"$50 Autoflex" Anyone try this?

[mosesgolf]

I enjoy his videos and his swing speed is around where I'm at these days.  Anyone have similar results with softer and lighter flex shafts?  

[JungleJimbo]

9 minutes ago, mosesgolf said:

I enjoy his videos and his swing speed is around where I'm at these days.  Anyone have similar results with softer and lighter flex shafts?  

There was a similar discussion on this "Autoflex at a discount" last year?

If i remember correctly ... the Mobile Clubmaker guy featured in Mr Short Game's video = also a GolfWRX member/ contributor on these forums / fora.
 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by JungleJimbo

[03trdblack]

TLDR;

 

The shafts they highlighted were a Project X Evenflow Riptide CB 5.0 40 R flex and the older, original Fujikura Motore F3 55 R.

[MysteryV]

Fwiw - I ended up testing the Miyazaki Sr. Flex (I believe? It was Gold) and couldn't quite get it to work.  It just spun too much.  The NV is still un gripped and un tipped in the garage.

 

[third-times-a-charm]

No. It doesnt work like that.

[vietnameeh]

I am experimenting on a fun club soon.

 

I have a Graffalloy Pro blue 45 in a regular flex

 

That will go into a Krank 6* head 

 

my expectation is not an autoflex- but just wanted a light and whippy shaft for more ballspeed fun haha

[Cwebb]

4 hours ago, MysteryV said:

Fwiw - I ended up testing the Miyazaki Sr. Flex (I believe? It was Gold) and couldn't quite get it to work.  It just spun too much.  The NV is still un gripped and un tipped in the garage.

 

 

Have you tried this experiment with a lower loft head?

[Cwebb]

4 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

No. It doesnt work like that.

How does it work?

[MysteryV]

4 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

 

Have you tried this experiment with a lower loft head?

 

I lost interest tbh.  I've still hit some of my longest drives ever with the Autoflex, and have never eliminated one side of the fairway more completely (my miss after several rounds with Arccos was 100% left), but it was a cheap curiosity experiment.  

 

More to your question - I believe I tested with 9 degree head turned down to 8.  It definitely went pretty good - but if I recall correctly, I was testing with a Mavrik 3D and got the itch to pick up a SIM2 and just had no desire to hit anything else as it was new and shiny.  😕.    My speed also jumped quite a bit during that time (superspeed and technique) and the softer stuff no longer fit quite as well.

[Cwebb]

Just now, MysteryV said:

 

I lost interest tbh.  I've still hit some of my longest drives ever with the Autoflex, and have never eliminated one side of the fairway more completely (my miss after several rounds with Arccos was 100% left), but it was a cheap curiosity experiment.  

 

More to your question - I believe I tested with 9 degree head turned down to 8.  It definitely went pretty good - but if I recall correctly, I was testing with a Mavrik 3D and got the itch to pick up a SIM2 and just had no desire to hit anything else as it was new and shiny.  😕.    My speed also jumped quite a bit during that time (superspeed and technique) and the softer stuff no longer fit quite as well.

 

Maybe try something not as extremely soft.  Like an 'R' flex

[MysteryV]

2 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

 

Maybe try something not as extremely soft.  Like an 'R' flex

 

I've been pretty happy with my Stealth / Ventus TR combo and haven't had any interest in experimenting recently.  It's the longest combo I've ever tried save the Autoflex - and I can hit a little cut with it without TOO much effort.  For my current swing / game - it's a better fit (I'm in the low 170s ball speed with range balls, so while more distance would be nice - it's just not what I need to improve scores right now).

[Adam C]

7 hours ago, 03trdblack said:

TLDR;

 

The shafts they highlighted were a Project X Evenflow Riptide CB 5.0 40 R flex and the older, original Fujikura Motore F3 55 R.

Just wanted to clarify the shafts b/c I think there is a typo in the video on the flex designations.

The PX Riptide is the 40g 5.0 shaft. The shaft is actually heaver (into the 50s weight). We ended up testing against the 505 Autoflex. I had thought Mr Shortgame had the 505x, so the shafts I brought were both a bit stiffer especially the PX, which I think would match up very well against the 505xx.

