down when necessary. Likely led to some of my better wedge results lately.

Well I guess I’ll find out if I like it! This is my first time trying a non Vokey wedge so I’ve never used wedges all the same length.

[againstthegrain]

Great wedges, but the font used for the degree of the club isn't particularly distinct from each other.   Selecting the right wedge(s) from the bag takes some sorting.  It's hard to tell the 50 from the 60 for instance or the 46 from the 56.  I had mine built at Hotstixx and they said they couldn't stamp the sole with P, G, S, and L for some reason.   Perhaps next offseason I can find someone to do that.

 

 

[Augie53]

So I got a used (demo in great shape) Vokey SM8 56* D grind about a month ago.  Didn't want to wait on SM9s and I wasn't able t find the T22 66* D grind local.  

 

I've been using the Vokey almost daily in either practice or play and it just feels "harsh" and clicky compared to when I chip, pitch, chip & run with my set Mizuno 8-GW which feel soft and responsive.  Not sure if that's just how Vokey's are or if I'm not hitting the sweet spot.

 

Long way of saying I think I'll be trying out a T22 by the end of this summer to see how it feels.  I'm guessing since it's a forged Mizuno it will have that softer Mizuno iron feel?

[heathpitts]

The satin and the denim copper in the T22 have the copper layer that makes them feel extra soft. Raw does not but all are forged so to me they feel better than any of my previous Vokey wedges. Vokey still has Mizuno beat in total number of grinds though if that matters. I’m convinced that I just wasn’t hitting the sweet spot until I got these T22s though 🙂

Edited May 18, 2022 by heathpitts

[golffeen007]

3 hours ago, againstthegrain said:

Great wedges, but the font used for the degree of the club isn't particularly distinct from each other.   Selecting the right wedge(s) from the bag takes some sorting.  It's hard to tell the 50 from the 60 for instance or the 46 from the 56.  I had mine built at Hotstixx and they said they couldn't stamp the sole with P, G, S, and L for some reason.   Perhaps next offseason I can find someone to do that.

 

 

I get this. They’re very similar and I wish they’d do away with the cheap looking badges, but they’re great wedges if the grinds work for you. I installed a different color Bbf&Co ferrule to be able to tell my 3 apart easier 😉

[FirePro]

On 5/6/2022 at 7:53 PM, rollen said:

Saw a earlier post asking about swingweight, but didn’t see any replies.  I have a 60 X grind in copper with an S-400 shaft. The swingweight is very light around D0. Anyone else seeing similar swingweights?

I have a 58 X Grind that came with the stock TT DG TI S400 that plays at 35.25" + but cap to just under 35.5" which I assume the measurement off of their site is to the end of the steel.  The 58* swing weight is D5 on my scale which is pretty standard from my experience.

[againstthegrain]

11 hours ago, golffeen007 said:

I get this. They’re very similar and I wish they’d do away with the cheap looking badges, but they’re great wedges if the grinds work for you. I installed a different color Bbf&Co ferrule to be able to tell my 3 apart easier 😉

 

I should have used a different color paintfill on my initials which I have stamped or added some other distinguishing mark on my set, but your idea is probably better.

[FirePro]

5 hours ago, againstthegrain said:

 

I should have used a different color paintfill on my initials which I have stamped or added some other distinguishing mark on my set, but your idea is probably better.

I wasn't really thinking about how similar they look and now it bothers me, thanks lol.  I may put some different paint fill in the badge now or stamp a 3 dot system in the toe

[againstthegrain]

35 minutes ago, FirePro said:

I wasn't really thinking about how similar they look and now it bothers me, thanks lol.  I may put some different paint fill in the badge now or stamp a 3 dot system in the toe

Glad I could help you out!  

[Tenkies]

23 hours ago, againstthegrain said:

Great wedges, but the font used for the degree of the club isn't particularly distinct from each other.   Selecting the right wedge(s) from the bag takes some sorting.  It's hard to tell the 50 from the 60 for instance or the 46 from the 56.  I had mine built at Hotstixx and they said they couldn't stamp the sole with P, G, S, and L for some reason.   Perhaps next offseason I can find someone to do that.

 

 

Maybe just paint fill the numbers on the sole a different color like mentioned above? That way, no need to look at numbers just go by color code. I have my three wedges in different finishes so it's easy to recognize. 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Tenkies

[golffeen007]

3 hours ago, Tenkies said:

Maybe just paint fill the numbers on the sole a different color like mentioned above? That way, no need to look at numbers just go by color code. I have my three wedges in different finishes so it's easy to recognize. 

As mentioned , the T22’s don’t have numbers on the soles and that there in lies the issue being discussed. 

[Tenkies]

15 hours ago, golffeen007 said:

As mentioned , the T22’s don’t have numbers on the soles and that there in lies the issue being discussed. 

Totally forgot. I still use a T-4 wedge 60* has numbers and bounces on the sole. But I do have a T20 and T22 in different finishes to help differentiate the clubs easier(totally forgot there are no lofts on the sole since I just go off of finish). If that's not for you, maybe just paint fill the Mizuno logo a different color on the back of each club? It would be subtitle but easy to recognize.  

