Tour Callaway Paradym driver - 2022 QBE Shootout

[blakehall]

11 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Wondering if the Paradym clubs is when Callaway jumps the shark???

 

Honestly, the move from No Laying Up to Good Good might be it for me.

 

Time to accept I'm one of the olds now.

[Red4282]

1 hour ago, Scott0000 said:

 

 

Man had to stop 5 min in. That callaway rep was like a used car salesman. 

[smithy925]

1 hour ago, Red4282 said:

These embargos are getting messier and messier every year

Too many people involved with early access for youtube vids and embargo dates always gunna be people who jump the gun, but its free promo for them. All in all i think the brands did a pretty good job of keeping leaks from getting out to early for hte most part.

[Jim53]

37* 9 iron, heck even I can hit that 150 yds

[Mp14forlife]

2 hours ago, Scott0000 said:

 

 

Interesting. The rep showed Rahm and Xander picking up 4 mph ball speed with the paradym. My question would be, were they comparing the paradym to their tour average ball speed? If it's their tour average where they may not swing 100 percent compared to swinging outta their shoes blasting the paradym on the range/monitor?

 

[smithy925]

15 minutes ago, Mp14forlife said:

Interesting. The rep showed Rahm and Xander picking up 4 mph ball speed with the paradym. My question would be, were they comparing the paradym to their tour average ball speed? If it's their tour average where they may not swing 100 percent compared to swinging outta their shoes blasting the paradym on the range/monitor?

 

Per the PGA website Rahms avg ball speed for 2022 was 182.16 and Xander's was 177.93 so I'm guessing its just fromt esting sessions as their base averages with Rogue are lower than their tour avg where they've been using the Rouge's all year.

 

So basically they've fudged the numbers to look good.

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by smithy925

[eric61]

There are always some YouTube snafus around releases but it’s odd to see long-time pros like Crossfield and Andy/Average Golfer post and then take down their videos like that. 
 

If it had just been one of them, I’d guess it was just an unusual and embarrassing error. But two of them makes it seem like some miscommunication or lack of clarity from Callaway’s end might have been involved. 
 

Weird. Oh well, the hybrids look great. Glad to see Callaway moving away from that high toe design toward a more fairway-shaped hybrid head even in the more forgiving, larger version.

[JungleJimbo]

 

 

 

[JungleJimbo]

Flurry of videos now... so the embargo timing has arrived!

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=callaway+"paradym"+driver&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, eric61 said:

There are always some YouTube snafus around releases but it’s odd to see long-time pros like Crossfield and Andy/Average Golfer post and then take down their videos like that. 
 

If it had just been one of them, I’d guess it was just an unusual and embarrassing error. But two of them makes it seem like some miscommunication or lack of clarity from Callaway’s end might have been involved. 
 

Weird. Oh well, the hybrids look great. Glad to see Callaway moving away from that high toe design toward a more fairway-shaped hybrid head even in the more forgiving, larger version.

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[Golfingfanatic]

Crossfield‘s review was not particularly Paradym-y.

 

I say, Callaway should’ve read Thomas Kuhn a bit more carefully 😉

[ob1soccer]

21 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

Flurry of videos now... so the embargo timing has arrived!

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=callaway+"paradym"+driver&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

all this is awesome, when is someone going to this this thing?

[JungleJimbo]

On 1/5/2023 at 7:19 AM, Golfingfanatic said:

Crossfield‘s review was not particularly Paradym-y.

 

I say, Callaway should’ve read Thomas Kuhn a bit more carefully 😉

 

Crossfield's video = is back up on youtube.
I still can't find the video from "The Average Golfer" covering Paradym driver? ( albeit can find the "This video is private" notification here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zybJ6gYj2Jc).

 

 

..edit2: "Average Golfer" video has been re-uploaded.

 

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[halfsumo]

Ventus tr blue as a stock? Must be a non-velocore made-for?

[DatSliceDoe]

Looks like it was made for JDM not worldwide. What's the cost on this guy?

[Double Mocha Man]

23 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

 

Crossfield's video = is back up on youtube.