The Fuji was the OG Motore F3 55g in Light Flex. I also tipped it 1 inch so it really falls in between the Light and R flex.

[Honeybadger]

On 7/13/2022 at 8:08 PM, Adam C said:

Just wanted to clarify the shafts b/c I think there is a typo in the video on the flex designations.

The PX Riptide is the 40g 5.0 shaft. The shaft is actually heaver (into the 50s weight). We ended up testing against the 505 Autoflex. I had thought Mr Shortgame had the 505x, so the shafts I brought were both a bit stiffer especially the PX, which I think would match up very well against the 505xx.

The Fuji was the OG Motore F3 55g in Light Flex. I also tipped it 1 inch so it really falls in between the Light and R flex.

Do you think a Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch (45 grams) will work with a Ping 425 Max if I get the swing weight to D1? Are the bend profiles similar enough? 

[Adam C]

10 hours ago, Honeybadger said:

Do you think a Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch (45 grams) will work with a Ping 425 Max if I get the swing weight to D1? Are the bend profiles similar enough? 

Yes, I think that combo can work. The main idea is really about getting something at least 10g lighter than what you currently use and 2 flexes softer. The exact bend profile is less important as long as it's not some sort of super low launch style shaft.

Heck, that said, you could still even use a low/low type of shaft if you match the weight and flex up and get similar results. Just might not feel exactly like Autoflex.

There is no magic in the Autoflex. Get a lighter, softer shaft, throw in a lighter head weight to drop the swing weight, and there you go.

[CROUSE99]

There’s a high handicap on youtube with a slow swing speed who tried this. He got much better results with the Autoflex. Also, the mobile clubmaker guy measured the overall flex of the two shafts but that won’t tell you anything about the bend profiles. 

[SEP1006]

Well good luck to you guys trying to duplicate the "Autoflex" performance / results. I play it ( and have since it came out ) in my Driver and 3wd. Best shaft by far that I have ever played.

 

I will say this to those experimenting because I haven't seen it mentioned. I am 65 and in great shape, work out religiously 5 days a week. My SS with a drivers is 95ish. I have gotten my best results by far using the Autoflex with a driver head weight of 206 grams. Which I think puts it close to D4 or D5 swing weight. I play my driver at 45" also.

[Honeybadger]

On 10/2/2022 at 10:09 AM, Adam C said:

Yes, I think that combo can work. The main idea is really about getting something at least 10g lighter than what you currently use and 2 flexes softer. The exact bend profile is less important as long as it's not some sort of super low launch style shaft.

Heck, that said, you could still even use a low/low type of shaft if you match the weight and flex up and get similar results. Just might not feel exactly like Autoflex.

There is no magic in the Autoflex. Get a lighter, softer shaft, throw in a lighter head weight to drop the swing weight, and there you go.

Is the Evenflow Riptide CB cobalt the same bend profile/same shaft as the blue? 

[Thayneil]

On 10/2/2022 at 9:09 PM, Adam C said:

Yes, I think that combo can work. The main idea is really about getting something at least 10g lighter than what you currently use and 2 flexes softer. The exact bend profile is less important as long as it's not some sort of super low launch style shaft.

Heck, that said, you could still even use a low/low type of shaft if you match the weight and flex up and get similar results. Just might not feel exactly like Autoflex.

There is no magic in the Autoflex. Get a lighter, softer shaft, throw in a lighter head weight to drop the swing weight, and there you go.

Graffaloy Nitroflex  mid 90s i think

 

softer in flex  but low torque

[Adam C]

1 hour ago, Honeybadger said:

Is the Evenflow Riptide CB cobalt the same bend profile/same shaft as the blue? 

I used the 40g version in 5.0

Should match up pretty close with the 505X.

[03trdblack]

1 hour ago, Honeybadger said:

Is the Evenflow Riptide CB cobalt the same bend profile/same shaft as the blue? 