[Djuga06]

So I’m in the boat for getting new wedges and we’re down to these and the SM9’s. Coming from hi toe raw wedges so definitely a plus for the denim copper, but where I’m a little lost is the grinds. Titleist gives you the selector tool which is super easy to determine, came in with the 54.12D and 60.14K. My current wedges are 54.10 and 60.10, I come in pretty steep and the local courses are all firmer to softer Bermuda with powdery bunkers. I also like to open the face on my 54. Based on all this would the 54.12S and 60.10C be my best choices? Thanks for the help in advance. 

[Yoshifan151]

Just got mine today!

[Yoshifan151]

On 6/20/2022 at 2:07 PM, Djuga06 said:

So I’m in the boat for getting new wedges and we’re down to these and the SM9’s. Coming from hi toe raw wedges so definitely a plus for the denim copper, but where I’m a little lost is the grinds. Titleist gives you the selector tool which is super easy to determine, came in with the 54.12D and 60.14K. My current wedges are 54.10 and 60.10, I come in pretty steep and the local courses are all firmer to softer Bermuda with powdery bunkers. I also like to open the face on my 54. Based on all this would the 54.12S and 60.10C be my best choices? Thanks for the help in advance. 

Overall I think those are pretty good choices.

[Phabs]

Still enjoying mine.  Have prob 30 rounds on them now and a few hundred hours of practice.  Spin with the s400 is solid, one hop and stop from full and 3/4 swings and can still hit low nippers around the green. 

[gator022]

How do folks feel about the “forgiveness” of these v. Zipcore’s or others?

 

I’ve received mixed comments on this from fitters and others.

Edited July 12, 2022 by gator022

[gator022]

On 6/23/2022 at 6:08 PM, Phabs said:

Still enjoying mine.  Have prob 30 rounds on them now and a few hundred hours of practice.  Spin with the s400 is solid, one hop and stop from full and 3/4 swings and can still hit low nippers around the green. 

How do folks feel about the “forgiveness” of these v. Zipcore’s or others?

 

I’ve received mixed comments on this from fitters and others.

[golffeen007]

I play 3 T22’s and had a set of the Raw T Zipcores. I much prefer the Mizuno for me.  I play a lot of fiddly shots around the green and felt the v grind had me feeling limited in what could do. They felt like they’d get kind of “grabbie” in the grass. If it was a more straight forward shot from the fairway or even through rough , the Zipcores worked for me being more of a digger. 

[Cactus Jack]

Heads up that 2nd swing is selling new chrome wedges for $120. 

[Phabs]

1 hour ago, gator022 said:

 

How do folks feel about the “forgiveness” of these v. Zipcore’s or others?

 

I’ve received mixed comments on this from fitters and others.

They’re as forgiving as every other bladed wedge.  I also don’t expect a whole lot of “forgiveness” from a wedge that you should middle more often than not. 

Edited July 12, 2022 by Phabs

[picardyThird]

I've found that the wedges will give you what you put in. A bad swing or a poor strike will be punished... as it should be. Forgiveness is not really something I look for in a wedge, since if you're hitting a wedge in the first place you are trying to hit a specific distance. What I specifically do not want is a "jumper", and I can say that I've never once had a jumper on any of my T22s. Fliers, yes, but that's not the wedge's fault. 

[gator022]

15 hours ago, picardyThird said:

I've found that the wedges will give you what you put in. A bad swing or a poor strike will be punished... as it should be. Forgiveness is not really something I look for in a wedge, since if you're hitting a wedge in the first place you are trying to hit a specific distance. What I specifically do not want is a "jumper", and I can say that I've never once had a jumper on any of my T22s. Fliers, yes, but that's not the wedge's fault. 

 

Me either really.  I have a set of T22's and was looking for something around 48* to replace the set gap wedge as the combo of the shaft and head combo tends to give me a ballooning shot on my Ping G410's.  A fitter suggested to me that the T22's weren't forgiving and I should consider something more forgiving like the RTX Zipcore's as he felt the CBX Zipcore's would balloon too.

 

Long story short, I'm not sure I believe it.  I do however need a 48* wedge and don't like the idea of a 6-8* bounce 48/49* gap wedge so I was thinking soemthing like a Vokey or Zipcore could fit that spot.

[golffeen007]

9 minutes ago, gator022 said:

 

Me either really.  I have a set of T22's and was looking for something around 48* to replace the set gap wedge as the combo of the shaft and head combo tends to give me a ballooning shot on my Ping G410's.  A fitter suggested to me that the T22's weren't forgiving and I should consider something more forgiving like the RTX Zipcore's as he felt the CBX Zipcore's would balloon too.

 

Long story short, I'm not sure I believe it.  I do however need a 48* wedge and don't like the idea of a 6-8* bounce 48/49* gap wedge so I was thinking soemthing like a Vokey or Zipcore could fit that spot.

Are you adding loft at impact? Some often relate ballooning to actual added loft at impact , which could increase launch and spin, to which no club/shaft would magically change without work.  
Although the center of gravity might be different between bladed wedges , you’ve still got to make solid contact.