 

 

 

 

Did he edit out the part about ball speed?

[JungleJimbo]

15 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Did he edit out the part about ball speed?

Do you mean the shot at the beginning of Crossfield's video, with the ALL-CAPs on-screen message "THIS SHOT IS NOT THE CALLAWAY DRIVER" ?

 

There's also some ball-speed discussion, around the timestamp ~10m30s mark?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1hGaHgAWXM?t=612
 

..p/s: From one of the comments seen ... i'm guessing Crossfield's video has been re-edited?  (i.e. "Video is SIGNIFICANTLY better at 11pm opposed to 11:17am (blank screen, "private")")

Edited January 5, 2023 by JungleJimbo

[TeeTee]

A 2023 retrofit from one of my favorite Callaway drivers... way back in the 90's

 

Thank you for finally removing the Chevron on the Triple Diamond heads

 

 

 

[Binson]

How do you like the Paradym? I digm

[enfuego]

Haven't gone through all of the videos yet but TXG's "foresight" numbers have less carry with more ball speed than Rick Shiels "foresight" numbers with similar spin/launch. I think its been talked about before but Foresight seems to over reward the low spin high launch ball. Or maybe... Shiels played with the elevation, who knows. 

 

Flightscopes Trajectory Optimizer doesn't come close to Shiel's carry yards with his numbers.

[sleuth]

40 minutes ago, halfsumo said:

Ventus tr blue as a stock? Must be a non-velocore made-for?

What would be wild is if this was stock.

 

The Ventus TR line isn't listed as a custom offering. So let the flurry of speculation begin.

[Red4282]

2 reviews down, 2 sub par performances on ball speed. Shiels hitting the mythical 17/1700 is funny too.

[eric61]

33 minutes ago, sleuth said:

What would be wild is if this was stock.

 

The Ventus TR line isn't listed as a custom offering. So let the flurry of speculation begin.

My guess is that catalog predates the TR lineup's release. There are several other shafts that became available on Callaway's website over the course of last year that also aren't included. (I know TR Black is another one because that's the driver shaft I play, so I've noticed its availability on Callaway's website in the past.)

[sleuth]

9 minutes ago, eric61 said:

My guess is that catalog predates the TR lineup's release. There are several other shafts that became available on Callaway's website over the course of last year that also aren't included. (I know TR Black is another one because that's the driver shaft I play, so I've noticed its availability on Callaway's website in the past.)

That's a good call out. I didn't even see that it linked to the 2022 custom catalog.

[SwingBlues]

 

JW fitting JD into a 3D Paradym 8.0, I like this YouTube the best out of the lot so far...

 

LOVE THE SOUND!!

 

 

[bcflyguy1]

1 hour ago, sleuth said:

What would be wild is if this was stock.

 

The Ventus TR line isn't listed as a custom offering. So let the flurry of speculation begin.

All 3 TR colors are available.

[bcflyguy1]

2 hours ago, halfsumo said:

Ventus tr blue as a stock? Must be a non-velocore made-for?

No and no.

[halfsumo]

So the Callaway website listing the TR Blue as a stock shaft is wrong? 
 

https://www.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/drivers/drivers-2023-paradym.html

[radiman]

4 minutes ago, halfsumo said:

So the Callaway website listing the TR Blue as a stock shaft is wrong? 
 

https://www.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/drivers/drivers-2023-paradym.html

Probably a non velocore version like the had last year. Seems like oems are using the word velocore to differentiate them. 
 

There is zero chance the real deal Ventus tr is a stock option. 

Edited January 5, 2023 by radiman

[ob1soccer]

how can we confirm

[halfsumo]

Yeah, was just being hopeful. They do offer the MMT 105tx as a no upcharge iron shaft so sometimes they do offer some values. 
 

Most YouTube videos the reviewers have the kaili white, which makes more sense as a stock shaft, and I suppose the callaway website could be wrong since preorders aren’t open yet. Would be great if that lead to some kind of glitch window to buy with a TR.

Edited January 5, 2023 by halfsumo