 

Cobalt is the same thing as the blue

[Clifford]

On 10/5/2022 at 10:41 AM, Adam C said:

I used the 40g version in 5.0

Should match up pretty close with the 505X.

Hi Adam, what do you think the riptide Evenflow 4.0 40g ladies flex would play like? like a autoflex505? I have a 97mph avg swingspeed. Would this be worth a try? I can get one on sale right now. I usually use a weaker stiff like tensei blue.

[Adam C]

18 hours ago, Clifford said:

Hi Adam, what do you think the riptide Evenflow 4.0 40g ladies flex would play like? like a autoflex505? I have a 97mph avg swingspeed. Would this be worth a try? I can get one on sale right now. I usually use a weaker stiff like tensei blue.

Yes, that would be the closest match to the 505 from what I've tested.

[Clifford]

7 hours ago, Adam C said:

Yes, that would be the closest match to the 505 from what I've tested.

Thanks for the reply. I just ordered the pxg 0211 driver with that riptide shaft for $119!  If it dont work, I will make money . 

[SEP1006]

On 10/16/2022 at 12:27 PM, Clifford said:

Hi Adam, what do you think the riptide Evenflow 4.0 40g ladies flex would play like? like a autoflex505? I have a 97mph avg swingspeed. Would this be worth a try? I can get one on sale right now. I usually use a weaker stiff like tensei blue.

 

 

Well I have been playing the SF505 ( and love it ) since it came out so almost 3 years now. I bought the shaft you mentioned above just to try out of curiosity. Should be here either tomorrow or Saturday. Once it does I'll play it and let you guys know how it compares. My SS is about the same as yours as well, 95ish and my HCP hovers around 6.

[Clifford]

9 hours ago, SEP1006 said:

 

 

Well I have been playing the SF505 ( and love it ) since it came out so almost 3 years now. I bought the shaft you mentioned above just to try out of curiosity. Should be here either tomorrow or Saturday. Once it does I'll play it and let you guys know how it compares. My SS is about the same as yours as well, 95ish and my HCP hovers around 6.

I will to but our courses close this weekend. I will have to try it on a sim. Would love to see how much difference between them SEP1006.

[SEP1006]

Okay guys, after playing 36 holes both Saturday and Sunday with the Riptide 4.0L 40 gram shaft I can honestly say it produces pretty much the same results as my Autoflex 505. Not quite sure how I feel about this but it is what it is. 

 

For reference I am 65 and in great physical shape. SS with a driver averages around 95ish and my HCP hovers around 6 most the time.

[Clifford]

Good to hear SEP1006. I ordered the PXG 0211 with that shaft. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Clifford

[rexroh]

I would recommend the Ping Distanza shaft if you can get your hands on one.   40 grams and senior flex.

[SEP1006]

9 hours ago, rexroh said:

I would recommend the Ping Distanza shaft if you can get your hands on one.   40 grams and senior flex.

 

One of the guys ( he's 61 ) we play with has one in his G400 MAX and he kills that thing. So I decided to try it as well. It wasn't near as consistent or long as my Autoflex. Like I stated earlier, the Riptide 4.0L 40 gram pretty much produced the same results as my Autoflex. 

 

 

[mvhoffman]

So I actually did this with a TM Non Velocore Ventus Blue.  The SIM 2 that I have was traded to me with a 5A shaft in it.  From someone who played X flex for many years I did a little research because A wouldn't work for me.  After going down the worm whole I found that the profile of an A flex Ventus Blue is closer in profile to a S version than the R is... I know, weird, but there was a graph lol.  Long story short is that I took the driver tip off of the shaft, tipped it 1 inch and took a chance it was going to work.  It is STILL in the bag a year later and I hit it a ton.  Better distance than I have ever had in a driver and it is a fairway finder.  

 

I went from a 70G X shaft into the 5A Ventus so there is the weight and flex difference for the budget autoflex and tipped to preferred feel.  Ended up repeating on 3 wood, 7 wood and hybrid.  Playing the best golf i have in a long time.